The Berlin Wall - Lessons Learned

[rezek71]

You cannot say be active and not allow new walls. America (as most 1st world countries) is being overrun by illegal aliens. 1st world values will be destroyed and all western countries will resemble mexico city.

[Tonza]

What has happened after ddr?

Well educated women are moving elsewhere after better jobs and poorly educated men are just left in east-germany.

Men in todays east-germany have no job or gf/wife and neo-nazism is rising among these men.

[falchard]

I think the Berlin Wall is a testament to what happens when you build a wall and face the guns the wrong way. It ends up getting destroyed in less then 30 years.

[NorceCodine]

Except not to forget that it was not Russians who pulled the trigger at the wall for 30 years, the murderers all spoke German. The sad truth is that Germans had no qualm shooting other Germans. Do not be fooled by all this "communism vs. freedom" white-washing of the real truth - bullets have no ideology.

Europe's catastrophy always was, and is Germany, and it will always be a ticking time bomb. Use your head, propaganda has many faces and it loves emotions.

[Allexmax]

Yes, what about the wall in Israel and the Refuge camps in Palestina? Why do we ignore this so many years aready ...

[DrMotorDude]

@Allexmax Because the walls that keep good people in (Berlin) do not stand - but the walls that keep bad people out do (Palestine.)

[wojtek0000]

Jews have built new walls in Israel.

[intravenous82]

Жаль что больше нам нечем прикрыться от потока дерьма с той стороны.

[NoOneAsIrish]

Folks, let's not forget that the wall was built with the full knowledge and, at least implicit, consent of the US. Soviets & Americans had a brief stand-off at Checkpoint Charlie but stood down when unhindered access by US forces to E Germany was granted by the Russians. Whether or not E & W Germans had any access was of little interest to the US, despite JFK's tear-jerking performance in '63 in W Berlin. Germans were left to overcome the wall by themselves and eventually did.

[yahazif]

The lessons of the Berlin wall have been totally lost. Obama fills his administration with Marxist and the Americans and Europeans don't see any problem. It's breath taking.

[Molo9000]

U wanna know why Europeans don't see any problem with Obama?

a) Their current governments are way more "socialist" (and corrupt for that matter) than Obama could ever dream about.

I guess most european governments are as far left of the "optimum" as the US government is to the right of the "optimum". (in terms of economic policy)

b) Many europeans have actually experienced real socialism and understand that Obama is not in the least a socialist.

[xxironballzxx]

most of us americans would welcome universal medicare for 64 and younger.

[dadecountyhustler305]

@xxironballzxx

SHure who wouldn't but tax increases is something we wouldn't

[kazpmk]

Yes but at least you know what you are paying for. Now we pay a lot of taxes but we don't get anything in return.

[mejor25]

Saludos al pueblo de Berlín en este aniversario.

[yahazif]

The Berlin wall was built to stop people from escaping Communist rule. The Left always comes to power claiming that they want to help the poor. Once in power they become murderous and treat people like slaves. Russia, China, Romania, Cambodia etc.. When East Germany fell to the communist in 1945 people tried to escape. The Communist built the Berlin wall to keep people under their control.

[golfisgreat123]

it was build to give parts of berlin to the allies the allies owned part of germany

[sayhotdog]

Can anyone tell me why was Berlin wall made?

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

I added a link to the article of mine with the historic time line of the events related and surrounding the Berlin Wall. But the short answer to your question is: East Germany was "bleeding out". Mostly the young and skilled people used the open border between East Berlin and West Berlin to flee to the west. The Border between East Germany and West Germany was already shut. That had catastrophic consequences for the East German economy. Ulbricht had to stop that.

[pimpout46]

@turnbeutelvergesserB , the berlin wall was made because dat kept the communist the and the capotalist apart if im correct

[heathirving]

@turnbeutelvergesserB

not to mention the hypocritical attitude west berliners had,where they would enjoy the free education,free health care,and dirt cheap prices in east berlin,then at the end of the day bog off back to the west

[esmuneca]

The Berlin Wall was built by the eastern powers, the Communists mostly from USSR. There reasoning was that they were trying to avoid invansion from the Allied powers from the West. Which was total crap. if you see pictures of the wall all of the land mines and holes were from the east to the west not west to east. Which means that they were trying to stop eastners to go west. They knew the the west had more oppurtunies for the people. Their economy was failing. So up the wall went

[PanteraCU1984]

Because the communist regime felt it was necessary to 'protect' their people against the West. And to stop the massive exodus from people to the West. Simply said ofcourse.

[freesk8]

It was made to prevent workers from leaving East Berlin, where the implementation of govt ownership of the means of production (i.e. socialism) was creating poverty and despair. East Germany was given to the Soviets at the end of WW2 since they reached Berlin at about the same time as the US and British forces. The Soviets put in a puppet govt and implemented socialism. This made conditions terrible. It made E Berlin in to a sort of forced work camp. Most people wanted to leave.

