thx for the demo. i am considering poliquin's GVT and on this exercise they say "making sure the top two knuckles are in line with your ears at the top of the movement" but i was unsure of the overall hand position.
"You wouldn't want to go to heavy on these anyway these are perfect shaping exercise "
That is a misconception as there is no such thing as a shaping exercise. Either an exercise builds muscle or it doesn't.
In this case you wouldn't want to go heavy simply because rear laterals are intended to isolate the rear deltoids which are a very weak and small muscle.
Using too much weight forces some of the larger back muscles to take over and makes one "cheat" the exercise.
@Neil6000 The way he's doing them (externally rotated) it's transverse abduction rather than extension, so the medial deltoid is helping just as much if not more than the posterior, so we can handle more weigh that way compared to when the elbows point up.
I think you missed the point about what Neil said, he was replying to someone who had the misconception that there was such a thing as a shaping exercise, which of course there isn't. It isn't possible to "shape" a muscle; it's only possible to build it.
@CaneFu Unequal building causes a change in shape, since it grows wider faster than it grows longer (if it does that at all). Like an oval progressing towards a circle. Also, my response was to the latter half of the post about the isolation of rear deltoid which isn't happening here. The weight we can use with strict transverse extension is even less.
@CaneFu Dude, when a muscle hypertrophies, it gets bigger, do we agree? Thinking of a myofibril as a cylinder, would you say the length and the radius increase in the same ratio? I do not, the radius clearly increases faster than the length, if the length changes at all.
Therefore, while the shape is still cylindrical, and while the radius increases at a uniform length along the cylinder, it is still a cylinder with a different shape, just as there are different kinds of rectangles or triangles
All a muscle can do is get bigger and it's ultimate shape is predetermined by genetics - NOT the exercises you do. Any bodybuilding exercise you do will either make the muscle bigger or it won't. There is no such thing as "shaping" exercises.
@CaneFu I'm not saying there's such a thing as shaping exercises. I'm saying that all hypertrophy changes shape because it changes the dimensions with a different ratio. If you double the circumference of your upper arm muscles (bicep, tricep, etc) then they will not have doubled in length as they have in thickness. So it is a change in shape. It's like if you doubled a thin rectangle into something approaching square-ish.
Genes (not genetics) determine tendon length and attachment sites.
240p we meet again...
superdrengendk12 3 months ago
First of all he's doing it wrong, you shouldn't swing, which he is seemingly doing. Also this is dumbell incline rear lateral raise.
trickster
Nidud 6 months ago
You are lucky I want a bench like this
tyciol 1 year ago
Is this for the lats or delts?
Supduplemup 1 year ago
@Supduplemup It's for the posterior and medial deltoid. The lats don't pull effectively at that angle.
tyciol 1 year ago
very good
26DeislerFCB 1 year ago
thx for the demo. i am considering poliquin's GVT and on this exercise they say "making sure the top two knuckles are in line with your ears at the top of the movement" but i was unsure of the overall hand position.
44pullups 2 years ago
Yes but he was just showing form. I am sure he could have easily done 15. No need to give people shit for demonstrating something.
anonpoolaidsect 3 years ago 3
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WOW UR STRONGGGG!!!!! 7 reps!!!!.... what a fag
lebsdabestt 4 years ago
He was showing excellent form it was not about how heavy or how many reps..
anonpoolaidsect 4 years ago 6
Idiot. You wouldn't want to go to heavy on these anyway these are perfect shaping exercise
anonpoolaidsect 3 years ago
7 rep isnt good. For this workout he have to do 10-15 rep.
lebsdabestt 3 years ago
anonpoolaidsect:
"You wouldn't want to go to heavy on these anyway these are perfect shaping exercise "
That is a misconception as there is no such thing as a shaping exercise. Either an exercise builds muscle or it doesn't.
In this case you wouldn't want to go heavy simply because rear laterals are intended to isolate the rear deltoids which are a very weak and small muscle.
Using too much weight forces some of the larger back muscles to take over and makes one "cheat" the exercise.
Neil6000 3 years ago
@Neil6000 The way he's doing them (externally rotated) it's transverse abduction rather than extension, so the medial deltoid is helping just as much if not more than the posterior, so we can handle more weigh that way compared to when the elbows point up.
tyciol 1 year ago
@tyciol
I think you missed the point about what Neil said, he was replying to someone who had the misconception that there was such a thing as a shaping exercise, which of course there isn't. It isn't possible to "shape" a muscle; it's only possible to build it.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu Unequal building causes a change in shape, since it grows wider faster than it grows longer (if it does that at all). Like an oval progressing towards a circle. Also, my response was to the latter half of the post about the isolation of rear deltoid which isn't happening here. The weight we can use with strict transverse extension is even less.
tyciol 1 year ago
@tyciol
Sorry pal, but you're a misinformed boob. It is NOT possible to change the shape of a muscle.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu Dude, when a muscle hypertrophies, it gets bigger, do we agree? Thinking of a myofibril as a cylinder, would you say the length and the radius increase in the same ratio? I do not, the radius clearly increases faster than the length, if the length changes at all.
Therefore, while the shape is still cylindrical, and while the radius increases at a uniform length along the cylinder, it is still a cylinder with a different shape, just as there are different kinds of rectangles or triangles
tyciol 1 year ago
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CaneFu 1 year ago
@tyciol
All a muscle can do is get bigger and it's ultimate shape is predetermined by genetics - NOT the exercises you do. Any bodybuilding exercise you do will either make the muscle bigger or it won't. There is no such thing as "shaping" exercises.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu I'm not saying there's such a thing as shaping exercises. I'm saying that all hypertrophy changes shape because it changes the dimensions with a different ratio. If you double the circumference of your upper arm muscles (bicep, tricep, etc) then they will not have doubled in length as they have in thickness. So it is a change in shape. It's like if you doubled a thin rectangle into something approaching square-ish.
Genes (not genetics) determine tendon length and attachment sites.
tyciol 1 year ago
@tyciol
"I'm not saying there's such a thing as shaping exercises"
YES, YOU DID and here's your post...
"You wouldn't want to go heavy on these anyway these are perfect shaping exercise"
Just admit that you were wrong rather than all this ridiculous back-pedaling you are now doing. Seriously dude, there's something wrong with you.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu Read again, anonpoolaidsect said that, not me.
tyciol 1 year ago
@tyciol
Then I don't know what the hell you are arguing with me about. Do you just enjoy being a troll?
CaneFu 1 year ago