Atheists say "why God created such a vast space & restrict us to a tiny planet "
Reply ;
To show people as advanced in scientific knowledge as you,how tiny and insignificant you are in whole of his Creation and should feel his rightful supremacy on you.
Go win the space He has made subservient to you through your intelligence but remember that you cannot defeat God.
So be Thankful and recognise his ownership upon you.
Atheists have nothing to prove. Since there's absolutely no evidence that any god(s) exist, there's no rational reason to believe that any god(s) do exist. It doesn't take faith to believe that leprechauns, invisible garden faeries, the monster under the bed don't exist. The same is true of god(s). Theists have had thousands of years to prove a god or gods exist, yet no one ever has. Atheists reject baseless claims that god(s) exist(s). Evidence that a god or gods exist(s) ends atheism.
Evidence leads to the fact that most of we humans have been given the body that is favourable for our living and most of us lead a healthy life while those who are not normal are patient with their circumstances, those who are normal lose their faith watching others suffer.
Each soul has his own relation with God so we must be thankful to God that inspite of so many unfavourable possible outcomes, we happened to be born and living a healthy life.
@peace4universe As I said: "Evidence that a god or gods exist(s) ends atheism." I still haven't seen any.
You seem to imply that losing faith, i.e. belief without evidence and/or despite evidence to the contrary, is a bad thing. It isn't. Faith is irrational.
@peace4universe There is no answer to this question, from me. I don't believe in any God whatsoever, and to me, thinking that you know God is truly ignorant. You continue believing in something that there is no evidence of. I believe that, even if there were a God, it's workings would be at such a magnitude above our understanding of this world, we couldn't even comprehend it. It's in this sense that I find theists truly ignorant.
@peace4universe That isn't my criteria, because I have none. I'm saying that this is what I believe if there were a God. Atheists don't walk around saying we know everything, that we know the world "works like "x" and behaves like "y". We'd be the first to admit the world isn't known, however, theists firmly believe in their story of choice.
No, it proves nothing more than the truth that our understanding of this world is growing by leaps and bounds. Uncertainty doesn't prove God by any means.
@peace4universe 1. i understand the argument perfectly 2. I did not call him an idiot , I eluded to the fact he may be an idiot. 3. you heap praise on an illiterate, bronze age paedophile war lord 4. you are an idiot 5. I did call you an idiot .... PEACE
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.
@peace4universe no, 1: I have no faith 2: your prophet married a 9 year old, no matter how you twist it, I find that disgusting 3: evidence, if you have any good arguments or evidence, I would advise you to use them, so far you have presented none
@peace4universe this changes nothing, I am well aware about how early someone can give birth in some situations, it makes no difference. There is NO WAY, that the critical thinking skills have finished developing at that age, and know what consequences your actions have, especially who you should spend the rest of your life with. And one of these videos stated that she got married at age 7. Do you think this is ethical?
You need to have the knowledge of backgroud custom and necessity of the time.
Early reproduction was a necessity for human survival, the estimated life span being 28-30 with eight children required to be delivered by each fertile wife just to MAINTAIN the population.
@peace4universe that was in the medieval ages, there is a reason we changed our minds. And by this reply, I assume your answer to my previous question is yes, and what you say to me from this point on will be coloured by this fact, with the survivability as it is today, your point is completely mute, and stand as a representation of a civilization unable to change to the better
@Multimorten What westerners take as marriage at seven or six used to be marriage contract with girl remaining with parents until puberty.
Girls were traditionally considered lucky if they were married/engaged earlier as asking for the hand of a girl was considered as honouring the girl and her parents.
the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, that means if I told you I had an invisible unicorn in my backyard, it is up to me, to prove it. And the burden of proof is on the one claiming there is a god
Human body is an empirical evidence of existence of God.
The fact that every need of human body is fulfilled through pleasure is a sign for God for those who reflect.
And those who want to deny God's existence, no evidence is enough !
Make a God hypothesis and try to explain world phenomena through it, if every happening in the world is explained through God hypothesis, then accept it as theory and then on as FACT.
Isn't that a scientific way of recognising God's existence?
