Patlabor II (english)

[tokinohito2012]

外人は極端にナチとか大戦とかそういうのないと理解できないの？

この翻訳は意味合いがだいぶ変わってる

[DBogable]

i am god

[Bobopoa]

Back when anime had more than moe blobs and 4th wall breaks in them. Is it better the way it's now? Does it serve a better purpose? I wonder...

[kurlobe]

Greatest philosophic conversation ever........

[Cdubzhappy]

patlabor any good? watched it when i was a kid and remember it being pretty boring, haven't bothered since

[piercecarradine]

@Cdubzhappy The series as a whole (and this movie more than anything) is definitely not aimed at kids. It's full of political commentary, consparicy theories and the narrative is far less fantastical and more down-to-earth than most mecha anime out there. It's a great series for those old enough to appreciate what it offers.

If you still just want to see hot mecha action, though, you're better served elsewhere ;-)

[Blastaar7]

@Cdubzhappy I saw this just when i was on the brink of maturity, so it held my attention, but watching it as an adult is certain to make it even better.

[crosswire40]

"What God Cannot Do, Man will Attempt" This is an amazing film.

[jandoa]

Translation is not good. In Japanese version, there is not any part reffering to Hiroshima!

[Blastaar7]

@jandoa then thats better since the japanese didn't even surrender after hiroshima or nagasaki. Not immediately. Even then there was an attempted coup when Hirohito finally decided to surrender.

[Kanuskiz]

Though made in 1993, this movie is set in 2002. And the theme is so relevant to the reality we live in. It's as if this movie predicted the 9/11 in 2001.

[zeguna]

people always tell me the Manga UK dub is better than the Honneamise dub, but I'm not really feeling it.

[randomdreamcastn64]

The manga dub of Patlabor with Peter Marinker as Goto is much better than the recent releases.

[Gazdatronik]

Hey Jimbegg. I need this version. I had it on VHS 10 years ago, but its gone. The only ones I can seem to find now are the Japanese versions, which is fine, or the redone English dub. I need your help! This version is rarer than I thought.

[JIMBEGG1]

@Gazdatronik I don't have an official store bought copy. I taped this off TV years ago, and it's missing the first 5-10 minutes.

[Danny77uk]

@JIMBEGG1 Wow that's an incredibly important part of the film to miss!

[loosifur]

@Gazdatronik you can get it at cd universe or ebay

[BizzLeVrai]

so true.

now it is getting real.

wow

[Haruhide86]

white people will never understand true japanese anime film.

[Hondaxstud82]

@Haruhide86

That's pretty ignorant to say. This dub was actually handled well and The dub actors conveyed there parts very well.

[fonarte]

@Haruhide86

Trying to bait eh?

[Haruhide86]

@fonarte what?

[alcaline14]

Never mention evangelion again!!! All that hype for nothing that shit pissed me off. I even watched the movies for a supposed end but that didn't come at all. On another note mobile suit gundam is good, any except wing

[hanson666999]

Awesome dialogue, very clever.

[DMHR100]

Patlabor 1 was good but this one is simply remarcable, the complexity of the plot, the montage, the music. Until today I can't uderstand it completely.

[bignick142]

This movie simply has two of the best scenes i have ever seen in a movie animated or live-action.The other one is where they show the soldiers.

[YuushaKaiser]

I've always preferred the english dub in the Patlabor movies.

I wish they still made anime movies this good.

Now they're all..I don't know..not very exciting story/art wise.

[loosifur]

they dont make great anime epics anymore what a joke huh

[gunsight04]

@loosifur

Gurren Lagann for all it's craziness can be classified as epic, but I think I get what you mean, the anime of the 80s and 90s was deeper on an artistic and story-based level.

[loosifur]

@gunsight04 yeah thats it

[gunsight04]

Patlabor 2 proves one thing: You don't need straight up blood and gore to make a film, whether live-action or animated, mature.

Also, Patlabor never tries hard to be complex like certain other anime *ahem* Evangelion *ahem*.

[KrypticGuy666]

Terrorist!!!1

[ElimRem]

the voice very much sounds like martin sheen, am i right? oh wait imdb

[Gazdatronik]

@ElimRem GOD YES THANK YOU. And Roy Scheider as Gotoh. Gotoh even LOOKS like Schieder. I think the actors were chosen on purpose.

[rootlessman]

It seems someone who put English dub excluded some phrase from and insert a sentence into the original video. Talking on WWII, those who won the war are always trying to justify themselves not listening to the others' voices.

[BenevolentEvan]

@rootlessman heh, you're right. the dub changed a ton of dialogue.

[BenevolentEvan]

@rootlessman But i don't think the original message is lost.

