In Flames have a rare understanding and maturity in music that very few bands have. They are for me, the best in the genre! In Flames we trust from your very proud neighbours in Finland!
I think people don't understand inflames see they don't care about your opinion whether you like this new cd or not their music isn't about you they play what they feel like not what you want them to play so go ahead and fume and make your listening experience worse. i'm gonna enjoy the new sounds they come out with.
Why are people saying Dark Tranquility have playing the same thing for 20 years? You guys never heard the Projector album? Sounds nothing like their first few albums!
@MrKhayos Yea, seriously. And in fact, Skydancer sounds nothing like they or any other band have released since then. I have to say that as much as I love In Flames' old albums, Dark Tranquillity is much more talented and visionary overall.
At 1:43 onward, I pictured a movie scene, something like this: The protagonist is walking slowly through a large corporate building, with lots of glass windows, and the camera angles constantly changing. He is wearing a pitch black suit and black trousers, and carrying a briefcase, obviously with important letters. Then the screen partially fades and it shows multiple flashbacks of previous parts of the movie (lots of shooting involved), while still showing the man walking in the background.
I really really love this album! but this song should sound kind of dark or epic (what it doesn't really...^^) or what?? the only impressive thing is the dry cough at 00:24 ! for me it doesn't really fit into the album, it's a kind of fail... but maybe it's just because i don't get the message!
In flames can do everything you still like that just because it's In flames,..it's stupid. "Jesters door" is not a song. It's just noise with speaking and then ten second of banal techno sound. You probably have wax in the ears..
@ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01 This song has a bit more 'deeper' (than cock in your arse) meaning and your primitive brain can't see or understand it. Now go listen to your favourite band Tokio Hotel and stfu.
In flames' new album is far too mature and developed . The change was very affective and rather than being as heavy as before they got new alternate progressive style. love it !!
People accuse bands of being sellouts if they cater to the wishes of the fans too much and they say they used to be better if they go in their own direction. I'm glad 'In Flames' chose the latter of the two.
Okey, this is sick! I've listened to the album through my computer speakers, pretty good ones. And I have thought to myself, well, this is nothing special. The point came today, I bought the CD, and put it into my big Canton hifisystem. Sat down in the sofa, and.......bam. I sat quite during the whole album, for about 40 minutes. Didn't moved. This was something special. Genious! Every single detail approached. So everyone, until you've heard it with real sound, don't comment! In Flames rules!!!
I'm not one of those guys that thinks that Clayman is the best album. I actually believe it was total shit. In Flames improves with every album, and my 2 favorites are this one and Come Clarity.
@cactuar2 Clayman was amazing. This album is total shit in my opinion. There is no thrash or gothenberg influence at all and it sounds like they were rushed and just wrote a bunch of forgettable songs in order to please record execs.
@cbazan66 If a band kept playing the same kind of music for TWENTY fucking years, it would get old. No enjoyment in writing the same sounding music over and over. A sign of a truly good band is progression. And progression in a direction THEY want to go in, not a direction fans want them to. Good music, contrary to popular belief, is in fact for the artist. Not to please fans.
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast I agree that the sign of a good band is progression. Just look at bands like Death, Opeth and Dissection. All of those bands progressed without becoming lame so why can't In Flames? It isn't so much that the songwriting is horrible but it feels as if it is missing something. It lacks any real fire and passion that their earlier records like Colony or Clayman had without a doubt. They went the way of Soilwork and decided to be more melodic. Melody in metal is tough tobalanc
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast yeah I like melodic as well but contained within it's boundaries. Clean vocals for the sake of having clean vocals never sounds good. Anders doesn't have the best clean voice I mean he did spend half of his career singing death metal. It is a tough balance. Opeth does it quite nice as does Machine Head, Trivium, even Mikael Stanne from Dark Tranquillity can do it without sounding lame. just listen to Punish my Heaven. This album isn't worth buying save for like two songs.
@Peakaboo2k They are just more commercial. But hey, maybe you are right, then I guess Justin Bieber is a hell of a good artist, because he is bigger then In Flames, so he is doing something good that In Flames doesn't. Yeah man, makes perfect sense!
@DIEFORDETHKLOK696 No I am not joking, I just pricked a hole in "Peakaboo2k's" logic.
He said: "In flames are bigger then Dark Tranquillity (a.k., more populair). Therefor they are doing something good that Dark Tranquillity doesn't".
That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, because they just make more commercial music, and that makes them better? That would make Justin Bieber a better artist then In Flames, if I take his logic seriously.. Because he is more famous then In Flames is.
@Sidlcarus Dark Tranquility has changed their sound as well, they went in a new direction without mellowing, In flames has mellowed due to a rift created between band mates. Their sound on each album relfects the progression of their lives, to try and still be heavy would be a lie.
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast Then Anders Fridén is a goddamn hypocrite. In a interview he got asked what his favorite bands where and he actually said: Bands like Kreator and Helloween I enjoyed.. but only their early work, when they where actually descent. Ohhh the irony.
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast It's not "progression" if you're just following a trend, and it's pretty clear that with Clayman and the following albums, In Flames started trying to "break into the American market" and changed their look and style to fit in with nu-metal bands. Dredlocks on a white guy and typical angsty lyrics are hardly groundbreaking. I still think their new stuff is catchy and listenable, but it's definitely far less deep artistically than the old.
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast This man has a true point. I don't see why so many deem this as mainstream, though. It's the same style, just with more melody. If this was mainstream they would try to sound like Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne or some other form of pop music today. I guess it's just the annoying stereotypical metal fans that hate anything more than screaming or that has any form of melody. Who also think how well one can play an instrruements determines talent.
@IsinitLong So metal fans hate melody? Why do you think metal fans got into in flames in the first place, look at lunar strain the jester race whoracle and colony all of those albums had a ton of melody it was a beatiful mix of brutallity and melody. When they went mainstream they lost the melody for hard hitting nu metal riffing, catchy sing along songs, and cheesy angsty lyrics. They use to have deep lyrics now its whining. Thats why metal fans say they are mainstream.