@peace4universe no, how do you get from, dog therefore god? Its not a sin to say "I dont know". There is no evidence for the existence of a god, otherwise they wouldn't call it faith, the scientific method is the single best method by far, to determine whether something is true. And no, nothing put through the scientific method points to the need of a god, the argument that everything the body needs gives pleasure in the form of dopamine, have no impact on the argument for god at all.
Dopamine is the hypothetical mediator of our pleasure but even its creation is directed by God.
The effects of every chemical on our body is mediated through receptors which can alter their activity and can themselves be controlled through other chemicals.
This only signifies that God produced these mechanism for pain or reward, which can be manipulated with knowledge
@peace4universe nor does it point to a god, if there is a correlation please do point it out, and please be specific on how you get to god, so far your argument have been, I cant explain it, so it must be god. That is not a valid argument
@peace4universe I don't know what evidence I would need to accept a god, but that wouldn't be a problem for an all powerful god. But definitely in a physical way. However, even if we had evidence for a creator, we would need to establish which religion is the right one, and then, he/her/it would have to explain all the atrocities he/her/it have committed before I will even consider giving him/her/it a thumbs up
@peace4universe as I said, I don't know what it would be, but it would have to be physical. And god have committed countless atrocities. The Torah and the bible tells a very grim tale. I would like to ask you if you think killing every living thing on the planet is a good thing, I don't know much about the Qur'an, but I don't intend to read it, as the content of a religion have no bearing whether the claim about the existence of a god is true
@peace4universe you only answered 1 of my questions, which the bible disagrees with. But you haven't established how you get to god, and which god at that
Islam is the default position for every creatures and every inanimate objects in this world as, you will admit , that they all subject themselves to NATURAL laws.What is natural law??
It is the laws of God.
So the one who submits to God's law is defined as Muslim.
And nature is Muslims.
But humans have free will which they exert to delude themselves away from God and to delude others, as you are trying to delude me.
When you are saying that rocks and babies are Atheists, you are not indoctrinating people to Atheism but when I said that every living and non-living thing obeys God's law and we know it scientifically that this universe follows strict laws, then now you are calling me that I am indoctrinating !
It is just a discussion to make you understand what we believe.
Every creature and every inanimate object is a creation of Allah and sings his praises that God taught them while we cannot understand their word of praises .
So Islam is a default position if there is no free will.
Islam is rejected by conscious effort by those who get braiswashed by Atheistic propaganda
And what is the religious claim that Atheists do not accept?
And what are the reasons of that non-acceptance ?
What proof you have that rocks and babies are atheist?
Submission to God is a default position and Atheism is a condition when one resists the innate inclination of one's soul to worship God.
Have you read how many forgeries have been done to prove that man is not a creation but popped up by chance and chance after many years from nothing !
i can't prove there is NO God(s) but there is a lot and i mean A LOT of evidence to say most religions are wrong and you can't call Atheism a religion because there are many religions that don't have God(s)
if you ask any atheist if there was proof of a god what would they do
they would join the religion that that God(s) is from
There was only one religion that God, your creator asked mankind to follow and it was Islam.
God who created you , gave you free will and created an environment for you to live in with comfort, wants you to take his permission when you use everything that he created and he has the right to dictate what should be used in what way and how you should behave on his earth.
We are like Tenant on this earth and God is the owner.
While Atheists can't prove a negative that God doesn't exist, they cheaply hold their claim with no proof, with no leg to stand, with no basis, with no position that, "God indeed doesn't exist". This video seeks atheism's standard point-- why they hold on to atheism? And revealed that while atheists have no answer and proof in justification for their atheistic belief-- they in turn are on something they don't want to talk about: FAITH.
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Multimorten 5 months ago
Atheists say "why God created such a vast space & restrict us to a tiny planet "
Reply ;
To show people as advanced in scientific knowledge as you,how tiny and insignificant you are in whole of his Creation and should feel his rightful supremacy on you.
Go win the space He has made subservient to you through your intelligence but remember that you cannot defeat God.
So be Thankful and recognise his ownership upon you.
peace4universe 5 months ago
Computer is evidence for the intellect that is needed to create a thing of that type.
Yet humans are much more efficient than computers and we start imagining that no intellect has created them !
