@PInk77W1 Please, before you make such a whimsical plea, It may be worth remembering that Thomas More put people to the rack and had them burned alive, simply for OWNING a bible in English. Oh, and then he, for such barbaric acts, was made a saint. Jeez, if you Must Pray, pray to someone more worthy.
@rrdab1 u r completely mistaken. as usual. Notice how u didnt mention any law he broke. ST Thomas More, patron of politicians, pray for us. FYI i have his picture on my wall at home. peace
@PInk77W1 So, you don't believe More had "heretics" tortured and burned? I suggest you research, he is one of the most cruel Inquisitors in history . But, you are correct when you say i didn't mention any law he broke ( I assume you are referring to his own death penalty). Well, laws were quite arbitrary, what the monarch wanted, he generally got. Only in 1936 was More made a saint and in 2000 made patron saint of politicians (quite apt really). Good film though.
@rrdab1 no i do believe he had heretics tortured and burned. if u follow your own suggestion u will find that was his JOB!!!!! I can c u dont believe in heretics which More kind of did. Heretics can ruin a country and England did not want their country ruined. So they killed the enemy. Not too hard to figure out really.
@richo61 Well this is a movie based on a play. It is, of course, going to have a protagonist and be told from a character's perspective--hardly propaganda. It is also misleading to say he executed people for reading the bible in English. His issues were with what he saw as inaccurate translations with the Tyndale Bible. As Lord Chancellor there were six heretics put to death, but this was hardly an uncommon practice for heresy at the time for Protestants or Catholics. Think Calvin.
@richo61 No one from this time was cuddly. When judging the character of a historical figure it is unfair not to consider the times he was brought up in - whether or not brutality and murder was socially commonplace.
On this, the feast day of St. Thomas More, may those of us who follow in his footsteps see from his example, and know the lesson that those who do not learn from history ARE destined to repeat it.
On this, the feast day of St. Thomas More, may those of us who follow in his footsteps see from his example, and know the lesson that those who do not learn from history ARE destined to repeat it.
I performed this scene for a Forensics Speech Competition senior year of high school. Did pretty well too. Thanks for uploading this, it's complete brilliance in writing/acting and brings back a lot of great memories.
@akosigundam Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the churchman at such an interrogation would have been the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer... So all FOUR Thomases together! Neat :)
The voice is a wonder, because it isn`t public school. It isn`t sloane ranger, it isn`t BBC, it isn`t posh, it`s not even what folk would call classical. Unique and much missed.
This is my favorite scene of the movie. I performed it for several Forensics speech competitions (though I had to reduce my role to More, Cromwell and Norfolk). Some of the best dialogue ever written for any movie/play ever, and needless to say, great acting all around.
St Thomas More, pray for us
PInk77W1 2 months ago
@PInk77W1 Please, before you make such a whimsical plea, It may be worth remembering that Thomas More put people to the rack and had them burned alive, simply for OWNING a bible in English. Oh, and then he, for such barbaric acts, was made a saint. Jeez, if you Must Pray, pray to someone more worthy.
rrdab1 1 week ago
@rrdab1 u r completely mistaken. as usual. Notice how u didnt mention any law he broke. ST Thomas More, patron of politicians, pray for us. FYI i have his picture on my wall at home. peace
PInk77W1 1 week ago
@PInk77W1 So, you don't believe More had "heretics" tortured and burned? I suggest you research, he is one of the most cruel Inquisitors in history . But, you are correct when you say i didn't mention any law he broke ( I assume you are referring to his own death penalty). Well, laws were quite arbitrary, what the monarch wanted, he generally got. Only in 1936 was More made a saint and in 2000 made patron saint of politicians (quite apt really). Good film though.
rrdab1 1 week ago
@rrdab1 no i do believe he had heretics tortured and burned. if u follow your own suggestion u will find that was his JOB!!!!! I can c u dont believe in heretics which More kind of did. Heretics can ruin a country and England did not want their country ruined. So they killed the enemy. Not too hard to figure out really.
St Thomas More, pray for us
PInk77W1 4 days ago
I could watch this conversation for an hour just to watch those accusers squirm :D
FredDude27 3 months ago
Epic intellectual pwnage... Why can't today's people be this smart like Thomas More?
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xx9933yyzz 4 months ago
Excellent propaganda - but Thomas Moore also had people executed for owning or reading the bible in English.
Google "Tyndale Bible"
richo61 6 months ago
@richo61 Well this is a movie based on a play. It is, of course, going to have a protagonist and be told from a character's perspective--hardly propaganda. It is also misleading to say he executed people for reading the bible in English. His issues were with what he saw as inaccurate translations with the Tyndale Bible. As Lord Chancellor there were six heretics put to death, but this was hardly an uncommon practice for heresy at the time for Protestants or Catholics. Think Calvin.
plharn 6 months ago
@richo61 No one from this time was cuddly. When judging the character of a historical figure it is unfair not to consider the times he was brought up in - whether or not brutality and murder was socially commonplace.
NearVSMello 5 months ago
On this, the feast day of St. Thomas More, may those of us who follow in his footsteps see from his example, and know the lesson that those who do not learn from history ARE destined to repeat it.
The King's good servant, but God's first.
TheRjb2010 8 months ago
On this, the feast day of St. Thomas More, may those of us who follow in his footsteps see from his example, and know the lesson that those who do not learn from history ARE destined to repeat it.
TheRjb2010 8 months ago
Thumbs up if this film is in your personal Top Ten!
TheSnowballEarth 11 months ago 5
I performed this scene for a Forensics Speech Competition senior year of high school. Did pretty well too. Thanks for uploading this, it's complete brilliance in writing/acting and brings back a lot of great memories.
AllenbysEyes 1 year ago 2
@AllenbysEyes Didn't realize I'd already commented on this. LOL
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ruthamorneauvbt 1 year ago
"Thank you thomas, ive been trying to make that clear to his grace for quite some time"- hilarious!
milosbez 1 year ago
Great movie, and great scene. I just want to point out that the Duke has a horsie around his neck. Good Day!
AkhilleusWeeps 1 year ago
Wow, all three Thomases together!!!
akosigundam 1 year ago
@akosigundam Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the churchman at such an interrogation would have been the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Cranmer... So all FOUR Thomases together! Neat :)
kristina919 1 year ago
@kristina919: Good lord, no! What's with these 16th century Englishmen and their fixation for the name "Thomas"?
akosigundam 1 year ago
The voice is a wonder, because it isn`t public school. It isn`t sloane ranger, it isn`t BBC, it isn`t posh, it`s not even what folk would call classical. Unique and much missed.
transonicbuoy1 1 year ago
I love this music at the start. Wish I could find more like it.
Dranu86 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this scene, which is a flawless example of great writing, directing, and acting!
dseanmat 2 years ago 2
OH JUSTICE IS WHAT YOUR THREATENED WITH!!!!!!!
Then I'm not threatened.......
LOL!!!!!
Brilliant!!!!!
spasjt 2 years ago 20
This is my favorite scene of the movie. I performed it for several Forensics speech competitions (though I had to reduce my role to More, Cromwell and Norfolk). Some of the best dialogue ever written for any movie/play ever, and needless to say, great acting all around.
AllenbysEyes 3 years ago 6
Clever man - as was - St. Thomas More !
morgandrim 3 years ago 12