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  • MOVE ON PEOPLE, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SMITH NOW :D

  • @Timelord6661 yuk, i hate him :P

  • @AthinaSails Well go away NON DOCTOR WHO FAN....

  • @Timelord6661 I like doctor who, just not the new series

  • @AthinaSails No you don't, you're a Tennant fan, NOT a Doctor Who fan, I guarantee you that if David Tennant was never the Doctor (I wish that was true), you wouldn't have touched the series, you're not a Doctor Who fan if you hate the new series because there is absolutely NO fair reason too.

  • ok, was anybody else upset that in this episode they didn't do a happy new year kiss?

  • @housefan95 yeah but he is wearing the suit and everything!! its a great scene but unless poor Rose suffered from memory trauma before series 1 then this does not work canon wise "/

  • U were right!

  • I wish the show ended with a scene like the one at :50.

    Too cute and happy. :D

  • I haven't got a clue how they're going to link this scene with the episode tonight, and with the Sarah Jane scenes too.

    I'm gonna miss David so much :(

  • @cheekymonkey3np Its before DT regenerates, He goes back to see the people he cares about most in his 10th form or whatever... Sad really...

  • to me:

    Rose = Fail.

  • Could be a quick nostalgia tour before he goes and does whatever needs to be done, he ends up on Sarah Jane's street as well. Though with the Ood there in the snow I'm not sure, are they allowing him to do this or are they calling him back because he's procrastinating again. Still...just two more days.

  • Is it definately his last scenes that she appears in?

    That would be a good send off

  • Don't know about last scene because in some of the trailers he's looking pretty beaten up, torn clothes and cuts and bruises to his face.

  • Yeah, I noticed that, maybe its the first scene or a dream?

  • It doesn't make any sense at all that this Rose can be from 2005. When Dr nr 9 meets Rose in Series 1 and takes her away it is in 2004. We know this because a later episode in the first series (the first of the Slitheen doubles) says Rose was missing for a year and that it is now 2005. That means that Rose met the Doctor in 2004. David Tennant's first episode was Xmas of 2005 so if the Rose from the clips of this vid is from xmas of 2005, she would recognise DT's Doctor which she clearly doesn't

  • Thats a good point maybe the writers just forgot? I suppose there was a missing year when Rose was with Nine and another weird year with The Master so who knows what year it is in Who land? Fingers crossed, its series one Rose :)

  • i was thinking that but maybe they started it as being set in 2005 and then wrote in the fact that they had missed a year yet still kept it the same for cronalogical purposes, like keeping the episodes matching with the time the viewer is watching it, kinda like the simpsons, the show's been going for over 20 yrs yet the kids are still the same age lol

  • Its December :D

  • @Rosetylermad111

    Come on, come on, come on!!!! I don't want Tennat to be gone, I don't want the 10/Rose thing to end, but if hey are gonna rip my heart out then get ON with it!

  • she's back??!! Wow! wonderful \o/

  • i told you she's back, well, i knew cause of a spiolers vid i watched.

  • Yay! I'll be pleased to see Rose again (although I hope she's in it for more than a few seconds).

    Does anyone know what music is used in this video by the way?

  • Same here! I'm really glad shes in his last story even if its just for a few minutes :)

    And the music is This is Gallifrey, Our Home, Our Childhood by Murray Gold ;)

  • Im glad thats its OUR Rose from 2005 thats in this episode :)

  • "This is Gallifrey: Our Childhood, Our home"

    It is from the Series 3 Soundtrack. Initially played, in variation, to introduce the Yana/Master character in the episode "Utopia"

  • he goes back to a couple of months before rose met the original doctor. and he says to her "this year is going to be a good one for you"

  • OMG JUST REALISED, 45 seconds in, the ood has red eyes! Dont this mean its a bad ood!?

  • Hmm, i was watching confidential after waters of mars and they where talking about once he made the whole speech of "The laws of time will obey me!" he can go back and do whatever he wants. Maybe he wanted to change something.. ? I dont know, i guess we will have to wait for Christmas!!

