He forgot to mention the enormous amount of storage space and i/o that is required to store all the VM's and data stores. So the idea of saving a ton of money is a bit of a misnomer.
Guys the next gen Virtualization is based on KVM which is with Red Hat as RH Enterprise Virtualization (RHEV). It is highly stable and scalable and costs 1/3rd of what VM Ware does.
1. Xen has more features that are great to be used with good hardware that can support those features but if you're sitting at home working with it with an old desktop it's not as good. 2. My one fear when working with a virual production enviorment is hardware failure. If the hardware goes then everything in that box goes, so instead of loosing one machine and being down you've lost em all so to speak. However if you keep a spare around it becomes so easy to come back online.
By the way on the performance thing. Are you NUTS!! No way VMWare even competes. You may want to read some studies on this. If you need real world examples look at Amazon's EC2 cloud. What does it run? That's right Xen. The only real competitor to XEN in the futurer is KVM.
You have absolutely no idea about VMware, vSphere or virtualisation.
Xen vs VMware? Please! That's not even an argument worth having. the feature set of VMware far outweighs Xen and you know it.
But it's not free? Please explain why it should be. The benefits of the product far outweigh the cost. It contains features the competitors do not have.
It finally works on your SATA drives? Well actually it has worked for a very long time, but you would never use SATA in production environment.
LMAO...WHAT FEATURE SETS!! There are NONE at this point...NONE. VMWare is a farce at this point.
Why should it be free? OK. Because most of the others are now...KVM, Xen, hell even Microsoft is giving away Hyper-V if you buy Windows Server. VMWare is a joke man! Only admins afraid of open source use it. Oh and companies that have a previous huge investment. Just watch man...give it 5 years and you'll see it trickle away if they don't start offering more value add.
No sata? No sata? Are you nuts?? I am so glad I don't employ you!! You'd have our customers spending way more money than they need to. Ever heard of Equallogic, Coraid or NexSan. Man you are a complete idiot. Good luck spending your company's money in this economy.
As far as plain SATA goes, once again, it's good for customers that want to experiment on lower end hardware. Not every box needs fiber channel disks dude. Many apps work just fine with lower disk io requirements.
Sorry it appears that ESXi FINALLY added support for sata drives--either that or you have to change some configs from what I've found on the web. Last time I tried it wouldn't work. Who in the heck wants to run VMWare server nowadays? It has to sit on another OS. vSphere still costs money my friend. By the way most people generically say IDE or ATA when referring to EIDE, SATA, etc. as opposed to scsi--just thought you might want to know.
VMWare is DEAD! Bad admins just don't know it yet!
Oh by the way for all you folks looking for FREE virtualization...go download Citrix Xen right now...it's totally free and unlike VMWare it will install on IDE drives so you can play with it at home. VMware offers a free version but it's not the full blown thing AND it will only run on scsi disks.
thinstall is goofy. Why load a whole dekstop for just app. With Citrix I get all this plus just apps if I want them so where you gotta "spend" 512 MB or Ram for just one app I can get by with like 60 or 70 MB...whatever the footprint of the app is. Oh yeah what about one to many disks...you gotta use emc or netapp or some hugely expensive san vendor. Citrix comes with provisioning server so I don'h have to waste disk space per vm and I can stream to physical boxes too.
i do not appreciate the rude commnets on this video. that man giving the presentation is my father and I love him. he is a salesperson, and he makes a lot of money. i bet all of you people don't do as well as he does at making money
This guy was so buzzword compliant I threw up a little in my mouth. Moore's law states that the density of transistors that can be fit onto an integrated circuit roughly doubles every two years. Some of his explanations were a bit cheesy and not entirely accurate either.
The information in this video far outweighs the problem of the production (which wasn't a big deal get over it). Great Work!! That guy is great at explaining things!
Beware of people who consider technical stuff being "exciting". Tech-lovers are not the ideal consultants :) They will always find some "money" issues for the boss but basically they want to hold the product in their hands and "own" and control it. Always keep this in mind, whenever you ask a tech-focussed person about benefits of new systems. The main benefit is mostly the income of the hard- and software-producers.
