Trent reznor is an amazing producer, He's changed a lot in the last ten years but i always highly respect him and love all his music. Of course the Downward spiral was where nin was at but listen to the music he's capable producing.
This is more than a song to me, it's like a prayer. It's something we can aim to be in our lives yet at the same time it allows for the inevitable failures we face with the line "was I raised to be lowered?"
Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was referring to his lyrical content. And I'm sorry but it sounds nothing like broken/pretty hate machine era NIN. I'm sure I'm not alone on that.
Leave it to a Canadian to know nothing about music.
At first I admired this song, for commenting on the phenomenon of a people whose forefathers worked so hard for their liberation, self destructing to violently, and futilely.
But now I think this song can be seen in a wider sense. As the the world is slowly being claimed by a new aristocracy, are we all to descend back into tyranny? Were we raised to be lowered? Were we given our freedom and human dignity, only to give it away to the highest bidder?
Possibly so. To me one of the major things about listening to music is about the personal experience and the memories connected. I bet those who made this had many reasons, a complex thing... Did the track notes have any about it? This song has grown on me past weeks but I don't listen to the album every day any more =) Happy it brings you those thoughts, I respect brains in others.
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This song works so well as an expression of modern malaise and helplessness of the modern man. Especially the American modern man (were we raised as freemen to be lowered back into tyranny?).
Why someone gave this comment a thumbs down i don't know, but i do agree that a lot of "hip hop" today has turned into mainstream rap mtv bullshit with meaningless lyrics that took maybe 10 minutes to come up with. saul's work is an excellent example of what hip hop should be and stand for.
I'm just discovering SW through the NIN connection - been trying to get into rap recently and I've gotta say hes the first really interesting artist I've heard. Is anyone else doing stuff this good/clever?
Great music. Listening to this brings me back to The Fragile... excellent stuff. It's funny, when I got into Reznors' music in 99 I felt like I was getting in late. It was really just the beginning.
The beginning?? They released 3 platinum albums, 2 remix albums a slew of singles within the 10 years prior to your discovery of Trent Reznor's music. I'd say you WERE getting in late.
People like this are annoying. "I'm cooler than you cause i knew about it before you!" There is more than 2 remix albulms too, get your facts straight before you make a sad attempt for self validation.
I never said shit about being cooler or better than anyone, I was just saying it's rediculous to suggest they were just "getting started" in 99. Jeez, relax a little.
Because i've heard much of King Saul's work, I have to say that His album would've been great with or without Trent. I'm glad that they combined forces because this one song here is pure platinum.
fuck obama, fuck pelosi, fuck ried, fuck nepolitano! give me back my freedoms!!!!!!
rivethead999 1 year ago
Trent reznor is an amazing producer, He's changed a lot in the last ten years but i always highly respect him and love all his music. Of course the Downward spiral was where nin was at but listen to the music he's capable producing.
nickabokka 1 year ago
just dl'ed album, its really a great piece, such a good duo
kasrit 2 years ago
This is more than a song to me, it's like a prayer. It's something we can aim to be in our lives yet at the same time it allows for the inevitable failures we face with the line "was I raised to be lowered?"
JennieMPC 2 years ago
WIT YA COME!!!
antjuanoden 2 years ago
man, i love saul williams' poetries...
But when thinking of him doing music, Trent Reznor is the last person i would have thought him collaborating with...
But it is a perfect combination - aside from straight up tribal drumming of course.
absolutely perfect in imperfection!
choreograffiti 2 years ago 2
Shit, nice lyrics!
InsectRoyalty 3 years ago 2
Werd... ONE!
strict9mind 3 years ago
or maybe...he is an musician who is trying to send a strong message to us...hmmm maybe its music....i think im going to listen to it and enjoy it.
pslipy 3 years ago 2
Despite what many detractors may say, Saul Williams is ahead of his time. Anyone who disagrees with this is one of "them" and not one of us. Period.
fumunshu 3 years ago
ahead of his time..?
this sounds like early 90s NIN with a bit of flavor to it...don't get me wrong, this track is great, but...it's nothing new, and nothing gripping.
seems to me you're like one of the people you're trying so hard to not be.............
SaeberONE 3 years ago
Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was referring to his lyrical content. And I'm sorry but it sounds nothing like broken/pretty hate machine era NIN. I'm sure I'm not alone on that.
Leave it to a Canadian to know nothing about music.
fumunshu 3 years ago
right.
and I'll leave the arrogant comments to bitter old men like you. Get a hobby. This hardly constitutes as one.
SaeberONE 3 years ago
Agreed.
NeonSaurian 3 years ago
At first I admired this song, for commenting on the phenomenon of a people whose forefathers worked so hard for their liberation, self destructing to violently, and futilely.
But now I think this song can be seen in a wider sense. As the the world is slowly being claimed by a new aristocracy, are we all to descend back into tyranny? Were we raised to be lowered? Were we given our freedom and human dignity, only to give it away to the highest bidder?