  • wonder if rose will meet the 11th doctor after ten regeration

  • no billie married lewis star laurence fox that's probably why she's wearing a ring

  • No!!! ROFL - Can't she get sucked into the untempered schism PLEASE! (All joking aside it is a good book end for RTDs tenure)

  • good

  • 0:45

    Maybe the ood somehow induce the regeneration... or maybe the Doctor's just got himself a personal trainer.

    RIP Tenth Doctor!

    (Long live Duplicate Doctor!)

  • What if David Tennant (not Eccelston) goes back before they ever met.............. :( To see her one last time..... :( Makes me sad just thinking about it...

    I say one last time cause three (four if you count the ood) have told him he's going to die.... (wait three counting the ood..... i think)

    Basically I think he knows he's going to die.

  • rose

  • 2 theories:

    .The doctor could have been wearing the tardis key which messes up her vision of him (you know, like in the sound of drums)

    .Its a nightmare, or dream, the doctor is having, like russel said, before he regenerates..

    ...Then again, they could both be wrong.

  • At 0.41 shes wearing a wedding ring. I don't know if this is billies or rose got married x

  • HURRY UP DECEMBER!

    AAGH!

  • well there is a photo of the doctor leaning in pain against the wall right? that would be the powell estate too? - i have also been thinking -i reckon the cause of his regeneration happens in the waters of mars

  • and dont forget that if its New Years Eve she'll probably have been celebrating with a few drinks ;)

  • i agree , that was my initial answer as well - i told a friend that and they said its unlikely she can forget someone dying in front of you a year ago

  • but how - why dosent rose recognise him in the christmas invasion then?

  • Thats kind of up to RTD to sort out, he might somehow sort it or he might just leave it. She isnt really likely to remember a random guy she met a year ago anyway is she? I cant remember half the people I saw last year :)

  • are we sure that its rose from season 1?? it could be rose in the alternate universe and she just grew her hair longer...? the reason i think this is because some of those pictures look like rose and jackie are on a beach -bad wolf bay again?

    just my thoughts. it would make sense that its rose from season 1 as well.

  • Oh god, i can guess what this storyline is gonna be, and i'm already crying!!! But thanks for warning me so i don't have an emotional breakdown when the episode is actually on...

  • confliction of timelines there

  • MMM... Rely Intresting

  • I do think Matt Smith will be good even brilliant (hopefully he will be) but I dont think he will ever match to David Tennant

    He is everyones fave! Even the generation that used to watch old Who's

  • At first,I read this and was like NO I want it to be real Rose but I thought about it and I WANT IT TO BE OLD ROSE SO THAT HE CAN SAY GOODBYE PROPERLY AND KISS HER.

    I NEED him to say he loves her,I was SO dissapointed that he didn't say it and HE (real) didn't say he loved her on Journey's End so if they dissapoint me again, I will actually cry.

    I think it'll be kind of cute if he says that to her and they kiss and THEN he regenerates after. I think that'll really show their relationship.

  • ALSO, I don't care if Matt Smith as the Doctor falls in love with someone else, I just want the 10th Doctor (and 9th) to love Rose, I don't care if other Doctor's don't because it isn't the same. :)

  • I think we would all like for him to say I love you (and we hear it this time hehe) and have a kiss, but I dont think its very likely, even if RTD is a big Doctor/Rose shipper :)

    I agree completely with your comment about Matt Smith, I know he is supposed to be the same man, but he can go ahead, as long as Ten always lvoes Rose (is that sad?) ah well :)

  • time lords dont have the ability to love

  • And you would know that considering your a Time Lord yourself?

    God, have you even SEEN the show?

  • yes havent u seen the show? ecspecially from the older shows its well known they cant love, and from recent shows, such as the family of blood episode where the doctor never thinks of his human form falling in love coz he doesnt have that ability. ye might think he can fall in love coz he has a close relationship with his companions but he just likes them alot, but he can never love them

  • Yeah, the OLDER shows but this is the newer shows. I don't even care if he doesn't have the 'ability' to love because it looks the way to me! Even David Tennant said that the Doctor's and Rose's relationship was a 'love story', and even if your right and I'm wrong and he only 'likes her alot', is there anything wrong with me wanting to believe that he loves her? If it's make me happy then what's so bad about that?