At the begining of the Video I wondered why the instructor was acting slightly arrogant and somewhat unamused. After painfully witnessing the A.D.D. affected Cameraman and Salesrep I feel he was justified. How annoying!!! (This could have been a great Video) What a waste..
Hey, I appreciate the comments on the video, and apologize. I was recording this for my own use, and really wasn't looking for production values. Kevin did such a great job, so I decided to share it.
@pmisner Thank you for uploading this video. The fellow does a good job of white-boarding the VM concepts, and the video is appreciated since I'm going into an interview tomorrow and need to know this stuff! lol
He forgot to mention the enormous amount of storage space and i/o that is required to store all the VM's and data stores. So the idea of saving a ton of money is a bit of a misnomer.
Garrman1 2 months ago
The funny thing is this has been done with mainframes for 30 years.
kjdavey 8 months ago
Hey, Thats a really simple way of positioning VMWare....good job! Keep them coming .Thanks
Roosterbosch 11 months ago
Very good video. The guy explains so good ^^ Thank you a lot
Qu1ki 1 year ago
Pmisner - Thanks for the sharing
arabiantxn 1 year ago
Guys the next gen Virtualization is based on KVM which is with Red Hat as RH Enterprise Virtualization (RHEV). It is highly stable and scalable and costs 1/3rd of what VM Ware does.
punjabimunda6 1 year ago
great video
saurabhsethi17 1 year ago
isn't this dwight shrute's relative?
jackbomberdp 1 year ago
I like VMWARE
xsni 2 years ago
unnecessary footage
Vicodin1k 2 years ago
1. Xen has more features that are great to be used with good hardware that can support those features but if you're sitting at home working with it with an old desktop it's not as good. 2. My one fear when working with a virual production enviorment is hardware failure. If the hardware goes then everything in that box goes, so instead of loosing one machine and being down you've lost em all so to speak. However if you keep a spare around it becomes so easy to come back online.
mysterchr 2 years ago
By the way on the performance thing. Are you NUTS!! No way VMWare even competes. You may want to read some studies on this. If you need real world examples look at Amazon's EC2 cloud. What does it run? That's right Xen. The only real competitor to XEN in the futurer is KVM.
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
You have absolutely no idea about VMware, vSphere or virtualisation.
Xen vs VMware? Please! That's not even an argument worth having. the feature set of VMware far outweighs Xen and you know it.
But it's not free? Please explain why it should be. The benefits of the product far outweigh the cost. It contains features the competitors do not have.
It finally works on your SATA drives? Well actually it has worked for a very long time, but you would never use SATA in production environment.
wizdude 2 years ago
LMAO...WHAT FEATURE SETS!! There are NONE at this point...NONE. VMWare is a farce at this point.
Why should it be free? OK. Because most of the others are now...KVM, Xen, hell even Microsoft is giving away Hyper-V if you buy Windows Server. VMWare is a joke man! Only admins afraid of open source use it. Oh and companies that have a previous huge investment. Just watch man...give it 5 years and you'll see it trickle away if they don't start offering more value add.
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
No sata? No sata? Are you nuts?? I am so glad I don't employ you!! You'd have our customers spending way more money than they need to. Ever heard of Equallogic, Coraid or NexSan. Man you are a complete idiot. Good luck spending your company's money in this economy.
As far as plain SATA goes, once again, it's good for customers that want to experiment on lower end hardware. Not every box needs fiber channel disks dude. Many apps work just fine with lower disk io requirements.
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
when did I mention anything about fibre channel?
there are some great iSCSI solutions out there that are ideal for the mid size client.
i won't use SATA drives as primary storage for any larger customers, however. the failure rate and lower performance is a turnoff.
wizdude 2 years ago
Sorry it appears that ESXi FINALLY added support for sata drives--either that or you have to change some configs from what I've found on the web. Last time I tried it wouldn't work. Who in the heck wants to run VMWare server nowadays? It has to sit on another OS. vSphere still costs money my friend. By the way most people generically say IDE or ATA when referring to EIDE, SATA, etc. as opposed to scsi--just thought you might want to know.