[MylesHSG]

@sayhotdog to stop east germans leaving east garmany for west germany

[DrMotorDude]

@sayhotdog The REAL reason was the communists wanted to have a contained and controlled population. Eliminating freedom of movement was the biggest obstacle in their 'plan.' I lived in Germany in the late 1980s and saw it myself - you could ONLY approach the wall from the west - think about it. Truth is the whole state of DDR was a prison.

[aguyfromsweden]

@sayhotdog becuse the comunistic eastgermany under the controll of the sovietunion didnt want any one to escape from their nation.. and that I may tell you was sick as hell!

[hanzadude]

GO FREEDOM!

[stad1982]

Ah super,das Lied hab ich gesucht. Habs vor ein paar Jahren schonmal gehört und seitdem nicht mehr aus dem Kopf bekommen :p Danke

[romeo9k]

Niemand hat die Absicht eine Mauer zu errichten. Kein Mensch denkt daran. Gar kein. Niemand. Besdoners in Berlin, Hauptstadt der DDR, baby!

[l00pylaura]

Anywhere i can find the lyrics to 'Berlin, Berlin'? Ich liebe es :)

[klowety]

Berlin, Berlin, hey Dein Herz kennt keine Mauern Berlin, Berlin, hey Berlin, Berlin, hey Es gibt nichts zu bedauern Berlin, Berlin, hey Dein Herz kennt keine Mauern Du bist einfach du Berlin, Berlin, hey Es gibt nichts zu bedauern Berlin, Berlin

[klowety]

Danke ich bin für Politik Niemand hat die Absicht Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu erricht Mei, Meine Damen und Herren, Mei, Meine Damen und Herren, die Mauer, die Mauer muß weg - weg, weg, weg Mei, Meine Damen und Herren, Mei, Meine Damen und Herren, das Herz der Nation schlägt Berlin, Berlin, hey Es gibt nichts zu bedauern Berlin, Berlin, hey Bleib einfach du

[coldplasma1]

what the sign say in german at 6:45 mins i got this :

bleibt die mauer gehn die leute fdilt die mauer ist sie pleite ja sie hat es wirklich schwer unsre arme DDR

remains the wall fdilt people go to the wall she is so broke she has it really hard our poor DDR

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Roughly translated:

If the wall stays, the people will leave

if the wall falls, "she" will go bust/broke

yes, she has it tough our poor GDR

Cheers!

[reckley]

I think before the wall many people lived in the East but worked in the West half of the city and this caused a major inflation problem for the soviets, who had introduced their own currency at the time.

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

You are an idiot and I leave your comment active that everybody can see why.

[charly2329]

ich finde das ist der größte scheiß den es gibt

[MercedesStarcruiser]

The saddest thing is that nobody of those people that stands behind that system and installed that dictatorship was jailed or stopped the payment their pensions and even their monitoring agency, their secret service was integrated into the west germen secret service.

but none of the victims of that cruel system was recompensed or had their reputation reconstructed each of them must fight on their own in a long lawsuit.

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

That's actually not true. Egon Krenz and several other Politbuero members went to prison for several years. But I hear you. Too many were simply absorbed by the West German system without retributions,

[14Trooper88]

Amazing to see people building their own jail.

[niklinda]

they were made to do it

[121Swaleskid]

just saying the berlin wall didnt cause thousands of deaths, only 98 died

[RedheadDane]

If that's so then that was 98 too many!

[sellipirelli]

f*** you

[121Swaleskid]

i think you mean "fuck" :)

[TiefvonHintenrein]

Habt ihr euch mal gefragt,warum die west-allierten einen sektor im westteil und die sowjets im ostteil der stadt hatten? Hätte Hitler den krieg gewonnen,hätte ich bestimmt ein haus auf der krim gehabt und ich wäre ein verhaßter besatzer in ihrem land gewesen....

[NeoFalcon69]

You can divide a country but you cannot divide blood.

[Dudtz]

The Soviets didn't have to give France Bitain and USA West Berlin.

[TakehikoKun]

This episode in history is clear proof of the sick game our masters have been playing on us.. Don't people realise how surreal it is or that it wasn't necessary? Then, once it had served its purpose and our masters started a new game they just took it down. And people think it fell by a series of strange accidents and coincidences!! lol

The writing is on the wall.

[larochka89]

ohhh dieses lied is echt geil!!! selbst gemixt?!! ;) ... gefällt mich echt gut!!!

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Noe.. Du meinst doch den ersten Song, oder? Das ist das Lied "Berlin, Berlin" von "John F. und die Gropiuslerchen". Der zweite Song ist von den "Skeptikern" und heisst "Berlin".

[larochka89]

dankeschöööön!!! :)

[JesseAronGaron]

Jeden Tag bin ich froh, dass wir DAS hinter uns haben...

[hocespickesine]

Wayne!!!!!

[Kalae03]

me and all my freinds love urr viiiidd =D

what is the "berlin berlin" song called?

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

The one with the kids chorus or the Punk song?

