I love the direction Cage the Elephant is going in. It's weird because a while back, I didn't like them at all. But the more I listened to them, I just started relating and understanding their music. It's amazing how well they combine everything. Cage the Elephant may be my all time favorite band.
The comment that talks about Borderlands is the one that tells us not to do it... so it must be sarcasm... or irony... perhaps hes just being witty.. or maybe and this is just a thought, maybe hes an idiot. :D
@camwatson100 All based on opinion my friend. I mean, they are great... But I cannot say they are 100% the best... But what do I know, I listen to just about any music genera you can think of...
@22hulahula me too, I like that you can actually understand what they are saying, you can`t understand it in most of the bands :) I hope you understood the message :)
Did anyone get to see their tour with Sleeper Agent? I fell in love with this band.. their new album Celebrasion is awesome, and its only 5 bucks on Amazon!!
guys..... borderlands is a great game, right with it but.......CTE=/=borderlands, seriously guys..... comment the music here, you can speak about the place of the song in borderland 1 in there's aint no rest for the wicked but not on ALL of there songs, seriously..... its just stupid, remember this band isn't named borderlands.
@CadeWadkins, they do. I saw them a few months back at the Vic in Chicago. Great show, he really enjoys crowd surfing and allowing the crowd to go up on stage and mess around. At the end he jumped off 15 foot speakers into the crowd, it was fantastic
Can people stop associating this band with Borderlands? I'm sick of it, the game came out at least a year ago when I bought it but I like CTE before that. Cage the Elephant is its own band and just because it's in one game doesn't mean it's the only song in the game. I won't deny this has brought allot of attention to the band but please people, figure out why everyone truly likes the band, for music. 'Nuff said.
@xIrishHDI Just deal with it. People also spam "Not ready to Die - Avenged Sevenfold" videos about Black Ops. It's easier just to ignore it. I personally do think that they should put Cage the Elephant in Borderlands 2, mainly because their style fit the game so much. Also, considering that the majority of the main antagonist enemies in borderlands 2 are going to be robots, this song is perfect. I Don't have enough space in this to put all my thoughts on that in one comment, so good day.
OMG I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS. The best part is that they formed in 06. Could... could this mean.... potentially a '10 era of actual, GOOD music?? OMGOSH i hope so. I really really do. Cage the Elephant ftw :D
hey... me and my friends love CTE and do our best to keep rock alive... we are writing our own songs and need lots of criticism... we are very young artists... heres our link /watch?v=ClG5jf4DFLg
To anyone reading this comment, Shake Me Down is a nomination for best Rock Video for the MTV Video Music Awards, please vote for these guys on MTV's website. These guys put their heart and soul into their music and deserve the award. So please make this message visible or at least spread the word. Let's make Cage the Elephant the next big band. Thanks :D
@TheCowSyndrome The only thing that made Borderlands worth the purchase a little, was the fact that Cage The Elephant did the theme music :) What a worthless hyped game.
@bonelessflea why because their making music thats different and actually good. unlike most modern music where all the sounds come from a computer, also theyre lyrics have meaning. what a concept. good music, damn i didnt think that was made any more.
@ssjack97 Different? Haha I disagree with that. Its just the vocals. Its catchy at best. They got you because you think you can "relate" to the content. Yes, hipsters, look at the drummer for Christ sake. He wears a scarf in all of the vids.
@anthony92stevens yes different did you not read my comment they dont make their music having a computer do all the work and no they got me cause they make good music.
@Biebermyballs99 yes, but if you listen to them im pretty sure that you will like them.
I wasnt saying that everyone that likes Cage the Elephant KNOWS the hives. I was was saying that everyone that likes CtE and knows The Hives likes both.
like, ok, you haven't listened to The Hives. That doesnt mean you don't like them.
darn, thought it was an actually video, haha, but cant be mad cause its still an awesome song... though i think an animation could do this song justice as a video...
