turk the jerk an intelligent person would discuss that who knows what god is not they know. if there is a god i doubt any boyd knowsmuch about him this guy is all polticics and idiots dont understand what a politician is
atheist should have the right to advertise just like every religion does. if u are a man of faith aka a moron then it wont change your mind anyways so why fight it.
now im a christian but i dont like the fact that some of these christians are posting posters and trying to make people belive in god i just think you should just leave people alone if they dont want to belive in god then thats their bussines and i respect that no where in the bible does it say to force people or annoy people
@Saleen456 Oooh, someone's panties are in a twist.
Did I say you said we should force people? No, I didn't. I said you haven't read your Bible, because you presented a claim ("no where in the bible does it say to force people") which is painfully ignorant of what it actually DOES say in the Bible.
By the way, telling me to "learn to read" when you clearly didn't properly digest what I typed before reacting, while failing to utilize proper capitalization and punctuation is textbook irony.
@Saleen456 Reread my previous post until you understand how incredibly stupid your response is. I already explained this.
Oh fuck it, you're too stupid to understand.
Response: I don't care. But when you're going to throw a hissy fit about someone's reading comprehension, you should at least have the decency to properly utilize the rules of grammar and punctuation. I was pointing out the irony of the situation, not legitimately blasting you for your dismally poor communication skills.
@Saleen456 So...do you care to address the actual meat and potatoes of my post and admit that you're wrong regarding the Bible, or do you wish to continue to deflect and try to turn the discussion to one of reading, grammar, and punctuation?
@TrevorBlack79 If i'm wrong tell me what book in the bible, and quote the exact same words, it says where you need to annoy people and force them by putting a gun toward their head.
@Saleen456 Deuteronomy 13: 6-9 and Deuteronomy 17:3-5. The verses are far too long for YT comments, so pick up your Bible and read. These passages command death for deconversion and apostasy.
@Arimus66 Ok, you have a right to voice your opinion!!! BUT don't go changing what this country was built on. For example, the pledge of allegiance, or the dollar with the "In God We Trust"
hahah. The "under God" in the pledge of allegiance was added in the 1950's by a Catholic organization. The "in God we trust" was also added in the mid 1900's. You guys changed it; we're just trying to change it back to the way this country was built on: the separation of church and state.
@almostskater3210 The country was BUILT under god, in the CONSTITUTION. You can petition for what you want because it's your right. I personally just don't agree. Believe me I have doubts in this whole god crap, but will keep it .
It was built explicitly on the separation of church and state because the founding fathers knew the horrors going on in Europe because of mixing religion and politics. You just want to limit peoples freedom and tip equality towards the Christians. it wont fly. That is like saying black people cant put up posters about their race. Sorry but this isn't Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. we have some freedom.
@almostskater3210 Understood mate. When you boil it down to black activists, they sure can, but if white people do it they are likely to get charged at in a black town. I can't even walk down the street of the black side of town. Believe me, I don't think this god thing is correct, it doesnt add up!!! I can't stand when people throw god in my face. Can't stand people who think they are better because of it. You have officially changed my view on a couple things. You are a good debater! Thanks!!!
haha no problem. I am an agnostic; some things the human mind will never be able to truly understand, and I think God (if he/she/it is real) is one of them. Things like that supersede our mental capacity, and most religions try to dumb it down (like giving God human qualities). God (again, if he's real) transcends space-time so we would have to think in knew dimensions to grasp this question, which cannot and will never happen, at least in our physical bodies.
Atheism is most commonly found through education and logic.By conceding when the evidence and/or probability is shown to be other than you previously believed, it naturally creates a world where people agree with eachother. Not because some hard to believe book has been drilled into their heads, but because some hard evidence or probability can't be ignored.
Religion does more harm to our species and the earth than atheism. Religion has been the leading cause of war over the last few thousand years, followed by greed. We see more recently that religious differences can be tolerated; though they remain differing.
so hold on. Athiests can't have a sign but Christians can shove religion down the throats of america with THOUSANDS of CHRISTmas decor? and adds on TV? my god (no pun intended) people are so close minded i guess i am technically catholic but i don't give a damn what atheists say about god. people are freaking retarded.
I actually love this. "There'd never be any Christian signs...wait a minute!!" Lol. I have never been to NYC never mind on the subway but I thought that was brilliant. :)
Sean Hannity is a fucking dumbass bitchmade fool who seems not to know that america is a country of many faiths and beliefs that are all important and equal.
Dude stop talking shit & just shut the fuck up!!!!
0:49 - They do and they go one step further. They shout it at street corners and approuch people in the street. Dumb people like to cry over advertising.
man watching that rant i could have sworn the guy was being sarcastic with "can you imagine...what outrage", i could have SWORN he was being sarcastic...but he was being serious? are you kidding me?
Hannity sometimes makes sense and I agree with him, but seriously? Christians do this stuff all the time and no one says a damn thing. I see billboards all the time about God and Christian radio stations and christians trying to sell something to the general public.
Garry Habermas debate with Antony Flew on the issue " did Jesus rise from the dead ?"
a professional debate judge who was asked to evaluate the debate concludes
the historical evidence , though flawed , is strong enough to lead reasonable minds to conclude that Christ did indeed rise from the dead .... Habermas dose end up providing "highly probably evidence" for the historicity of the resurrection " with no plausible naturalistic evidence against it"
Your reply comment doesn't make any sense. But then to an "infidel" like myself who doesn't believe in any religion, let alone an hour of religion, what does? FYI, that was sarcasm up above in case you missed it.
You are right--I missed the sarcasm but the comment makes sense--is actually incisive, if I do say so myself--to wit that many Americans "believe" in religion in the abstract without having any idea what the particular religion is that they "believe" in.
I have read the Four Gospels several times in Greek and in the mode of Jefferson have no severe objections to the actual dicta of the person identified as Jesus Christ.
Most "Christians"strike me as antithetical to anything found here.
Why are people on here arguing about whether God exists? Nobody is going to change their beliefs through a youtube comment! just leave thiests and athiests to themselves. is that just too hard?
Well, as an Atheist, I like to have the debate. I'd like to know what they are thinking since they've moved into the political square, because I want to know how to fight the people that are oppressing me (I'm gay)... What is their interest? I don't know.
@jophus82 jophus82 .Well the fact that you are a carpet munching shirtlifter is enough reason to oppress you never mind that your an athiest.We dont give a damn what you believe in just stop spreading aids and other diseases you damn poofter.
And you take that dick out of your arse you dirty little pervert.There is NO excuse for that.Poisoning the minds of the children with your homo shirtlifter ideas.
@frankbough1955 Obviously you are the one who is gay and is in denial about it, Frank! Why don't you just be true to your innate nature and come out of the closet? Is it perhaps that you are scared of the kind of ridicule you yourself dish out? Hmmm. ;-)
OOps did i say that.Actually i have gay friends and your welcome to go on bumming as you wish.What i object to is that it is accepted as normal behaviour.Its not .Its perverted.Admit to that and people will leave you funny fellows alone.