@cbazan66 Well im a fan of softer songs from them. I love heavy shit, but not overly heavy. Less screaming and more singing. Now if you wanna talk good songs by In Flames, then Colony is the way to go...
@cactuar2 see i like all in flames but it kinda splits and fans out from the middle for me clayman was good but whoracle was better and jester race was amazing where on the other side RTR did nothing for me soundtrack had a few good songs then from come clarity to this has been amazing
Why bitchin? Just imagine where would we by without blending of music styles. Yes they are making different music now but only thing that mean is, that this band is still alive and willing to create some new stuff! I like their old and new stuff. In fact if they had stuck just with the old stuff i wouldnt be probalby listening to them anymore.
@BBergo92 yeah they took the metaphor idea pretty far with The Attic. but they're usually metaphoric lyrics, pretty much saying the same thing in over half of their songs.
Their new album is one of the best. I like Reroute to Remain, The Jester's Race, Clayman, and Come Clarity a lot, but this album was a new direction for them and they did great at it.
this is a helluva track... i'm sure this was a personal note from Jesper to the band... great tribute to him. what an amazing guy, and an amazing group he was a part of for close to 2 decades. sad to have him go.
now this is a real band you fags say they suck but think of this they have how many albums and there still maken more most band only give like two or three albums and quit or something. just be thankful they didnt quit at clayman then where would you be i know i wouldnt be here i wouldnt be a metal head this band brought me to the metal light. IN FLAMES WE TRUST \m/
What I never got about what some people that always say that In Flames sold out, what did they sell out to? Their old stuff is godly but it sounds more main stream metal than their new songs. So are you guys saying they sold out to be a unique, creative, one-of-a-kind band?
EVERYONE please stop arguing, in flames is full of like talented musicians like alot of bands. these guys deserve what they've gotten; lots and lots of fame in the metal community. agruing about their new sound is rediculous and, at a loss of a better word, ignorant. please stop fighting, we all like metal, and its not like any of us like justin beiber bullshit, or pop/rap shit. thats whats truely meaningless now a days. so please respect. IN FLAMES WE TRUST.
By the way...I have every album know every song (even the non-album tracks and anything any in flames member has done with other bands) and I love all of it.
This isn't much of a song.... this is Anders's way of saying thank you. and NOT Jesper's words! Anders said so in an interview! stop thinking Jesper wrote this! he fucking didn't! get over it! We miss Jesper yeah, but who knows, his "permanent" leave may change by the years. But for now, he is gone, get over it!
people don't have any appreciation for music anymore... i listen to Johnny Cash, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Tool, Fear Factory, 5FDP, Korn, Pearl Jam... let me caps lock this so people will understand: A GOOD ARTIST WILL NOT USE THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SOMETIMES NEW STUFF INVITES A NEWER CROWD AND MORE FANS... IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, STOP LISTENING TO IT. IT'S THAT GODDAMN SIMPLE.
@neverenough4206 As has been pointed out. AC/DC, Saxon, Motorhead, there are countless bands that have stayed the same but kept it fresh, that debating point of "good artists" is flawed. A good artist produces good music, and people either appreciate it, or don't. When an artist tries to change style to attract a more modern crowd and more fans, thats usually in metal termed as going mainstream. The musics decent, but old In Flames is without a doubt better in musicianship, and arguably sound.
@josraydar No, I would hate for the corporate bullshit to touch In Flames. I hope they don't hit the mainstreem. Not trying to be rude, those are just my thoughts :D
I think its time commenting on inflames new songs and video be disabled because theres way too much Bitching Going On. Oh Im a true fan because I hold true to the old sound, its 2011 Dumbass Wake Up The Worlds Not Gonna Stop For You!
@DeadHead185 Funny, I was under the impression music is usually not bound by age? Fuck man why am I listening to bands from 50 years ago? Those fucking idiots who listen to classical, pfft how out of date are they man? I guess you're right. Music is about doing the in thing, all bands should stop creating what they are good at and concentrate on keeping a modernized sound so people like them, such as IN FLAMES!
I think the old stuff was genius. But to be quite honest, I also think this is quite genius too. And by the way, this is not quite a song, it's an open letter from Jesper.
inflames suck nuts plus without jesper it not really inflames anyway this sounds like pop rock evelution change give a fuck if it sucks it sucks and this shit sucks hard
Also, to point out one thing, from Lunar Strain to Clayman every album was MDM, yet every album was different in itself but clearly In Flames, so old In Flames themselves proved you can stay the same style while keeping albums fresh. TJR sounds nothing like Clayman which sounds nothing like whoracle which sounds nothing like colony. So keeping fresh wasn't hard. It was to grow a bigger appealing market and modernize themselves for that.
And their old sound is far far more musically driven. I'm not going to compare sounds here as to what sounds better, but the melody and guitar/acoustics in old IF compared to now (do they even do acoustics now?) is not even debatable that old IF were more musically driven. They dumbed down their music to appeal more. So I am right, but thats not my point anyway. My point is OLD IF > NEW IF for music fans, and we lost a great band to pressure to sell (musically). Damn right Im annoyed at that.
If you guys understood the way the world works... Damn sheeple, youtube fema camps, rex 84, agenda 21, nwo, rfid chip.. In flames knows the end is near
..to sell more you make us out not to be fans at all? Guitar harmonies, musical instrumentals, all gone for....this? And we're supposed to say "we're happy"? Nah mate. If anything we're the true fans here since we don't blindly follow a band, we're true fans of music and we miss that music, you on the other hand think its a good quality to eat whatever IF give you to eat and not question it. More pity on you for thinking like that.
You know, its pathetic how unappreciative some of you "fans" are. Since Clayman, you guys havent stopped bashing this amazing bands releases. Questioning the bands ability? Calling them sell outs? Who the fuck are you to do that.. They've been making music for 18 years.Thats a long time to keep fans happy so of course their sound has changed. I for one, wouldnt like to listen to the same sound for 18 years.Best band to ever exist.