Matt himself said he found the name "Cage The Elephant" on the back of a cereal box. It was a "trace the dots game, when you traced all the dots it caged the elephant" He thought it was creative and stuck with it :P
The band name "Cage the Elephant" is actually from a random guy who came running up to them. The guy was screaming "cage the elephant, we need to cage the elephant"...That's the meaning of it. You can find it in videos/interviews
The are AMAZING live. they were my first concert ever and i will never forget how matt looked at me before he jumped into the crowd and landed on my head :D ah! I LOVE CTE! <3 and i got my phone autographed by Jared! it was beastly
The are AMAZING live. they were my first concert ever and i will never forget how matt looked at me before he jumped into the crowd and landed on my head :D ah! I LOVE CTE! <3
i talked to the band after a show, cage the elephant comes from a childrens puzzle toy where you have to " cage the elephant" to win; i have also heard them say this on the radio after. They did an interview with preston and steve on 93.3 wmmr that confirms this
Kourtney Love!!! (2:41)
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great band, kinda reminds me of The Intenational Noise Conspiracy... cool attitude!
rodrigomanzo777 1 week ago
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great band, kinda reminds me of The Intenational Noise Conspiracy... cool attitude!
rodrigomanzo777 1 week ago
great band, kinda reminds me of The Intenational Noise Conspiracy... cool attitude!
rodrigomanzo777 1 week ago
28 people got scared and still are
MsDaniellemorales 1 week ago
I love the direction Cage the Elephant is going in. It's weird because a while back, I didn't like them at all. But the more I listened to them, I just started relating and understanding their music. It's amazing how well they combine everything. Cage the Elephant may be my all time favorite band.
Isxeck 1 week ago 6
The comment that talks about Borderlands is the one that tells us not to do it... so it must be sarcasm... or irony... perhaps hes just being witty.. or maybe and this is just a thought, maybe hes an idiot. :D
MercWithTheMouth1 2 weeks ago
Love this band!!! No-one seems to know them in my friend group -.-
Wolf22283 2 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Cage the Elephant
@Wolf22283 Same shit here dude :(
MrLegostar9 1 week ago
shut up. Cage will destroy you and crucify non believers
SSaunders9999 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@jesuslindo97
I said the former GN'R, as in pre- '93. I wholeheartedly agree with you though
camwatson100 3 weeks ago
When you got fired up! when you got fired up!
youngpatriot1776 1 month ago
CAGE!!! no need to say more
SlowdPickles 1 month ago
@SlowdPickles and THE ELEPHANT
TheLigitGamerrrrr 1 month ago
what does he say at the start
34stickman1 1 month ago
Talented, Adorable, Hilarious, ...... I'm in love w/ this band (:
NINJAMUFFINHARTSU 1 month ago
@camwatson100 All based on opinion my friend. I mean, they are great... But I cannot say they are 100% the best... But what do I know, I listen to just about any music genera you can think of...
ManiacalTerror 1 month ago
I heard enough, sorry. The former Guns N Roses is still the best rock and roll band to date.
camwatson100 1 month ago
@camwatson100
to date? i dont think that.. its my opinion axel is fucking destroyed mora than ozzy
with out slash its not guns and roses axel just keep the name of the band
jesuslindo97 3 weeks ago
RAWR NOM NOM NOM..... SHIT THE ELEPHANT GOT OUT OF ITS CAGE!!!!
TheJordanGraff 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Cage the Elephant
I like cage the elephant more like this they're turning more to pop
22hulahula 1 month ago
@22hulahula me too, I like that you can actually understand what they are saying, you can`t understand it in most of the bands :) I hope you understood the message :)
kiks740 1 month ago
BONER !!!!
MrLegostar9 1 month ago
i used to be a tinny little robot, but then i took an arrow to the knee!!!
iatemeatwad 1 month ago
I like his skirt
mybunnyisapimp 1 month ago
Did anyone get to see their tour with Sleeper Agent? I fell in love with this band.. their new album Celebrasion is awesome, and its only 5 bucks on Amazon!!
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1279 is barve as a robot!
