The way I see this is, both panelist are tackling two different subject. The AMNO goon was talking about Malaysian expat working overseas. TT, on the other hand, focus on those who gave up their citizenship. Let us be objective, do an independent (not that one done by goons at Talentcorp.) survey to really find out WHY. We might be surprised with their reasoning, as it is fact that each and every of us is driven by different cause; some may be personal, some political & some just pure economic.
Janganlah meremehkan perasaan dan pemikiran mereka yang berhijrah, bukan kerana politk, tapi kerana cuaca yang lebih selesa, masyarakat mat salleh yg cun, kerana ramai orang asia yang nak jadi mat salleh, dye rambut manchungkan hidung. Bila duit dah senang dapat dia tak kan kisah kan politik pak kaduk ke atau mat jenin . Betul politik pada mereka terlalu remeh temeh. Lagi pun mereka di sana dipanggil Sir, ata yes lov bukan pok chik, ha hha. faham dah tu
Wakil UMNO ni, rasanya dia tiada kawan bangsa Cina yang emigrasi..
Come on la, sampai bila lagi orang-orang tinggi UMNO mahu diskriminasi terhadap bangsa lain? -.- Kalaulah saya bangsa Cina/ India, pasti saya akan berpindah ke negara lain kerana semua orang memandang saya as 2nd class citizen!
Situasi immigresen di M'sia: Yang kaya, berpendidikan tinggi mahu keluar; yang miskin, pelajaran rendah macam bangla mahu masuk. Ketuanan Melayu memang sudah mencapai objektifnya sebab polisi itu menendang keluar yg kaya pandai, dan menarik masuk yg miskin bodoh ke M'sia.
Mahathir's racist policy of 'Ketuanan Melayu' have divided the Good people of Malaysia while at the same time he made sure he made himself and his family super RICH ......at taxpayers expenses and from Petronas.
Also the Biro Tata Negara program instil racism in the youths against non malays
Why the mad policy of dividing the people and instilling hatred when we should focus on economy and make the country a first class developed nation.
Bro Hisham ada benar di sini, faktor penolakan berada di Malaysia seperti tawaran pekerjaan dan gaji yang tidak setimpal, jadi luar negara adalah faktor penarik kerana ekonomi.
theres nothing wrong with the people or the country as such....its the govt. and the policy makers who are corrupt and practice racism............its a shame that theres no meritocracy in our country................shame on u for beating around the bush when u know the exact reason people move out of malaysia!
org migrate ke luar negara sbb nampak peluang yg lebih baik berbanding negara sendiri. kalau ada yg sampai melepaskan citizenship, obviously sbb ketidakpuashatian dgn dasar negara yg lebih byk menyusahkan daripada membantu potential mereka.
there's a lot of fx y ppl migrate fr msia..true..but lets think again usg an analogy. lets say msia is a father, n d country's condition is a child.if d father abuses the child, doesnt teach him hw 2 b a gd person, if the father neglects the child's need,wht'll happen?the child may end up as a criminal,drug addict..may become a samseng...that is the power of politics.it governs a country..n it will shape the country..if crime rate is high,min wage is low,things r expnsive..u knw who 2 blame..
memang banyak faktor.. ya agree... but before solving those, please at least give us, citizen a save country to live.. i don't feel secure to protect by police in malaysia... and when go back to origin, the main reason is rasuah... please wake up, i can only see the vision 2020 is the sick vision now...
memang banyak faktor. mungkin setiap dari 300ribu orang tu ada faktornya sendiri. di sini wujud faktor penolak dari dalam negara dan faktor penarik dari luar negara. tp kalau faktor2 tersebut sama berat 50-50, tak mungkin emigrasi ni wujud. tapi sebab faktor penolak/penarik yg lg tinggi, maka emigrasi wujud. dan faktor ini disebabkan oleh polisi negara.tak kira sebab gaji/merit/sosial/budaya/jenayah. polisi dan perlaksanaan negara yang membentuk faktor ini.
tok janggut , i used to work in london. the main reason why i worked there for few years was to gain more experience and good income. now i,m back happily running my own business in kl. have got nothing to do with politics. thats the answer. pls compare apple to apple.
itu aku tanya..kenapa kat malaysia good income takleh dpt...itu aku tanya...we already know the fact/effect...tp mesti ada punca/cause...jgn sempitkan pemikiran dan dengan menyembunyikan kebenaran dibawah ayat "thats the fact"
:) merapu untuk kebaikan takpe. government patut naikkan minimum wage. yg jadi masalah... bila minimum wage dinaikkan, company akan kurangkan jumlah pekerja maka lagi ramai org akan menganggur.