It really bothers you that I'm gay doesn't it? Get the fuck over it. Are you going to talk about the issue or are you going to keep thinking about my cock?
@el3m3ntsk8s Because many people who are convinced about their belief in God would change the way I live my life if given their druthers. In fact, they see it as part of the personal responsbility to their God to get me to change the way I think. Since they're not content to leave me alone, why should I extend the privilege to them? That said, I have no desire to change their lives. It's just more fun to point out the absurdities of their beliefs.
@el3m3ntsk8s Fuck that attitude. Speak what you belief! Espically if you an athiest. Answer to your initial dumbass question: So that the people can come to a cumulative logical answer. So Christains with radical beliefs don't run the country. So smart people wake up and learn a little. You should do the same. Thumbs-All the way Fucking-Down!
I'm an atheist, but this guy goes off about a three second clip where an obvious troll is being an obvious troll to appease to right wing people who live in Kansas. He needs to get viewers, how does he get viewers? He tells people living where creationism is taught in school that the rest of the country is immoral heathens. Is he wrong to do so? Damn right. Is it a very Christian tactic? Look at the Crusades and the Holocaust and you'll find it's not surprising, but expected.
Also, none of you can prove that God exists, and none of you can prove that he/it does not exist. Being a gnostic atheist is as bad as being an extremist, gnostic theist. Logic supports the concepts of atheism much more readily than theism, but it does not quantify proof.
All any of us can "prove" is that it is highly unlikely that any of us actually know the truth.
Why do people always want to argue religion in comments like this? The video did not seem to me to necessarily support or condemn religion or atheism. Hannity is a crappy, self serving, opinionated commentator, rather than a journalist. That is the point here.
Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the dark yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and reason.
I try to be more compassionate about religion due to the fact that many of the people I care about default to how they were raised. However, for just this one moment I'm going to be honest.
It is absurd to believe in religion or god knowing what we know today. In order to believe in any of it you have to consciously ignore all of the incongruities with reality and science. A perfect example is the bible failing to mention the millions upon millions of years the dinosaurs existed.
Rationality has its uses, but things like, art, for example would not exist in a world dominated by pure reason. I don't believe anybody is purely rational, if you were you would be a very boring person.
My point with the lawns, there is no logical reason we do it apart from to make our lawns look good. Why do we need them to look good? What exactly is so good looking about a mowed lawn? There is no answer to these questions for the simple fact that mowing lawns is irrational.
The story of creation in the bible is a allegory for the loss of innocence, I mean "tree of knowledge", what part of that does not sound symbolic? Just because stupid people take it literally does not mean that god does not exist.
I don't pretend belief in god is rational, it isn't. But neither is life. I am not ignoring anything, I just have a very good gut feeling. Much like you. I find it hard to accept that when I die "I just die" for a number of very good reasons you wouldn't believe.
You are confusing religious law with bible stories. The laws in Deuteronomy were written by people, they are the bronze age equivalent of our legal system.
Like I said, you can disprove the logic of that law, but you cant disprove god, which is a being completely beyond our understanding.
You can call god and asshole, but that does not disprove his existence.
God is an asshole, an evil, moronic, egotistical, childish, psychopath, and that certainly proves he doesn't exist. What are you thinking? I'm a mere human, but I'm smarter, kinder and far more morally intelligent than he is, as are you. How can something as massively stupid as the God of the Bible be responsible for a single thing in creation? A God so quick to violence and vengeance and so loving he threatens everyone ever created with torture for all time, he's responsible for our universe?
No, that proves he is evil. Evil people exist, I have met them. And what is moral really depends on opinion doesn't it? Plenty of pedophiles think what they are doing is perfectly acceptable.
The burden of proof rests on those making the claim. Sorry about that one. Believers have what we can call the God hypothesis. They make a claim that God exists. Ok, now show evidence (a lower bar than proof). "Oh, I have an Iron Age book full of disprovable, immoral nonsense." Atheist conclusion: I must reject your hypothesis.
And right here is the fault in everything you just typed. God is beyond human science, you can not measure god, you can not speak to god, you can not in any conclusive way measure god on any scientific level. God is not science, god is above science. God is metaphysical, our physics have nothing to do with whether god exists or not.
You can not prove god just like you cant disprove god. The scientific method is useless.
Believing god is all faith based. That is where atheists come in...to point out that the thing you are having faith in is helping you in no way and the book it leads by is filled with nothing but, lies, hate, and contradictions.
Did you ever read the bible? It has it's positive passages as well as the negative ones. Most people tend to ignore the negative ones, you will notice. But I am not going to debate about things in a 6000 year old book that contradicts itself every new chapter.
Faith is what everybody goes on, including atheists. You people have faith in the idea that after you die nothing happens, even though you don't really know.
"prove to me god does NOT exist?" You cant. But if you start thinking this way, then you have to prove to me that the underwear god or Xenu does not exist. Rational thinking is the way to go, our society is getting better because of it.
Then why are people arguing? You cant prove anything, nobody can. Everybody just says to themselves, "well, I ASSUME this is what is true, so it must be true" and then goes on with their lives.
WRONG. I can prove that no unicorns exist in my soda conclusively right now. It is impossible to disprove a UNIVERSAL negative, but it is not impossible to disprove all negatives. The more specific the claim, the easier it is to disprove. I can conclusively disprove many definitions of god.
I can also prove that there is not a ten foot wide spider crawling around on my roof..but we are not talking about giant spiders are we?
You can disprove a book, not the idea which inspired the book. That idea being god. So go, disprove a book written by people for people, the idea is still there.
Actually, my reply about the unicorn wasn't to you or about our discussion. It was to someone who claimed that a negative could not be proven. That was the claim. It is false.
Deists do believe that deity is a creative force, but after the creation was complete has nothing to do with it. Deity may or may not even be aware that the creation happened.
Ok, now about the most major religions. The revealed text religions are those in the Abrahamic line. To believe that, you must believe that god waited silent for most of the 100,000 years (min) that humans have been on this planet. "It" watched 99% of species become extinct. It watched wars, famine, a life expectancy of 20 years, and high rates of infant immortality completely silent and uncaring.
Then about 4000 (but no more than 6000) years ago, god finally decided to intervene and give a revelation in one of the most underdeveloped and illiterate parts of the world, and to wait for it to reach the other parts of the world. That revelation was scientifically and morally flawed, or was recorded with scientific and moral flaws. Severe ones. God thought this was the best way to communicate with humanity. I'm missing the profound truth in any Abrahamic text, btw.
I've read and studied them all in detail and have yet to find any profound truth. I find homophobia, misogyny, genocide, rape, etc directly from Yahweh (the god character) but no profound truth.
Plenty of things worth listening to in the bible, ever read the beatitudes? "Blessed are the peacemakers and those who strive for justice"
Damn, that is some sick shit right there.
There is something worth listening to everywhere. Even Somebody like Stalin had his moment of brilliance. For example, "1 death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic".
Ancient Israelite's believed the world was a lot newer then it was, mainly because before 6000 years ago there was not any written records or much civilization in general. I don't expect them to think of the earth as being billions of years old, they had no way of knowing that.
