Mass arrest of NH demonstrators: Some ideas for constructive response

[musicalidea]

Fucking thugs.

[mottoncouthUSA]

An additional step that activist may want to employ is to boycott the police. If you are in a positition to resfuse service to a judge or police officer, politely decline to serve that person, and encourage your fellows to do the same.

[newdarnaccount]

Last, the cops may have covered their butts--which, again, I would not believe. That isn't what people think about when most of their mental effort goes to thinking about how pretty they look in a uniform. But again, if they did not, it is a federal crime to willfully deprive a person of right secured by the Constituion or laws of the U.S. under color of authority of law. So, *I* would see the USDOJ Civil Rights Division, Criminal Section was made aware.

[newdarnaccount]

While I'm back on youtube, I might as well finish trolling this page. I don't have the reports; however, unless they say X person told me Y person was told to leave, it should also be explored whether lack of actual probable cause would make any physical contact unprivileged--thus criminal. As official oppression is defined now, arrest without probable cause does no seem to fit .... but IMNAL. Otherwise, the police probably lied. But ... you know how it is.

[newdarnaccount]

Again, I want to say that I hope legal counsel is involved. There's a guy in a Smokey Bear hat, is he a deputy, or what? For the nothing it's worth, I see it this way. Notice of trespass was required for a an offense. If no one pointed out specific people on notice, the officers had no probable cause. If no notice, due process was violated. Of course, these people (police) are held the borderline retarded standards of average police. It's called qualified immunity.

[newdarnaccount]

de: newdarnaccount But, trust me, those people really do not give crap about how upset you are--in fact they enjoy seeing you pissed off. They will care about a trip to court. See if the ACLU, will look at it. That jail also has extensive grounds, and I don't believe they can legally close all of it to demonstrations. But that's my humble opinion.

[LMHPCD]

please read the information on this site. Download the document and read how the 14th amendment of the Constitution made us all slaves.

sins of the state. net/

[99minerkc]

You said some activists claim that they weren't asked to leave before being arrested. I have to ask, would it really have mattered? I mean, if they were asked to leave would they have left? Probably not! Anyway, I do respect you guys in being persistent!

[justwannamakeluv]

It looks like the Keene need a reminder of who actually pays their frigging salary. What a bunch of punks!

[AnarchyInYourHead]

Good points, Dave. I too think we should at least be protesting out where cars can see us. There is a fair amount of Keene traffic passing that jail regularly.

[CurtHowland]

Man that is a very, very pretty new jail. Expensive, high tech, etc. Nice landscaping, too.

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I am left wondering "why?" What is the point of spending that much money on a jail?

[spareaxe]

Well, dudes if you break the law you get arrested...did you not know this yet?

[nicko978]

I have a great idea. How you can respond to these arrests?

GROW UP and follow the laws of the land beeches

[ninjabunnyman]

@nicko978

Yes, because all mature people follow every arbitrary diktat of each politician and bureaucrat. Rosa Parks, MLK, Susan Anthony, Gandhi, Sam Adams ... these people were so immature.

To be mature, one needs to be a spineless serf. Good to know.

[nicko978]

@ninjabunnyman They didn't whine like children when they were being arrested or in their case beaten. They had more of a right to cry about it than these juvenile delinquents. LOL why didn't he just calmy say "Sir I am not resisting.." instead he cries like the pussy he is IM NOT IM NOT.. just like a spoiled brat in a toy store.

[ninjabunnyman]

@nicko978

I don't know .. perhaps he had difficulty keeping his tone completely calm while he was being dragged along the ground. I'm sure if you had video of all civil rights activist arrests, you'd find one whose tone of voice did not perfectly meet your exacting standards.

I think you're being a little silly.

[ninjabunnyman]

@nicko978

Oh, and you're changing the subject. You said, "GROW UP and follow the laws of the land beeches". When I refuted your statement, which implied that maturity means blindly obeying immoral laws, you switched to the tone of voice of the activist

[nicko978]

@ninjabunnyman oh and didn't i tell you to go fuck yourself already?

I can tell you're one of these DRAMA queen wannabe activists proving and changing absolutely nothing. Grow a sack...

[ninjabunnyman]

@nicko978

You sound angry. I suggest you do some thinking, rather than lashing out.

Why do you oppose liberty activism? Do you think the laws are all moral? Do you think immoral laws should be obeyed? Is there anything you believe the government doesn't have a right to do?

[nicko978]

@ninjabunnyman If I was angry I would go to the next free state meet. I just tell it like it is.

