Please educate yourself before you attempt to use the internet again.
For next time I will approve your comment and show the world just how illiterate and emotively disjointed you present yourself to be. It is no wonder that atheists continually lose debates when they have mental midgets like you representing them.
It appears to me that you've had to deal with "angry" atheists. I'm sorry for that, but why not take the high road and not just assume we're all the same. I don't assume all believers in Christ are crazy, some are though. It's fine that you're proud of your faith, just you know maybe be more Christ-like (this is assuming that you are a Christian). I'm sorry if this sort of thing has already been said to and you ignore it, but generalizing atheists is just as bad as generalizing anyone.
@AgentMurphy286 I agree and I wish that I did not have to do it.
Please do not attempt to assume what my religion is. You will probably be wrong (along with most of your brethren who post here)
My aim is to point out that atheism can quite easily be ridiculed and lampooned as uneducated, uninteresting and egotistical navel gazing. In fact it is much easier to logically defend a belief in God and persecute atheists than the opposite..
Why do you make these? I know you think atheists are dumb because they don't think the exact same way as you, but this is, well, trolling. You're saying atheists say christians are idiots and uneducated, and they're arrogant, yet by saying that you're acting arrogant. No offence, if you find this offensive or something, though....
It is quite easy for me to display that atheists are in fact the ones that are arrogant, idiots and uneducated.
I do it on these forums every day. I am hoping that these lessons this will somehow permeate the congealed atheist egos and somehow get them to reason that their cliched stereotyping is nonsense.
so wait, was your comment making fun of atheists or believers, because the atheists argument is really really really flawed in almost every sense of the word. Which leaves me to believe that you are just a fool. That or an uneducated (notice how I'm not saying stupid) atheist who doesn't understand the basis of arguments.
Isn't it a bit of a double standard to claim only non-believers' testimony will be accepted to give evidence to Jesus' existence? There are many historical documents besides those mentioned in the video that do the same (for instance, the whole of the New Testament...).
Is it still ok to accept documents suggesting that Plato lived if those documents were written by his philosophical underlings? I guess since they sided with Plato their historical testimony is invalid. Plato did not exist.
@Gameguy602 . I do not censor comments. I simply do not approve comments that have already been answered, are disrespectful to religion or are abusive. If you cannot produce an argument or criticism without these then don’t bother trying.
@micahwllmsn Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again “ has been rejected for the following reason.
It contained no valid argument or criticism. The video deals with the existence of Jesus the person only.
I know that it is common practice for atheists to take a single idea and then extrapolate it in their mind into scenarios that they hate in order to pointlessly attack them, but try not to do it.
@1peterkim123 The purpose of the cartoon was not to prove the existence of God or prove that his miracles happened. It deals with the often used argument that atheists use about Jesus (the person) not having lived.
As for the last part of your comment. It is nonsense. The universal characteristics of God are not material so you cannot use empirically warped logic to wish away those attributes. In other words he can make a rock so big that he cannot lift it but of course he can.
Who cares if jesus was real or not? I think the REAL question atheists debate is "were jesus MIRACLES real" to which any sane person would have to admit, probably not. I'm an atheist and I have no problem saying jesus was a real person. I do, however, question the MIRACLES of jesus, as we know it is impossible for a virgin to give birth, people don't walk on water, nor turn water into wine, fish and bread don't magically regenerate, and so on. oh and PS VERY bias video.....
@BarryGormley2010 Yes you are correct. This is however only a cartoon. The big question is not his existence but what he did during his life. For that we really only have the gospels. I would suggest that for most Christians find that is immaterial. Their belief in the actions of Jesus are hinged upon his teachings, which they find extremely valid.
who cares what we call any year they are just arbitary designations, none of this has any import in the argument over the fact that there is no god and PS ;
hdsregmore: I've got no idea what point you are attempting to make. Do you?
@Fearlessechoes73 Yet again - In most of East Asia today, the Gregorian calendar is used for day-to-day activities, but the Chinese calendar is still used for marking traditional East Asian holidays such as the Chinese New Year.
by the way, I'm not arguing that anno domine doesn't refer to Jesus, merely that those who named it so were mistaken in their belief that any such person : a/ existed or :b/ was the son of supernatural being
okay, I'll use small words just so you can follow me hon : was or was not Jesus born the year of the census refered to in the gospel of Luke? 'cos that happened in so called "AD" 6
@crashtestbunny1 Oh dear I will attempt to inform you and your obviously tiny brain that the argument you are referring to has been presented many times on this forum. Please look through the comments for the information dear-heart ( see I can be an arsehole too)
In short, it matters not whether the dates provided by any account are correct or incorrect. The fact is that the date we use to begin our calenders refers to the life of Jesus.