Isn't it blindness??
Pain receptors are an evidence that God exists as pain does serve a role for humans .
People who lose sensation suffer whether it be anosmia leading to maggots harboring in nose or Leprosy causing inadvertent injury to the body !
peace4universe 5 months ago
Atheists have nothing to prove. Since there's absolutely no evidence that any god(s) exist, there's no rational reason to believe that any god(s) do exist. It doesn't take faith to believe that leprechauns, invisible garden faeries, the monster under the bed don't exist. The same is true of god(s). Theists have had thousands of years to prove a god or gods exist, yet no one ever has. Atheists reject baseless claims that god(s) exist(s). Evidence that a god or gods exist(s) ends atheism.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
@YY4Me133
Evidence leads to the fact that most of we humans have been given the body that is favourable for our living and most of us lead a healthy life while those who are not normal are patient with their circumstances, those who are normal lose their faith watching others suffer.
Each soul has his own relation with God so we must be thankful to God that inspite of so many unfavourable possible outcomes, we happened to be born and living a healthy life.
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe As I said: "Evidence that a god or gods exist(s) ends atheism." I still haven't seen any.
You seem to imply that losing faith, i.e. belief without evidence and/or despite evidence to the contrary, is a bad thing. It isn't. Faith is irrational.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
The sad part is, the burden of proof is on the believer, not the unbeliever. There hasn't been, ever, any proof that God exists.
PhRiZoN 6 months ago 2
@PhRiZoN
What are the criteria on which you will accept the existence of God ?
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe There is no answer to this question, from me. I don't believe in any God whatsoever, and to me, thinking that you know God is truly ignorant. You continue believing in something that there is no evidence of. I believe that, even if there were a God, it's workings would be at such a magnitude above our understanding of this world, we couldn't even comprehend it. It's in this sense that I find theists truly ignorant.
PhRiZoN 5 months ago
@PhRiZoN
"" if there were a God, it's workings would be at such a magnitude above our understanding of this world, we couldn't even comprehend it.""
If this is your criterion to accept God's existence then study any subject and see that at every point there is a statement "We do not know"
We are not sure ""etcetc"
The more we get the knowledge about this universe or the working of living beings we need to say that there is still a lot to explore.
So that proves that God exists
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe That isn't my criteria, because I have none. I'm saying that this is what I believe if there were a God. Atheists don't walk around saying we know everything, that we know the world "works like "x" and behaves like "y". We'd be the first to admit the world isn't known, however, theists firmly believe in their story of choice.
No, it proves nothing more than the truth that our understanding of this world is growing by leaps and bounds. Uncertainty doesn't prove God by any means.
PhRiZoN 5 months ago
it is possible that this guy is an idiot
ZIZEKSKY 6 months ago
@ZIZEKSKY
If you do not understand the argument, why call the speaker an idiot ?
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe 1. i understand the argument perfectly 2. I did not call him an idiot , I eluded to the fact he may be an idiot. 3. you heap praise on an illiterate, bronze age paedophile war lord 4. you are an idiot 5. I did call you an idiot .... PEACE
ZIZEKSKY 5 months ago
@ZIZEKSKY
Among all religious leaders no one was more maligned than the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
One need to give consideration why will we Muslims praise him so much??
Review the heaps of praises of Prophet Muhammad PBUH by Non-Muslims such as Michael H Hart in his book "The 100 most influencial people in history"
/watch?v=B3gTtw23mS8
peace4universe 5 months ago
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.
The first person on Hart's list is Muhammad.
peace4universe 5 months ago
@ZIZEKSKY I like your thinking :D
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
You can send him a PM if you want to call him at this channel to defend you :P
You do not know the Qur'an , yet you like ZIZEKSKY's maligning of my Prophet, this shows that you are blinded by your faith in Atheism
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe no, 1: I have no faith 2: your prophet married a 9 year old, no matter how you twist it, I find that disgusting 3: evidence, if you have any good arguments or evidence, I would advise you to use them, so far you have presented none
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
/watch?v=nMYLI2o1kwc
This is one argument about the defense of the Prophet.
Till last centuries , the age of consent in history was puberty or at the most seven.