Native American society's as well as eastern religions believe in a cycle of death and rebirth, that the world always destroys and rebuilds itself. So there is that.
You are just spouting out logical fallicies left and right. It is boring to debate someone who ignores the little voice in their head that is logic. I hope you come around to the thinking side!
What is the thinking side? Your side? I am pretty sure you and me are at the same level, really. Don't get arrogant.
Specify, what exactly have I said that is wrong? Confusing and hard to formulate into words(people have written whole books about this shit), but wrong? No, not unless you can actually prove me wrong.
I do believe I already went over this with a thousand different people....
You are not rational, rationality is boring. Pure rationality is a Vulcan thing, I like emotions.
Assuming something does not exist is as stupid as assuming something does exist, really you don't know and are going on a gut feeling. In other words, you have faith god does not exist.
Nobody thinks rationally. why do people mow there lawns? To make their lawns look good right? Why do they need their lawns to look good?
ogloosh, the scientific method is useless? Then how can us post with your computer. What is useless is all the time and human resources wasted on a non-existent god. Yes, I can prove your god does not exist. Any time you;re ready to prove he does, ir even if you're not, I can prove he does not exist.
Why is it that nobody ever reads the entire comment and only focuses on one sentence? I said the scientific method is useless when talking ab out god, because science can not explain something beyond our plain of existence. You cant measure something unmeasurable.
The problems of the world are caused by greed and arrogance, two things that would exist even if everybody was an atheist.
I said MOST of the problems of the world are caused by religion. Why is it you never read the entire comment but only the part that you think you can disprove?
Science can and does explain things beyond the plain of our existence. If you knew anything about science, you would never have made that statement.
Yes, I CAN disprove the Jewish/christian/islamic god and have done so many times. I suspect most religious people know this and that's why so few answer the challenge.
So, tell me, has the existence of alternate plains of existence been proven or disproved by anybody? No, its a theory. Give me one example of science having anything to do with alternate universes that is NOT theory.
I know plenty about science, I just don't think it is advanced enough to prove or disprove the existence of god. And it isn't.
No, you can prove books wrong. Not the god that supposedly inspired it.
If you know plenty about science, let me congratulate you on how well you concel it.
Also, when did I, or anyone say that science can disprove the existence of god? I said I can disprove the existence of the Jewish/christian/islamic omnipotent father-figure god. Perhaps you do read the entire comment, you just have a comprehension deficit.
"Science can and does explain things beyond the plain of our existence. If you knew anything about science, you would never have made that statement."
Science does not explain ANYTHING beyond our plain of existence and i would like you to give me one example of it doing that.
I did read the whole comment, you can disprove the science in the bible(or any other religious text) all you want, it is not a science textbook. That does not disprove god.
OK, how about the existence of other worlds around distant stars. The presence of the "dark matter" that makes up most of the universe. Then there are black holes,and antimatter to name a few. You really are not improving your credibility or reputation. Wasn't it Mark Twin who said, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."?
Personally, I find this inane and boring beyond tolerance and decline to wste any more time on it.
All of those things exist in OUR plain of existence, you will notice. THEORETICALLY one could find a wormhole or something, which THEORETICALLY could lead to another part of OUR universe. And even if it did lead to another universe, it is still THEORETICAL. Dark matter is a gravitational force, also. Its what pushes things away from other things.
So, just admit it. Science currently can not observe in any way a theoretical alternate universe. And yet the theory is still there...
This is ridiculous. There are lots of things that cannot be directly observed but we know they exist or at least most likely exist due to their effects on other things. And twist your final line against you and admit it yourself. No one can currently observe in any way a theoretical god. And yet the idea is still there. That means less than nothing. A lie is a lie even if the whole world believes it. The truth will always be the truth even if no one believes it.
@Fait2 those are all natural phenomena within our plane of existence. There's no evidence for anything OUTSIDE of the natural realm at all.
Of course this is all irrelevant. God claims are within the scope of empirical investigation as soon as you claim the god has any interaction with the natural world--that interaction must by definition be observable and falsifiable.
I'm an Atheist and I too would like to know how you can prove non-existence of something.
We are brought into this world not knowing of God. It is something that is taught to us right? Therefor, our non-believe is natural and this group of people are telling us that a God does exist. We don't have to prove it, they do. The burden of proof lies in the hands of the prosecution.
We can't prove that something isn't there, but only something that is - like dozens of transitional species.
@jophus82 i mean you can't make a scientific test on it, since the scientific method is used on natural things, not supernatural, which is the same thing with god, allah or santa claus.
however, you can make assumptions and assertions for example, if there's no accountable evidence for something, then it can surely be dismissed.
@93alvbjo I respect what you are saying, but what is supernatural? If anything exists, it was created in the natural world out of natural things.... It is natural. Things that have not been explained are either misconceptions, delusions, or something natural that hasn't been understood yet.
Can you restate the second half of your comment? I'm not sure what you are saying there. Any theory can be dismissed? I would agree with that. Some facts can be dismissed as well.
@jophus82 like you can dissmiss lepricons since there aren't any evidence that supports them. and something that doesn't have any evidence to support it, IS supernatural, im sorry but that's the way it is.
Most? Really? So religion is responsible for the collapse of the banking industry, human trafficking, imperialism(economic in nature, mind you), malaria, plague, drought, overpopulation, enviromental destruction...I could go on.
Most wars, even the ones supposedly fought over religion, are fought for many reasons. Even Bin Laden's agenda is by and large political.
Religion is not a monolith, everybody has different interpretations of things. Even the most radical nutjob is in the minority.
Again, you seem unable to read an entire comment. I said MOST, not ALL. YOu are too focused on defending the greatest scam aver worked on human beings, why is that?
Most is true. It's only people who refuse to believe plain evidence present in the world today. Most of the wars and conflicts going on at this moment are either based upon religion or using religion as an excuse for their being. Yes, if there were no religion, greed and hate would still exist. But religion and it's "leaders" serve to exacerbate it. Those are FACTS. Ignore them all you want, but they are still facts.
Religion did not create greed, greed creates wars. Regardless of whether they encourage it or not it would still be there. Religion is not the cause of any of the worlds problems, peoples own stupidity is. And stupidity and greed are not traits reserved solely for the religious.
Wars are fought over power and resources, religion is just one reason among many.
"God is beyond human science, you can not measure god, you can not speak to god, you can not in any conclusive way measure god on any scientific level." Yet you are so absolutely certain a god exists. Based upon what?
Certain? No, just assuming. Like I said, I don't pretend its rational. But lots of things we do are not rational, but we do them anyway. Why? Because it makes life better.
Also, gut feelings about life after death and personal reasons I wont type because you wont believe anyway.
Assuming? That's means accepting something for which you have no evidence. No, it's not rational, nor even intelligent. I doubt anyone expected better, though.
You are assuming you are right, I mean, logically you don't know what happens after you die. Like I already typed, and educated guess is still a guess. Me and you are on the same level.