[nicko978]

@ninjabunnyman I didn't change anything. The video says it all. He's trying to milk some drama out of the ridiculous situation. There is nothing to argue about here unless you want to act like a libtard confrontational loony?

[militarysims]

I lost count of how many "freedom fighters" as I call them we have in this state now but we should put the word out and have every free stater in the state ( I hope 200 or more) Bring everyone to the Keene's new Hitter SS detention camp and let 200 plus people get arrested. We would fill the jail and when we go to court the judge would laugh and dismiss the case. As for what the cops did in this case. You can see if by the way they walk they did this to show them who was boss.

[fczwartek]

I like how the story has evolved from "they never told us to leave .. they just came out and arrested us" ...

into "well, they did actually tell some of us to leave ... and when we refused they came out and arrested us."

[nicko978]

@fczwartek listen how calmly the authorities tell them to stop resisting. then listen to the freestater's response. he's trying to milk some drama out of the situation. :58

[ninjabunnyman]

@nicko978

Resisting arrest is a "crime". He's making it clear that he is not resisting the arrest, but he will not be assisting them by walking under his own power. That's the reason for the statement.

Courts have ruled both ways on the question of whether going limp constitutes "resisting".

[downlowfunk]

stop bringing cameras to the war... They shoot nothing but losses.

[newdarnaccount]

@newdarnaccount Why in the hell, did that end up being posted three times? Did you know that there's a case where the USSC decided a demonstrator case pretty much against itself. There also a case where the Marshal of the USSC arrested a bunch of demonstrators on court property, and they all got kicked by lower courts. Lawsuits ... because even government lawyers don't work free.

[newdarnaccount]

Did anyone maybe speak to a lawyer about the possibilty of bring a federal suit against Kene, the police, etc. for being arrested without in violation of the Fourth Amendment and the due process clause of the 14th Amendment? Further, a jail is not a traditonal forum. However, that's not holding areas--or such--it's grounds well away from the jail. So can they deny use in this manner. You know, the Civil Rights movement did file federal suits--and succeed.

[NoLongerFooled]

A gang in blue.........exempt from the law and with lifetime pensions. Wonderful!

[TrueChristianSoldier]

that seargent lookks like Steve Carell, LOL

[Shrapnelhead]

we have more rights in our country than almost any other country in the world...there is no point on protesting everything...just deal with it and be happy with what you got

[bluejetty01]

6:25

Look at the difference between the female guard and the freedom activist looks. The guard looks like her evolution has been stumped a couple thousand years ago, and the Freedom Activist looks like God is shining through her eyes.

[Birdietweet]

ministry of love!! EPIC

[factorywolf]

Man the sign said you they should of obeyed it. Jails are not public property, when your told to leave you leave, looks like a bunch of men doing their jobs. It is written on the sign, Duhhhhh!!!!!

[samala5793]

I have alot of respect for you guys for standing up for your rights!!! We need more people like you!!! Do the cops have anything better to do??? It seems like they spend an enormous amount of time harassing your group. They don't like that you question them, so they do the only thing they know how to...arrest peaceful protesters rather than preventing actual crimes. Pathetic cops.

[holajim]

Just a matter of time until they do the wrong thing to the wrong person. First thing EVERY community needs to do is identify who/what/where/when on anything to do with law enforcement. Tyranny always fails in the end. The Americans will fight back.

That's why they are keeping our soldiers occupied away. And, all knowing 90 per cent of us want them home yesterday.

[thanson77]

For some reason your voice over sounds like your chair is vibrating or something. IT almost sounds like you're getting all choked up, or walking briskly....Anyone else hear that?

[goten1201]

I like that statement at the beginning, I am not resisting but I am not assisting.

[IronicallyVague]

Tip from the Ghetto?

Your supposed to have already ran away long before they even got close enough to talk to you...

[Anothercoilgun]

@IronicallyVague

That would work and I like it. But these activist are not the ones doing harm hence no need to fleet like a criminal.

[slewofdamascus]

With a new nominee to the Supreme Court, who is Jewish, they gave the religious affiliation breakdown on the SC and I was shocked to learn that on the current court, 3 are Jewish and the rest are Catholic. I find that a little disconcerting, given that the Constitution rests upon Protestant ideals. Is part of the problem, today (loss of liberty, etc.), a lack of Protestant representation in our judicial system? Just asking. I think it's a salient issue, personally.