    (Sorry if I sound rude by the way!)

  • ok i can see ur really passionate about this "story"

  • Time lords can love lol, not sure where you heard they can not. I used to watch the old show all the time. Time lords tend not to fall in love with humans due to their short (the humans) life span. He never felt anything for his other companions mainly because he viewed them as one a sister, or two just a friend. If you have proof they can not love please state the episode of the old shows so i can look it up on my collections

  • i cant remember from the older shows, but there are many examples from these newer ones, such as in family of blood where it never occured to him that his human form cud fall in love and other stuff with rose and martha im sure ur aware of

  • okay, i liked wen she came back in the fourth seaosn, but now coming back again? how many times will the doctor have to say you cant get through to this world again.....and also it ruins the emotional and dramatic ending of Doomsday if you ask me....but still...WOOT DR WHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • like the video says its not actually Rose from the parralel world, its a younger Rose before she ever even met a man called The Doctor.

    If it was the Rose from series four, no doubt the human doctor would be with her too but its a pre-series one Rose :)

  • ur conclusion just coz she has long hair?

  • No thats just one of the reasons.

    Also some people who were watching the two film the scene say they heard the dialogue and it was a past version of Rose.

  • im never gonna sleep til i see this episode!!!!! im gonna cry so hard on that one!

  • Im soooooo glad that Rose is back.. but the thing is that if its 2005 Rose before she met the Dr does it mean that things can change and that she comes back into it later on ?? Also have read somewhere that the Dr does say to her that he loves her and kisses her.. but thats only a rumour though

  • Things can change I think, but because Moffet pretty much loathes Rose Tyler, I doubt she will ever be back :(

    I have heard that, it would be a-mazing! But it would be strange, "Sorry, I know you dont know me but can I just kiss you?" XD

  • I guess it depends on how the story goes so we could still see that kiss that we have all been waiting for... I was hoping that Rose could be the new Dr having a female Dr Who i think would be great.. and in some ways it can be done as she did take in that stuff from the TARDIS !!!

    But I guess that just wishful thinking there.. lol

  • There is Still Jenny that may fill in the shows as a female "doctor" or susan foreman whom we don't know what happened. Be nice to know whether or not she regenerated...

  • I could imagine him just going off on a huge rant, most probably including the world banana and paradax and just as Rose stares at him as though he's pretty insane, he's just like 'To hell him it' and kisses her. XD

  • That would be funny!

    Of course it would have to include bananas! All his conversations do! XD

  • Apparently, he starts saying all these quotes he's heard/said as the 10th incarnation, like "I'm not your mother!" "We must feed." "I made my choice a long time ago and I'm never gonna leave you." e.t.c.

  • Oh, that sounds interesting. Maybe, with the Ood being there & that. That'd sure freak you out, walking past someone saying all that, lol.

  • maybe the Doctor travels to the time before Rose meets him? And they meet before they meet each other?

  • Yeah I think he does, when he is dying he probably just wants to see her one last time, and he cant see the present her can he? I feel really sorry for him!

  • Yep, that's EXACTLY what happens. He travels back to New Years Eve, 2005 to say goodbye to her, despite the fact that she has yet to meet him. Of course, he has to wipe her mind of the events. :/

  • That's very sad. I believe Rose is the only companion he loves (among Rose, Martha and Donna). I really want him to stay.

  • True. He loves Rose romantically, just as he loved Lady Christina De Souza, Sarah Jane Smith and Romana. However, he loves Donna and Martha as friends.

  • Speaking of Lady Christina, i'd like to see her be with the Doctor again. They just make an adorable couple.