Jcolinsol 4 years ago 8
Possibly so. To me one of the major things about listening to music is about the personal experience and the memories connected. I bet those who made this had many reasons, a complex thing... Did the track notes have any about it? This song has grown on me past weeks but I don't listen to the album every day any more =) Happy it brings you those thoughts, I respect brains in others.
vurtuality 4 years ago 3
I've not made up my mind on this yet.. downloading the album so I can . hehe.
ritualfunk 4 years ago
Trent did a good job on producing this album. I like this shit it reminds me how much I hate the man and what a joke the government is.
applicator3000 4 years ago
this music is refreshing, i luv it...new to it too! fuck! im amazeded.
themindfuck 4 years ago
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Tursed 4 years ago
This song works so well as an expression of modern malaise and helplessness of the modern man. Especially the American modern man (were we raised as freemen to be lowered back into tyranny?).
Jcolinsol 4 years ago 7
Excellent, way to put it "Raised to be lowered into tyrants!"
I think that's pretty much sums up how culture emphasizes values that aid more to our destruction than liberation.
sagetosomeone 4 years ago 3
This song isn't on the album I downloaded from his website, wierd, it's fantastic!
etymradic 4 years ago
Uhhh, this is on the album, track 14.
HaphazardJoy 4 years ago 2
BRING ON THE ART!
Bremsstrahlung1 4 years ago
So glad Rez is workin with Saul, gives me more NIN-like music. Love it
Y34RZ3R02022 4 years ago 2
That background music starting around 35 seconds sounds so familiar, but I can't place it. I think it's sort of like "Hyperpower" from Year Zero...
213millst 4 years ago
I think some of that is discussed over at saulwilliams. com, unless the song-by-song notes has info on that?
vurtuality 4 years ago
Thanks for the info. I'll head over there now to check it out. I listened to Hyperpower and it's exactly the same. :)
213millst 4 years ago
Album is awesome. This is what it would sound like getting Trent to record a rap track. Real, quality rap of course, not the crap from today.
liquid1122 4 years ago
Why someone gave this comment a thumbs down i don't know, but i do agree that a lot of "hip hop" today has turned into mainstream rap mtv bullshit with meaningless lyrics that took maybe 10 minutes to come up with. saul's work is an excellent example of what hip hop should be and stand for.
strictlycalloused 4 years ago 20
I'm just discovering SW through the NIN connection - been trying to get into rap recently and I've gotta say hes the first really interesting artist I've heard. Is anyone else doing stuff this good/clever?
happysmellyfish 3 years ago 2
OutKast is pretty good if you like rock but have started listening to rap.
NeonSaurian 3 years ago
Try the Roots, and Wu-Tang Clan.
butihavenone 3 years ago 2
The Roots, totally! Another good one is Busdriver.
XombiePuma 1 year ago 3
@XombiePuma The Roots can't really ever be recommended enough.
Nireves33 11 months ago
dex jux!
Blinkingts 2 years ago
@happysmellyfish Atmosphere, The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, Eyedea (right up to his death man), Brother Ali, The Grouch & Eligh...
the1produkt 1 year ago
Very good, I'm really in love with it and I've only heard a few songs.
deathneedslove 4 years ago
Great music. Listening to this brings me back to The Fragile... excellent stuff. It's funny, when I got into Reznors' music in 99 I felt like I was getting in late. It was really just the beginning.
GeoffChang 4 years ago
The beginning?? They released 3 platinum albums, 2 remix albums a slew of singles within the 10 years prior to your discovery of Trent Reznor's music. I'd say you WERE getting in late.
hobopowerlazer 4 years ago
People like this are annoying. "I'm cooler than you cause i knew about it before you!" There is more than 2 remix albulms too, get your facts straight before you make a sad attempt for self validation.
iagentrevi 4 years ago
I never said shit about being cooler or better than anyone, I was just saying it's rediculous to suggest they were just "getting started" in 99. Jeez, relax a little.
hobopowerlazer 4 years ago
You, iagentrevi, are a moron.
Draykid 4 years ago
You, Darykid, receive a hello.
Jlbcrash 4 years ago
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YOU DUMBASS NIGGA
Draykid 4 years ago
;.;
Jlbcrash 4 years ago
Indeed.
Jlbcrash 4 years ago
Well I'm not going to be an elitist prick or anything, but hobo does have a point, NIN were gaining a fanbase and popularity long before The Fragile.
strictlycalloused 4 years ago
Ha, yes - I think I mostly ignored NIN after The Downward Spiral, and it's still one of the bands I listened to the most past decade-and-a-half.
vurtuality 3 years ago
Amazing fucking album.... Trent is a genius.
JennWright 4 years ago 2
Saul's album is great. Thank Trent.
DownwardSpiral84 4 years ago
Because i've heard much of King Saul's work, I have to say that His album would've been great with or without Trent. I'm glad that they combined forces because this one song here is pure platinum.
_ Peace.
isareturns 4 years ago 2
Yep, as they keep saying - a collaboration. As Saul keeps saying - 'it's just the way I wanted it to be'.
vurtuality 4 years ago