Anyone who supports Guam gaining independence from America is being a naive fool. Yes, it is important that Guam retains its culture and language, but becoming independent is not something the economy can afford. Look at the nations that surround Guam--CNMI, Palau, Chuuk. Quality of life in all of those places outside the U.S. is significantly lower. Culture and pride is great, but it doesn't have to be connected to ignorance. Develop Guam's industry and economy then ask for independence.
We can disagree. I support the Chamorro people having the right to choose their relationship with the US. We don't have to choose Independence. We can choose Free Association, Commonwealth, Statehood or Independence. Now explain to me why has all these other nations been given the right to choose and not Guam? Our islands are used for ONLY one thing...MILITARY! They won't invest in any industry, besides TOURISM. What can you build on a 30 mile long island?
There is nothing wrong with the people of Chuuk, Palau, CNMI or any other distant relatives of ours in the Pacific. You look down on them for what? Because we are more "Americanized" than them? I think you forget what happened in WWII. We were liberated by the US carpet bombing and killing more Chamorro's than those killed by Japanese under their control. Native Hawaiians know how democracy worked out for them.
I believe strongly the people of Guam have the right to choose their relationship with the U.S. In 2001, when I was in high school, I gave a presentation on the U.N. mandate for non-self-governing territories to choose their association and I am aware of this injustice. Statehood would be ideal, but could only potentially occur if Guam was grouped with U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, & the Marshall islands, which isn't ideal. Commonwealth would be acceptable.
No. There is no way that we will become a state. Was statehood the best option for the Native Hawaiians? I don't think so. There is NO way that we can become a state. Commonwealth, so like the CNMI. Guam had its chance to join their brothers and sisters in Saipan, TInian and Rota, in the commonwealth but chose against it. Would it make sense to have two separate commonwealth in the same archipelago?
I do not look down on the people of other Micronesian Islands. However, I do not envy their economic situation, healthcare, or the extent of their infrastructure. Pride is great, but Guam's future should not be determined by anger towards injustice inflicted on us by the United States Government. Instead what's best for Guam's future--both culturally and economically should guide our future because economy brings roads, healthcare, and everything else.
Hmm...I wonder how our ancestors lived without any infrastructure, healthcare, technology, etc. I know we don't live anywhere near that, nor do I think we will ever go back to that. What you are telling me is that whichever option that brings the most money, is the best option for Guam. I guess the military build-up is our salvation then. Oh wait, most of that money will be spent on the military base, not the community.
By economic development, I did not mean short-term influx of money like a military build up. For example, Guam spent a lot of time and effort (decades and thought out planning) developing its tourism industry. The people of Guam could spend time and effort building up a different industry. I do not know what is ideal, perhaps something utilizing our U.S. outpost location to get involved in more importing/exporting with Asia. Seek independence after we can support ourselves
The ancient Chamorro people also didn't overfish areas to extinction or dump trash. What I'm saying is that thinking about what we're doing culturally (like overfishing) and industrially (nothing) will affect Guam's future. Being angry at the military doesn't fix our biggest problems such as where to build the new JFK or how to keep skilled workers and managers on island.
Chamorro people are not American. We are AUSTRONESIAN. We belong to that lineage, not America. We need to stand on our own. We are too dependent and we cannot grow because of that. We are colonized in our minds. We were once free, our ancestors fought for their freedom. We continue to be under control. "Stand Ye Chamorro", yes...lets stand and be independent.
Yeah, and America isent doing crap to save whats left of "our" language... Our culture and language will be completely dead withen 2 generations I would guess... No one is trying to save it or teach it to their kids... My family speaks Japanese here on the mainland America... =P
As-salaam alaikom li kull Guamani, warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Bismillahir rahmaanir rahim. allah yirhamak wa al-hamdo il-lah. Allah yirhamak li8-ajl bilad el-Mariånas, mithl kull guamani wa Saibani(manaotao Saipan). Ana yalla Guamani wa ana ma Muslimah. Inshaallah!
Lyrics to the anthem: Fanohge Chamoru put i tano'-ta Kånta i ma tunå-ña gi todu i lugåt. Para i onra, para i gloria Abiba i isla sen parat. Para i onra, para i gloria Abiba i isla sen parat. U todu i tiempo i pas para hita Yan ginen i langet na bendesion. Kontra i piligru, na'fansåfo' ham Yu'os prutehi i islan Guåhan. Kontra i piligru, na'fansåfo' ham Yu'os prutehi i islan Guåhan.
i dont think i will ever leave this island! PROUDE TO BE A CHAMORRO!!!!
chechcruz93 2 months ago
Hafa Adai from California!!!!! Love you Guam!!!!
ilovciel 3 months ago
hafa adai from oregon :)
mattguerrero22 8 months ago
Biba Guåhan!! \:D/ Håfa from the Philippines!
FyReByRd8 1 year ago
God bless Dr. Sablan for composing this song.
