I'm have asperger's & married someone who I thought had AS. However, when he noticed my AS traits he belittled/judged me, punished me w/ silent treatments & cannot understand my disability (before, he was understanding but his true side showed disapproval toward my social awkwardness).I believe he has NPD b/c he all of a sudden he stopped caring and understanding showed hate and disapproval. He's nice to others but can barely bring himself to be nice to me and acts mean and verbally abusive.
I've read your book, and I find it quite fascinating. I was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, but I don't relate to other self-proclaimed "Aspies" at all. If I say so myself, I think that I'm just too clever to be truly diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Basically, the only symptom of Aspergers that I have is "shutting down" during stressful confrontation, but that's only because I'm waiting for the offensive person to shut the fuck up and leave me alone without engaging him/her.
I suffer from Aspergers and I think this speaks alot of truth about us. But not all of us Aspies withdraw you see I quickly picked up on the fact that people will think I'm odd no matter what I do. So I decided to stay outgoing and have fun with it. Anyway I really enjoyed this vid. Do you think you can do more vids about Aspergers?
hi, is it possible that both npd and aspie exist in the same person? or a person with a dissociative identity disorder where the other is a narcissist and the other is an aspie.
Describing your feelings to an Aspie is like explaining the beauty of a rainbow to a colourblind person. They might peer briefly at the sepia band, puzzled by your fascination with it . Describing your feelings or a beautiful rainbow to a narcissist just makes them jealous of the attention you're paying to such trivial things when you could be focusing on them, their feelings, beauty, or expert knowledge of light spectrum wavelengths. They both act bored though, making it hard to tell. :-/
@rhapsodyblue100 No, actually to an Aspie its more like describing the rainbow but in a foreign language, the aspie can see colour, and so can the foreign person, but they still can't communicate about it. Usually people don't actually know how to describe their feelings in words, because they rely on facial expressions and body language without even realising it. And without being able to understand those non-verbal cues the aspie just hears a jumble of unrelated illogical points.
Very interesting and informative. From what I have understood in your post is that the aspergers mantra is 'If only I could I would' whereas the narcissist is so wrapped up in their own disorder that change becomes undesirable. The narcissist is who s/he is and that's that.
Dear Mr Vaknin, I was not aware of narcissism until after I escaped a 3 year abuse relationship. This is when I choose to research abuse to understand how I had become involved in such a relationship. This is when I then discovered NPD, and your book. It turned out; I had been dating a malignant narcissist for those 3 years! Anyway, thank-you for your amazing book, which I read intensively! It covers NPD thoroughly – it was bang on!!!
Lastly, oddly enough, I then ended up dating an Aspie! Again, completely unaware of what that disorder was too! What I have discovered is that there ARE clear similarities between the two disorders, and if a person is attracted to NPD the odds are is that they could also potentially be attracted to AS and vice versa. It actually blows my mind how I found those same features and characteristics attractive all over again!
When does the narcissist become his real self? Is the real self pleasant or nonpleasant? When he becomes his real self, does he feel free and in control again?
I think you are well spoken, however I have to comment on a few things. I have AS..or AD if you wish, and the passion for which I pursue my interests is not done as a result of social ridicule.
@SepherStar I have it too, the fact of the matter is, I find no sense in conforming to be accepted, I doubt I will ever understand people to the full extent, therefore I also doubt that I'd ever truly fit in, therefore I tend to focus on evolving the way I think without a living guideline. The social world seems quite hopeless to me, however I see much wrong in the world and so I became interested in Philosophy, the counter-cultural type of course. I believe that people are culturally corrupt.
I wonder if Mr. Darcy from "Pride and Prejudice" is good example of this. The other characters hated him because he seemed indifferent and cold. I think they thought he thought he was better than them. There was another character, name started with W, took advantage of Darcy's reputation to say things and manipulate perception of himself to compete with him for status. That guy (Mr. W.) might have been narcissistic. I read the book 4 years ago, details fading.
@qwexas Mr. Darcy in the fiction you note is yes a narcissist. Asperger's can be quite kind, but often interested in only a couple of subjects can be genius and they have trouble reading what you are feeling. but they can be supportive and hug if you ask.... often they just do not have a clue.
this is funny as hell with the Transcribe Audio turned on.
Awesome video though, I just dumped a slut last night for her narcissistic behavior. She's a government worker, phony, fake, fat, promiscuous and always in need of praise and approval. Thank you for making me feel better about my decision to leave her and keep up the good work / videos.
I'm have asperger's & married someone who I thought had AS. However, when he noticed my AS traits he belittled/judged me, punished me w/ silent treatments & cannot understand my disability (before, he was understanding but his true side showed disapproval toward my social awkwardness).I believe he has NPD b/c he all of a sudden he stopped caring and understanding showed hate and disapproval. He's nice to others but can barely bring himself to be nice to me and acts mean and verbally abusive.
MzSuperMinni 2 weeks ago
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babsfreedom 4 days ago
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@MzSuperMinni Sounds like you deserve a better life with a good man. Don't take the abuse from anyone regardless of his or her mental diagnosis.