aku tatau minimum wage tuh apa sbnrnya(orang kampung mane reti wage2 ni)...hehehe...btw,aku pown tak stuju gak ngn mamat janggut tuh...bkn apa, dia macam meletakkan satu masalah dengan satu sebab saja.padahal "mungkin" masalah tuh berpunca dari pelbagai faktor...
itu la pasalnya. kdg2 org kita ni bila tau satu benda dia ingat dia dah tau semua.. dah tu sibuk nak complain tunjuk tak puas hati..kita anggap dia pandai sudah la engthku ya... mcm kita puji budak2 yg dah pandai cakap
@semangatnegara Hey you're talking your temporary stay that took place many years ago. The guys are discussing a recent event in which people are migrating in large numbers. Also please check the stats of this new migration, how many are Malay, Cina, India? They are mostly org Cina migrating to developed countries.
yg aku tak tahan org PKR ni asik ulang2 apa yang die cakap.. dan paling tak tahan skali adalah "disini ada ada tahap penurunan rasuah kita makin meninggi.." LOLZ..
tak payah nak tuduh pOlitik dan ketuanan melayu semata2 nak dapat undi bukan melayu.. tak payah nak mainkan isu2 perlembagaan sebab perlembagaan adalah undang2 tertinggi. kalau nak blah dari malaysia sebab ketuanan melayu blah. jgn jadi rakyat malaysia yang buta tentang sejarah
As far as i know 10 out of 10 of my friends who have migrated
did so because of the reasons Hishamuddin mentioned. There is no future for their next generation if the race based policies implemented by the malaysian govn. are not abolished.
brader hisham.....300,000+ mereka ni akan balik kampong untuk mengundi Pakatan Rakyat di GE13. Ramai juga drp 1 juta yg telah bermastautin diluar negara sebelum ni akan buat demikian. Ramai juga akan pulang ke tanah air jika faktor tolak - umno - tidak berkuasa lagi.
abg gemok tu sekadar nak menutupi hegemoni yg dier naungi skrg....mungkin dier punya pengalamn di luar negara..tapi thinking dier belom teruji jika hanya sekadar bercerite tentang pengalaman sedang dier lme kat sne. dier xtaw apa di sebalik emigrasi yg blaku kat malaysia. dier dtg sahaj sudah jadi pemuda. nmpk sgt bodek. nmpk sgt kne tiaw...
abg janggut...aku rse semua negara sama shaja apabila kita sedar bahwa dunia ini milik Tuhan...
The way I see this is, both panelist are tackling two different subject. The AMNO goon was talking about Malaysian expat working overseas. TT, on the other hand, focus on those who gave up their citizenship. Let us be objective, do an independent (not that one done by goons at Talentcorp.) survey to really find out WHY. We might be surprised with their reasoning, as it is fact that each and every of us is driven by different cause; some may be personal, some political & some just pure economic.
dean1812 2 weeks ago
fat boy has better argument.. sod off hishamudin rais..
sungaikantan 1 month ago
Wakil UMNO tidak menjawab menjurus pada isu & soalan.Hisham Hebat!.
masukanginkeluarasap 3 months ago in playlist Bong Master
Janganlah meremehkan perasaan dan pemikiran mereka yang berhijrah, bukan kerana politk, tapi kerana cuaca yang lebih selesa, masyarakat mat salleh yg cun, kerana ramai orang asia yang nak jadi mat salleh, dye rambut manchungkan hidung. Bila duit dah senang dapat dia tak kan kisah kan politik pak kaduk ke atau mat jenin . Betul politik pada mereka terlalu remeh temeh. Lagi pun mereka di sana dipanggil Sir, ata yes lov bukan pok chik, ha hha. faham dah tu
terbaliknya 6 months ago
Wakil UMNO ni, rasanya dia tiada kawan bangsa Cina yang emigrasi..
Come on la, sampai bila lagi orang-orang tinggi UMNO mahu diskriminasi terhadap bangsa lain? -.- Kalaulah saya bangsa Cina/ India, pasti saya akan berpindah ke negara lain kerana semua orang memandang saya as 2nd class citizen!
gadistibb91 6 months ago
Hishamuddin 100% tepat.
goosecouple 7 months ago
Situasi immigresen di M'sia: Yang kaya, berpendidikan tinggi mahu keluar; yang miskin, pelajaran rendah macam bangla mahu masuk. Ketuanan Melayu memang sudah mencapai objektifnya sebab polisi itu menendang keluar yg kaya pandai, dan menarik masuk yg miskin bodoh ke M'sia.
goosecouple 7 months ago
Kenapa hati diorang tak ade kat malaysia? Isu remeh ke?
sgwcyingko 7 months ago
Apa la Hishamudin Rais ni... Nak sentuh politik jugak...ntah apa2... Cetek giler pemikiran...
rolzamri 7 months ago
forum yang baik. moga moga kerajaan tak tersinggung oleh pandangan mereka. janganlah pulak guna ISA.
alimkudus 11 months ago
Umno fat boy won hands down lah.. Rais rambling mindless... fat boy had more substance, articulate and balanced.. Congrats fat boy! U da man!!