@VelaStorm7 If you want to blindly follow a band no matter what they do, thats up to you. Us old fans though? We bought the cds when they weren't known too much or on guitar hero. Attended gigs where they supported other bands. We praised their work as one of the best of the genre. What the fuck did you new fans do? Jump on the bandwagon when they changed sound to appeal to a more poppy metal scene? And because we don't BLINDLY follow a bands decision and question losing music integrity....
@Shemmmy I'm not blindly following the band? Did it ever occur to you that I enjoy their new material as much as the old? Because I do. And why are you reffering to me as a new fan? My first metal CD I've ever bought was Clayman back in 2000, followed then by buying everything dating back to Lunarstrain. And the next release was RTR, the time their sound changed and I've loved every release up to this album. Can't believe how stupid and ingorent some people are..
@VelaStorm7 I made an arrogant assumption as much as you did. You asked who we were. I told you. People that supported In Flames for what they were. The new In Flames are decent, but thats it, mediocre band thats nothing that special from todays current metal scene bands. Musically they are a step down, thats not even up for debate really. There have been plenty of other bands keeping their sound the same but keeping it fresh for years on end, so what you're saying isn't an excuse....
@thychaos Well english isn't my first language. And I just love how you can't think of a proper reply to my last comment, so you resort to bashing my spelling. Some people, eh?
@WagglyPie1 im not listening to this, dumbass. that doesnt mean i cant come here and comment on the video after listening to it. thats what the comment section is for.
@Shemmmy You truly are the hipster of metal ... that's a new low man "we don't like in flames because they're too mainstream now, they put their songs on guitar hero and headline their own gigs T_T" I really don't see your logic in hating on people who enjoy the new sound... the majority of us own most if not all of the In Flames discography as well you know, not just you "true fans"
@MrKhayos You misinterpreted my words. We don't like In Flames because sound wise, they sound nothing like the band they were. Compare the musical instrumentals, the main focus of guitar work and harmonies driving songs, to the new stuff? Most of their new stuff is keyboard/synth centered, AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE a permanent member of the band doing that. The guitar work is more based on rhythm, keyboards control the melody, the vocals are more jon davis korn sounding than MDM vocals....
@Shemmmy No no i understand. You're saying you feel In Flames writes more for the mainstream metal market now than the underground melodeath market they used to (though after 4 albums, why you thought they would go back to their old sound is beyond me). But think about how long In Flames has been going, 21 years. The band is obviously going to go through changes over that time. How much has your music taste changed in 21 years? I know im listening to stuff i wouldn't have touched even last year!
@MrKhayos Dark Tranquillity have stayed fresh for years, as have multiple other bands and yet kept the same style. Really, In Flames did what they did, I understand the reason behind it. But it means us old fans get cheated from the quality of music they made. I dont want the same album rehashed. However, I do want quality MDM music filled with excellent guitar harmonies leading the song, acoustics and sometimes harsher vocals, which IF were masters of. New IF is nothing like this.
@MrKhayos Basically they are NOTHING about old IF other than band name, and yes, they are making music now to cater more to selling and making money than they are about the music. Don't believe me? Look at the views on youtube as an example, Take this life to say, episode 666. Its amazing how only the new sound gets appreciated by millions and the old sound doesn't, eh? Its because the new sound is more catered towards being poppy/current/modern metal and friendlier than their old stuff....
@Shemmmy hey bro, episode 666 was made when this music was cutting edge. only a hand full of band even had that sound at that time. you can't compare apples to oranges. also people change over the year's and so do there out looks on things. its call evolution, not selling out. In Flames Still makes kick ass music. i say its more like every body sounds like them. without them, music would have never sounded this way to start with... Dip shit.
@iwkyall That does not make my point irrelevant, that only modern in flames gets appreciated compared to old. Speaks volumes for itself about why the band changed styles. I suggest you learn the meaning of "evolution" as it means growth and developement. They didn't evolve, they CHANGED, and that's something COMPLETELY different. Copout excuse thats BS. I'll ignore the dipshit comment since you clearly are ignorant towards the difference of changing and evolving.
@VelaStorm7 why the fuck would i be appreciative for music i think sucks? yeah, bands change. thats the argument all of you idiots come up with. oh, and also that we just dont like it because its not another jester race. lol. this isnt evolution, its a step towards unoriginality.
@thychaos If you think all this new stuff sucks. Then why the hell are you still watching videos of their new material knowing what to expect?!? You think 11 years after Clayman, they are suddenly going to go back to their old roots? Is that why you listen to these new songs, hoping for their old sound again? Give me a fucking break. You're clrearly one of these idiots who has no interest in this bands music, who only comes here to start arguments. I'm done with you trolls.
@VelaStorm7 i dont think all the new stuff sucks, moron. youre like the fifth idiot who assumes that i just want another Jester Race. i dont give a shit if they go back to their roots. if they make good music i can appreciate it. im just apalled that so many people actually think this is good. and youre another retard who doesnt know what a real troll is.
May be leaving In Flames is the best for Jesper. Because if I was in a band that wrote shitty music like this, I think I would become an alcoholic too.
Lets analyze.....this should be a short instrumental song in the middle of the album. Please compare this to the instrumental song on their album "The Jester Race" (1995)....the song is called "Jesters Dance"......its at least 100000000 times better than this pop stuff.
In Flames have a rare understanding and maturity in music that very few bands have. They are for me, the best in the genre! In Flames we trust from your very proud neighbours in Finland!
ThenextPetrucci 1 month ago
they really like Jesters don't they?
TheBANANAMAL 2 months ago
@TheBANANAMAL Its a symbol for them.