VMWare is DEAD! Bad admins just don't know it yet!
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
Oh by the way for all you folks looking for FREE virtualization...go download Citrix Xen right now...it's totally free and unlike VMWare it will install on IDE drives so you can play with it at home. VMware offers a free version but it's not the full blown thing AND it will only run on scsi disks.
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
The problem is; VMware has much better performance and reliability than Citrix Xen
82vv28 2 years ago
VMware Server which is free will run on IDE, SATA or SCSI disks
vSphere which is the enterprise version will run on SATA or SCSI... who has IDE these days?
l3vana 2 years ago
thinstall is goofy. Why load a whole dekstop for just app. With Citrix I get all this plus just apps if I want them so where you gotta "spend" 512 MB or Ram for just one app I can get by with like 60 or 70 MB...whatever the footprint of the app is. Oh yeah what about one to many disks...you gotta use emc or netapp or some hugely expensive san vendor. Citrix comes with provisioning server so I don'h have to waste disk space per vm and I can stream to physical boxes too.
leeroyjenkinsii 2 years ago
i do not appreciate the rude commnets on this video. that man giving the presentation is my father and I love him. he is a salesperson, and he makes a lot of money. i bet all of you people don't do as well as he does at making money
CandieRivers 2 years ago 2
Wow, you are some major cry baby lol
82vv28 2 years ago
Virtualization was brought out by old IBM mainframes years ago, wasn't it?
That's what makes IT weird.
We now use IPv4 over the internet but Yahoo, MS Vista and others bring out the "new" IPv6, which is old itself.
These techs have been out decades ago.
But the "cheaper alternative" like regular kernels and IPv4 were pushed out.
It's like both technologies are like beta versions.
You pay $1000 for a new machine & OS but the tech is old.
Welcome to beta version OSs and Internet...
kurizzos 3 years ago
The man presenting VMWare was geeked up.
VMWare is pretty impressive, but myself as a future network admin, ROI gets discussed too much when VMWare is spoken about.
I just returned from a VMWare forum today and received literatrue from a few resalers with VMWare niches...
ROI is in the reading too much with a few instances of "unneeded human intervention".
With this in mind, hope I get a gig after graduating IT college...
kurizzos 3 years ago
nah...he's obviously a sales person..
a real "geek" wouldn't have talked about money and ROI in the first few sentences.
fievel3782 3 years ago
This guy was so buzzword compliant I threw up a little in my mouth. Moore's law states that the density of transistors that can be fit onto an integrated circuit roughly doubles every two years. Some of his explanations were a bit cheesy and not entirely accurate either.
gr4tuitou5 3 years ago 2
The information in this video far outweighs the problem of the production (which wasn't a big deal get over it). Great Work!! That guy is great at explaining things!
numarkmixer1 3 years ago
nice work... very informative.
cocomojo 4 years ago
Beware of people who consider technical stuff being "exciting". Tech-lovers are not the ideal consultants :) They will always find some "money" issues for the boss but basically they want to hold the product in their hands and "own" and control it. Always keep this in mind, whenever you ask a tech-focussed person about benefits of new systems. The main benefit is mostly the income of the hard- and software-producers.
WolYou 4 years ago
At the begining of the Video I wondered why the instructor was acting slightly arrogant and somewhat unamused. After painfully witnessing the A.D.D. affected Cameraman and Salesrep I feel he was justified. How annoying!!! (This could have been a great Video) What a waste..
peterssachs 4 years ago
Hey, I appreciate the comments on the video, and apologize. I was recording this for my own use, and really wasn't looking for production values. Kevin did such a great job, so I decided to share it.
pmisner 4 years ago
@pmisner Thank you for uploading this video. The fellow does a good job of white-boarding the VM concepts, and the video is appreciated since I'm going into an interview tomorrow and need to know this stuff! lol
JRCrowley 1 year ago
mount the cam before you start recording...god....
etegration 4 years ago
Have you checked out the BOBST SPERIA 106E
video and the others? Alan Letford of Bobst uk his really funny!
goosesteppingmullet 3 years ago