Lobarlobar 11 months ago
Mahathir's racist policy of 'Ketuanan Melayu' have divided the Good people of Malaysia while at the same time he made sure he made himself and his family super RICH ......at taxpayers expenses and from Petronas.
Also the Biro Tata Negara program instil racism in the youths against non malays
Why the mad policy of dividing the people and instilling hatred when we should focus on economy and make the country a first class developed nation.
MatSetia 1 year ago
Bro Hisham ada benar di sini, faktor penolakan berada di Malaysia seperti tawaran pekerjaan dan gaji yang tidak setimpal, jadi luar negara adalah faktor penarik kerana ekonomi.
muqay 1 year ago
Aku minat hisham nih. tapi kali nih hisham kalah la. mamat umno tu not bad la. sorry bro hisham
fukieyou123 1 year ago
theres nothing wrong with the people or the country as such....its the govt. and the policy makers who are corrupt and practice racism............its a shame that theres no meritocracy in our country................shame on u for beating around the bush when u know the exact reason people move out of malaysia!
shanthykrishnan1 1 year ago
org migrate ke luar negara sbb nampak peluang yg lebih baik berbanding negara sendiri. kalau ada yg sampai melepaskan citizenship, obviously sbb ketidakpuashatian dgn dasar negara yg lebih byk menyusahkan daripada membantu potential mereka.
cliptec 1 year ago
there's a lot of fx y ppl migrate fr msia..true..but lets think again usg an analogy. lets say msia is a father, n d country's condition is a child.if d father abuses the child, doesnt teach him hw 2 b a gd person, if the father neglects the child's need,wht'll happen?the child may end up as a criminal,drug addict..may become a samseng...that is the power of politics.it governs a country..n it will shape the country..if crime rate is high,min wage is low,things r expnsive..u knw who 2 blame..
drkanz 1 year ago
why is the UMNO guy not answering the question?
timothygyp 1 year ago
tiada isi yg intelektual dari hishamuddin...sekadar pengulangan point2 sejak awak pebincangan...
eden140580 1 year ago
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eden140580 1 year ago
memang banyak faktor.. ya agree... but before solving those, please at least give us, citizen a save country to live.. i don't feel secure to protect by police in malaysia... and when go back to origin, the main reason is rasuah... please wake up, i can only see the vision 2020 is the sick vision now...
yesABC 1 year ago
memang banyak faktor. mungkin setiap dari 300ribu orang tu ada faktornya sendiri. di sini wujud faktor penolak dari dalam negara dan faktor penarik dari luar negara. tp kalau faktor2 tersebut sama berat 50-50, tak mungkin emigrasi ni wujud. tapi sebab faktor penolak/penarik yg lg tinggi, maka emigrasi wujud. dan faktor ini disebabkan oleh polisi negara.tak kira sebab gaji/merit/sosial/budaya/jenayah. polisi dan perlaksanaan negara yang membentuk faktor ini.
matjenin789 2 years ago
hishamuddin rais semua nak kaitkan politik... padahal antara faktor org lari pasal crime rate msia yg makin teruk..
BurN368 2 years ago
crime rate y makin teruk sebab apa yek??takder kaitan dengan politik ka??
engthku 2 years ago
remember hisamudin rais
dulu wat movie kena banned, now come back...u got point here
arathas79 2 years ago
betol tuh,,mamat janggut nie ade point lah
exitstnc 2 years ago
politik remeh? akai ada? kalau remeh meh umno bagi pakatan pegang malaysia seround la.
ape kes ko citer psl engineer jadi ceo la, akauntan la. budus.
ko compare ngan china ke dude? c'mon la dude. buat malu je study 6 taun, kerja 8 taun kat overseas.
graveyard49 2 years ago 3
tok janggut , i used to work in london. the main reason why i worked there for few years was to gain more experience and good income. now i,m back happily running my own business in kl. have got nothing to do with politics. thats the answer. pls compare apple to apple.
semangatnegara 2 years ago
more experience and good income < ---- kenapa kat malaysia takleh dpt good income ke??kenapa kat malaysia takleh dpt good income yer??
engthku 2 years ago
experience boleh... income cannot compare. thats the fact.
semangatnegara 2 years ago
itu aku tanya..kenapa kat malaysia good income takleh dpt...itu aku tanya...we already know the fact/effect...tp mesti ada punca/cause...jgn sempitkan pemikiran dan dengan menyembunyikan kebenaran dibawah ayat "thats the fact"
hehehe...merapu sikijap
engthku 2 years ago
:) merapu untuk kebaikan takpe. government patut naikkan minimum wage. yg jadi masalah... bila minimum wage dinaikkan, company akan kurangkan jumlah pekerja maka lagi ramai org akan menganggur.