ThatRandomGuy7787 1 week ago
wierd
CARTOONZ111 2 months ago
hai their guyz
TheSonOfTheSystem 3 months ago
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TheSonOfTheSystem 3 months ago
I think people don't understand inflames see they don't care about your opinion whether you like this new cd or not their music isn't about you they play what they feel like not what you want them to play so go ahead and fume and make your listening experience worse. i'm gonna enjoy the new sounds they come out with.
alblume1 3 months ago
You misspelled the title...
ReConstructDe4d 4 months ago
I was expecting something like the jesters dance or jester script transfigured and instead i hear this waste of track time filler bullshit.
Ganjatronicals 4 months ago
Why are people saying Dark Tranquility have playing the same thing for 20 years? You guys never heard the Projector album? Sounds nothing like their first few albums!
MrKhayos 4 months ago
@MrKhayos Yea, seriously. And in fact, Skydancer sounds nothing like they or any other band have released since then. I have to say that as much as I love In Flames' old albums, Dark Tranquillity is much more talented and visionary overall.
achilleselbow 4 months ago
for all you saying if a band keeps playing the same metal for 20 years somehow makes it old... TELL THAT TO SLAYER AND MEGADETH DICKHEADS!
20schnook 5 months ago 2
@20schnook But they suck and they're so old now.
SgtAurora 4 months ago
@SgtAurora So what? Your mother is old too and you listen to her...
Passachiel 4 months ago 2
At 1:43 onward, I pictured a movie scene, something like this: The protagonist is walking slowly through a large corporate building, with lots of glass windows, and the camera angles constantly changing. He is wearing a pitch black suit and black trousers, and carrying a briefcase, obviously with important letters. Then the screen partially fades and it shows multiple flashbacks of previous parts of the movie (lots of shooting involved), while still showing the man walking in the background.
ComradeNF 5 months ago
JESPER'S DOOR
vaxkors95 5 months ago
Funny, In flames just made their version of the Laibach song "B machine". A bit odd, but charming.
Njurvar 5 months ago
I really really love this album! but this song should sound kind of dark or epic (what it doesn't really...^^) or what?? the only impressive thing is the dry cough at 00:24 ! for me it doesn't really fit into the album, it's a kind of fail... but maybe it's just because i don't get the message!
can anybody help me??
reptilianmajesty94 5 months ago
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I want to listen this song in my funeral
1671145 6 months ago
lol, what the fuck is this shit...
xt2bn5 6 months ago
@xt2bn5 this "shit" is the new generation of epicness from inflames :D
TehKittehKiller 6 months ago
@xt2bn5 this is a song for jesper strömblad who left the band
hardcore9999999 5 months ago
Way too short...*sigh*
JVThrillz 6 months ago
The whole intro and the build up are amazing, sad the song doesn't last any longer with that world class intro !
moen1337 6 months ago
Can someone explain who is the jester. and what this means.
coldcoma 6 months ago
@coldcoma listen to every album from start to finish in order. you will understand young one.
phoenixwing9000 6 months ago
@coldcoma Old in flames as did call their fans jesterheads. Jester is lika a part om the inflames
AdishMoral 6 months ago
In flames can do everything you still like that just because it's In flames,..it's stupid. "Jesters door" is not a song. It's just noise with speaking and then ten second of banal techno sound. You probably have wax in the ears..
eilhitla 6 months ago
@eilhitla it's a poem.. and a beautiful one.. The "noise" is sound to make it more powerfull..
hdiget1 6 months ago
1:40 This is the part when I came.
HateMachinist 6 months ago
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HateMachinist 6 months ago
in flames are chnage but still rules i really like the band from there start it's still the same old good band alle these years they are great!!!!
inflames1965 7 months ago 2
I don't get this. It sounds more like Mortiis than In Flames.
caiphnaraya 7 months ago
This is a shitty version of their amazing "Jesters Dance".....
I mean wtf is this??? Sounds like Techno...
ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01 7 months ago
@ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01
Yea this album, and their more recent albums, cannot compare to anything they previously have done. In no matter what so ever.
Sidlcarus 7 months ago
@ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01 I disagree there...
The Jester's Dance was straight up Melodeath.
Yes this is a different style, but that doesn't make it bad.
This track has a very different story to tell than Jester's Dance.
I love both songs, don't get me wrong, and yes I like Jester's Dance more than this.
But this is fuckin' mesmerizing man....
MrCannibalSpork 7 months ago
@ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01 This song has a bit more 'deeper' (than cock in your arse) meaning and your primitive brain can't see or understand it. Now go listen to your favourite band Tokio Hotel and stfu.
Standrdrog 7 months ago
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YayoSinjab 7 months ago
In flames' new album is far too mature and developed . The change was very affective and rather than being as heavy as before they got new alternate progressive style. love it !!
cutelamala 7 months ago
People accuse bands of being sellouts if they cater to the wishes of the fans too much and they say they used to be better if they go in their own direction. I'm glad 'In Flames' chose the latter of the two.
Feuerkrieg 7 months ago
anyone else get goosebumps on the last line..?
in flames we trust.
sk8rt33 7 months ago 2
It's sad to see you go,
As I was meant to be easy,
But you drag us down.
Jesper, u are leaving us with scars.. :(
Jaikukki 7 months ago
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ZepiHolm 7 months ago
Lovely.
UnicornsAreGay1 7 months ago
Okey, this is sick! I've listened to the album through my computer speakers, pretty good ones. And I have thought to myself, well, this is nothing special. The point came today, I bought the CD, and put it into my big Canton hifisystem. Sat down in the sofa, and.......bam. I sat quite during the whole album, for about 40 minutes. Didn't moved. This was something special. Genious! Every single detail approached. So everyone, until you've heard it with real sound, don't comment! In Flames rules!!!
divra93 7 months ago 19
@divra93 Are you spamming every In Flames videos with this comment? Jesus Christ what are you trying to accomplish? Top comment?