You are the one making the claim that something exists, not I. I need not prove or evidence anything. Substantiating your claim that god exists is your problem. I'm glad it is your problem and not mine. You don't believe a five assed purple flying platypus lives on Mars, do you? Yet, you are not being unreasonable to disbelieve such a claim, and the person who needs to prove the claim is the one saying the purple platypus exists. Same thing with your all powerful space daddy.
For a long time, people thought giant squids were a myth. So, for all we know, somwhere out there in the universe there is a five assed purple flying platypus. And scientists are still debating the possibility of life on mars, so who knows.
This whole debate is a stalemate because when it comes down to it, both of us are just doing the same thing. Assuming. An educated guess is still a guess.
"Can you imagine the outrage if a Christian group put pro-god ads in New York city subways?"
They do it all the time Hannity. All we ask is that you don't promote your montheistic religion with our tax money (payed by people of many religions, non religions and so on).
I thought repubs were all for freedom of public displays and free speech an...oh who the hell am I kidding, they don't have a structure of beliefs anymore, they just make up this shit as they go along.
Hannity is so eager to be a hypocrite and then looks so smug on the camera even when he's lying to himself. I'm getting nauseous.
this annoys me so much because not only is it a national right for these signs to be put up but to complain about our 'propoganda' even after centuries of religeous posters and awareness leaflets telling people the end is nigh and we're gunna burn hgynhgnhgb arrrg damn fox news pisses me off
According to the people at my church, Atheists are NOT intitled to the constitutional guarantees. This is one the reasons I haven't been back in a while.
I want to see some hot sexy pirate females preaching the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, christians and theists do it all the time, so come on up pastafarians - now is your time to shine.
turk the jerk an intelligent person would discuss that who knows what god is not they know. if there is a god i doubt any boyd knowsmuch about him this guy is all polticics and idiots dont understand what a politician is
tomanyasses 4 months ago
Fox couldn't find the middle with both hands.
BramSLI1 4 months ago
atheist should have the right to advertise just like every religion does. if u are a man of faith aka a moron then it wont change your mind anyways so why fight it.
halo3isme1 5 months ago
I usually hate this guy when he's on TV, but he's not so idiotic here.
brajamtho757 5 months ago
now im a christian but i dont like the fact that some of these christians are posting posters and trying to make people belive in god i just think you should just leave people alone if they dont want to belive in god then thats their bussines and i respect that no where in the bible does it say to force people or annoy people
Saleen456 5 months ago
@Saleen456 "no where in the bible does it say to force people or annoy people"
Someone hasn't read their Bible.
TrevorBlack79 4 months ago
@TrevorBlack79 did i say you should force people no i didnt you fucking retard maybe you should learn to read
Saleen456 4 months ago
@Saleen456 Oooh, someone's panties are in a twist.
Did I say you said we should force people? No, I didn't. I said you haven't read your Bible, because you presented a claim ("no where in the bible does it say to force people") which is painfully ignorant of what it actually DOES say in the Bible.
By the way, telling me to "learn to read" when you clearly didn't properly digest what I typed before reacting, while failing to utilize proper capitalization and punctuation is textbook irony.
TrevorBlack79 4 months ago
@TrevorBlack79 and why do you care how someone types
Saleen456 4 months ago
@Saleen456 Reread my previous post until you understand how incredibly stupid your response is. I already explained this.
Oh fuck it, you're too stupid to understand.
Response: I don't care. But when you're going to throw a hissy fit about someone's reading comprehension, you should at least have the decency to properly utilize the rules of grammar and punctuation. I was pointing out the irony of the situation, not legitimately blasting you for your dismally poor communication skills.
TrevorBlack79 4 months ago
@Saleen456 So...do you care to address the actual meat and potatoes of my post and admit that you're wrong regarding the Bible, or do you wish to continue to deflect and try to turn the discussion to one of reading, grammar, and punctuation?
TrevorBlack79 4 months ago
@TrevorBlack79 If i'm wrong tell me what book in the bible, and quote the exact same words, it says where you need to annoy people and force them by putting a gun toward their head.
Saleen456 3 months ago
@Saleen456 Deuteronomy 13: 6-9 and Deuteronomy 17:3-5. The verses are far too long for YT comments, so pick up your Bible and read. These passages command death for deconversion and apostasy.
TrevorBlack79 3 months ago
Its NOT the point that the subways has christian posters!!! The country is made under GOD not under atheist people!!!! It should ONLY be god signs.
myover10018account 6 months ago
@myover10018account Fuck your god.
Arimus66 6 months ago
@Arimus66 Ok, you have a right to voice your opinion!!! BUT don't go changing what this country was built on. For example, the pledge of allegiance, or the dollar with the "In God We Trust"
myover10018account 6 months ago
@myover10018account
hahah. The "under God" in the pledge of allegiance was added in the 1950's by a Catholic organization. The "in God we trust" was also added in the mid 1900's. You guys changed it; we're just trying to change it back to the way this country was built on: the separation of church and state.
almostskater3210 6 months ago
@almostskater3210 The country was BUILT under god, in the CONSTITUTION. You can petition for what you want because it's your right. I personally just don't agree. Believe me I have doubts in this whole god crap, but will keep it .
myover10018account 5 months ago
@myover10018account
It was built explicitly on the separation of church and state because the founding fathers knew the horrors going on in Europe because of mixing religion and politics. You just want to limit peoples freedom and tip equality towards the Christians. it wont fly. That is like saying black people cant put up posters about their race. Sorry but this isn't Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. we have some freedom.
almostskater3210 5 months ago
@almostskater3210 Understood mate. When you boil it down to black activists, they sure can, but if white people do it they are likely to get charged at in a black town. I can't even walk down the street of the black side of town. Believe me, I don't think this god thing is correct, it doesnt add up!!! I can't stand when people throw god in my face. Can't stand people who think they are better because of it. You have officially changed my view on a couple things. You are a good debater! Thanks!!!
myover10018account 5 months ago
@myover10018account
haha no problem. I am an agnostic; some things the human mind will never be able to truly understand, and I think God (if he/she/it is real) is one of them. Things like that supersede our mental capacity, and most religions try to dumb it down (like giving God human qualities). God (again, if he's real) transcends space-time so we would have to think in knew dimensions to grasp this question, which cannot and will never happen, at least in our physical bodies.
almostskater3210 5 months ago
@almostskater3210 Exactly. I just don't believe its possible!!! People do religious things to be politically correct.
myover10018account 5 months ago
and europe laughs at the usa again
Crosell 6 months ago
Atheism is most commonly found through education and logic.By conceding when the evidence and/or probability is shown to be other than you previously believed, it naturally creates a world where people agree with eachother. Not because some hard to believe book has been drilled into their heads, but because some hard evidence or probability can't be ignored.
BearGlades 7 months ago
Religion does more harm to our species and the earth than atheism. Religion has been the leading cause of war over the last few thousand years, followed by greed. We see more recently that religious differences can be tolerated; though they remain differing.