[rootlessman]

"What is peace meant for this country...effort and passion Japan put into the war ended in Hiroshima defeat and Americans came bringing their ###, nuclear deterrent ...."

*the original movie: ### = America's occupation

[rootlessman]

We lived our lives ... war, violence.

*After this phrase, a made up sentence is inserted.

[londinio]

i like this movie more now than before. when i was young i just fastforwarded to the robot parts.

this is a great movie though. I personally recommend the subtitled version. I've only seen one version in english and i wasn't happy with it personally.

I know it's the same movie but, the english version felt too talky.

[Solidusaka]

I normally would agree with you, but this film is one of the best dubbings of anime ever, maybe its just me

[uscolmrne]

Patlabor and Macross Plus had some of the best English dubbd I have ever seen in anime!

[housegroove76]

@Solidusaka I completely agree, this is by far the best dub ive ever heard. I was kind of mad when they changed the dub for the Blu-Ray release. Its still one of the best, but not the best that this is.

[Hondaxstud82]

@housegroove76

Thanks alot man I have been going back and forth on buying the Blu- Ray regular or the special edition and I love the Manga dub and I heard that Bandai made another dub and I couldn't get confirmation till today. Thanks sir. Should I just get the $80 Single Bluray or the $110 special edition? I am still gonna keep the Manga DVD :)

[Blastaar7]

@Solidusaka yeah it's a good dubbing. There are some movies out there that i'm just fine with watching in dub.

[Blastaar7]

Respond to this video...  argh. I fricking hate how they paint the US in a negative light. It's like "you guys attacked them! wtf".

[translation314]

well done. it makes you think...

[Wintermuted]

I highly recommend the Bandai Visual version of the dub. The Manga Video edition is far too on the nose, and doesn't flow quite as well, or is as poetic.

[SAFS38]

How to feel the voice is different in each country. ＾＾

[Shyhoulud]

This is one of my favourite Anime scenes. Normally I dislike watching stuff dubbed; but I make a marked exception for this. Excellent voiceover. Beautiful music.

[ArtBear88]

Hemmingway asked nearly the same questions in For Whom the Bell Tolls and finally the u.s. did bring its political mechinizations to the land like using the island as a launching pad for bombing runs in north vietnam which in turn put it in an ineffective stance against the political mechinizations of adverserial foreign govts like the ussr and north korea.

[WeissVogel]

"No, we dont' forget; we quite simply refuse to remember..."

Damn, Arakawa really hit the nail deep, speaking about the apathy of people who are unknowingly committing the same lapses that happened before. Some people will never learn, do they?

[MrDefaulto]

sorry to double post but,

Dubs are generally crap no matter what. THey just don't hire REAL actors to do anime anymore. It's always a bunch of young twenty-something nerds with all their same sounding scratchy high voices. None of them ever sound like the age of the characters they're portraying..

Just watch them subbed.

[MrDefaulto]

"an unjust peace is still better than a just war"

I'll have to agree after all. In war, there is murder. At least in peace, we can sit and choose to be at peace, even if we have to force that on others. I'd rather force evil warmongers to be at peace than to force good pacifists to murder in the name of a just war.

[MrHotSalt]

@MrDefaulto So its better to let tyrants rob you of your freedoms then to fight for them?

[chewface]

@MrDefaulto That is a damn fine point! I've never heard it put like that before. That is a very good argument against war.

[Black7Cloud]

@MrDefaulto But who is right? Who decides what you can't or can do? War can be justified if it's you who's on the receiving end.

[outlaw9012]

Is this the new or old english dub? which one is better?

[Boog609]

It's the older one. The newer one has a cleaner script as far as being close to the original Japanese track, but the voice actors almost sound bored with what they're doing - the actors for Arakawa and Goto in the older dub are definitely better.

[cyclonus0102]

The newer one does not make the movie's message as clear as this version does.

[ashigaru]

Maybe translaters thought that when American audience hear this dialogue they'll be likely to think of WW2, and considering WW2 is thought to be a just war widely in the states, translater had to put a counter argument that Nazi was ally for Japan, implying that Japanese have different perspective.

[ashigaru]

I find it interesting that the part about the just war is slightly altered in this translation.

In the Original movie Arakawa doesn't mention about the war against Nazi could be the just war.

The original quote could be translated "I share your defiance about the just war, since fellows who claimed such a cause were inhumans and the library of history is full of people who suffered by believing them."

[ynagamon]

Hiroshima? Atomic bomb? Hollywood? Chewing gum war?

あまり英語は聞き取れないけど、原作にない単語がたくさん出てる­。正しく翻訳してるのか、これは。

[BlaKSTaRZeYe]

What was the deal with the Chewing Gum War...I don't understand that...