MritsHunter 7 months ago
@MritsHunter No, I'm trying to tell everybody what they miss if they don't have good sound!
divra93 7 months ago 4
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czech698 8 months ago
15 don't have a box of tshirts
sirshitsalot007 8 months ago
I'm not one of those guys that thinks that Clayman is the best album. I actually believe it was total shit. In Flames improves with every album, and my 2 favorites are this one and Come Clarity.
cactuar2 8 months ago
@cactuar2 Clayman was amazing. This album is total shit in my opinion. There is no thrash or gothenberg influence at all and it sounds like they were rushed and just wrote a bunch of forgettable songs in order to please record execs.
cbazan66 8 months ago
@cbazan66 If a band kept playing the same kind of music for TWENTY fucking years, it would get old. No enjoyment in writing the same sounding music over and over. A sign of a truly good band is progression. And progression in a direction THEY want to go in, not a direction fans want them to. Good music, contrary to popular belief, is in fact for the artist. Not to please fans.
KnowledgeAndTheBeast 8 months ago 63
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast I agree that the sign of a good band is progression. Just look at bands like Death, Opeth and Dissection. All of those bands progressed without becoming lame so why can't In Flames? It isn't so much that the songwriting is horrible but it feels as if it is missing something. It lacks any real fire and passion that their earlier records like Colony or Clayman had without a doubt. They went the way of Soilwork and decided to be more melodic. Melody in metal is tough tobalanc
cbazan66 8 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast yeah I like melodic as well but contained within it's boundaries. Clean vocals for the sake of having clean vocals never sounds good. Anders doesn't have the best clean voice I mean he did spend half of his career singing death metal. It is a tough balance. Opeth does it quite nice as does Machine Head, Trivium, even Mikael Stanne from Dark Tranquillity can do it without sounding lame. just listen to Punish my Heaven. This album isn't worth buying save for like two songs.
cbazan66 8 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast
Dark Tranquility is still making Melodic Death Metal, and they still fucking rock.
You can also see this in many other genres, aside from metal, that they stick to what they had and still sounds awesome. Your argument is invalid.
Sidlcarus 7 months ago
@Sidlcarus I would say that In flames are bigger then dark tranquility. Therefor they are doing something good that DT dosent.
Peakaboo2k 7 months ago
@Peakaboo2k They are just more commercial. But hey, maybe you are right, then I guess Justin Bieber is a hell of a good artist, because he is bigger then In Flames, so he is doing something good that In Flames doesn't. Yeah man, makes perfect sense!
EverxOpeningxFlower 6 months ago
@EverxOpeningxFlower ?....... ur joking right?
DIEFORDETHKLOK696 5 months ago
@DIEFORDETHKLOK696 No I am not joking, I just pricked a hole in "Peakaboo2k's" logic.
He said: "In flames are bigger then Dark Tranquillity (a.k., more populair). Therefor they are doing something good that Dark Tranquillity doesn't".
That is the biggest joke I have ever heard, because they just make more commercial music, and that makes them better? That would make Justin Bieber a better artist then In Flames, if I take his logic seriously.. Because he is more famous then In Flames is.
EverxOpeningxFlower 5 months ago
@Sidlcarus Dark Tranquility has changed their sound as well, they went in a new direction without mellowing, In flames has mellowed due to a rift created between band mates. Their sound on each album relfects the progression of their lives, to try and still be heavy would be a lie.
S0ryiu 7 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast Do I smell a hippie
electronikita 7 months ago
@electronikita A hippie? The fuck?
KnowledgeAndTheBeast 7 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast it is in fact for the artist. the good ones. some just change for the fans. those bands eventually turn to shit.
IN FLAMES FOR LIFE
phoenixwing9000 6 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast one example of that is nickelback....
Smiffysmiffsmiff141 6 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast Then Anders Fridén is a goddamn hypocrite. In a interview he got asked what his favorite bands where and he actually said: Bands like Kreator and Helloween I enjoyed.. but only their early work, when they where actually descent. Ohhh the irony.
EverxOpeningxFlower 6 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast wow, great choice of words mate, totally agree!
NHChannel 4 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast It's not "progression" if you're just following a trend, and it's pretty clear that with Clayman and the following albums, In Flames started trying to "break into the American market" and changed their look and style to fit in with nu-metal bands. Dredlocks on a white guy and typical angsty lyrics are hardly groundbreaking. I still think their new stuff is catchy and listenable, but it's definitely far less deep artistically than the old.
achilleselbow 4 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast This man has a true point. I don't see why so many deem this as mainstream, though. It's the same style, just with more melody. If this was mainstream they would try to sound like Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne or some other form of pop music today. I guess it's just the annoying stereotypical metal fans that hate anything more than screaming or that has any form of melody. Who also think how well one can play an instrruements determines talent.
IsinitLong 3 months ago
@IsinitLong So metal fans hate melody? Why do you think metal fans got into in flames in the first place, look at lunar strain the jester race whoracle and colony all of those albums had a ton of melody it was a beatiful mix of brutallity and melody. When they went mainstream they lost the melody for hard hitting nu metal riffing, catchy sing along songs, and cheesy angsty lyrics. They use to have deep lyrics now its whining. Thats why metal fans say they are mainstream.
ThatRandomGuy7787 1 week ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast It's rather not something good to you. If its sounds good to you they are talented. This changes from person so yeah.
IsinitLong 3 months ago
@KnowledgeAndTheBeast anyways that was just a whole bunch of bullshit wasnt it
STVENOM 3 weeks ago
@cbazan66 Well im a fan of softer songs from them. I love heavy shit, but not overly heavy. Less screaming and more singing. Now if you wanna talk good songs by In Flames, then Colony is the way to go...
cactuar2 8 months ago
@cactuar2 i aggree the softer songs and acoustic solo's is the way i go to :) colony and god made man.