BearGlades 7 months ago
the republican party is a party for the rich.
wam226 8 months ago
so hold on. Athiests can't have a sign but Christians can shove religion down the throats of america with THOUSANDS of CHRISTmas decor? and adds on TV? my god (no pun intended) people are so close minded i guess i am technically catholic but i don't give a damn what atheists say about god. people are freaking retarded.
yooper2 10 months ago
@yooper2 there are plenty of christian ads and you can shove it down your throat when you make laws based on it.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 8 months ago
I actually love this. "There'd never be any Christian signs...wait a minute!!" Lol. I have never been to NYC never mind on the subway but I thought that was brilliant. :)
nicola245 10 months ago
Regardless of what Sean Hannity believes in. He's a jerk.
fatfatat444 11 months ago 9
Sean Hannity is a fucking dumbass bitchmade fool who seems not to know that america is a country of many faiths and beliefs that are all important and equal.
Dude stop talking shit & just shut the fuck up!!!!
threadgill84 1 year ago 2
The only people at Fox News who take the subway are the illegal immigrants they hire to clean their toilets.
ADAMDefiant 1 year ago
@ADAMDefiant Lol So True
ProRanting 1 year ago
If I didn't know better I would think what Sean Hannity was saying was actually satire about these athiest signs getting press coverage on Fox News.
Unfortunately, he's just a moron.
ladygagaspenis 1 year ago
0:49 - They do and they go one step further. They shout it at street corners and approuch people in the street. Dumb people like to cry over advertising.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
Hannity's a ham.
lukegreen37 1 year ago
Shawn Hannity lives in La la land
RATIONALMIND001 1 year ago
I just absolutely love this show
17peteclarke 1 year ago
Oh boy, its a big deal that an atheist puts up a sign, but when a Christian does it, its considered good.
Ugh...
mit871chell 1 year ago
Sean Hannity is and will always be a arrogant, smug shitrat.
Remus0387 1 year ago
Fuck Sean Hannity
kodiakfred140 1 year ago
Americans have had it too easy for too long and they have forgoten how important freedom is..
darkbunglex 1 year ago
man watching that rant i could have sworn the guy was being sarcastic with "can you imagine...what outrage", i could have SWORN he was being sarcastic...but he was being serious? are you kidding me?
fellXhouseXranger 1 year ago
Hannity sometimes makes sense and I agree with him, but seriously? Christians do this stuff all the time and no one says a damn thing. I see billboards all the time about God and Christian radio stations and christians trying to sell something to the general public.
lionslicer9999 1 year ago
@lionslicer9999 when did Hannity ever say something sensible?
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
This guy is a pig. Go to hell.
miketent09 1 year ago
"Have you been in the subway you clown" ....
Probably not reminds me of will & Grace episode that went like this:
Grace: "Sorry I'm late, I got caught on the F train."
Karen: "Grace, is this another one of your little stories about how people travel underground in a network of trains and tunnels?"
Sounds about right .. not in touch with reality.
lordtalon69 1 year ago 4
Fucking Conservative douchebag. Any lie will do with these morons.
Xerock 1 year ago 8
Hannity is a unlettered self-righteous dumb ass who is above even breathing the air in subway tunnels. My gorge rims at this ---hole!
townsendjean 1 year ago
hahahahahahaha! stoopid faux news.....
Viinasu91 1 year ago 2
Thumbs up for everyone who would love to take a swing a hannity.
MrEatonbeaver 1 year ago 4
if sean hannity got an enema, he could fit inside a matchbox
1910887 1 year ago
@1910887 Ah, so you've seen Hannity foaming at the mouth after Hitchens.
ProbableFiction 1 year ago
Oh, poor Hannity. I feel sad for the Republican party. They hit a new low.
CouchRadish 1 year ago
"Have you ever been in a subway, you clown?" Lol hilarious
SokJuice 1 year ago 4
Hannity sucks, but theres no such thing as "too damn rich."
Floridanon407 1 year ago
The reason Sean Hannity finds the atheist ads absurd is he himself doesn't appeal to reason.
the rich asshole... FOX is to fair/balanced as the Onion is to being credible/serious.
9Ghostly9Fish9 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but that's totally bullshit. The Onion is way more credible as a news organization. Don't compare them to Fox.
Glasya666 1 year ago 3
such hostility on this page... : [/---
thescarf33 1 year ago
I agree, Scarf33.
9Ghostly9Fish9 1 year ago
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Garry Habermas debate with Antony Flew on the issue " did Jesus rise from the dead ?"
a professional debate judge who was asked to evaluate the debate concludes
the historical evidence , though flawed , is strong enough to lead reasonable minds to conclude that Christ did indeed rise from the dead .... Habermas dose end up providing "highly probably evidence" for the historicity of the resurrection " with no plausible naturalistic evidence against it"
valu777 2 years ago
I would never be outraged by signs, but I might laugh at them or deface them.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
Hannity is such an ignorant dick.
frankystein12 2 years ago 62
@frankystein12 And you say that because belief in God is ignorance?
jabe55 1 year ago
@frankystein12 did you look in the mirror lately, or did you get to scared by it?
thebronxisnumber1 5 months ago
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LogicalFlawDetector 2 years ago
Your reply comment doesn't make any sense. But then to an "infidel" like myself who doesn't believe in any religion, let alone an hour of religion, what does? FYI, that was sarcasm up above in case you missed it.
Promisingeve 2 years ago
You are right--I missed the sarcasm but the comment makes sense--is actually incisive, if I do say so myself--to wit that many Americans "believe" in religion in the abstract without having any idea what the particular religion is that they "believe" in.
I have read the Four Gospels several times in Greek and in the mode of Jefferson have no severe objections to the actual dicta of the person identified as Jesus Christ.
Most "Christians"strike me as antithetical to anything found here.
mopsius 2 years ago
Why are people on here arguing about whether God exists? Nobody is going to change their beliefs through a youtube comment! just leave thiests and athiests to themselves. is that just too hard?
el3m3ntsk8s 2 years ago 48
Well, as an Atheist, I like to have the debate. I'd like to know what they are thinking since they've moved into the political square, because I want to know how to fight the people that are oppressing me (I'm gay)... What is their interest? I don't know.
jophus82 2 years ago
@jophus82 jophus82 .Well the fact that you are a carpet munching shirtlifter is enough reason to oppress you never mind that your an athiest.We dont give a damn what you believe in just stop spreading aids and other diseases you damn poofter.
frankbough1955 2 years ago
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jophus82 2 years ago
And you take that dick out of your arse you dirty little pervert.There is NO excuse for that.Poisoning the minds of the children with your homo shirtlifter ideas.
frankbough1955 2 years ago
@frankbough1955 Obviously you are the one who is gay and is in denial about it, Frank! Why don't you just be true to your innate nature and come out of the closet? Is it perhaps that you are scared of the kind of ridicule you yourself dish out? Hmmm. ;-)
leomcallister9 1 year ago
another dam homo.You are !!! I like the way anyone who doesnt like poofs is said to be in denial grow up shirtlifter.!!!
frankbough1955 1 year ago
OOps did i say that.Actually i have gay friends and your welcome to go on bumming as you wish.What i object to is that it is accepted as normal behaviour.Its not .Its perverted.Admit to that and people will leave you funny fellows alone.
frankbough1955 2 years ago
It really bothers you that I'm gay doesn't it? Get the fuck over it. Are you going to talk about the issue or are you going to keep thinking about my cock?
jophus82 2 years ago 2
@el3m3ntsk8s I agree! People take it too serious.
kohltrain13 1 year ago
@el3m3ntsk8s Because many people who are convinced about their belief in God would change the way I live my life if given their druthers. In fact, they see it as part of the personal responsbility to their God to get me to change the way I think. Since they're not content to leave me alone, why should I extend the privilege to them? That said, I have no desire to change their lives. It's just more fun to point out the absurdities of their beliefs.