I know what AD stands for honey , but since there is no relationship between the dating of events known to history and those occuring in the gospels , or even any consensus BETWEEN the gospels I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that it is in any way commemorative of the birth of christ.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
Please prove that it does not refer to the life and existence of Jesus snugglepot.
There is such a massive lacuna in the logic there I actually thought this was a satire when I first saw it ! Also, I think you'll find that CE ( for common era ) is becoming the prefered alternative to AD amongst accademics these days.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
Your use of the word "lacuna" is also incredibly trite.
@hdregmore to quote thelastguyontheleft, "Only an idiot would think that the use of "bc" and "ad" actually proves his existance." I do declare, it is quite difficult trying to find someone who will actually argue their point rather than have a miracle "Fix-It-All." And fyi, I do declare, we can mark our time with negative and positive numbers numbers within the absolute vaule sign. that way, -6000 can still exist, since it is accepted you cant have negative value for time.
Also, your last comment, "Were I playing Atheist Bingo I would have won from your one comment.," is nothing more than a provacative phrase ment to derail my arguement by introducing emotional responses that could prove to be uneffective and invalid. Therefore, in order to have a proper arguement, we must not belittle ourselves with such comments.
Okay, Reading about 30 comments and wondering still, how does a, seemingly, universally accepted reference point, in regards to the telling of time, equate to one's acknowledgment of the existance of Jesus? Furthermore, the rebuttal of "RELIGION" after "ATHEISM"'s counterstatement, can be deemed nothing more than a red herring thru the use of ad hominem. In essence, the issue here is not if jesus really existed, rather, it is the dispute of how one acknowledges and measures the passing of time.
It's fine if your religious but you don't need to try and prove to everyone else that your right. Whenever someone asks a legit question you delete their comment or ignore them. This video is just wrong. Only an idiot would think that the use of "bc" and "ad" actually proves his existance, and even if Jesus was a man, it doesn't mean he really is the son of god.
@thelastguyontheleft You are just ignorant and I am not sorry or even surprised.
1) I do not need to prove anything
2) I only delete comments that are disrespectful to religion.
3) The video is right (see how simple it is to assert shit without clarification)
4) Are you saying that you are less intelligence than an idiot? That would explain things. 5) The video never attempted to prove that Jesus is God. Perhaps you did not watch it.
1) No. I make videos to encourage respectful debate.
2) Incorrect. I remove comments that are disrespectful to religion. If they contain any type of valid argument that is a shame. Hopefully the poster will learn how to present them civilly.
3) Again. he video never attempted to prove that Jesus is God. Perhaps you did not watch it.
4) By your comments and your inability to understand the video you are clearly the idiot.
January is named after Janus (Ianuarius), the god of the doorway; the name has its beginnings in Roman mythology, coming from the Latin word for door (ianua) . "I like door!" The word January exists = the god Janus must exist. Your thinking is flawed.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
@whiteowl1415 I do not see how it relates. Do we know the date that these "Nordic Gods" lived? Where they actual people? Do we start our calendar years from their existence? I believe the days of the week have various names depending on the civilization. The beginning of our time reference is definitively linked with the life of Jesus.
I really do not understand why you think your point is relevant. At best it is a vaguely linked comparison with various named Gods.
I was born in 1995 CE, not AD, I do not acknowledge Jesus' existence. And just because we use his supposed birth date, as year zero, doesn't make us atheists idiotic hypocrites, it means we have conformed to an accepted social standard of time, so that we can coherently communicate with other members of society.
@hdregmore Moral education? dude, didn't i mention i go to a CATHOLIC SCHOOL? that means I'm being taught RELIGION. you just insulted religious education
@BozoTheBear No but if you look closely in the bathroom mirror you can probably see the last trace of your original sanity being flushed down the toilet. lol
@hdregmore definitely :-) but then again, it's friday night and i'm watching videos from a guy whose seriousness or lack thereof is honestly difficult for me to determine. i think i like it that way though - makes you form your own opinion - cheers :-)
Yeah Jesus did exist and there is evidence for it, that's pretty much accepted amongst atheists. But no way was he the son of God. He was smart, I'll give you that, because he dooped all these people into believing his story.
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies People get too comfortable saying things that are illogical, can you prove he was not the son of God? No, you can flip the question and ask can I prove he was, and the answer is yes and no, much the same way you can't prove if I am a surgeon unless you see me doing surgery, my qualifications etc, We cannot SHOW YOU a video of him healing people or walking on water, that's ridiculous,, you'd have to be there.