[boots920]

Its disgusting...time to start firing your police force

[Anothercoilgun]

@boots920

Time? Nothing here was new.

[Xonegod]

Some public servants believe they are above and beyond those who are created equal, all other are merely following status quo.

You want change, affect the TAX-Payer/Voter's pocket book. Cost them money, They will want change; yesterday! The gov't is allege to work in this fashion.

To attack the jails/system, is like breaking the eggs a chicken lays because you want the chicken gone. The farmer will just get more chickens to make up for the loss, thus exacerbating your problem.

..X..

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

what y'all need to do is get some anti federal native americans in your group...then if they get arrested the federal government, state, or local (whoever did it) gets sued for treay violations because Native Americans are entitled to use of Government owned land at any time.

[Elephantintheroom01]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty Which raises the question: why different rules for everybody elllse?

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@Elephantintheroom01 indeed

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

okay.....if its 50 to 9...whoop some ass. or run or something...that shit wouldnt fly aroundhere. plus everyone knows all the cops so they would get shit for it

[MrSuperJuden]

Stupid pirates.

[BloodTar]

"NH Demostrators" . . . .??

What they hell were they demonstrating? Were they demonstrating how to get arrested?

The founding fathers would have been disheartened and sickened by the pussy responses you gave the police. If you claim to be protestors or resisters or activists.... Then start wearing some motorcycle helmets and bring baseball bats in order to defend yourselves othewise . . . stay home

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@BloodTar i can dig it

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@BloodTar make some redneck riot gear....paintball armor and a full face bike helmet...or you cant go wrong with pitchers gear and a gas mask.lol

[silentthriller]

I'm pretty sure that's not private property.

[DisintersGroup]

actually is private property: the alleged police organization is a private corporation. the gold fringed, left facing flag is not a USA flag, it is mere corporate insignia. as long as the so called police cannot create joinder with arrestees, the demonstrators will be released within 72 hr.s. at this point, silence is golden, right SSILENTSHILL?

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@DisintersGroup if they are a pvt entity, then how can they enforce law? that pretty much says to me that if they have a uniform and guns, they have more power than you so they are an authority figure and can enforce the law. well i think ill go buy myself a pretty new uniform.lol

[DisintersGroup]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty that is the million dollar question, my friend. the law they are enforcing is not common law but rather something called statute law and is part of uniform commercial code (UCC). you are subject to statute law by consent only, but the police, courts, and judges have a slew of tricks they use in order to implicate you in their cash confiscation scheme. start researching the term "freeman on the land" for further understanding. ;0

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@DisintersGroup by consent only? so if i were to be arrested for breaking statute law....and i run off or resist arrest and get away, i walk free of charge?

[DisintersGroup]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty no, that is dishoner of contract. if you're arrested, you do so in "protest and due rest", never resist an officer. the battle begins in court. the trick is to never enter contract with the police in the first place. in court, when asked how do you plea: guilty, not guiltly, or no contest? the correct response is "i plea no contract to the courts" they cannot prosecute statute law without your consent

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@DisintersGroup seems logical, but i dont see why it cant just be stoped with the officer.

[DisintersGroup]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty definately takes some smooth talking.

[slewofdamascus]

I removed my last comment because I fear it is divisive, but I do hope there is an organized response to their tyranny by the liberty activists in the area.

[pantadon]

Go Liberty!

[braingain1]

civil disobedience-----on a very large scale----NO cooperation with police or authorities-------massive littering when police diverted elsewhere------slashing of police car tyres when they are busy elsewhere-----etc etc the list goes on-----you don't have a police service you have an occupying power

[conspiracy777]

Were they asked to leave earlier?

The first thing he said was "you're all under arrest". That's not exactly a request to leave.

[dizolve13]

my best piece of advise... become a Satanist and take this war to the spiritual plane... lol - everyone seems to be scared of a hex...

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

So what were these people arrested for anyway? Weed?

[AmericanBNPfriends]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 are you thick or did you not watch the video? they mentioned criminal tresspassing about 5 times in this video

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@AmericanBNPfriends Well fuck me.

Isn't it ironic how capitalists like those in the FSP go on and on about preserving their private property, yet they seem to think it's okay to tresspass on other people's private property?

[livefreeordie2008]

A good response to this kind of crap is everyone in Keene show up at the jail,lets see if they got the balls to arrest all of you.

[circusboy90210]

looks like a goon squad. thought there were laws against conglomeration and abuse of power. police state. how can you be tresspassed against what you own, public property.