Haroldbeavis1969 1 year ago
@el3m3ntsk8s Bc its fun and interesting so shut up jerk
MrAmericanPolitics 1 year ago
@el3m3ntsk8s believers need to be told they are wrong, shamed for being ignorant, and taught rational thought
MANJUICEIFY 1 year ago
meh...arguing can sometimes be fun...so why not?
Abgef 1 year ago
@el3m3ntsk8s Fuck that attitude. Speak what you belief! Espically if you an athiest. Answer to your initial dumbass question: So that the people can come to a cumulative logical answer. So Christains with radical beliefs don't run the country. So smart people wake up and learn a little. You should do the same. Thumbs-All the way Fucking-Down!
ProRanting 1 year ago
@el3m3ntsk8s We can try.
retrogamerist 4 months ago
I'm an atheist, but this guy goes off about a three second clip where an obvious troll is being an obvious troll to appease to right wing people who live in Kansas. He needs to get viewers, how does he get viewers? He tells people living where creationism is taught in school that the rest of the country is immoral heathens. Is he wrong to do so? Damn right. Is it a very Christian tactic? Look at the Crusades and the Holocaust and you'll find it's not surprising, but expected.
tianard 2 years ago 2
Also, none of you can prove that God exists, and none of you can prove that he/it does not exist. Being a gnostic atheist is as bad as being an extremist, gnostic theist. Logic supports the concepts of atheism much more readily than theism, but it does not quantify proof.
All any of us can "prove" is that it is highly unlikely that any of us actually know the truth.
wfgpto 2 years ago
Why do people always want to argue religion in comments like this? The video did not seem to me to necessarily support or condemn religion or atheism. Hannity is a crappy, self serving, opinionated commentator, rather than a journalist. That is the point here.
wfgpto 2 years ago
Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the dark yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and reason.
Fait2 2 years ago
I try to be more compassionate about religion due to the fact that many of the people I care about default to how they were raised. However, for just this one moment I'm going to be honest.
It is absurd to believe in religion or god knowing what we know today. In order to believe in any of it you have to consciously ignore all of the incongruities with reality and science. A perfect example is the bible failing to mention the millions upon millions of years the dinosaurs existed.
alx429 2 years ago
Rationality has its uses, but things like, art, for example would not exist in a world dominated by pure reason. I don't believe anybody is purely rational, if you were you would be a very boring person.
My point with the lawns, there is no logical reason we do it apart from to make our lawns look good. Why do we need them to look good? What exactly is so good looking about a mowed lawn? There is no answer to these questions for the simple fact that mowing lawns is irrational.
ogloosh 2 years ago
The story of creation in the bible is a allegory for the loss of innocence, I mean "tree of knowledge", what part of that does not sound symbolic? Just because stupid people take it literally does not mean that god does not exist.
I don't pretend belief in god is rational, it isn't. But neither is life. I am not ignoring anything, I just have a very good gut feeling. Much like you. I find it hard to accept that when I die "I just die" for a number of very good reasons you wouldn't believe.
ogloosh 2 years ago
And here you are getting more specific about the god you claim exists. It isn't just any god. This god has something to do with the Bible.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
I am not religious. I don't care about the bible.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Really? Then why do you make so many references to it?
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Because its relevant.
ogloosh 2 years ago
You are confusing religious law with bible stories. The laws in Deuteronomy were written by people, they are the bronze age equivalent of our legal system.
Like I said, you can disprove the logic of that law, but you cant disprove god, which is a being completely beyond our understanding.
You can call god and asshole, but that does not disprove his existence.
ogloosh 2 years ago 2
God is an asshole, an evil, moronic, egotistical, childish, psychopath, and that certainly proves he doesn't exist. What are you thinking? I'm a mere human, but I'm smarter, kinder and far more morally intelligent than he is, as are you. How can something as massively stupid as the God of the Bible be responsible for a single thing in creation? A God so quick to violence and vengeance and so loving he threatens everyone ever created with torture for all time, he's responsible for our universe?
kalcaron 2 years ago 2
No, that proves he is evil. Evil people exist, I have met them. And what is moral really depends on opinion doesn't it? Plenty of pedophiles think what they are doing is perfectly acceptable.
Let the rage begin.
ogloosh 2 years ago 3
The burden of proof rests on those making the claim. Sorry about that one. Believers have what we can call the God hypothesis. They make a claim that God exists. Ok, now show evidence (a lower bar than proof). "Oh, I have an Iron Age book full of disprovable, immoral nonsense." Atheist conclusion: I must reject your hypothesis.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
And right here is the fault in everything you just typed. God is beyond human science, you can not measure god, you can not speak to god, you can not in any conclusive way measure god on any scientific level. God is not science, god is above science. God is metaphysical, our physics have nothing to do with whether god exists or not.
You can not prove god just like you cant disprove god. The scientific method is useless.
So please, prove to me god does NOT exist?
ogloosh 2 years ago
Believing god is all faith based. That is where atheists come in...to point out that the thing you are having faith in is helping you in no way and the book it leads by is filled with nothing but, lies, hate, and contradictions.
thenjr99 2 years ago
Did you ever read the bible? It has it's positive passages as well as the negative ones. Most people tend to ignore the negative ones, you will notice. But I am not going to debate about things in a 6000 year old book that contradicts itself every new chapter.
Faith is what everybody goes on, including atheists. You people have faith in the idea that after you die nothing happens, even though you don't really know.
ogloosh 2 years ago
"prove to me god does NOT exist?" You cant. But if you start thinking this way, then you have to prove to me that the underwear god or Xenu does not exist. Rational thinking is the way to go, our society is getting better because of it.
tsferg 2 years ago
Yip, it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to prove ANYTHING doesn't exist.
SGriiffiin 2 years ago
Then why are people arguing? You cant prove anything, nobody can. Everybody just says to themselves, "well, I ASSUME this is what is true, so it must be true" and then goes on with their lives.
ogloosh 2 years ago
WRONG. I can prove that no unicorns exist in my soda conclusively right now. It is impossible to disprove a UNIVERSAL negative, but it is not impossible to disprove all negatives. The more specific the claim, the easier it is to disprove. I can conclusively disprove many definitions of god.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
I can also prove that there is not a ten foot wide spider crawling around on my roof..but we are not talking about giant spiders are we?