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies The most we can do is provide historical evidence of what people heard, saw and read. With Humans, seeing is believing and now a days with such advanced technology, forgery is readily apparent. I highly doubt you could fake walking on the ocean, healing someone with a touch or such from a severe disease or abnormality 2000 years ago. BUT for sake of argument I must leave room for error. Also, think about modern phenomena, we still can't explain Ghost, Deja Vu,premonitions.
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies And many other things of such nature, what makes you think a man walking on water, and healing the sick is impossible, especially if he;s the son of God/God incarnate/God in the flesh, te savior. We don't even have a scientific stand point of the origins of man kind aside from God yet, in 2011. People act as if we know it all. Man thinks to high of himself sometimes. And hypothetically speaking, lets say Jesus was a "fake", that wouldn't explain the Old Testament b4 him.
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies It set the way for him, mentioned him, even prophesied about him, and Jesus refers back to the Old testament from time to time, to confirm it. And also, what would his motive be for lying as the son of God? He was helping people, he didn't ask for money, political gain, NOTHING, it just doesn't make sense. He even said he came to set the world free, from sin,what sense would that make for a man trying to fool people? then to make himself get tortured and killed. Really man?
@Shadowlooker12 "It set the way for him, mentioned him, even prophesied about him, and Jesus refers back to the Old testament from time to time, to confirm it."
You realize that he was only 1 of dozens of "Messiahs" running around at that time, right?
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies I'm not a Christian as of yet, but I support Christianity, people too caught up, Do proper research, look for YOURSELF. see what Historians and scholars have to say, and see what's fact, make sure they are real scholars and experts, look at historical and scientific data, double check etc etc, most of you do not do that, you'd rather go on youtube, type a vid in and just disagree with it based on preconceived influenced mindsets. The point of seeking is truth.
@gisbrei Yeah, nihilist, atheist or anti-theist scumbag - it's getting harder to post a simple animated video on youtube without arrogant fools making comments.
@hdregmore So what is the point of the video? Is the argument "We use AD and BC to describe dates, therefore Jesus existed", to be taken seriously? Or is this a "Theist makes illogical statement and atheist bangs his head on table in frustration with theists fail at logic" video?
I was being serious when i said i can't tell if this is a poe or religious video
While I believe in Jesus, your argument is arbitrary and may actually hurt your cause. B.C. and A.D. are not proof of existence, they are proof of belief.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
@ZackTheAtheist He's saying it;s proof because it was used as a reference to an actual man, not a made up character.Proof of Jesus existence is not needed for the following, Extra biblical sources already exist stating Jesus was a real, living man who was Crucified (Christo's) "The one who started Christianity" or (Suffered by the hands of Pontious Pilate) etc etc.Quoted words from actual Historical pieces.We have more evidence for his existence than any other historical figure from his time.
@ZackTheAtheist To state Jesus does not exist, you'd have to throw out any other historical figure to date. Anyhow, Jesus "Not real" claim is a modern one, during his time, only his divinity and deity was questioned not existence, obviously because they knew who he was and saw him. Some claimed his miracles were do to magic, not God given, you'd think if he didn't exist, someone would say so before Common Era. But no, this is a ridiculous claim made by some Modern day New Agers.
@ZackTheAtheist I find it funny. People need to get it out of their head already, he existed, go far enough from our own deaths and people can question our existence 2000 years from now, now on to his divinity, we cannot fully confirm that for obvious reasons. We weren't there, we can only count on eye witness and secondary sources/testimony around the time he lived or just after, just like any other account in any time period, including ours today. In court, an eye witness is most favorable.
@ZackTheAtheist BUT the judge will also take other testimony into account, even hearsay, if it produces factual evidence. ALSOOoooo, the claim that only contemporary evidence is the basis for proof is absurd, Scholars and historians will tell you so, we have accepted non contemporary evidence as proof, in some cases you have to for lack of contemporary sources. We have no proof of Plato's existence outside his students own testimony and words, yet we accept him as a historical figure.
@hdregmore yes, it does refer to jesus. the terms AD and BC are in common use because of a monk named Dionysius Exiguus who calculated that he lived about 5 centuries after jesus' birth. just because a term has common use does not mean it makes a valid argument. my point stands
but... both the two people that you quoted as being solid proof, were indeed born after the death of Jesus (speculated 31). and that was born, so it would still be years before they could have any relevant experience that would at all reflect their opinion on Jesus. as well, the christian calendar is only used in America because it had christian founders. by your logic, the Asian lunar calender is actual proof of atheism, since many more people follow it, and it does not involve god.
