Brilliant thanks for uploading. One thing I liked seeing was the commentators holding up their phones at 2:53 to get the roar of the crowd when Shorter crosses the finish. The sound of those commentaries on the olympics and other big sporting events abroad was really something special. It just doesn't sound the same today
Shorter was WAY better than Pre. Shorter has TWO medals, and his WORST finish was 5th, and Pres BEST finish was FOURTH. Sure, Pre could beat him in a 5k, but he had to go all out to do it, and for any race longer than 5k, Shorter DESTROYED Pre.
@VirenKickedPresAss He was also 24 when he died. Not even at the prime years of his life. Dick. And for someone that hates Pre on every running video, it sure seems like you know a hell of a lot about him.
Thought the film might show the imposter who ran into the stadium ahead of Shorter. At the end of the film, it also looks like an imposter on the podium in third LOL.
Notice Shorter's restrained celebration when he wins. I'm guessing he wanted to keep his victory celebration subdued to honor the slain Israeli athletes.
Whose gonna fill Shorters shoes? The Americans currently have Ryan Hall and Dathan Rathzestein or whatever, but they cant run with the Kenyans, and it just sucks.........
I'm sure Ryan has the best chance so far, being that he has the second fastest marathon time by an American (American Record held currently by Khalid Khannouchi who is Moroccan-born), and the American Record for the half marathon (which was his first ever half I believe). As opposed to Ritz, I don't think he'll have the chance, because you always find him injured.
2:12 to win an Olympic Marathon, by a guy who had never run sub 2:12 before. Not sure why Clayton and Hill, who had done 2:09 dropped off so badly - was it the heat? Altitude?
Mamo, you were a thrice-medaled Olympian, imprisoned for a decade on a disputed charge, who gained release, only to die weeks into freedom anew.
May I speak freely, Mamo? Given this, where is the grace, the sense of kinship among all living things, the worldview gained from calculating the orbit of one's own soul whilst kept within the artifice of prison walls?
I ask: Befit it a Citizen of Planet Earth thus to utter "bullshit" and "got his ass kicked," to use but two of your milder terms?
Yes, Peerless...Mamo won by over 4 minutes in 1968....incredible...just as his teammate, the immortal Abebe Bikila was.
Despite being innocent, he never gave back hatred...only forgiveness, light and love. His is an exalted spirit, soaring above the small thoughts and feelings of so many, but always grounded in love and humility. Now his great light shines in eternity......
That sounds so funny and unbelievably bizarre said by someone from the US, since the americans are the biggest and the dirtiest doped cheaters of all times in track & field, not mentioning many other sports that they ruined all the way by their cheating cunts who litterally stole away hundreds of olympic/world competitions medals and victories .....!!
Sort of like Martti Vainio in the 1984 Olympics right? Someone who was too stupid to realize that his blood doping ,when introduced back into his system, would have the steriods he injected prior.
Well...Most talented distance runners in 70`s was actually Henry Rono and Lasse Viren. Shorter was number 1 in marathon. All time list is Nurmi, Zatopek, Viren, Gebrslelassie, Clarke(5-10km). Marathon: Bikila, Shorter, Lopes.
Henry Rono was arguably the greatest runner in history who never ran in the Olympics. Kenya boycotted the '76 Games (as had most African nations due to a ridiculous boycott opposing New Zealand's decision to enter the rugby World Cup in South Africa) and the '80 Games because of the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan.
Did anyone find out how to get the entire race on DVD or VHS with sound? I don't remember the announcer who did the entire race but the announcer was as classy a man as Shorter. The whole race would be great to view because of the music by Chuck Mangioni called grey clouds or rainning clouds...something like that.
Hi, in 72 the announcer was Eric Segal. The chuck mangione music, and yes, well, down was 76 in Montreal! I remember appreciating the music in the recap. Dark and rainy day/evening. I remember Bily Rogers more or less bumming out, Lasse Viren taking 5th, and Karel Lismont JUST edging out Don Kardong. It was a great Marathon in Montreal. Not as good as Munich, of course.
well said about Pre and Shorter. I was 11 and watched Shorter win the Gold and I have never forgotten that race and remember it was viewed live, the whole race nothing interuptted it.