YourMusicHQ 2 months ago
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YourMusicHQ 2 months ago
thats just like the time i was in 'nam
TheChewy7 2 months ago
no, YOU'RE a robot.
rubnaus 2 months ago
28 PEOPLE ARE SCARED
krazykidd601 2 months ago
Best song by this group by far...
itsallgood239 2 months ago
no one does rock better
firedudetwo 2 months ago
The singer of this band looks like Dexter ._.
TheOtterisntworking 2 months ago
@TheOtterisntworking He looks like Kurt Cobain
DarkmasterSeshi 2 months ago 3
@DarkmasterSeshi he actually kinda does
hutch356 2 months ago
@TheOtterisntworking omg :O your right
kiks740 1 month ago
guys..... borderlands is a great game, right with it but.......CTE=/=borderlands, seriously guys..... comment the music here, you can speak about the place of the song in borderland 1 in there's aint no rest for the wicked but not on ALL of there songs, seriously..... its just stupid, remember this band isn't named borderlands.
DARMification 2 months ago 16
@DARMification borderlands? borderlands.
gdog48001 1 week ago
I'd imagine, that based on pics, they put on a really good show.
CadeWadkins 2 months ago
@CadeWadkins, they do. I saw them a few months back at the Vic in Chicago. Great show, he really enjoys crowd surfing and allowing the crowd to go up on stage and mess around. At the end he jumped off 15 foot speakers into the crowd, it was fantastic
AktivityNow 2 months ago
these guys really bring good stuff. all there music has a little of that classic rock feeling.
zzboy82 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Cage the Elephant
!:48 makes me think of Led Zeppelin
molovesrhcp1 2 months ago
@molovesrhcp1 1:48
molovesrhcp1 2 months ago
Borderlands sux! Fallout is much,much,much,much,muuuch better!
Xerxes2113 3 months ago in playlist Favourite Hits
@Xerxes2113 both are great games but i like fallout more because i do have to my knowledge over 900 hours of gameplay
mangareader299 2 months ago 2
@mangareader299 a bit exaggerated....37 days
chromeman6 2 months ago
@chromeman6 trust me i have no life :'L
mangareader299 2 months ago
@mangareader299 Aye, 2 Lv. 30's and around 500 hours brought me to the same conclusion.
Xerxes2113 1 month ago
Love this song! CTE, Swingfly and Obsidia 4eva! :D
Xerxes2113 3 months ago
Can people stop associating this band with Borderlands? I'm sick of it, the game came out at least a year ago when I bought it but I like CTE before that. Cage the Elephant is its own band and just because it's in one game doesn't mean it's the only song in the game. I won't deny this has brought allot of attention to the band but please people, figure out why everyone truly likes the band, for music. 'Nuff said.
xIrishHDI 3 months ago
@xIrishHDI Just deal with it. People also spam "Not ready to Die - Avenged Sevenfold" videos about Black Ops. It's easier just to ignore it. I personally do think that they should put Cage the Elephant in Borderlands 2, mainly because their style fit the game so much. Also, considering that the majority of the main antagonist enemies in borderlands 2 are going to be robots, this song is perfect. I Don't have enough space in this to put all my thoughts on that in one comment, so good day.
T0XiiCKiTTEN 3 months ago
Why do I think of borderlands every time I listen to cage the elephant
Doodorz 3 months ago 2
@Doodorz Because of "Ain't no rest for the Wicked"
Benjaaa1997 3 months ago
@Doodorz because one of their most awesome songs is featured in the begining thereof.
alemirdikson 3 months ago
@alemirdikson So...Am I, like, the only CTE fan who DOESN'T like Ain't No Rest for the Wicked?
Valkodu 3 months ago
@Valkodu ... probably =O lool ..
NINJAMUFFINHARTSU 3 months ago
@Valkodu probably
hipplz76 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Cage the Elephant
@hipplz76 I mean, it's not that I think it's a bad song, but it's definitely not the best on the album.
Valkodu 3 months ago
@Valkodu Showing that you dislike a band's most popular song doesn't really prove anything.
MrRedEspiritu 2 months ago
@MrRedEspiritu I'm not trying to prove anything.