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
@terra61 No. Your comment is meaningless. lol
hdregmore 1 week ago
@MrHazeification
Your argument has already been dealt with. Please do not bore me with your amateur historian nonsense.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@AgentMurphy286
Well don't read want to through the comments to see where your argument has been answered numerous times that is your concern.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@fulinamon
I'm sorry, but your comment is completely flawed. You just have to stop being childish and accept the truth.
mqe
hdregmore 1 week ago
@JakeEgan2 Yeah, what of it? Write something intelligible and relevant that has not already been dealt with and see how you go.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@JakeEgan2 What an interesting comment. How long did it take you to think that up?
hdregmore 1 week ago
@Lathox I will start by saying that you are an arrogant ignorant atheist.
And I think that I will end there too.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@La6Muerte66
Your argument has already been dealt with. Please do not bore me with your amateur historian nonsense.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@trueleroix
No your comment is ironic.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@AtheistPowerlifter
Your argument has already been dealt with. Please do not bore me with your amateur historian nonsense.
hdregmore 1 week ago
@terra61
Your comment was disrespectful to religion.
You had a point but then blew it all with belittling analogies.
Feel free to try again (sans the attitude)
hdregmore 2 weeks ago
@fulinamon
Please educate yourself before you attempt to use the internet again.
For next time I will approve your comment and show the world just how illiterate and emotively disjointed you present yourself to be. It is no wonder that atheists continually lose debates when they have mental midgets like you representing them.
You have been warned!
hdregmore 2 weeks ago
It appears to me that you've had to deal with "angry" atheists. I'm sorry for that, but why not take the high road and not just assume we're all the same. I don't assume all believers in Christ are crazy, some are though. It's fine that you're proud of your faith, just you know maybe be more Christ-like (this is assuming that you are a Christian). I'm sorry if this sort of thing has already been said to and you ignore it, but generalizing atheists is just as bad as generalizing anyone.
AgentMurphy286 2 weeks ago
@AgentMurphy286 I agree and I wish that I did not have to do it.
Please do not attempt to assume what my religion is. You will probably be wrong (along with most of your brethren who post here)
My aim is to point out that atheism can quite easily be ridiculed and lampooned as uneducated, uninteresting and egotistical navel gazing. In fact it is much easier to logically defend a belief in God and persecute atheists than the opposite..
Atheists are easily given to incoherency.
hdregmore 2 weeks ago
@KillTheStranger
You should know considering you are a mega loser.
mqe
hdregmore 3 weeks ago
@The23rdBest
Let me know if you work it out.
hdregmore 3 weeks ago
Why do you make these? I know you think atheists are dumb because they don't think the exact same way as you, but this is, well, trolling. You're saying atheists say christians are idiots and uneducated, and they're arrogant, yet by saying that you're acting arrogant. No offence, if you find this offensive or something, though....
JigsawKrueger 3 weeks ago
@JigsawKrueger You described my reasons very well.
It is quite easy for me to display that atheists are in fact the ones that are arrogant, idiots and uneducated.
I do it on these forums every day. I am hoping that these lessons this will somehow permeate the congealed atheist egos and somehow get them to reason that their cliched stereotyping is nonsense.
I live in hope though.
hdregmore 3 weeks ago
@The23rdBest
so wait, was your comment making fun of atheists or believers, because the atheists argument is really really really flawed in almost every sense of the word. Which leaves me to believe that you are just a fool. That or an uneducated (notice how I'm not saying stupid) atheist who doesn't understand the basis of arguments.
Mirror quote enabled
hdregmore 3 weeks ago
@Gameguy602
Your argument has already been dealt with in the comments of the relevant video. Please read through them.
hdregmore 4 weeks ago
@22july1985
If you are suggesting that I am a hypocrite because I am disrespectful to atheists then you are also suggesting that atheism is a religion.
hdregmore 4 weeks ago
@ABeautifulDeath0141
It is a cartoon. get over it.
hdregmore 4 weeks ago
@Thundadragoon
Your comment was disrespectful to religion
hdregmore 4 weeks ago
Isn't it a bit of a double standard to claim only non-believers' testimony will be accepted to give evidence to Jesus' existence? There are many historical documents besides those mentioned in the video that do the same (for instance, the whole of the New Testament...).
Is it still ok to accept documents suggesting that Plato lived if those documents were written by his philosophical underlings? I guess since they sided with Plato their historical testimony is invalid. Plato did not exist.
vader421138 4 weeks ago
Funny vid. Quoting a book as evidence. ROFL!