  • They most certainly do. I agree entirely with you there. They are the perfect soul mates and rival each other in personality, attractiveness, wit and intelligence. :)

  • He hardly loved Lady Christina & Sarah Jane romantically. He just shared an adventure with Christina & Sarah spoke of how she loved him but it wasn't returned from him. I'm not sure with Romana, it was sexual tension as it was with Rose. But, I think Rose was the central companion he fell in love him.

  • With Christina it was just having fun I think, Sarah Jane it was just him happy to see his old friend back, I think Rose (in the new series anyway) is the only one he has ever wanted romantically :)

  • Exactly :D

  • Y can't it b December already. Gona be crying coz this is truly the end for Rose and the 10th Doctor (excluding the clone 1) lol x x. We need a kiss to tie up the loose ends and make every single 10/Rose fan's wishes come true.

  • I totally agree with everything you said! hehe. It would be sort of weird though wouldnt it? "I know you dont know me but can I just kiss you a lil' bit?!" lol

    I reeeaaallly want it to be December!

  • Same here! Although the later it comes the better! Ten wont leave then hehe :)

  • I cannot wait!!!!! If I had a TARDIS I would go forward in time to December and watch the Doctor Who Special two parter.

  • Wouldnt we all!? XD

    Really cannot wait!

  • all we need is the doctor to say i love you to rose, then kiss her. NOW that would really make my day xx can't wait. the only reson im watching it is because Rose is back and DT is leaving *sob*. xx

  • I agree with everything you just said! XD

  • i carnt wait for december not only because its the mounth of my birthday also because of doctor who

  • Me too!

    And happy birthday for December! hehe!

  • I dont think they ood will kill him, they might control him or something but they wouldnt kill him!

    They're too awesome! XD

  • Thank you!

    I know! I love Rose and Im so glad they're bringing her back!

    A past Rose should be really good to watch!

  • "is it December yet?" i love that you said that, that was exactly what i was thinking at that moment.

    wow, i actually hadn't seen most of these pictures. i cannot wait to see this and i am so glad she's going to be there during his regeneration because Rose and Ten... GOD! ROSE/TEN FOREVER!!!!!! Ten is Rose's Doctor! so much more than Nine. it's a good way for him to go out.

  • hehe I know, on the one hand I want it to come so quickly so we all get to watch it but then it means Ten's time is over if it comes quickly :)

    Rose/Ten is amazing! I do love a good bit of Rose/Nine though! hehe

  • Who do you reckon controlling the odd this time

  • ...10.

    ... Rose.

    United in Death.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAA

    Dude, who do you think is controlling them? Only ONE MAN is annoying enough to have considered using someone the Doctor had already freed. Lemmmee give you a hint _KOSCHEI OF OAKDOWN- OH MY GOD IM GONNA DIEEEEEEE TEN ROSE YIPPEEEE A ROMANTIC ENDING THANK YOU RUSSEL YOU SUON OF A BITCH

  • Rose 10 love =D

  • thanks a lot you just made me even more excited

  • But shes only menna be there for like a second coz he asks her the year and she says 2005 then he tells her its going to be a great year or something =[ i want more Billie!

    Im sooo happy im back in England for Christmas this year! It means i can watch it! Yay!

    Rose/10 shipper for life!

  • They wont have brought her back for a couple of seconds, it might be a small cameo but it should still be pretty long, i hope anyway!

    Rose/Ten all the way!

  • I hope so too you can tell theres gonna be that strained smile that hes hapy to see her again but its eminding him of what hes lost *sniffle* I wont cry..,.WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

  • Thanks, I'm all excited now! RTD said episode before the two-part finale was connected to the finale. So, funny that the Ood next to the about-to-regenerate-probably doctor looks like the one in 'The Waters of Mars'! Coincidene? I don't think so...

  • hwo will she come back though,cause she was trapped in the parrellal universe wasnt she?

  • no if you watch it will say that this is a past Rose before she met The Doctor, therefore she is still on our Earth :)

  • CAN'T WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS.

    i really don't know what is going to happen. so many possiblities.

    EXCITING!!!!