Valkodu 2 months ago
@Valkodu i am
frenchdude909 2 months ago
@Doodorz Because the concept of a greedy vault hunter willing to kill anyone for a reward fits perfectly along with the song "No rest for the wicked"
T0XiiCKiTTEN 3 months ago
Can't wait to see these guys!
jonojo 3 months ago in playlist Big Day out 2012
whats up with the very begging? I love it
TheMostdope5 4 months ago
26 people are robots! :P but we ain't scared!
MeanGreenMother123 4 months ago
@MeanGreenMother123
Shut the fuck up and enjoy the song, funny guy.
SlightlyRotated 3 months ago
The World Dominant Species Tiny Little Robots ;D
univeralmusic97 4 months ago in playlist White people
@univeralmusic97
What kind of a playlist is that?
njehlov 3 months ago
0:13 Hawt.
SquishTheLish 4 months ago
OMG! the advert for this video was for nirvana! matt schultz, kurt cobain. coincidence? i think not...
Tarzipan58 4 months ago
im scared.
cykotoxick 4 months ago 79
I gave this song a thumbs down because i was disappointed. I thought it would be a song about actual robots. Sad face..
faolan1313 4 months ago
2:41 impending fail...
Tarzipan58 4 months ago
This band reminds of fall so much for some reason. I LOVE IT
Rockdude311 4 months ago
@Rockdude311 I find Back Against The Wall reminds me the most of fall
uzumakinaruto246 4 months ago
@uzumakinaruto246 because of the colors.
trx4trees 4 months ago
OMG I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS. The best part is that they formed in 06. Could... could this mean.... potentially a '10 era of actual, GOOD music?? OMGOSH i hope so. I really really do. Cage the Elephant ftw :D
JuzAbro2 5 months ago 35
@JuzAbro2 lol ikr
ilovefinn96 5 months ago in playlist Cage the Elephant
@JuzAbro2 I would love to see CTE leading the '10 era of music but I'm thinking dubstep is gonna be the music of this era it's getting big fast :P
NeonGreenCarl 4 months ago in playlist Cage The Elephant
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hey... me and my friends love CTE and do our best to keep rock alive... we are writing our own songs and need lots of criticism... we are very young artists... heres our link /watch?v=ClG5jf4DFLg
sockerfanatic 5 months ago
What in the fuck is wrong with his nipples?
Cloud87man 5 months ago
@Cloud87man
Are you scared?
An0maly96 5 months ago
@An0maly96 yes
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RocksRevenge 5 months ago
i kno your tired of this cuz your a robot they designed your life
strjones 5 months ago
"CHAINS ACROSS YOUR SHOULDERS SOCIAL CAPTIVATION"
KILL OUR LEADERS
"YOU GOTTA CAGE THE ELEPHANT"
JOEBROWN08 5 months ago
00:15 something shanon moon would do...
rgv2006tx 5 months ago
Lol remember when this video had less than 10,000 views...This is the good CTE
itsallgood239 5 months ago
if you have ever seen them live, you would never even compare them to the hives. more like nirvana
MultiRyantv 5 months ago 5
LOLLA!!!!!!
MachiminaGaming 5 months ago
Did Cobein reincarnate?
1980dank 5 months ago
REALLY B.A !!!!!
joesnuke1 5 months ago
Cage the Elephant for Borderlands 2?
TheCowSyndrome 5 months ago 74
@TheCowSyndrome Hell yeah!!!
mailloux13 5 months ago in playlist Cage the Elephant
@TheCowSyndrome gunzerker looks amazing i mean duel weilding any weapon for a short time just cool
unsupervisedyouth 5 months ago
@TheCowSyndrome The only thing that made Borderlands worth the purchase a little, was the fact that Cage The Elephant did the theme music :) What a worthless hyped game.