Bl4ckHawk1 1 month ago
@Bl4ckHawk1 Yeah it's real funny.
Like quoting from 'Origin of the Species" regarding evolution.
Preposterous. ROFLMAS
hdregmore 1 month ago
@hdregmore One thing you guys get wrong very often is that you think that we MUST believe in evolution. That is false.
Bl4ckHawk1 1 month ago
By the way, censoring the comments an ratings makes it difficult to see both sides of the discussions you carry out with the people replying to you.
Gameguy602 1 month ago
@Gameguy602 . I do not censor comments. I simply do not approve comments that have already been answered, are disrespectful to religion or are abusive. If you cannot produce an argument or criticism without these then don’t bother trying.
hdregmore 4 weeks ago
Is this all satire?
PsychoticSnake 1 month ago
@micahwllmsn Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again “ has been rejected for the following reason.
It contained no valid argument or criticism. The video deals with the existence of Jesus the person only.
I know that it is common practice for atheists to take a single idea and then extrapolate it in their mind into scenarios that they hate in order to pointlessly attack them, but try not to do it.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@slh86 Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again “ has been rejected for the following reason.
It was disrespectful to religion. There may have been valid argument in there but you blew it with your arrogant ignorance.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@twostepRMX Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again “ has been rejected for the following reason.
Your argument has been dealt with many times. Please read through the comments section.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@hdregmore All you did was prove that Jesus was a person that lived.
You never proved any of the miracles that he did.
You also failed to disprove most arguments atheists use.
1 would be that if there was a god, he could create and do anything, right?
Can he create a rock so heavy he can't lift? If he could, then he wouldn't be the all-powerful god you believe in.
1peterkim123 2 months ago
@1peterkim123 The purpose of the cartoon was not to prove the existence of God or prove that his miracles happened. It deals with the often used argument that atheists use about Jesus (the person) not having lived.
As for the last part of your comment. It is nonsense. The universal characteristics of God are not material so you cannot use empirically warped logic to wish away those attributes. In other words he can make a rock so big that he cannot lift it but of course he can.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@1peterkim123 In any case your logic is akin to asking God to make a four wheeled tricycle. Pointless nonsense
hdregmore 2 months ago
@1peterkim123 Your warped logic is simple minded nonsense. Would you expect him to create a four wheeled tricycle? lol
I am constantly amazed at the mental ineptitude of atheists.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@Thelondonbadger Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again “ has been rejected for the following reason.
The argument has already been dealt with many times. Please refer to the video comments.
hdregmore 2 months ago
This debate makes no sense and is evidently biased.
FreekinEkin2 2 months ago
@FreekinEkin2 No shit Sherlock.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@SkyeWintrest Your comment on my video “The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again ” has been rejected for the following reasons.
Your arguments make no sense
It was the initial comment of MM28MGI that was inappropriate
hdregmore 2 months ago
@ jksmilton1
Your comment on my video "The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again
." has been rejected for the following reason
Your criticism has been dealt with many times on this forum. Please read through the comments.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@ TheOperative2K
Your comment on my video "The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again " has been rejected for the following reason -
You are an creep who gets strange jollies from being disrespectful to religion when your mommy is not watching.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@MidnightDaystar
Your comment on my video "The Jesus Debate - Atheism Gets Owned Again " has been rejected for the following reason
Your argument has been dealt with before. Please read through the comments.
I hope for your sake that your little comment rant is not symptomatic of something congenital.
hdregmore 2 months ago
Mass debate, say it fast, mass debate.
NoneShaltPass 3 months ago
@NoneShaltPass Yuk you yuk. How long did it take you to work that out?
hdregmore 3 months ago
acknowledged proof is not absolute proof.
jerarudo5 3 months ago
@jerarudo5 You are playing with words in order to diminish their importance.
Proof - The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.
That's good enough for me.
hdregmore 3 months ago
Who cares if jesus was real or not? I think the REAL question atheists debate is "were jesus MIRACLES real" to which any sane person would have to admit, probably not. I'm an atheist and I have no problem saying jesus was a real person. I do, however, question the MIRACLES of jesus, as we know it is impossible for a virgin to give birth, people don't walk on water, nor turn water into wine, fish and bread don't magically regenerate, and so on. oh and PS VERY bias video.....
TacoBurgher327 4 months ago
@JtotheKify Thank you for your respectful opinion.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 Again wrote disrespectful nonsense about religion
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The only thing that I am threatened by is your abuse.
Wake Up atheism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 Wrote irrelevant nonsense unrelated to the video
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Threats do not work on me either.