Shame about the end of the race. Don Kardong said it best when he introduced Frank Shorter as the man who was "twice preceded into the Olympic stadium by a German imposter." It's disgraceful to see how many internet sites praise Cierpinski then add his drug taking as a footnote (if at all). Disgusting.
halo I'm looling for a movi about a women , she finish marathon but on her "last feet" a see the image but I can't see her name , If you can halp it will be fantastic ;)
Pre and Shorter were both great in their own events. Its ashame Pre died so young. We shouldn't be arguing who was better. We shouild aknowledge the both for their accomplishments. They were friends and thats how we should remember them.
Thanks for sharing this video. My father ran this Marathon, he is the guy who takes the sponge on 1:03. I have seen this video before, and talked to him about it. I showed it to him and to my children. Very inspirational.
completely agree with you 1Mile... Shorter, Viren and Yifter, in my opinion, were the greatest middle distance runners of the 70's (5K and above)... you could also include Billy Rodgers, but not in the Olympic context
Nope, not true. Pre turned running into a religion in the US and the folklore lives today. Ask a casual sports fan who Frank Shorter is, maybe 3 out 10 know. Ask 'em was PRE, and I think they'll ALL know. Yes Frank has Gold & Silver, but Pre died when he was reaching his peak, he waa 4 years younger than Shorter. Pre held ever AR from 2,000 to 10,000 meters. Shorter was great, but never held a single AR in an Olympic distance
I think Pre was one of the great ones, but Pre was known mainly for his constant winning in the U.S, for his rebelious demeanor, and sadly for dying in a car crash so young. Internationally, Pre was an unknown. He never broke a world record. Shorter, in the meantime, was winning 10K races in Europe while Pre was breaking college records in Oregon. Shorter truly crafted how marathon running should be tackled.
Pre was known for a lot, winning races, gutty performances, being a rebel & advancing the cause of US athletes. Don't kid yourself, the Europeans knew him, but you forget until the '78 Amateur Sports Act the AAU had control over an athlete's status, Shorter too. They decided where an athlete was to compete and the AAU got the money. Pre wanted to run against the best but the AAU had him at USA/USSR meets. Pre said US athletes needed welfare to live. He helped end "shamatuerism."
I got this clip from a old VHS I had. It's called Olympiad--Marathon. It's a documentary of all the marathon victories up to the point of the video release. I converted it to my computer, however for some reason I couldn't get the sound to work when I put it on YouTube.
This is great. I have posted a much shorter clip taken from the same film footage as your clip. My hunch is these segments are from the movie Visions of Eight. The director John Schlesinger made this segment, called "The Longest." Of course, this could be from a Bud Greenspan documentary, as well. The man in the wheelchair is Abebe Bikila. A German foundation flew him to the games. He is heavier and bearded, so does not look like the he did in his marathon days.
Was that man in the wheelchair (0:16) Abebe Bikila? I heard that Bikila watched the '72 Olympic marathon and Shorter, out of respect for the now paraplegic Bikila, didn't break his record.
I heard Bikila gave the gold medal to Shorter in the ceremonies and that Shorter admitted later that he felt humbled by this. Frank admired and worshipped the great Ethiopian as one of his idols.
Sorry, no that's some kind of urban legend. Abebe was invited as a special guest to the 1972 Olympics in Munich where he witnessed American Frank Shorter win the marathon. After Shorter received his medal he went to Bikila to shake his hand, so it was after he fact, but Shorter did respecy him a great deal.
Frank Shorter is my hero. Pre had style, but Shorter delivered when it counted most. And to come back and win silver in '76 -- simply amazing. The guy knew how to prepare.
Best part about this was Shorter couldn't do the commentary cause he was in the race.
kozmon0t 1 month ago
officerdepfife 5 months ago
Wow I think that's Abebe Bikila in a wheelchair at the start? 0:16
duncr 10 months ago 2
Brilliant thanks for uploading. One thing I liked seeing was the commentators holding up their phones at 2:53 to get the roar of the crowd when Shorter crosses the finish. The sound of those commentaries on the olympics and other big sporting events abroad was really something special. It just doesn't sound the same today
duncr 10 months ago
I was happy and honored to have seen (on live tv) a fellow American (Shorter) win this marathon. I was still in junior high school!
TheAssasin2525 11 months ago
Shorter was WAY better than Pre. Shorter has TWO medals, and his WORST finish was 5th, and Pres BEST finish was FOURTH. Sure, Pre could beat him in a 5k, but he had to go all out to do it, and for any race longer than 5k, Shorter DESTROYED Pre.