Shizzle1708 3 months ago
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How about Cage The Elephant IN Borderlands 2? =D
kingkimber08 3 months ago
@TheCowSyndrome more like borderlands 2 for cage the elephant
96TGOD69 3 months ago
24 ppl are scared
violentjoe 5 months ago
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KillingLiars 6 months ago
rock and roll ain t dead!
goldknit94 6 months ago 2
im all ready on the other side
40mtndew 6 months ago
hey mathew i hav loved u since u wer a plumber thanx again for fixing my moms toilet
hotemochik1 6 months ago
@hotemochik1 He did your mothers plumbing did he?....dirty :P
IrishRhavin 6 months ago
i have the same hoodie as him at 1:30 lol
Louisville111111 6 months ago
you say who is cage the the elephant and why are they called that? i say it is rock and punch you in the face
knaanlilwayne 6 months ago 2
the knew british invasion
knaanlilwayne 6 months ago
@knaanlilwayne wrong the new american invasion of tha world!
thadaytrippa91 6 months ago
saw these guys at blusfest last night. AWESOME
TheHungryhamburger 6 months ago 2
@TheHungryhamburger I know Right, They fuckin Boss
iGodzZv2 6 months ago
wait i want to fire up green to.....
inlover565 6 months ago
READY TO GO FIRE IT UP
DaSillyBanana 6 months ago 5
silly hipsters..
bonelessflea 6 months ago
@bonelessflea why because their making music thats different and actually good. unlike most modern music where all the sounds come from a computer, also theyre lyrics have meaning. what a concept. good music, damn i didnt think that was made any more.
ssjack97 6 months ago
@ssjack97 Different? Haha I disagree with that. Its just the vocals. Its catchy at best. They got you because you think you can "relate" to the content. Yes, hipsters, look at the drummer for Christ sake. He wears a scarf in all of the vids.
anthony92stevens 6 months ago
@anthony92stevens >mfw I look over at the video for Back Against the Wall and the drummer isn't wearing a sweater.
Moot point, pointed out.
LauroRuizJr 6 months ago
@LauroRuizJr >mfw neither of us has a face.
unkilabelevable 6 months ago
@unkilabelevable you win an internet for that.
LauroRuizJr 6 months ago
@LauroRuizJr Funny how you said >mfw and then ended off with Moot point :V
unkilabelevable 6 months ago
@anthony92stevens yes different did you not read my comment they dont make their music having a computer do all the work and no they got me cause they make good music.
ssjack97 5 months ago
@ssjack97 wasnt talking about the band smart guy
bonelessflea 6 months ago
SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC
Samiie19 6 months ago 4
Seeing them tomorrow at Summerfest with The Black Keys :D
timmah638 6 months ago 3
@timmah638 I'm seeing them tonight at Ottawa Bluesfest with The Black Keys :D
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stanleyfreeze2011 6 months ago
is cage the eleephant a bang thats used alot in borderlands
lamofify 7 months ago
@lamofify yes
Deadfox7777 6 months ago
@lamofify Only twice
Zimphomania 6 months ago
i would love there to be a 1984 themed action music video for this
KidWithABulletSoul93 7 months ago
Best live band ever, stood on by Matt twice during sabertooth tiger, as well as once during this kick ass song.
Atlbluedevil 7 months ago
2:08 my fav part!
jennysmomma 7 months ago
I saw them last summer. Sweet crowed surfing!
jennysmomma 7 months ago
No rest for the wicked 5 million+ views
This half million views
jacob868 7 months ago
@jacob868 yeha and there mainstream shit itsint as good as there non mainstream music
lazycuy11 7 months ago
@jacob868 So what, I'm just happy I heard it.
SkrappzKNA 7 months ago
matt should have left his hair short
TheAsshole227 7 months ago
@TheAsshole227 yes
cindyfresh83 7 months ago
I saw them on Sunday and they rocked! Matt stage dived the audience in. Almost felt, twice and kept on singing. They are awesome! <3
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brathcoreenfield 7 months ago
The Hives can suck it... cage the elephant is the truth
bananainmytailpipe 7 months ago 81
@bananainmytailpipe we understand that you like, but not discriminatory of other equally great bands.. :P
seromakful 7 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe The Hives isn't that bad... CtE is just better
sithmastur 6 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe WTF
You're like, the first person I know that like cage the elephant but doesnt like The Hives...
why dont you like the hives?
nge1301 6 months ago
@nge1301 i dont even think i heard the Hives LOL
Biebermyballs99 5 months ago
@Biebermyballs99 yes, but if you listen to them im pretty sure that you will like them.