[Black7Cloud]

Movies about war?

[SAFS38]

変えられてる可能性がありますね。　海外の声優さん日本とくらべて、まだまだ

発展途上ですし・・。

[ikaba]

sorry to complain again. the new english dub... really really bad for Arakawa especially. This scene in the new dub, absolutely powerless imo

thank god this version still exists

[ikaba]

this film is one of the best of the past few decades, anime or otherwise. and this scene is a masterpiece of cinema.

side note, the new english dub, though slightly more true to the japanese dialogue (i'm assuming from subtitles) really doesn't capture the same essence. even some of the music cues are different, or absent completely. Amazing nonetheless

Thanks for putting it up

[n15pca]

I going to buy the collection edition to this movie when I get a chance.

[SKFukuda]

This music is awesome

[DarkAvenger474]

This movie blows me away everytime I watch it. The music, sights and dialogues creates unforgettable scenes. I can clearly remember the first time I watched it... I was riveted to my TV set. Anyway, definetly on my top ten.

[n15pca]

Has far has the movies go Patlabor 2 the movie is the best of what Patlabor has to offer. I love the deep Polical and social stuff in it. The music also ready kicks butt. The song I love the most is Unnatural City. Just the parts alone when Shinobu Nagumo and Yukihito Tsuge are talking to each other in this movie is just priceless. It also helps when they are talking to each other in this movie they are playing the song Unnatural City in the background.

Thanks for this video.

[DigiMatt52]

And furthermore. Japan's wealth? That comes from us, the Americans. Why? History 101 for you - we bombed them with the big bombs to put a swift end to WWII. And then what did we do? We sent our own people to help get Japan back on their feet, which cost alotta money. We haven't asked for them to pay this debt and never will, and that is where Japan's ability to maintain wealth started, along with free market.

[kinggodzilla87]

maybe in show how good we can be

[greenmileofcurry]

and this is comment that came from someone who watches digimon.

[DigiMatt52]

Hrm. The voice actor for the weird-eyed guy is different, and they weren't so harsh on America. They imply that World War I and II as a "just war" is a bad thing, and that for the Americans to end WWII in a swift manner instead of letting it go on and on was a bad idea. Okay, Mr. Japanese authors, next time someone tries to take over the world, we'll just roll over and play dead.

[megadrummer3]

shut up, look at in their own perspective, look at it in a soldiers perspective. death and misery is never accepetable and no matter how just a war might be, the price and cost of it always exceed the value. But out of self-defence we must fight. But we can not forget the price it was paid.

[Dvon5000]

There's a growing historical consensus these days that the American decision to drop the bombs was influenced more by a desire to intimidate the Soviet Union than to bring a swift end to the war.

If anything, though, this film is condemning the illusory nature of post-war peace, and isn't so much concerned with the war itself.

[laury84]

Do you have any idea what a nuclear attack can do? here in Europe we have a slight recollection since the problems we had with nuclear power plants but a bomb.... it's something that will give you nightmeres for generations. Try to put yourself in their shoes.

[kinggodzilla87]

Best part of the movie sO deep

[blackbirdwives]

This scene is truly stunning. Mamoru Oshii is seriously under appreciated, Patlabor 1 and 2 and ghost in the shell are better than nearly all the films put on top 10 lists by critics.

[chewface]

I just got done watching the movie....for the first time in a long time.....and it gave me goosebumps. Good, for the beautiful, aesthetic value this scene contains......and fearful....of the immense amount of truth the conversation contains. I saw this movie before 9/11....the writers knew what they were talking about. And some day....we will all be punished.

[UserNameTaken3]

Best part of the movie.

[greenmileofcurry]

i dun get the part...after what he said about god punishing ppl. can someone interpret this for me...?

[newsradiohead]

Brilliant and prophetic film. This basically anticipated the current age of terrorism almost ten years before 9/11

Basically, it's saying that at the shaky base of the peace and prosperity we enjoy are the billions of people whom we rob of their resources or ignore when their suffering isn't germane to our national interest.

This is something that in time would be punished either by divine justice (i.e. God) or a human egomaniacal enough to mete out such punishment.

[gatotsu911]

Or, specifically, to claim himself as being an instrument of God. Which, of course, is exactly what's happening.

[thegoodgeneral]

I absolutely love 1 and 2. The original English dubbing (they were re-dubbed and re-released a decade or so later) of those two were very good; arguably better than the original Japanese voices. Patlabor 3 wasn't that good, unfortunately.

And great music from Kenji Kawai.

[cyclonus0102]

I have been waiting for this to be put on in English. Thanks!