VirenKickedPresAss 1 year ago
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thISxTHplacE 1 year ago
@VirenKickedPresAss He was also 24 when he died. Not even at the prime years of his life. Dick. And for someone that hates Pre on every running video, it sure seems like you know a hell of a lot about him.
thISxTHplacE 1 year ago
@thISxTHplacE And yet ANOTHER WHINER for Pre! Does everyone notice that Pre supporters:
1) need a bag for their sweatsuits
2) Need a bag for their shoes
3) Need a bag for all of their EXCUSES for why he got his ass kicked! LMMFAO!
VirenKickedPresAss 1 year ago
Hi, Frank Shorter was the best!
jck9506 1 year ago
Thought the film might show the imposter who ran into the stadium ahead of Shorter. At the end of the film, it also looks like an imposter on the podium in third LOL.
ollie705 1 year ago
metronome.
niwersa 1 year ago
Notice Shorter's restrained celebration when he wins. I'm guessing he wanted to keep his victory celebration subdued to honor the slain Israeli athletes.
Sherpaful 1 year ago
Who's 'Pre'?
caravaggio31 1 year ago
@caravaggio31 wow...
hollywoodundead4eva 1 year ago
man he didn't just win the marathon, he destroyed all his competition!
fr3ckles 1 year ago
They edited the fun part out!!!!
adelfred 2 years ago
wtf? some of them don't even seem that tired
drclown 2 years ago
i know.....they've ran and trained so hard that their bodies' have become beast lol
sendinfox14 2 years ago
Whose gonna fill Shorters shoes? The Americans currently have Ryan Hall and Dathan Rathzestein or whatever, but they cant run with the Kenyans, and it just sucks.........
rmrooster01 2 years ago
I'm sure Ryan has the best chance so far, being that he has the second fastest marathon time by an American (American Record held currently by Khalid Khannouchi who is Moroccan-born), and the American Record for the half marathon (which was his first ever half I believe). As opposed to Ritz, I don't think he'll have the chance, because you always find him injured.
Raimakusa 2 years ago
look out for galen rupp
toby099 2 years ago
2:12 to win an Olympic Marathon, by a guy who had never run sub 2:12 before. Not sure why Clayton and Hill, who had done 2:09 dropped off so badly - was it the heat? Altitude?
scobuli 2 years ago
Not two Marathons are equal. Not even one same course will render same performances. Unetani also ran terribly bad, after winning Boston in 2:13.
crlbertone 2 years ago
Does anybody know what Frank ran in high school, or how he progressed in college?
crackadownsouth 2 years ago
frank ran 3:50 mile's at age 12
toby099 2 years ago
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you are joking right?
CorrerPorVida 2 years ago
there's no way
sendinfox14 2 years ago
lol ya sure
StaleBread12 2 years ago
thats not true
MultiRunnerDude 2 years ago
in his biography he says that his PR for his junior year of high school was 4:44
MultiRunnerDude 2 years ago
Some basic facts:
1. This was the 1972 Olympic marathon. Viren took part in the 1976 Olympic marathon (he was 5.)
2. Doping was illegal already in 1972 and 1976 Olympic games. Viren was never tested positive.
3. Blood doping wasn't illegal in Olympic games until 1988.
4. There is absolutely no real proof that Viren used blood doping.
5. Viren was injured one month before 1980 Olympic games in Moscow, so his preparation to those games was far from perfect (he was 5th in the 10k).
specialist34535 3 years ago 2
1.viren wasnt injured in 80'. he just got his ass kicked.
2.You said do[ing was illegal in 72. then you say its illegal in 88?
3 you suck black cock
4.shut the fuck up
mamowolde 2 years ago
Mamo, you were a thrice-medaled Olympian, imprisoned for a decade on a disputed charge, who gained release, only to die weeks into freedom anew.
May I speak freely, Mamo? Given this, where is the grace, the sense of kinship among all living things, the worldview gained from calculating the orbit of one's own soul whilst kept within the artifice of prison walls?
I ask: Befit it a Citizen of Planet Earth thus to utter "bullshit" and "got his ass kicked," to use but two of your milder terms?
PeerlessPaavo 2 years ago
Yes, Peerless...Mamo won by over 4 minutes in 1968....incredible...just as his teammate, the immortal Abebe Bikila was.