  • Me neither!

    I do love Rose but when I heard she was coming back I didnt know if it would ruin the ending of series four, but if its a past Rose, we could still see Billie again but not mess up the ending of the last series :D

  • No, it's extensions.

  • Billie had to grow her hair a bit longer for Secret Diary so it might be real hehe

    Cant wait!

    I wonder how she will get on acting like she did in "Rose" because in the first ep she was a completely different charcter!

  • i'm rose tyler fan ...some thing better happen ...i love u ...or something ...or she married to the human dr..something ...o ..yeah ....i going to miss ...the tenth dr... thank you for sharing

  • This is Rose in our Universe, but before she met the Doctor. The Tenth encounters her earlier in her timeline on New Year's Eve, 2004. The Doctor tells her that she is going to have a fantastic year 2005 and reportedly (hopefully) also tells her that he loves her and kisses her. He then unfortunately has to erase her memory, so she won't remember him. This prevents time from being messed up.

  • It sounds weird, that whole theory that he wipes her mind after confessing his love, but I cant see any other possibilities, lets hope davies has a good plot line in store!

  • He has to, so she won't know him already in the future. That would mess up the timelines.

  • Yeah but like I said, Davies might get a better plotline for it!

  • I am soo glad Rose is coming back for ten's last episode. its only fittiing :)

    However, it will be soooo sad, because i don't want david tennant to leave *tear*

  • Awesome, but... the Doctor killed by an Ood? That's kinda stupid...

  • Ood Sigma doesn't kill him. He's a good guy! The Doctor is already dying by that point.

  • its the beast from a the blackhole its coming through the darkness ood sigma was put on earth in 2004 along with aderlaide and others to escape the destruction of the mars base and gets taken over by the beast

  • I wish. I always thought the beast was one of the best enemies ever, and it would be nice to have a more recent enemy returning instead of just the old "Classic" enemies like Daleks and Cybermen, abit like the woman from the Slitheen family. I highly doubt it though, I don't know why. I just don't think we'll be seeing it again. If we do see it again, I will eat.. erm... something gross. Like a Twiglet, dipped in mustard, since those are 2 things I absolutely HATE.

  • I imagine that in the end of the specials, the Doctor is dying and decides to go back in time to see Rose before she met him in his 9th incarnation, before being met by Ood Sigma and accepting that he has to regenerate and leave his old companions behind, thus setting the scene for Series 5 with new companions and a new Doctor.

  • *and is then met by Ood SIgma

  • fenrir721. I agree with you.

  • i cant wait that lol

  • Oh. Sounds nice.

    Maybe she looks like series 1 as she maybe is a Rose before she met the 9th Doctor (9th Doctor did mention he was a Father Christmas to Rose with a red bike when she was 12)

    Sounds like it's going to be cool. =)

    I also heard on wiki (so it could be wrong) that John Simm will be in this special too. So could The Master be coming back?

  • yeah I think the master is coming back because there are pictures of him filming on set and things I think :D

  • Yeah. I seen those pics too =3

    However he looks like he died his hair blond. =P

    Still i look forward to it. ^^

  • why are they on the Powell Estate then

    Rose and Jackie live in the big mansion with Pete now dont they

  • you all cant wait but, its wen david tennant leaves :( i doubt i'll watch it wen DT and RTD go, because matt smith is gay, and in csi, he suks, hopefull, there will b magic and MS regenerates into DT again, that would be awesome lol

  • Matt Smith will be good, you only dont like him because you like DT so much. Hes not gay.

  • Good writing aint it!

    Seriously excited!

  • i seriously can not wait!!

    i hoep it's brilliant (sure it will be)

    and yay they're back at the good old Powel Estate!! :D:D:D

  • I know! Im getting more and more excited!

    I miss the Powell Estate! lol

    And Jackie, she rules!

  • lol i seriously wish it was december already!!

    i love rose, and all her family and everything about her so going back to her roots will be brilliant!! :D

  • But her hair could of grown so it;s still the same Rose, as she still looks like she did in series 4 but with slightly longer hair, she doesn't look like what she did in series 1

  • My god it looks like Rose before she met the Doctor, thats going to cause problems!!! This isn't the parallel world!!!!