Google the age of consent in history although currently we cannot imagine that a 9 years old can be a fully grown woman once she attains puberty.
I will be giving other evidences too.
peace4universe 5 months ago
@Multimorten
/watch?v=X6SlXID9v7k
Visit the websites referred in both these videos
Thank you
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe this changes nothing, I am well aware about how early someone can give birth in some situations, it makes no difference. There is NO WAY, that the critical thinking skills have finished developing at that age, and know what consequences your actions have, especially who you should spend the rest of your life with. And one of these videos stated that she got married at age 7. Do you think this is ethical?
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
You need to have the knowledge of backgroud custom and necessity of the time.
Early reproduction was a necessity for human survival, the estimated life span being 28-30 with eight children required to be delivered by each fertile wife just to MAINTAIN the population.
So puberty meant for starting reproductions .
Watch the video I referred
Islam requires three criteria for marriage:
Physical maturity
Psychological maturity and
Social circumstances .
/watch?v=X6SlXID9v7k
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe that was in the medieval ages, there is a reason we changed our minds. And by this reply, I assume your answer to my previous question is yes, and what you say to me from this point on will be coloured by this fact, with the survivability as it is today, your point is completely mute, and stand as a representation of a civilization unable to change to the better
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten What westerners take as marriage at seven or six used to be marriage contract with girl remaining with parents until puberty.
Girls were traditionally considered lucky if they were married/engaged earlier as asking for the hand of a girl was considered as honouring the girl and her parents.
peace4universe 5 months ago
Great video, thanks for posting it.
BT3701 6 months ago
the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, that means if I told you I had an invisible unicorn in my backyard, it is up to me, to prove it. And the burden of proof is on the one claiming there is a god
Multimorten 7 months ago 2
Human body is an empirical evidence of existence of God.
The fact that every need of human body is fulfilled through pleasure is a sign for God for those who reflect.
And those who want to deny God's existence, no evidence is enough !
Make a God hypothesis and try to explain world phenomena through it, if every happening in the world is explained through God hypothesis, then accept it as theory and then on as FACT.
Isn't that a scientific way of recognising God's existence?
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe no, how do you get from, dog therefore god? Its not a sin to say "I dont know". There is no evidence for the existence of a god, otherwise they wouldn't call it faith, the scientific method is the single best method by far, to determine whether something is true. And no, nothing put through the scientific method points to the need of a god, the argument that everything the body needs gives pleasure in the form of dopamine, have no impact on the argument for god at all.
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
Dopamine is the hypothetical mediator of our pleasure but even its creation is directed by God.
The effects of every chemical on our body is mediated through receptors which can alter their activity and can themselves be controlled through other chemicals.
This only signifies that God produced these mechanism for pain or reward, which can be manipulated with knowledge
It does not negate God .
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe nor does it point to a god, if there is a correlation please do point it out, and please be specific on how you get to god, so far your argument have been, I cant explain it, so it must be god. That is not a valid argument
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
What kind of evidence you want to accept existence of God.
Think and say.
If there is a Creator, what should be his relation to us .
How should he manage the affairs of the world
How should he contact humans ?
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe I don't know what evidence I would need to accept a god, but that wouldn't be a problem for an all powerful god. But definitely in a physical way. However, even if we had evidence for a creator, we would need to establish which religion is the right one, and then, he/her/it would have to explain all the atrocities he/her/it have committed before I will even consider giving him/her/it a thumbs up
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
If you do not know what evidence you will accept then we cannot come to any agreement.
God does not commit atrocities to anyone.
It is those humans who have lost their way commit atrocities against other humans.
He does not need your Thumbs up as even if all humasn become completely obedient to him, they cannot increase his kingdom and vice versa .
He is independant of anyone.
Qur'an 39:7
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe as I said, I don't know what it would be, but it would have to be physical. And god have committed countless atrocities. The Torah and the bible tells a very grim tale. I would like to ask you if you think killing every living thing on the planet is a good thing, I don't know much about the Qur'an, but I don't intend to read it, as the content of a religion have no bearing whether the claim about the existence of a god is true
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
God has created everything for an end except the life hereafter which will be endless.