I wasnt saying that everyone that likes Cage the Elephant KNOWS the hives. I was was saying that everyone that likes CtE and knows The Hives likes both.
like, ok, you haven't listened to The Hives. That doesnt mean you don't like them.
Got it?
BTW listen to The Hives. lol
nge1301 5 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe they're both beast but Cage The Elephant is better
TheBullfrogMassacre 5 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe i realy like the hives.
paintedshut 4 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe I LLLUUUVVVV them both :) call me crazy ..
NINJAMUFFINHARTSU 4 months ago
@bananainmytailpipe the hives own it man , as much as cage the elephant
t0msk8 4 months ago 2
@t0msk8 I've never heard of the hives.
ityup36 4 months ago
i see them tomorrow at the showbox sodo! SO freakin excited!
laina4bacon 7 months ago
@laina4bacon Totally going to that concert too!
blgunter09 7 months ago
anyone else see a hives resemblance here?
joseph240791 7 months ago
I'm scared.
oDEADLYPSYCHOo 7 months ago
thank god i can see them next saturday on pinkpop :D
Joppie119 7 months ago
yes i can officialy say i am here because of borderlands <3
Warlock27rp 7 months ago
@Warlock27rp Ha alright I am too, but I have become a true obsessed fan :)
deadeye146 7 months ago
claptrap!!!! i am leaking i am leakingaaaah
xaver4561 7 months ago 139
@xaver4561 sounds like claptrap revolution
sidebones 3 months ago
this song rocks
racistskittles 7 months ago
this song is ... AWESOME!
danjo141 7 months ago in playlist music
darn, thought it was an actually video, haha, but cant be mad cause its still an awesome song... though i think an animation could do this song justice as a video...
iatemeatwad 8 months ago
this song is tight as fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk
itsallgood239 8 months ago
Matt himself said he found the name "Cage The Elephant" on the back of a cereal box. It was a "trace the dots game, when you traced all the dots it caged the elephant" He thought it was creative and stuck with it :P
NeonGreenCarl 8 months ago
@NeonGreenCarl Lolno. They had a hobo screaming WE MUST CAGE THE ELEPHANT outside of one of their shows.
KidRemedy 8 months ago
The band name "Cage the Elephant" is actually from a random guy who came running up to them. The guy was screaming "cage the elephant, we need to cage the elephant"...That's the meaning of it. You can find it in videos/interviews
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The are AMAZING live. they were my first concert ever and i will never forget how matt looked at me before he jumped into the crowd and landed on my head :D ah! I LOVE CTE! <3 and i got my phone autographed by Jared! it was beastly
YoImLinda 8 months ago
The are AMAZING live. they were my first concert ever and i will never forget how matt looked at me before he jumped into the crowd and landed on my head :D ah! I LOVE CTE! <3
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macaylasierra22 8 months ago
@CoolJohnDog Actually they mean the verb - "Cage". spin .com / articles / why - theyre - called - cage - elephant
InfiniteNightmareX 8 months ago
matt <3 <3 <3
emojumper134 8 months ago
im a robosexual towards matt
Mgs4ownshalo3 8 months ago 3
i wonder if this would convince cleverbot?
P3RSONALVEND3TA 8 months ago
You know this song was made to get high and watch this
senunkid 8 months ago
@TheSmirf18 More german? French time! Vous etes la grosse vach du tabarnak!
BraedonBrad 8 months ago
so fkin sick.... wave of the future! there real too, signed autographs at the E factory in philly for over an hour
MrJscarfo99 8 months ago
i talked to the band after a show, cage the elephant comes from a childrens puzzle toy where you have to " cage the elephant" to win; i have also heard them say this on the radio after. They did an interview with preston and steve on 93.3 wmmr that confirms this
MrJscarfo99 8 months ago