You can disprove a book, not the idea which inspired the book. That idea being god. So go, disprove a book written by people for people, the idea is still there.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Actually, my reply about the unicorn wasn't to you or about our discussion. It was to someone who claimed that a negative could not be proven. That was the claim. It is false.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
woops.
ogloosh 2 years ago
"That idea being god." Ok, so what does this god do? Does this god do anything? At all?
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
According to deists, no, no he does not
According to most major religions god revealed some sort of profound truth to some people who then gave us bits and pieces. So there you go.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Deists do believe that deity is a creative force, but after the creation was complete has nothing to do with it. Deity may or may not even be aware that the creation happened.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Ok, now about the most major religions. The revealed text religions are those in the Abrahamic line. To believe that, you must believe that god waited silent for most of the 100,000 years (min) that humans have been on this planet. "It" watched 99% of species become extinct. It watched wars, famine, a life expectancy of 20 years, and high rates of infant immortality completely silent and uncaring.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Then about 4000 (but no more than 6000) years ago, god finally decided to intervene and give a revelation in one of the most underdeveloped and illiterate parts of the world, and to wait for it to reach the other parts of the world. That revelation was scientifically and morally flawed, or was recorded with scientific and moral flaws. Severe ones. God thought this was the best way to communicate with humanity. I'm missing the profound truth in any Abrahamic text, btw.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
I've read and studied them all in detail and have yet to find any profound truth. I find homophobia, misogyny, genocide, rape, etc directly from Yahweh (the god character) but no profound truth.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago 2
Plenty of things worth listening to in the bible, ever read the beatitudes? "Blessed are the peacemakers and those who strive for justice"
Damn, that is some sick shit right there.
There is something worth listening to everywhere. Even Somebody like Stalin had his moment of brilliance. For example, "1 death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic".
Well, history has proven that true.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Ancient Israelite's believed the world was a lot newer then it was, mainly because before 6000 years ago there was not any written records or much civilization in general. I don't expect them to think of the earth as being billions of years old, they had no way of knowing that.
Native American society's as well as eastern religions believe in a cycle of death and rebirth, that the world always destroys and rebuilds itself. So there is that.
Also, happiness cant exist without misery.
ogloosh 2 years ago
You are just spouting out logical fallicies left and right. It is boring to debate someone who ignores the little voice in their head that is logic. I hope you come around to the thinking side!
tsferg 2 years ago
What is the thinking side? Your side? I am pretty sure you and me are at the same level, really. Don't get arrogant.
Specify, what exactly have I said that is wrong? Confusing and hard to formulate into words(people have written whole books about this shit), but wrong? No, not unless you can actually prove me wrong.
ogloosh 2 years ago
I do believe I already went over this with a thousand different people....
You are not rational, rationality is boring. Pure rationality is a Vulcan thing, I like emotions.
Assuming something does not exist is as stupid as assuming something does exist, really you don't know and are going on a gut feeling. In other words, you have faith god does not exist.
Nobody thinks rationally. why do people mow there lawns? To make their lawns look good right? Why do they need their lawns to look good?
ogloosh 2 years ago
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tsferg 2 years ago
ogloosh, the scientific method is useless? Then how can us post with your computer. What is useless is all the time and human resources wasted on a non-existent god. Yes, I can prove your god does not exist. Any time you;re ready to prove he does, ir even if you're not, I can prove he does not exist.
That ball is in your court, let's play!
Fait2 2 years ago
Why is it that nobody ever reads the entire comment and only focuses on one sentence? I said the scientific method is useless when talking ab out god, because science can not explain something beyond our plain of existence. You cant measure something unmeasurable.
The problems of the world are caused by greed and arrogance, two things that would exist even if everybody was an atheist.
ogloosh 2 years ago 2
I said MOST of the problems of the world are caused by religion. Why is it you never read the entire comment but only the part that you think you can disprove?
Science can and does explain things beyond the plain of our existence. If you knew anything about science, you would never have made that statement.
Yes, I CAN disprove the Jewish/christian/islamic god and have done so many times. I suspect most religious people know this and that's why so few answer the challenge.
Fait2 2 years ago
So, tell me, has the existence of alternate plains of existence been proven or disproved by anybody? No, its a theory. Give me one example of science having anything to do with alternate universes that is NOT theory.
I know plenty about science, I just don't think it is advanced enough to prove or disprove the existence of god. And it isn't.
No, you can prove books wrong. Not the god that supposedly inspired it.
ogloosh 2 years ago
If you know plenty about science, let me congratulate you on how well you concel it.
Also, when did I, or anyone say that science can disprove the existence of god? I said I can disprove the existence of the Jewish/christian/islamic omnipotent father-figure god. Perhaps you do read the entire comment, you just have a comprehension deficit.
Fait2 2 years ago
"Science can and does explain things beyond the plain of our existence. If you knew anything about science, you would never have made that statement."
Science does not explain ANYTHING beyond our plain of existence and i would like you to give me one example of it doing that.
I did read the whole comment, you can disprove the science in the bible(or any other religious text) all you want, it is not a science textbook. That does not disprove god.
ogloosh 2 years ago
OK, how about the existence of other worlds around distant stars. The presence of the "dark matter" that makes up most of the universe. Then there are black holes,and antimatter to name a few. You really are not improving your credibility or reputation. Wasn't it Mark Twin who said, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."?
Personally, I find this inane and boring beyond tolerance and decline to wste any more time on it.
Fait2 2 years ago
All of those things exist in OUR plain of existence, you will notice. THEORETICALLY one could find a wormhole or something, which THEORETICALLY could lead to another part of OUR universe. And even if it did lead to another universe, it is still THEORETICAL. Dark matter is a gravitational force, also. Its what pushes things away from other things.
So, just admit it. Science currently can not observe in any way a theoretical alternate universe. And yet the theory is still there...
ogloosh 2 years ago
This is ridiculous. There are lots of things that cannot be directly observed but we know they exist or at least most likely exist due to their effects on other things. And twist your final line against you and admit it yourself. No one can currently observe in any way a theoretical god. And yet the idea is still there. That means less than nothing. A lie is a lie even if the whole world believes it. The truth will always be the truth even if no one believes it.
theredblueblurr 2 years ago
Do I need to go through all this philosophical crap again?
The idea of god is something beyond human thought or human science. Attempting to define god in scientific terms is not only futile but stupid.
ogloosh 2 years ago
@Fait2 those are all natural phenomena within our plane of existence. There's no evidence for anything OUTSIDE of the natural realm at all.
Of course this is all irrelevant. God claims are within the scope of empirical investigation as soon as you claim the god has any interaction with the natural world--that interaction must by definition be observable and falsifiable.
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I'm an Atheist and I too would like to know how you can prove non-existence of something.
We are brought into this world not knowing of God. It is something that is taught to us right? Therefor, our non-believe is natural and this group of people are telling us that a God does exist. We don't have to prove it, they do. The burden of proof lies in the hands of the prosecution.
We can't prove that something isn't there, but only something that is - like dozens of transitional species.
jophus82 2 years ago 20
@jophus82 how do you prove non-existance? With a greeting card ffs! ;)
No, you're exactly right.