HastePk 7 months ago
@HastePk man made god i meant ffs! TIRED
HastePk 7 months ago
@cactuar2 see i like all in flames but it kinda splits and fans out from the middle for me clayman was good but whoracle was better and jester race was amazing where on the other side RTR did nothing for me soundtrack had a few good songs then from come clarity to this has been amazing
watami10 8 months ago
@watami10 I think that Reroute to Remain is an epic album! but agreed. the fan base is too split.
cactuar2 8 months ago
@watami10 see and i thought RTR was amazing and though i liked all the older albums jester race was one of my least fav of them all
implosion666 7 months ago
Best song on the album
godanselmo 8 months ago
I really think they should have made an extended version of this one :D
robinny2 8 months ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC!!
Kagamex 8 months ago
Why bitchin? Just imagine where would we by without blending of music styles. Yes they are making different music now but only thing that mean is, that this band is still alive and willing to create some new stuff! I like their old and new stuff. In fact if they had stuck just with the old stuff i wouldnt be probalby listening to them anymore.
TheLordxray 8 months ago
Their lyrics are becomming strange, Like "The Attic" But the sounds is still to great to even concive reality.
BBergo92 8 months ago
@BBergo92 yeah they took the metaphor idea pretty far with The Attic. but they're usually metaphoric lyrics, pretty much saying the same thing in over half of their songs.
TheMetalHeaD256 8 months ago
Their new album is one of the best. I like Reroute to Remain, The Jester's Race, Clayman, and Come Clarity a lot, but this album was a new direction for them and they did great at it.
MarcellusHellraiser 8 months ago
this is a helluva track... i'm sure this was a personal note from Jesper to the band... great tribute to him. what an amazing guy, and an amazing group he was a part of for close to 2 decades. sad to have him go.
TheMetalHeaD256 8 months ago 27
@TheMetalHeaD256 how could it be? this was recorded without him..... :/
xshadowspherex 7 months ago
what the hell happened : D awesome track!
Kuratassu 8 months ago
why bother if your going to be a troll and insult everyone?
WagglyPie1 8 months ago
a sense of purpose was incredible this album is meh. I also loved clarity and reroute but this one is eh.
leerey14 8 months ago
@shemmmy mainstream metal for me would be the artists that play what people want instead of what they enjoy most...
neverenough4206 8 months ago
So Jesper walks through Jester's door and In Flames loses all of their essence.. makes sense.
Justerbuster89 8 months ago
needs moar lunar strain
pwnagexe 8 months ago
@pwnagexe Lunar Strain isn't even considered true In Flames...
Aslwyn 8 months ago
@Aslwyn haha are you kidding? it had the jesper, and he was writing all of the songs, i dont see how it isnt "true" in flames.
pwnagexe 8 months ago
@pwnagexe It's not considered true In Flames because it wasn't with the lineup that lasted from The Jester's Race to A Sense of Purpose.
Aslwyn 8 months ago
@Aslwyn it had the main music writer, a few of what's considered "classic in flames" and for god's sake, there's a song called IN FLAMES on it.
pwnagexe 8 months ago
now this is a real band you fags say they suck but think of this they have how many albums and there still maken more most band only give like two or three albums and quit or something. just be thankful they didnt quit at clayman then where would you be i know i wouldnt be here i wouldnt be a metal head this band brought me to the metal light. IN FLAMES WE TRUST \m/
666Harbinger666 8 months ago
Longest comments ever... stfu
bobbelmouth 8 months ago
What I never got about what some people that always say that In Flames sold out, what did they sell out to? Their old stuff is godly but it sounds more main stream metal than their new songs. So are you guys saying they sold out to be a unique, creative, one-of-a-kind band?
ccase013 8 months ago
EVERYONE please stop arguing, in flames is full of like talented musicians like alot of bands. these guys deserve what they've gotten; lots and lots of fame in the metal community. agruing about their new sound is rediculous and, at a loss of a better word, ignorant. please stop fighting, we all like metal, and its not like any of us like justin beiber bullshit, or pop/rap shit. thats whats truely meaningless now a days. so please respect. IN FLAMES WE TRUST.
StickFigureG 8 months ago
By the way...I have every album know every song (even the non-album tracks and anything any in flames member has done with other bands) and I love all of it.
parrottfamily3 8 months ago
SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC!!! IF U DISLIKE IT, DONT LISTEN TO IT. SHIT ITS SIMPLE. PEACE MAN PEACE!!!! IN FLAMES WE TRUST TEXAS
parrottfamily3 8 months ago
beautifull, just damn, beautifull
downyoubastard 8 months ago
thychaos, please... fuck off
Shawny127 8 months ago
@Shawny127 shut up, pussy.
thychaos 8 months ago
I remember when there was an instrumental song on every album...this unfortunately, is garbage.
ZillionBrain 8 months ago
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IN FLAMES WE TRUST \m/ Jesper will be missed but the music will live on! Love the album!
ShinokX13 8 months ago
This isn't much of a song.... this is Anders's way of saying thank you. and NOT Jesper's words! Anders said so in an interview! stop thinking Jesper wrote this! he fucking didn't! get over it! We miss Jesper yeah, but who knows, his "permanent" leave may change by the years. But for now, he is gone, get over it!
Fredekob 8 months ago
Holy shit.... Never seen so much bitching in my life.
MritsHunter 8 months ago
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0DayZero0 8 months ago
umm ... i might sound crazy but i think this is my favourite song from this album .. unreal
cowpimp18 8 months ago
I feel like it's Jesper who sings this song, and this is his farewell to In Flames and his fans...
Scarsillu 8 months ago 4
people don't have any appreciation for music anymore... i listen to Johnny Cash, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Tool, Fear Factory, 5FDP, Korn, Pearl Jam... let me caps lock this so people will understand: A GOOD ARTIST WILL NOT USE THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SOMETIMES NEW STUFF INVITES A NEWER CROWD AND MORE FANS... IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, STOP LISTENING TO IT. IT'S THAT GODDAMN SIMPLE.
neverenough4206 8 months ago
@neverenough4206 As has been pointed out. AC/DC, Saxon, Motorhead, there are countless bands that have stayed the same but kept it fresh, that debating point of "good artists" is flawed. A good artist produces good music, and people either appreciate it, or don't. When an artist tries to change style to attract a more modern crowd and more fans, thats usually in metal termed as going mainstream. The musics decent, but old In Flames is without a doubt better in musicianship, and arguably sound.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
i love old in flames... and new in flames ! oh stop...