Despite being innocent, he never gave back hatred...only forgiveness, light and love. His is an exalted spirit, soaring above the small thoughts and feelings of so many, but always grounded in love and humility. Now his great light shines in eternity......
bumblebeemoi 2 years ago
yeah fuck viren!!!
omarxcpre 3 years ago
Very true, Viren blows.
Offspring1337 3 years ago
Viren & all the finns were doped cheaters ??
XDDDD .......!!!!
That sounds so funny and unbelievably bizarre said by someone from the US, since the americans are the biggest and the dirtiest doped cheaters of all times in track & field, not mentioning many other sports that they ruined all the way by their cheating cunts who litterally stole away hundreds of olympic/world competitions medals and victories .....!!
Typical US pathetic and ridiculous attitude
Trulyloyale 3 years ago 2
Viren did dope, he couldnt have qualified for the olympics if he hadnt
meester6178 3 years ago
Sort of like Martti Vainio in the 1984 Olympics right? Someone who was too stupid to realize that his blood doping ,when introduced back into his system, would have the steriods he injected prior.
crwnikeboy 2 years ago
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hallelujah praise Jesus always and every day!!!! :):)
STARNPRODUCTIONS 2 years ago
i just wish i could run half as fast
brillant
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asifsmartie 3 years ago
Pre lives.
weemackee 3 years ago 8
Shorter lives too
utopia1024 3 years ago 3
Well...Most talented distance runners in 70`s was actually Henry Rono and Lasse Viren. Shorter was number 1 in marathon. All time list is Nurmi, Zatopek, Viren, Gebrslelassie, Clarke(5-10km). Marathon: Bikila, Shorter, Lopes.
rytkonen 3 years ago
Henry Rono was arguably the greatest runner in history who never ran in the Olympics. Kenya boycotted the '76 Games (as had most African nations due to a ridiculous boycott opposing New Zealand's decision to enter the rugby World Cup in South Africa) and the '80 Games because of the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan.
kingwilson06ad 3 years ago
Viren is a cheater and so are all the fins they were all blood dopers. Kinda sad they had to cheat and ruin their rep.
smurphdog32 3 years ago
I think Viren would have won this race
if 5000 metres wouldn´t been at the same day.
Those speeches of doping are rubbish.
You are just jealous.
FinnMove 3 years ago
I agree, once doping was made illegal, viren didnt finish in the top 4 for the 5000m, kind of a big fall after winning gold the previous olympics
meester6178 3 years ago
he was also about 32 though
mrcatohead 3 years ago
yeah, and yifter was 40. no bullshit
mamowolde 2 years ago
Did anyone find out how to get the entire race on DVD or VHS with sound? I don't remember the announcer who did the entire race but the announcer was as classy a man as Shorter. The whole race would be great to view because of the music by Chuck Mangioni called grey clouds or rainning clouds...something like that.
dwadeprodigy3 3 years ago
Hi, in 72 the announcer was Eric Segal. The chuck mangione music, and yes, well, down was 76 in Montreal! I remember appreciating the music in the recap. Dark and rainy day/evening. I remember Bily Rogers more or less bumming out, Lasse Viren taking 5th, and Karel Lismont JUST edging out Don Kardong. It was a great Marathon in Montreal. Not as good as Munich, of course.
yaknbo 3 years ago
Pre and Shorter were 2 of the greatest male distance runners in the 70's. Long live Shorter and Pre!!! Amen!!!
LeanaJo76 3 years ago 8
well said about Pre and Shorter. I was 11 and watched Shorter win the Gold and I have never forgotten that race and remember it was viewed live, the whole race nothing interuptted it.
dwadeprodigy3 3 years ago 2
Pre was an American hero.
Too bad Nike has done their best to capitalize on his greatness in their ads for their own corporate profits.
zenmachinefilms 3 years ago
Nah, it's not. Good for Nike. Good for profits and good for capitalism.
yaknbo 3 years ago
@LeanaJo76 one name you fail to mention is Gerry Lindgren .... He was "Pre" before Pre was....
TheRunningPoet 3 months ago
Shame about the end of the race. Don Kardong said it best when he introduced Frank Shorter as the man who was "twice preceded into the Olympic stadium by a German imposter." It's disgraceful to see how many internet sites praise Cierpinski then add his drug taking as a footnote (if at all). Disgusting.
chrismca 4 years ago 3
halo I'm looling for a movi about a women , she finish marathon but on her "last feet" a see the image but I can't see her name , If you can halp it will be fantastic ;)
eoe1985 4 years ago
Pre and Shorter were both great in their own events. Its ashame Pre died so young. We shouldn't be arguing who was better. We shouild aknowledge the both for their accomplishments. They were friends and thats how we should remember them.
smurphdog32 4 years ago 2
Is that Lismont number 56 I think?