Wake Up Atheism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 Yes you are correct. This is however only a cartoon. The big question is not his existence but what he did during his life. For that we really only have the gospels. I would suggest that for most Christians find that is immaterial. Their belief in the actions of Jesus are hinged upon his teachings, which they find extremely valid.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@JimmyTwoMoots
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Go write shit somewhere else
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Isn't a religious individual not supposed to carry such violent grammar with him/her?
MM28MGI 4 months ago
@MM28MGI isn't an atheist supposed to have some kind of superior yet godless morality?
How do you justify your comments?
hdregmore 4 months ago
@Simmo1973 Wrote disrespectful nonsense about religion.
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Wake Up Atheism (last warning)
hdregmore 4 months ago
@Simmo1973 Wrote disrespectful nonsense about God
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You should have more intelligence for someone who was born in 1973.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@Simmo1973 Wrote disrespectful nonsense about God
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The only thing that was crap was your comment.
hdregmore 4 months ago
who cares what we call any year they are just arbitary designations, none of this has any import in the argument over the fact that there is no god and PS ;
hdsregmore: I've got no idea what point you are attempting to make. Do you?
crashtestbunny1 4 months ago
Christians made the calendar we use in the western world.. go ask the Chinese what year it is.
Fearlessechoes73 4 months ago
@Fearlessechoes73 Yet again - In most of East Asia today, the Gregorian calendar is used for day-to-day activities, but the Chinese calendar is still used for marking traditional East Asian holidays such as the Chinese New Year.
hdregmore 4 months ago
Horrible argument
Fearlessechoes73 4 months ago 2
@Fearlessechoes73 Horrible comment.
hdregmore 4 months ago
by the way, I'm not arguing that anno domine doesn't refer to Jesus, merely that those who named it so were mistaken in their belief that any such person : a/ existed or :b/ was the son of supernatural being
crashtestbunny1 4 months ago
@crashtestbunny1 Well then you -
a) Did not understand the video
b) Did not understand the video
Do you always argue about things that are not presented?
hdregmore 4 months ago
okay, I'll use small words just so you can follow me hon : was or was not Jesus born the year of the census refered to in the gospel of Luke? 'cos that happened in so called "AD" 6
crashtestbunny1 4 months ago
@crashtestbunny1 Oh dear I will attempt to inform you and your obviously tiny brain that the argument you are referring to has been presented many times on this forum. Please look through the comments for the information dear-heart ( see I can be an arsehole too)
In short, it matters not whether the dates provided by any account are correct or incorrect. The fact is that the date we use to begin our calenders refers to the life of Jesus.
hdregmore 4 months ago
I know what AD stands for honey , but since there is no relationship between the dating of events known to history and those occuring in the gospels , or even any consensus BETWEEN the gospels I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that it is in any way commemorative of the birth of christ.
crashtestbunny1 4 months ago
@crashtestbunny1 Listen sweetie pie, you still haven't got it.
Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
Please prove that it does not refer to the life and existence of Jesus snugglepot.
hdregmore 4 months ago
There is such a massive lacuna in the logic there I actually thought this was a satire when I first saw it ! Also, I think you'll find that CE ( for common era ) is becoming the prefered alternative to AD amongst accademics these days.
crashtestbunny1 4 months ago
@crashtestbunny1 Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
Your use of the word "lacuna" is also incredibly trite.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft Wrote a lot of hateful nonsense
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Go back to your little world of obscurity and underachievement.
Irate losers are not tolerated here.
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hdregmore 4 months ago
I refer to my unicorn for assistance on occasion; however, no one else believes him to be real.
jerarudo5 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft Also wrote a whole lot of irrelevant rubbish.
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Make a direct point or go away.
Wake Up Atheism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@jerarudo5 Wrote a whole lot of irrelevant rubbish.
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Make a direct point or go away.
Wake Up Atheism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore to quote thelastguyontheleft, "Only an idiot would think that the use of "bc" and "ad" actually proves his existance." I do declare, it is quite difficult trying to find someone who will actually argue their point rather than have a miracle "Fix-It-All." And fyi, I do declare, we can mark our time with negative and positive numbers numbers within the absolute vaule sign. that way, -6000 can still exist, since it is accepted you cant have negative value for time.
jerarudo5 4 months ago
Also, your last comment, "Were I playing Atheist Bingo I would have won from your one comment.," is nothing more than a provacative phrase ment to derail my arguement by introducing emotional responses that could prove to be uneffective and invalid. Therefore, in order to have a proper arguement, we must not belittle ourselves with such comments.
jerarudo5 4 months ago
@hdregmore In other words, I pwned you.
eventhisidistaken 4 months ago
@eventhisidistaken Wrote disrespectful nonsense about religion
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft I have had enough of your childishness
Anyone who starts a discourse by calling the other party "pathetic" is not worth arguing with.