Iwannabubbletube 2 years ago
What does ffs mean?
jophus82 2 years ago
It's for f*** sakes. But I was being sarcastic obviously ;)
Iwannabubbletube 2 years ago
@jophus82 i mean you can't make a scientific test on it, since the scientific method is used on natural things, not supernatural, which is the same thing with god, allah or santa claus.
however, you can make assumptions and assertions for example, if there's no accountable evidence for something, then it can surely be dismissed.
93alvbjo 1 year ago
@93alvbjo I respect what you are saying, but what is supernatural? If anything exists, it was created in the natural world out of natural things.... It is natural. Things that have not been explained are either misconceptions, delusions, or something natural that hasn't been understood yet.
Can you restate the second half of your comment? I'm not sure what you are saying there. Any theory can be dismissed? I would agree with that. Some facts can be dismissed as well.
jophus82 1 year ago
@jophus82 like you can dissmiss lepricons since there aren't any evidence that supports them. and something that doesn't have any evidence to support it, IS supernatural, im sorry but that's the way it is.
93alvbjo 1 year ago
Most? Really? So religion is responsible for the collapse of the banking industry, human trafficking, imperialism(economic in nature, mind you), malaria, plague, drought, overpopulation, enviromental destruction...I could go on.
Most wars, even the ones supposedly fought over religion, are fought for many reasons. Even Bin Laden's agenda is by and large political.
Religion is not a monolith, everybody has different interpretations of things. Even the most radical nutjob is in the minority.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Again, you seem unable to read an entire comment. I said MOST, not ALL. YOu are too focused on defending the greatest scam aver worked on human beings, why is that?
Fait2 2 years ago
MOST is very simply not true. I;m not defending anything, but oversimplifying the worlds problems is stupid.
ogloosh 2 years ago 2
Most is true. It's only people who refuse to believe plain evidence present in the world today. Most of the wars and conflicts going on at this moment are either based upon religion or using religion as an excuse for their being. Yes, if there were no religion, greed and hate would still exist. But religion and it's "leaders" serve to exacerbate it. Those are FACTS. Ignore them all you want, but they are still facts.
Fait2 2 years ago
Religion did not create greed, greed creates wars. Regardless of whether they encourage it or not it would still be there. Religion is not the cause of any of the worlds problems, peoples own stupidity is. And stupidity and greed are not traits reserved solely for the religious.
Wars are fought over power and resources, religion is just one reason among many.
You are oversimplifying the worlds problems.
ogloosh 2 years ago
"God is beyond human science, you can not measure god, you can not speak to god, you can not in any conclusive way measure god on any scientific level." Yet you are so absolutely certain a god exists. Based upon what?
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Certain? No, just assuming. Like I said, I don't pretend its rational. But lots of things we do are not rational, but we do them anyway. Why? Because it makes life better.
Also, gut feelings about life after death and personal reasons I wont type because you wont believe anyway.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Ok, so you aren't absolutely certain. So let me ask you, what would it take to convince you that you are wrong? (I'm fully willing to reciprocate.)
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Kill me, let me be dead for an hour or so, then bring me back to life.
That could work.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Assuming? That's means accepting something for which you have no evidence. No, it's not rational, nor even intelligent. I doubt anyone expected better, though.
Fait2 2 years ago
You are assuming you are right, I mean, logically you don't know what happens after you die. Like I already typed, and educated guess is still a guess. Me and you are on the same level.
ogloosh 2 years ago
Because you mentioned educated, allow me to point out that it's "As I already typed," and ""You and I" instead of "Me and you".
Fait2 2 years ago
I am not a linguist nor do I claim to be.
ogloosh 2 years ago
You are the one making the claim that something exists, not I. I need not prove or evidence anything. Substantiating your claim that god exists is your problem. I'm glad it is your problem and not mine. You don't believe a five assed purple flying platypus lives on Mars, do you? Yet, you are not being unreasonable to disbelieve such a claim, and the person who needs to prove the claim is the one saying the purple platypus exists. Same thing with your all powerful space daddy.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
For a long time, people thought giant squids were a myth. So, for all we know, somwhere out there in the universe there is a five assed purple flying platypus. And scientists are still debating the possibility of life on mars, so who knows.
This whole debate is a stalemate because when it comes down to it, both of us are just doing the same thing. Assuming. An educated guess is still a guess.
ogloosh 2 years ago
hannity is the biggest moron on television after Canadian Micheal Coran.
adlerbr12 2 years ago
You're all talking shit.
Lmaox94 2 years ago
It is quite obvious Deadly Chinchilla has never read Immanuel Kant.
mopsius 2 years ago
"Illusions are only 'perceived as real' because humans are experts at folling other humans based on measurable human qualities."
Deadly Chinchilla.
A marvelously doltish and incomplete statement.
mopsius 2 years ago
Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!
mopsius 2 years ago
And yet, after quoting it in two diffferent comments, you've still yet to explain HOW it is "doltish."
As I said before, do so, or don't expect a response. My comment, when NOT quote mined, is perfectly in line with my point.
DeadlyChinchilla 2 years ago
You guys rock! Hannity does not!
friedfotos 2 years ago
CNN 15 yr old White Girl Gang Raped after High School Dance by Mexicans while Blacks take Pictures
/watch?v=6sulHFLHrDs
BabyJustWin 2 years ago
Obama so far is Bambi in the headlights.
Bambi better get his shit together quick.
mopsius 2 years ago
"Can you imagine the outrage if a Christian group put pro-god ads in New York city subways?"
They do it all the time Hannity. All we ask is that you don't promote your montheistic religion with our tax money (payed by people of many religions, non religions and so on).
NerdsUnited47 2 years ago
Not only that Bush used faith-based intiatoves to finance his machine.
And the "Supreme Court" ruled them "constitutional".
mopsius 2 years ago
I thought repubs were all for freedom of public displays and free speech an...oh who the hell am I kidding, they don't have a structure of beliefs anymore, they just make up this shit as they go along.
Hannity is so eager to be a hypocrite and then looks so smug on the camera even when he's lying to himself. I'm getting nauseous.
ExtremeAvalanche 2 years ago
Yup, there's a lot of us who can live WITHOUT an "all powerful" imaginary friend.
Swordsquire 2 years ago 2
this annoys me so much because not only is it a national right for these signs to be put up but to complain about our 'propoganda' even after centuries of religeous posters and awareness leaflets telling people the end is nigh and we're gunna burn hgynhgnhgb arrrg damn fox news pisses me off
superchang847 2 years ago
The signs are now upgraded with walking and talking ones, they're called evangelicals
Somai82 2 years ago 4
i wonder if Hannity can feel guilt.....
angel198634 2 years ago
According to the people at my church, Atheists are NOT intitled to the constitutional guarantees. This is one the reasons I haven't been back in a while.
txvoltaire 2 years ago 2
$hawn Handnutty
jereuter01 2 years ago 2
I want to see some hot sexy pirate females preaching the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, christians and theists do it all the time, so come on up pastafarians - now is your time to shine.
NerdsUnited47 2 years ago
Republicans don't care about facts. When are you guys gonna see that
jopaddy81 2 years ago