...i just love IN FLAMES !
Sined222 8 months ago
this album is better than the last.. but In Flames truely are a empty shell of what they once were. very sad.
Wyldchild666 8 months ago
awe man could imagine a movie trailer to the end of this song
in flames needs to be maaain stream
josraydar 8 months ago
@josraydar No, I would hate for the corporate bullshit to touch In Flames. I hope they don't hit the mainstreem. Not trying to be rude, those are just my thoughts :D
BrutalOppressor 8 months ago
I think its time commenting on inflames new songs and video be disabled because theres way too much Bitching Going On. Oh Im a true fan because I hold true to the old sound, its 2011 Dumbass Wake Up The Worlds Not Gonna Stop For You!
DeadHead185 8 months ago
@DeadHead185 Funny, I was under the impression music is usually not bound by age? Fuck man why am I listening to bands from 50 years ago? Those fucking idiots who listen to classical, pfft how out of date are they man? I guess you're right. Music is about doing the in thing, all bands should stop creating what they are good at and concentrate on keeping a modernized sound so people like them, such as IN FLAMES!
Shemmmy 8 months ago
Old Sound , New Sound...Thats All Im Hearing People Complain About Dont Like Dont Listen, Like It Enjoy It!
DeadHead185 8 months ago
I think the old stuff was genius. But to be quite honest, I also think this is quite genius too. And by the way, this is not quite a song, it's an open letter from Jesper.
TakiCyke 8 months ago
inflames suck nuts plus without jesper it not really inflames anyway this sounds like pop rock evelution change give a fuck if it sucks it sucks and this shit sucks hard
bastienalexander 8 months ago
@bastienalexander Did you even listen to the rest of the album?
BrutalOppressor 8 months ago
@BrutalOppressor inflames suck now accept it and move on i know i will 5 shit albums is one to many
bastienalexander 8 months ago
@bastienalexander get a life loser...
pkpheanix7 8 months ago
Also, to point out one thing, from Lunar Strain to Clayman every album was MDM, yet every album was different in itself but clearly In Flames, so old In Flames themselves proved you can stay the same style while keeping albums fresh. TJR sounds nothing like Clayman which sounds nothing like whoracle which sounds nothing like colony. So keeping fresh wasn't hard. It was to grow a bigger appealing market and modernize themselves for that.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
And their old sound is far far more musically driven. I'm not going to compare sounds here as to what sounds better, but the melody and guitar/acoustics in old IF compared to now (do they even do acoustics now?) is not even debatable that old IF were more musically driven. They dumbed down their music to appeal more. So I am right, but thats not my point anyway. My point is OLD IF > NEW IF for music fans, and we lost a great band to pressure to sell (musically). Damn right Im annoyed at that.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
this song is clearly about jesper
Chickenlovercamp 8 months ago
I Think It Sounds awesome
DeadHead185 8 months ago
If you guys understood the way the world works... Damn sheeple, youtube fema camps, rex 84, agenda 21, nwo, rfid chip.. In flames knows the end is near
Melodicryan 8 months ago
Not as good as "your bedtime story is scaring everyone" but not bad either
ConorsGuitar 8 months ago
@ConorsGuitar eh, why compare it to that song?
VelaStorm7 8 months ago
i hate it when the older fans are saying that this is bad to me it's still in flames and in flames is still the best band ever sorry for my english
metalpaarswitje 8 months ago
..to sell more you make us out not to be fans at all? Guitar harmonies, musical instrumentals, all gone for....this? And we're supposed to say "we're happy"? Nah mate. If anything we're the true fans here since we don't blindly follow a band, we're true fans of music and we miss that music, you on the other hand think its a good quality to eat whatever IF give you to eat and not question it. More pity on you for thinking like that.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
This song would be awesome to have in a movie trailer or something like that.
Thumbs up if you agree!
390basse 8 months ago
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390basse 8 months ago
You know, its pathetic how unappreciative some of you "fans" are. Since Clayman, you guys havent stopped bashing this amazing bands releases. Questioning the bands ability? Calling them sell outs? Who the fuck are you to do that.. They've been making music for 18 years.Thats a long time to keep fans happy so of course their sound has changed. I for one, wouldnt like to listen to the same sound for 18 years.Best band to ever exist.
VelaStorm7 8 months ago 51
@VelaStorm7 If you want to blindly follow a band no matter what they do, thats up to you. Us old fans though? We bought the cds when they weren't known too much or on guitar hero. Attended gigs where they supported other bands. We praised their work as one of the best of the genre. What the fuck did you new fans do? Jump on the bandwagon when they changed sound to appeal to a more poppy metal scene? And because we don't BLINDLY follow a bands decision and question losing music integrity....
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@Shemmmy But those who not like their old stuff, don't blindly follow the band either, or?
Ruukkz 8 months ago
@Shemmmy I'm not blindly following the band? Did it ever occur to you that I enjoy their new material as much as the old? Because I do. And why are you reffering to me as a new fan? My first metal CD I've ever bought was Clayman back in 2000, followed then by buying everything dating back to Lunarstrain. And the next release was RTR, the time their sound changed and I've loved every release up to this album. Can't believe how stupid and ingorent some people are..
VelaStorm7 8 months ago 21
@VelaStorm7 I made an arrogant assumption as much as you did. You asked who we were. I told you. People that supported In Flames for what they were. The new In Flames are decent, but thats it, mediocre band thats nothing that special from todays current metal scene bands. Musically they are a step down, thats not even up for debate really. There have been plenty of other bands keeping their sound the same but keeping it fresh for years on end, so what you're saying isn't an excuse....