semangatnegara 2 years ago
hehehe...
aku tatau minimum wage tuh apa sbnrnya(orang kampung mane reti wage2 ni)...hehehe...btw,aku pown tak stuju gak ngn mamat janggut tuh...bkn apa, dia macam meletakkan satu masalah dengan satu sebab saja.padahal "mungkin" masalah tuh berpunca dari pelbagai faktor...
engthku 2 years ago
itu la pasalnya. kdg2 org kita ni bila tau satu benda dia ingat dia dah tau semua.. dah tu sibuk nak complain tunjuk tak puas hati..kita anggap dia pandai sudah la engthku ya... mcm kita puji budak2 yg dah pandai cakap
semangatnegara 2 years ago
@semangatnegara Hey you're talking your temporary stay that took place many years ago. The guys are discussing a recent event in which people are migrating in large numbers. Also please check the stats of this new migration, how many are Malay, Cina, India? They are mostly org Cina migrating to developed countries.
goosecouple 7 months ago
hm..
Ariji86 2 years ago
dua2 biul mereka bekerja di luar negara kerana teringin nak main snow wakakakkakakaa poor cunt
BenjaminStepen 2 years ago
yg aku tak tahan org PKR ni asik ulang2 apa yang die cakap.. dan paling tak tahan skali adalah "disini ada ada tahap penurunan rasuah kita makin meninggi.." LOLZ..
tak payah nak tuduh pOlitik dan ketuanan melayu semata2 nak dapat undi bukan melayu.. tak payah nak mainkan isu2 perlembagaan sebab perlembagaan adalah undang2 tertinggi. kalau nak blah dari malaysia sebab ketuanan melayu blah. jgn jadi rakyat malaysia yang buta tentang sejarah
fadzlyjb 2 years ago
i don't understand but yaayyy.. lol..
fakingthetuesday 2 years ago
The UMNO guy comparing us with China situation??
China is a VAST market. Media freedom and Internet filter wont stop entreprenureal oppurtunist to go there and mine the gold.
Once theyre done, theyre out of there....like Dubai.
Hes off topic by miles and just trying to counter Rais points all the way, unsuccesfully.
maranello55 2 years ago 14
fairlady
i think the UMNO guy is a little off the topic.
As far as i know 10 out of 10 of my friends who have migrated
did so because of the reasons Hishamuddin mentioned. There is no future for their next generation if the race based policies implemented by the malaysian govn. are not abolished.
lilyronnie 2 years ago 4
I want to go back, but like sravisashi says,
discrimination...
It is a good sign that they are giving out awareness to the general public :)
the next step is the action... HOW are we going to solve this? The root of the tree is too deep :(
urbanlord3 2 years ago 4
brader hisham.....300,000+ mereka ni akan balik kampong untuk mengundi Pakatan Rakyat di GE13. Ramai juga drp 1 juta yg telah bermastautin diluar negara sebelum ni akan buat demikian. Ramai juga akan pulang ke tanah air jika faktor tolak - umno - tidak berkuasa lagi.
alroychai 2 years ago 4
abg gemok tu sekadar nak menutupi hegemoni yg dier naungi skrg....mungkin dier punya pengalamn di luar negara..tapi thinking dier belom teruji jika hanya sekadar bercerite tentang pengalaman sedang dier lme kat sne. dier xtaw apa di sebalik emigrasi yg blaku kat malaysia. dier dtg sahaj sudah jadi pemuda. nmpk sgt bodek. nmpk sgt kne tiaw...
abg janggut...aku rse semua negara sama shaja apabila kita sedar bahwa dunia ini milik Tuhan...
TheBarrdark 2 years ago 4
great thinker
8petak8 2 years ago 2
yes
sravisashi 2 years ago
i will back home if there no discrimination!!!...Period..you fat guy stop bull shitting!
sravisashi 2 years ago 17
itu cara penyampaian dia bro..lagipun perkara2 camni lah kita patut gelabah..klu x, isu ni xkan masuk TV..
nak harapkan UMNO???
pelan mcm siput babi...ko pun setujukan kalu aku cakap siput babi tu binatang paling slow yg penah ko tgk???
ko suka??
jebatderhaka78 2 years ago 5
tp lek lah..org pun nk memhmi gk
hahaha
pokyemaster 2 years ago
thinker mmg cm2 byk benda nk ckp at one time
alchemistar 2 years ago 5
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uncle jambang ni asal gelabah sgt nih? satu2 la ckp.
budinol 2 years ago
dia nampak je menggelabah.. tapi fakta dia bagus ok!
harristhecavaliers 2 years ago 3