SnuggleBear1970 1 year ago
hey chamorros
mystery6584 1 year ago
Anyone who supports Guam gaining independence from America is being a naive fool. Yes, it is important that Guam retains its culture and language, but becoming independent is not something the economy can afford. Look at the nations that surround Guam--CNMI, Palau, Chuuk. Quality of life in all of those places outside the U.S. is significantly lower. Culture and pride is great, but it doesn't have to be connected to ignorance. Develop Guam's industry and economy then ask for independence.
dalauder 1 year ago
@dalauder
We can disagree. I support the Chamorro people having the right to choose their relationship with the US. We don't have to choose Independence. We can choose Free Association, Commonwealth, Statehood or Independence. Now explain to me why has all these other nations been given the right to choose and not Guam? Our islands are used for ONLY one thing...MILITARY! They won't invest in any industry, besides TOURISM. What can you build on a 30 mile long island?
nesianboy 1 year ago
@dalauder
There is nothing wrong with the people of Chuuk, Palau, CNMI or any other distant relatives of ours in the Pacific. You look down on them for what? Because we are more "Americanized" than them? I think you forget what happened in WWII. We were liberated by the US carpet bombing and killing more Chamorro's than those killed by Japanese under their control. Native Hawaiians know how democracy worked out for them.
nesianboy 1 year ago
@nesianboy
I believe strongly the people of Guam have the right to choose their relationship with the U.S. In 2001, when I was in high school, I gave a presentation on the U.N. mandate for non-self-governing territories to choose their association and I am aware of this injustice. Statehood would be ideal, but could only potentially occur if Guam was grouped with U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, & the Marshall islands, which isn't ideal. Commonwealth would be acceptable.
dalauder 1 year ago
@dalauder
No. There is no way that we will become a state. Was statehood the best option for the Native Hawaiians? I don't think so. There is NO way that we can become a state. Commonwealth, so like the CNMI. Guam had its chance to join their brothers and sisters in Saipan, TInian and Rota, in the commonwealth but chose against it. Would it make sense to have two separate commonwealth in the same archipelago?
nesianboy 1 year ago
@nesianboy
I do not look down on the people of other Micronesian Islands. However, I do not envy their economic situation, healthcare, or the extent of their infrastructure. Pride is great, but Guam's future should not be determined by anger towards injustice inflicted on us by the United States Government. Instead what's best for Guam's future--both culturally and economically should guide our future because economy brings roads, healthcare, and everything else.
dalauder 1 year ago
@dalauder
Hmm...I wonder how our ancestors lived without any infrastructure, healthcare, technology, etc. I know we don't live anywhere near that, nor do I think we will ever go back to that. What you are telling me is that whichever option that brings the most money, is the best option for Guam. I guess the military build-up is our salvation then. Oh wait, most of that money will be spent on the military base, not the community.
nesianboy 1 year ago
@nesianboy @nesianboy
By economic development, I did not mean short-term influx of money like a military build up. For example, Guam spent a lot of time and effort (decades and thought out planning) developing its tourism industry. The people of Guam could spend time and effort building up a different industry. I do not know what is ideal, perhaps something utilizing our U.S. outpost location to get involved in more importing/exporting with Asia. Seek independence after we can support ourselves
dalauder 1 year ago
@nesianboy
The ancient Chamorro people also didn't overfish areas to extinction or dump trash. What I'm saying is that thinking about what we're doing culturally (like overfishing) and industrially (nothing) will affect Guam's future. Being angry at the military doesn't fix our biggest problems such as where to build the new JFK or how to keep skilled workers and managers on island.
dalauder 1 year ago
aww i miss living in Guam, although it's no place for a ginger..
anothervirtamundo 2 years ago
Even though guam is under american control, it would be awesome if they joined america...but if not i been to guam on vacation BEAUTIFUL
that's why i want it a state
deathtobill5 2 years ago
Chamorro people are not American. We are AUSTRONESIAN. We belong to that lineage, not America. We need to stand on our own. We are too dependent and we cannot grow because of that. We are colonized in our minds. We were once free, our ancestors fought for their freedom. We continue to be under control. "Stand Ye Chamorro", yes...lets stand and be independent.
nesianboy 2 years ago
Yeah, and America isent doing crap to save whats left of "our" language... Our culture and language will be completely dead withen 2 generations I would guess... No one is trying to save it or teach it to their kids... My family speaks Japanese here on the mainland America... =P
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
@nesianboy as soon as you admit you are Micronesians
islandkingent 1 year ago
@islandkingent
I don't have a problem with that. Call me an Austronesian, Micronesian, Polynesian...whatever you want to call it.
nesianboy 1 year ago
BIBA GUAHAN!!
Raycia92 3 years ago
this song rules
XvreeperkidvX 3 years ago
As-salaam alaikom li kull Guamani, warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Bismillahir rahmaanir rahim. allah yirhamak wa al-hamdo il-lah. Allah yirhamak li8-ajl bilad el-Mariånas, mithl kull guamani wa Saibani(manaotao Saipan). Ana yalla Guamani wa ana ma Muslimah. Inshaallah!
karelingab 3 years ago
? strange anthem OLIVIA much BETTER
GalladGil 3 years ago
Biba Guahan!
rayz671 3 years ago
Lyrics to the anthem: Fanohge Chamoru put i tano'-ta Kånta i ma tunå-ña gi todu i lugåt. Para i onra, para i gloria Abiba i isla sen parat. Para i onra, para i gloria Abiba i isla sen parat. U todu i tiempo i pas para hita Yan ginen i langet na bendesion. Kontra i piligru, na'fansåfo' ham Yu'os prutehi i islan Guåhan. Kontra i piligru, na'fansåfo' ham Yu'os prutehi i islan Guåhan.
FyReByRd8 3 years ago
Pas mal
chiuahua25 3 years ago