Wake Up Atheism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
Okay, Reading about 30 comments and wondering still, how does a, seemingly, universally accepted reference point, in regards to the telling of time, equate to one's acknowledgment of the existance of Jesus? Furthermore, the rebuttal of "RELIGION" after "ATHEISM"'s counterstatement, can be deemed nothing more than a red herring thru the use of ad hominem. In essence, the issue here is not if jesus really existed, rather, it is the dispute of how one acknowledges and measures the passing of time.
jerarudo5 4 months ago
@jerarudo5 Why would it not? If it is accepted by all that surely gives immense credibility to it's validity.
When the aliens land here (which I am told is imminent) how would you explain to them about it's continued use?
What is it about atheists and red herrings? How could it possibly be ad hom? Are you pulling these argument names out of a hat or something?
Were I playing Atheist Bingo I would have won from your one comment.
hdregmore 4 months ago
I'm sorry. your just so pathetic...
It's fine if your religious but you don't need to try and prove to everyone else that your right. Whenever someone asks a legit question you delete their comment or ignore them. This video is just wrong. Only an idiot would think that the use of "bc" and "ad" actually proves his existance, and even if Jesus was a man, it doesn't mean he really is the son of god.
thelastguyontheleft 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft You are just ignorant and I am not sorry or even surprised.
1) I do not need to prove anything
2) I only delete comments that are disrespectful to religion.
3) The video is right (see how simple it is to assert shit without clarification)
4) Are you saying that you are less intelligence than an idiot? That would explain things. 5) The video never attempted to prove that Jesus is God. Perhaps you did not watch it.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore !) Why bother making videos if you dont want everyone to know your right..?
it's obvious that you do
2) I've seen you ignore a multiple comments that are legit questions and aren't disrespectful
3) the video isn't right, its pathetic.. "ad" and "bc" only refer to the date where he supposedly died, it doesn't prove that he existed at all.
4) i'm not saying anything about myself... i'm calling you an idiot for using this as your "proof"
5) perhaps you didn't read my comment? idiot
thelastguyontheleft 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft
1) No. I make videos to encourage respectful debate.
2) Incorrect. I remove comments that are disrespectful to religion. If they contain any type of valid argument that is a shame. Hopefully the poster will learn how to present them civilly.
3) Again. he video never attempted to prove that Jesus is God. Perhaps you did not watch it.
4) By your comments and your inability to understand the video you are clearly the idiot.
5) Hang on, my mistake. You are a fucktard.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore 1) "respectful debate" you called me a fucktard?
2) Maybe you should think your answers through? i said ignoring, not removing.
3) I never suggested that the video was trying to prove that jesus was god, your replies are a mess, once again.
4) What makes you think i'm an idiot? me not agreeing on the same things that you do? and why would you think i don't understand the video?
5) My comment wasn't suggesting that the video was attempting to prove that jesus was god.
thelastguyontheleft 4 months ago
@thelastguyontheleft 1) Well you continually called me an idiot. I only give as good as I get.
2) maybe you should just get to the point instead of writing rhetorical shit.
3) You wrote "even if Jesus was a man, it doesn't mean he really is the son of god". Perhaps you do even comprehend your own posts.
4) You have made it perfectly clear in your comments that you have failed to comprehend the video.
5) Same as 3. You are repeating your own errors.
hdregmore 4 months ago
wow, bad
MonochromaticEarth 4 months ago
@MonochromaticEarth Yeah, your channel really is.
hdregmore 4 months ago
2.22 what details? i'm kinda clueless about it
e1g0nz41i70 4 months ago
@e1g0nz41i70 I believe it is a Jewish joke. Referring to Jesus leaving (ascension). They are asking him for details as in finalizing a business deal.
hdregmore 4 months ago
oops, i left out the part where the bible also condones rape and child abuse, my mistake. well........... it's in there.
=P
silljos1 4 months ago
Fact: the bible condones slavery, sexism, genocide, homophobia, superstition, and ethnic superiority =D
silljos1 4 months ago
@MrRainbowTrain You were wrong in most of your assumptions. And also disrespectful.
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore ok so you don't care that people are going to hell then? what did i say that was wrong?
MrRainbowTrain 4 months ago
@MrRainbowTrain Why are people going to hell? What and where is hell?
Why should I answer any of your questions when you have behaved so badly?
hdregmore 4 months ago
Atheists believe that objects made them what they are.