The first one is "Berlin, Berlin" by "John F und die Gropiuslerchen", the punk song is "Berlin" by "Die Spektiker".

[Kalae03]

OMG ! ICH LIEBE DICH ~ ~ ! ! ! =D

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

argh... typo.. "Die Skeptiker", not "Die Spektiker" :)

[milkSoft]

Cock bunnies. :)

[RaptoRsAreTecMo]

at 6:54, was the guy being lowered into the west, or being pushed back into the east?

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

lowered into the west.. it's simple.. if the wall has a lot of grafitti, it's the West Berlin side.. if it is clean and virtually free of Grafitti, it's the Eastern side.

[luger41]

thanks for upload this is so cool :)

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Did you see the Version 4 (4 part video series, 31 minutes altogether) of my video about the Berlin Wall? You can find it under my YouTube account.

[rwilli1228]

JFK called himself a jelly donut.

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

... and the Wiener (the folks from Vienna) call themselves a sausage. Wiener is not called Wiener in Vienna of course, I think they might call it "Frankfurter" (the Frankfurter call it of course Wiener and not Frankfurter). The Berliners (I am one) do not call that jelly donut "Berliner", they call it Pfannkuchen, because we call what other call "Pfannkuchen" (Pancake), Eierkuchen (Egg Cake). You never stop learning.... So in short, Kennedy said the correct words to the right people.. ur'welcome

[LanceloteSee]

Ich hab den Terror damals selbst miterlebt. War wegen Fluchtversuch politisch in Staasihaft als ich später 1987 freigekauft wurde... Damals war ich 19.

[LanceloteSee]

Leider ist das Lernen aus der Geschichte nicht einer der Stärken der Menschheit.

Heut wird in den USA der schlimmste Polizeistaat errichtet den die Welt je gesehen hat und Bush lies eine Mauer zu Mexico errichten, die die Berliner Mauer lächerlich erscheinen läßt.

Und die Menschen sind alle viel zu viel mit sich selbst beschäftigt... als daß sie endlich wach würden!

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Einer der Gruende die mich dazu bewegt haben das video herzustellen und darueber zu bloggen. Es werden mehr und mehr Menschen wach... selbst Menschen die noch nie in ihrem Leben jemals einmal wach waren. Hoffen wir das es nicht zu spaet ist.

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

p.s. Ich habe die Beschreibung des videos geaendert und den link zu meinem blog post hinzugefuegt (da ich in den Comments ja keinen Link hinzufuegen kann). Da findest du auch eine laengere version des videos, das auch bilder der "Wall" zw. den USA und Mexiko enthaelt.

[mainsqueeze1977]

Wer die USA für eine Polizeistaat hält, hat noch keinen erlebt. Oder kennt die USA nicht!

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Noch ist es nicht, aber man arbeitet sich langsam darauf hin. Das ist ja das gefaehrliche.. wenn es dann irgendwann zu spaet sein sollte, dann ist da nix mehr zu fixen. Deutschland ist ja auch nicht von einem Tag auf den anderen von der Weimarer Republik zur Nazidiktatur geworden. Da gab es ja auch erst Schritte vorher, die es dann den Nazis ermoeglicht haben totale Kontrolle zu uebernehmen.

[mainsqueeze1977]

Dann ist aber dennoch meilenweit entfernt. Ich bleibe bei meinem Punkt oben.

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Soweit ist es nun leider doch nicht mehr, aber ich hoffe mal das das auf die Bremse druecken funktioniert (siehe Wahlen vor ein paar Wochen) und diese nicht versagen.

[MaestroFire]

that stones in that house that is very impressief

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

crazy, wasn't it?

[MaestroFire]

yes it is, if they do it in my city a wall, really crazy i cant see it for my eyes

[locutus125]

wirklich ein sehr gutes Video, nur hat sich ein kleiner Fehler eingeschlichen - der Soldat der im August '61 über den Stacheldrahtzaun sprang hieß nicht Conrad Schuster, sondern Conrad Schumann

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

danke... ich versuchte schon mehrfach ne "annotation" zum video hinzuzufuegen, aber ich bekomme immer ne Error message. :(

[tommy261de]

unglaublich, was in diesem deutschland passiert ist... unglaublich...

danke für Dein video - ich hab*s nicht besser gewusst

[turnbeutelvergesserB]

Das ist dem Internet zu verdanken. Informationen sind heute viel besser zugaenglich, speziell wenn man weiss wonach man sucht. Frueher hat man Sachen einfach wegsortiert und in einer Kammer vergessen. Heute sind viele dieser alten Sachen herausgekramt, digitalisiert und im Internet verfuegbar gemacht. Die Entschuldigung "das habe ich ja gar nicht gewusst" ist immer weniger als Ausrede zu gebrachen, da "nicht wissen" im Internet mehr bedeutet "nicht kuemmern". :)

[tommy261de]

eben - aus diesem grund schrieb ich das.

hg

th

[Ciaran31]

Cool vid.