Was he in the orange at the medal ceremony?
xedvux 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing this video. My father ran this Marathon, he is the guy who takes the sponge on 1:03. I have seen this video before, and talked to him about it. I showed it to him and to my children. Very inspirational.
crlbertone 4 years ago
Empresinha do caralho.
hanglooses 4 years ago
Sorry, Shorter stands much higher than Pre...check the medal count! And yes, I know he died early, but there was still that Viren guy...
1MileRunner 4 years ago
completely agree with you 1Mile... Shorter, Viren and Yifter, in my opinion, were the greatest middle distance runners of the 70's (5K and above)... you could also include Billy Rodgers, but not in the Olympic context
kingwilson06ad 4 years ago
I meant long distance runners, not middle distance runners
kingwilson06ad 4 years ago
Nope, not true. Pre turned running into a religion in the US and the folklore lives today. Ask a casual sports fan who Frank Shorter is, maybe 3 out 10 know. Ask 'em was PRE, and I think they'll ALL know. Yes Frank has Gold & Silver, but Pre died when he was reaching his peak, he waa 4 years younger than Shorter. Pre held ever AR from 2,000 to 10,000 meters. Shorter was great, but never held a single AR in an Olympic distance
broadjumper1 4 years ago
I think Pre was one of the great ones, but Pre was known mainly for his constant winning in the U.S, for his rebelious demeanor, and sadly for dying in a car crash so young. Internationally, Pre was an unknown. He never broke a world record. Shorter, in the meantime, was winning 10K races in Europe while Pre was breaking college records in Oregon. Shorter truly crafted how marathon running should be tackled.
kingwilson06ad 4 years ago
Pre was known for a lot, winning races, gutty performances, being a rebel & advancing the cause of US athletes. Don't kid yourself, the Europeans knew him, but you forget until the '78 Amateur Sports Act the AAU had control over an athlete's status, Shorter too. They decided where an athlete was to compete and the AAU got the money. Pre wanted to run against the best but the AAU had him at USA/USSR meets. Pre said US athletes needed welfare to live. He helped end "shamatuerism."
broadjumper1 4 years ago
I got this clip from a old VHS I had. It's called Olympiad--Marathon. It's a documentary of all the marathon victories up to the point of the video release. I converted it to my computer, however for some reason I couldn't get the sound to work when I put it on YouTube.
kdc8122 4 years ago 3
This is great. I have posted a much shorter clip taken from the same film footage as your clip. My hunch is these segments are from the movie Visions of Eight. The director John Schlesinger made this segment, called "The Longest." Of course, this could be from a Bud Greenspan documentary, as well. The man in the wheelchair is Abebe Bikila. A German foundation flew him to the games. He is heavier and bearded, so does not look like the he did in his marathon days.
kiplng 4 years ago
Was that man in the wheelchair (0:16) Abebe Bikila? I heard that Bikila watched the '72 Olympic marathon and Shorter, out of respect for the now paraplegic Bikila, didn't break his record.
tkellnerus 4 years ago
Yes, it was Abebe Bikila, but the record breaking comment is false.
broadjumper1 4 years ago
I heard Bikila gave the gold medal to Shorter in the ceremonies and that Shorter admitted later that he felt humbled by this. Frank admired and worshipped the great Ethiopian as one of his idols.
kingwilson06ad 4 years ago
Sorry, no that's some kind of urban legend. Abebe was invited as a special guest to the 1972 Olympics in Munich where he witnessed American Frank Shorter win the marathon. After Shorter received his medal he went to Bikila to shake his hand, so it was after he fact, but Shorter did respecy him a great deal.
broadjumper1 4 years ago
P.S. Anyone know how to get footage of this on DVD/VHS? Would love to watch the whole race -- with sound!!!
DorkusMongus 4 years ago
Frank Shorter is my hero. Pre had style, but Shorter delivered when it counted most. And to come back and win silver in '76 -- simply amazing. The guy knew how to prepare.
DorkusMongus 4 years ago 2
shorter is the man! next to pre
bigtexan449 4 years ago