If we all are supposed to die one day , what is the harm if we all die at the same time or one after another?
I do not call it an atrocity.
To spread mischief on earth so that those who are living become like dead or live with pain is atrocity.
Killing of someone unjustly by men is atrocity because we cannot revive life.
To make humans die of natural calamity cannot be called as atrocity by God
peace4universe 5 months ago
@peace4universe you only answered 1 of my questions, which the bible disagrees with. But you haven't established how you get to god, and which god at that
Multimorten 5 months ago
@Multimorten
God is ONE who created you and me and all of this universe by definition there is none beyond him and besides him.
God is Transcendent with no imaginable size and shape and is beyond Time and Space.
Scriptures define God perfectly at places but being not fully preserved many got misconceptions too.
Qur'an is the last Well preserved word of God which defines God clearly at 2:255.
Please refer to it.
peace4universe 5 months ago
i don't believe dragons exist on faith...yeah
Desert713 8 months ago
@squareatheist
"Please go away"
Whose channel is this??
lols
smajmal62 8 months ago
@squareatheist
That's your failure to produce your proof.
smajmal62 8 months ago
@squareatheist
What evidence you have for Atheism??
Has science proven that there is no God??
smajmal62 8 months ago
@squareatheist
Islam is the default position for every creatures and every inanimate objects in this world as, you will admit , that they all subject themselves to NATURAL laws.What is natural law??
It is the laws of God.
So the one who submits to God's law is defined as Muslim.
And nature is Muslims.
But humans have free will which they exert to delude themselves away from God and to delude others, as you are trying to delude me.
peace4universe 8 months ago
@squareatheist
When you are saying that rocks and babies are Atheists, you are not indoctrinating people to Atheism but when I said that every living and non-living thing obeys God's law and we know it scientifically that this universe follows strict laws, then now you are calling me that I am indoctrinating !
peace4universe 8 months ago
@squareatheist
I am not talking to you to win or lose.
It is just a discussion to make you understand what we believe.
Every creature and every inanimate object is a creation of Allah and sings his praises that God taught them while we cannot understand their word of praises .
So Islam is a default position if there is no free will.
Islam is rejected by conscious effort by those who get braiswashed by Atheistic propaganda
peace4universe 8 months ago
W.SALAM
SATAN HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT...SATAN SAID TO ALLAH SWT THAT HE WILL TAKE MANKIND TO HELLFIRE...
I THANK ALLAH SWT SO MUCH IM MUSLIM...
ooJesusIsMuslimoo 8 months ago
@squareatheist
And what is the religious claim that Atheists do not accept?
And what are the reasons of that non-acceptance ?
What proof you have that rocks and babies are atheist?
Submission to God is a default position and Atheism is a condition when one resists the innate inclination of one's soul to worship God.
Have you read how many forgeries have been done to prove that man is not a creation but popped up by chance and chance after many years from nothing !
peace4universe 8 months ago
I like the part where it says "Ratings have been disabled for this video"
q41n 8 months ago
@q41n
Thanks for liking something of the video
peace4universe 8 months ago
i can't prove there is NO God(s) but there is a lot and i mean A LOT of evidence to say most religions are wrong and you can't call Atheism a religion because there are many religions that don't have God(s)
if you ask any atheist if there was proof of a god what would they do
they would join the religion that that God(s) is from
q41n 8 months ago
@q41n
There was only one religion that God, your creator asked mankind to follow and it was Islam.
God who created you , gave you free will and created an environment for you to live in with comfort, wants you to take his permission when you use everything that he created and he has the right to dictate what should be used in what way and how you should behave on his earth.
We are like Tenant on this earth and God is the owner.
peace4universe 8 months ago
@Kwinnky
He will reply those issue, may be that's why he mirrored it !
smajmal62 8 months ago
@squareatheist
While Atheists can't prove a negative that God doesn't exist, they cheaply hold their claim with no proof, with no leg to stand, with no basis, with no position that, "God indeed doesn't exist". This video seeks atheism's standard point-- why they hold on to atheism? And revealed that while atheists have no answer and proof in justification for their atheistic belief-- they in turn are on something they don't want to talk about: FAITH.
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smajmal62 8 months ago