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@VelaStorm7 "Can't believe how stupid and ingorent some people are.."
lol, how ironic. you misspell the word "ignorant" when speaking of other peoples ignorance. fucking idiot.
thychaos 8 months ago
@thychaos Well english isn't my first language. And I just love how you can't think of a proper reply to my last comment, so you resort to bashing my spelling. Some people, eh?
VelaStorm7 8 months ago
@thychaos please just stop bashing people and the band. if you dont like their sound DONT LISTEN TO THEM. its not that hard to understand
WagglyPie1 8 months ago
@WagglyPie1 im not listening to this, dumbass. that doesnt mean i cant come here and comment on the video after listening to it. thats what the comment section is for.
thychaos 8 months ago
@VelaStorm7 fan boy
killromes 6 months ago
@Shemmmy You truly are the hipster of metal ... that's a new low man "we don't like in flames because they're too mainstream now, they put their songs on guitar hero and headline their own gigs T_T" I really don't see your logic in hating on people who enjoy the new sound... the majority of us own most if not all of the In Flames discography as well you know, not just you "true fans"
MrKhayos 8 months ago
@MrKhayos You misinterpreted my words. We don't like In Flames because sound wise, they sound nothing like the band they were. Compare the musical instrumentals, the main focus of guitar work and harmonies driving songs, to the new stuff? Most of their new stuff is keyboard/synth centered, AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE a permanent member of the band doing that. The guitar work is more based on rhythm, keyboards control the melody, the vocals are more jon davis korn sounding than MDM vocals....
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@Shemmmy No no i understand. You're saying you feel In Flames writes more for the mainstream metal market now than the underground melodeath market they used to (though after 4 albums, why you thought they would go back to their old sound is beyond me). But think about how long In Flames has been going, 21 years. The band is obviously going to go through changes over that time. How much has your music taste changed in 21 years? I know im listening to stuff i wouldn't have touched even last year!
MrKhayos 8 months ago
@MrKhayos Dark Tranquillity have stayed fresh for years, as have multiple other bands and yet kept the same style. Really, In Flames did what they did, I understand the reason behind it. But it means us old fans get cheated from the quality of music they made. I dont want the same album rehashed. However, I do want quality MDM music filled with excellent guitar harmonies leading the song, acoustics and sometimes harsher vocals, which IF were masters of. New IF is nothing like this.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@MrKhayos Basically they are NOTHING about old IF other than band name, and yes, they are making music now to cater more to selling and making money than they are about the music. Don't believe me? Look at the views on youtube as an example, Take this life to say, episode 666. Its amazing how only the new sound gets appreciated by millions and the old sound doesn't, eh? Its because the new sound is more catered towards being poppy/current/modern metal and friendlier than their old stuff....
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@Shemmmy hey bro, episode 666 was made when this music was cutting edge. only a hand full of band even had that sound at that time. you can't compare apples to oranges. also people change over the year's and so do there out looks on things. its call evolution, not selling out. In Flames Still makes kick ass music. i say its more like every body sounds like them. without them, music would have never sounded this way to start with... Dip shit.
iwkyall 8 months ago
@iwkyall That does not make my point irrelevant, that only modern in flames gets appreciated compared to old. Speaks volumes for itself about why the band changed styles. I suggest you learn the meaning of "evolution" as it means growth and developement. They didn't evolve, they CHANGED, and that's something COMPLETELY different. Copout excuse thats BS. I'll ignore the dipshit comment since you clearly are ignorant towards the difference of changing and evolving.
Shemmmy 8 months ago
@VelaStorm7 why the fuck would i be appreciative for music i think sucks? yeah, bands change. thats the argument all of you idiots come up with. oh, and also that we just dont like it because its not another jester race. lol. this isnt evolution, its a step towards unoriginality.
thychaos 8 months ago
@thychaos If you think all this new stuff sucks. Then why the hell are you still watching videos of their new material knowing what to expect?!? You think 11 years after Clayman, they are suddenly going to go back to their old roots? Is that why you listen to these new songs, hoping for their old sound again? Give me a fucking break. You're clrearly one of these idiots who has no interest in this bands music, who only comes here to start arguments. I'm done with you trolls.
VelaStorm7 8 months ago
@VelaStorm7 i dont think all the new stuff sucks, moron. youre like the fifth idiot who assumes that i just want another Jester Race. i dont give a shit if they go back to their roots. if they make good music i can appreciate it. im just apalled that so many people actually think this is good. and youre another retard who doesnt know what a real troll is.
thychaos 8 months ago
@thychaos if you think this sucks you shouldn't be here retard, you're the idiot, listen to their older stuff if you don't like it, GET A LIFE!
pkpheanix7 8 months ago
@VelaStorm7 They used to be amazing, now most of their songs are pretty generic sounding IMO.
imonyourfacewoot 8 months ago
May be leaving In Flames is the best for Jesper. Because if I was in a band that wrote shitty music like this, I think I would become an alcoholic too.
generalfuckpants 8 months ago
@generalfuckpants fuck you man
Ta1ez 8 months ago
Τhese words could easily were Jesper's before leaving
ALL HAIL IN FLAMES
IN FLAMES WE TRUST
GREECE
13gfon13 8 months ago 2
:/ i guess no more in flames albums... its so sad to listen to this song and think there wont be any more
MultiFFS 8 months ago
I think this is a Goodbye, :(
MRRNOUMENON 8 months ago
ehhh they killed the Jester songs...
Nothing will top The Jester Race
redeemedrichard 8 months ago
Anyone else thinks that 1.44 and to the end is somewhat similiar to Led Zeppelins When the levee breaks?
LarsSteinhard 8 months ago
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Anyone else think "MOVIE THEME" ?
donSparda 8 months ago
Lets analyze.....this should be a short instrumental song in the middle of the album. Please compare this to the instrumental song on their album "The Jester Race" (1995)....the song is called "Jesters Dance"......its at least 100000000 times better than this pop stuff.
ChannelxxAUSTRIAxx01 8 months ago
JESPER disliked! seven times!
Textlimited 8 months ago