There are more fish in the sea. Good luck.
babsfreedom 4 days ago
I've read your book, and I find it quite fascinating. I was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, but I don't relate to other self-proclaimed "Aspies" at all. If I say so myself, I think that I'm just too clever to be truly diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Basically, the only symptom of Aspergers that I have is "shutting down" during stressful confrontation, but that's only because I'm waiting for the offensive person to shut the fuck up and leave me alone without engaging him/her.
anonymous19601 2 months ago
And that's really only with my mother, whose pretty much Mommie Dearest.
anonymous19601 2 months ago
I suffer from Aspergers and I think this speaks alot of truth about us. But not all of us Aspies withdraw you see I quickly picked up on the fact that people will think I'm odd no matter what I do. So I decided to stay outgoing and have fun with it. Anyway I really enjoyed this vid. Do you think you can do more vids about Aspergers?
Michelo17 3 months ago
hi, is it possible that both npd and aspie exist in the same person? or a person with a dissociative identity disorder where the other is a narcissist and the other is an aspie.
numey 3 months ago
How do you know that a "NPD" person is really faking empathy and attentiveness?
PerpetualTiredness 4 months ago
This is skillfully observed and very well-articulated. Thanks.
bigschnabel 5 months ago
Thank you for showing the difference. What about the difference between Antisocial Personality Disorder vs. Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
creatrixdesign 7 months ago
@creatrixdesign See the relevant video on my channel.
samvaknin 6 months ago
i dont mind having Asperger's but i most differently do
slonerider777 7 months ago
Describing your feelings to an Aspie is like explaining the beauty of a rainbow to a colourblind person. They might peer briefly at the sepia band, puzzled by your fascination with it . Describing your feelings or a beautiful rainbow to a narcissist just makes them jealous of the attention you're paying to such trivial things when you could be focusing on them, their feelings, beauty, or expert knowledge of light spectrum wavelengths. They both act bored though, making it hard to tell. :-/
rhapsodyblue100 7 months ago 4
@rhapsodyblue100 very well put.
thepixieful 6 months ago
@rhapsodyblue100 No, actually to an Aspie its more like describing the rainbow but in a foreign language, the aspie can see colour, and so can the foreign person, but they still can't communicate about it. Usually people don't actually know how to describe their feelings in words, because they rely on facial expressions and body language without even realising it. And without being able to understand those non-verbal cues the aspie just hears a jumble of unrelated illogical points.
elfabyanos 4 months ago
@rhapsodyblue100
There are different types of aspies
People with high functioning aspergers quite often do read or empathise with people's emotions, but just don't know how to respond or behave.
aaaaaFuck 4 weeks ago
Very interesting and informative. From what I have understood in your post is that the aspergers mantra is 'If only I could I would' whereas the narcissist is so wrapped up in their own disorder that change becomes undesirable. The narcissist is who s/he is and that's that.
trevc5197 9 months ago
Dear Mr Vaknin, I was not aware of narcissism until after I escaped a 3 year abuse relationship. This is when I choose to research abuse to understand how I had become involved in such a relationship. This is when I then discovered NPD, and your book. It turned out; I had been dating a malignant narcissist for those 3 years! Anyway, thank-you for your amazing book, which I read intensively! It covers NPD thoroughly – it was bang on!!!
ladyrockit 10 months ago
Lastly, oddly enough, I then ended up dating an Aspie! Again, completely unaware of what that disorder was too! What I have discovered is that there ARE clear similarities between the two disorders, and if a person is attracted to NPD the odds are is that they could also potentially be attracted to AS and vice versa. It actually blows my mind how I found those same features and characteristics attractive all over again!
ladyrockit 10 months ago
When does the narcissist become his real self? Is the real self pleasant or nonpleasant? When he becomes his real self, does he feel free and in control again?
Kathleenprov 11 months ago
chris chan
bobbybenjamin 1 year ago 2
god help us all.... seems to me there is a little of all disorders in everyone, except me.
gettingahandle 1 year ago
@gettingahandle LOL!
Greensleeves1984 1 year ago
I think you are well spoken, however I have to comment on a few things. I have AS..or AD if you wish, and the passion for which I pursue my interests is not done as a result of social ridicule.
SepherStar 1 year ago 3
@SepherStar I have it too, the fact of the matter is, I find no sense in conforming to be accepted, I doubt I will ever understand people to the full extent, therefore I also doubt that I'd ever truly fit in, therefore I tend to focus on evolving the way I think without a living guideline. The social world seems quite hopeless to me, however I see much wrong in the world and so I became interested in Philosophy, the counter-cultural type of course. I believe that people are culturally corrupt.
Vottaro 2 weeks ago
@SepherStar That seems to be only one comment. What are the rest of your comments if you have any?
babsfreedom 4 days ago
I wonder if Mr. Darcy from "Pride and Prejudice" is good example of this. The other characters hated him because he seemed indifferent and cold. I think they thought he thought he was better than them. There was another character, name started with W, took advantage of Darcy's reputation to say things and manipulate perception of himself to compete with him for status. That guy (Mr. W.) might have been narcissistic. I read the book 4 years ago, details fading.
qwexas 1 year ago 3
@qwexas His name is Mr. Wiccam, but I don't know if I spelled that right!
Greensleeves1984 1 year ago
@qwexas Mr. Darcy in the fiction you note is yes a narcissist. Asperger's can be quite kind, but often interested in only a couple of subjects can be genius and they have trouble reading what you are feeling. but they can be supportive and hug if you ask.... often they just do not have a clue.
thepixieful 6 months ago
this is funny as hell with the Transcribe Audio turned on.
Awesome video though, I just dumped a slut last night for her narcissistic behavior. She's a government worker, phony, fake, fat, promiscuous and always in need of praise and approval. Thank you for making me feel better about my decision to leave her and keep up the good work / videos.
poignant4insights 1 year ago 2