  • wonder how they will explain the fact that she didnt recognise him when he regenerated from nine to ten..hhmmm

  • 2 things:

    1. damn it rose be happy with what you got and stop coming back for more!

    2. the ood in the photo has red eyes....

  • At 0:46 it looks like that Ood has ordered the Doctor to do some push ups lol

  • rotfl! Drill Instructor Ood sigma :P

  • LOOOL she can be annoying but shes ok

  • OMG SARAH JANE WILL BE IN IT ASWELL :D

  • HE GOES BACK TO A TIME BEFORE SHE HAS MET ANY OF THE DOCTORS, SO SHE AINT GONNA KNOW WHO HE IS.

    Im moving to frickken Australia before December, so i might miss it =[

    x

  • I'm moving to France in September :'( I'm going to get my friend to record it on DVD and send me it!

  • Good ideaaaa =]

  • yeah, she's back and she has a baby *gasp*

  • woah i cant wait to see how they explain how 2005 rose forgets that she saw the 10th doctor regenerate - he might do what he does to donna in a way

  • i think this might make me cry when it comes out. I love David, hes an amazing actor and I really really dont want him to leave DW

  • Love the music btw.

    GOD I NEED TO STOP COMMENTING!

    SHUSH DANI SHUSH!

  • hehe me too!

    I reaally dont want DT to go though!

    I feel like he has only just started Who, maybe thats just me though XD

  • right... but oh i dunno. AHH I NEED DECEMBER TO HURRY UP BUT SLOW DOWN CUZ ILL MISS DAVID AND BILLIE TO MUCH WHEN THEY LEAVE :O

    (P.s. Matt Smith looks like an emo turnip)

  • David in this reminds me of back in series 2. All three of the people in this look like the past characters to me. Looks v. wierd. And for some reason, at 0:13, the shot of david reminds me of when the doctor was in the car thing squeein over the kittens. Im so wierd and excited xD Dont pay any attention to my ramblings. I really DONT KNOW what i want to happen with the whole 10.5/realdoc/rose thing. i dnt want rose to marry 10.5 or anythin, cuz that would break the docs heart and it wouldnt be

  • don't worry rose is only doing a cameo i heard which takes place before she meets the doctorhowever in real time, rose is in the alternative universe with 10.5.

  • i don't know if it's of any importance but did anyone else notice that at 0:41 rose tyler has a ring on her wedding finger mmmm lol i was just wondering if anyone else noticed that

  • Yeah I noticed that too!

  • OMG she does!!!! i think i just died XP

  • I think and OMG YAY! Is in order XD

  • I HOPE SO

  • Beautiful...................

  • the doctor goes back to 2005 and sees rose there before she meets the ninth doctor.

  • i agree it seems like doctor who might be doing a christmas carol trip with donna's granfather as the ghost of the past,present and things to come???

  • Her hair grew longer, is that the only reason everyone thinks she's season 1 rose?

  • That ood id ood sigma and it looks like he has hurt the DR. i thaught ood sigma was a nice ood.??????

  • Hey is it just me but in 00:46 does it look like ten has someone under him?

  • I know what you mean but I think its just his coat XD

  • Right...still that is weird,isn't it?

  • I swear to God, see if they bring her back and we don't get some proper moments between them.. in journey's end as much as i loved it poor rose was kind of pushed over to the side and treated like just another co-star.. definitely not the treatment she desevered - so if we dont get a kiss.. I SWEAR :)

  • haha i agree completely WE NEED A KISS- a proper kiss

  • Absolutely! RTD nearly got it right last year, but now we need Rose and Ten to kiss! hehe

  • totally. i will be running at RTD with a knife and a pitchfork if we dont get the kiss!!

  • XD I'm excited! But, how would that work? Wouldn't it mess with the timelines? T_T I can't wait 7 months now!