Evolution is an absolute disgrace to science.
Objects never order anything, mutations never order anything and natural selection will only select what has already been ordered.
Evolution is so irrational that it should be removed from all classrooms.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 4 months ago
@gphhawkins Wrote disrespectful rubbish about religion
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Pathetic troll is pathetic
gphhawkins 4 months ago 2
@gphhawkins Well don't do it then if it makes you pathetic.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@Dgoosh1000 Wrote disrespectful nonsense about religion
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What more should I expect from a brain dead atheist. lol
wake Up Atheism
The abuse Stops here.
hdregmore 4 months ago
lol that guy is a troll
laithinator3000 4 months ago
January is named after Janus (Ianuarius), the god of the doorway; the name has its beginnings in Roman mythology, coming from the Latin word for door (ianua) . "I like door!" The word January exists = the god Janus must exist. Your thinking is flawed.
PinkSoap44 4 months ago
@PinkSoap44 Wrote a whole lot of irrelevant gobbledegook
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Not sure what your point was but you made a mess.
hdregmore 4 months ago
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PinkSoap44 4 months ago
Jesus wasn't born until around year 6. FACT. Look it up.
skater251993 4 months ago
@skater251993 Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
The date REFERS to Jesus..it dosn't PROVE him
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@whiteowl1415 I though you had given up being pummeled.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
Funny, your deleteing of my coments without counterarguments gave me the impression YOU were the one losing.
Care to adress the part about the days of the Week being named after Norse Deities?
Or perhaps the year of teh dragon in the Chinese Calendar?
Wait those are legit questions...You'll prob just delete it and sweep it under the rug like you do the others.
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@whiteowl1415 What do they have to do with the date of Jesus being the beginning of our calendar?
I only delete comments that are disrespectful to religion so that is what you must have done.
I sweep nothing under anything. Expect the charred remnants of destroyed arguments.
Yours has not even got legs so what do you expect me to answer?
But you will probably just write more abusive shit like before.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
You didn't answer the questions..
How is A.D Referencing Jesus, more or less reliable than the days of the week referenceing Nordic Gods?
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@whiteowl1415 I do not see how it relates. Do we know the date that these "Nordic Gods" lived? Where they actual people? Do we start our calendar years from their existence? I believe the days of the week have various names depending on the civilization. The beginning of our time reference is definitively linked with the life of Jesus.
I really do not understand why you think your point is relevant. At best it is a vaguely linked comparison with various named Gods.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
We don't know the dates Jesus might have lived either.
We are relying on the guess works of Pope Gregory, centuries later.
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@silljos1 Wrote nonsense in caps.
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hdregmore 4 months ago
I was born in 1995 CE, not AD, I do not acknowledge Jesus' existence. And just because we use his supposed birth date, as year zero, doesn't make us atheists idiotic hypocrites, it means we have conformed to an accepted social standard of time, so that we can coherently communicate with other members of society.
GetPickledSon 4 months ago
@MrRainbowTrain Wrote more disrespectful shit about religion
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Go and get some moral education
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Moral education? dude, didn't i mention i go to a CATHOLIC SCHOOL? that means I'm being taught RELIGION. you just insulted religious education
MrRainbowTrain 4 months ago
@MrRainbowTrain Then you should be ashamed of yourself.
Either that or you are extremely dumb. Perhaps you should get back to your studies.
BTW: Don't you feel like a hypocrite by taking advantage of a religious school when you are an atheist?
Oh hang on. No morality, I keep forgetting.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore The majority of people at my school aren't catholic, see? People are getting smarter.
MrRainbowTrain 4 months ago
HAIL GOD
ibreakkidslegs 4 months ago
The reason Dudley sighs and slams his head on the table is because the argument is stupid. I think this is a troll video.
Rundvelt 4 months ago
i was born in 1980 - does that mean that any writing of mine that survives regarding jimi hendrix (d1970) is true?
BozoTheBear 4 months ago
@BozoTheBear No but if you look closely in the bathroom mirror you can probably see the last trace of your original sanity being flushed down the toilet. lol
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore definitely :-) but then again, it's friday night and i'm watching videos from a guy whose seriousness or lack thereof is honestly difficult for me to determine. i think i like it that way though - makes you form your own opinion - cheers :-)
BozoTheBear 4 months ago
Have fun sitting in your room making these shitty videos while you sit in temptation to masterbate all day, everyday.
GeorgesRushStPierre 4 months ago
lol...a valid counter argument that had nearly as many likes as the video itself removed...Way to oppress disenting opinion.
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@SuperThatGame wrote irrelevant nonsense that did not relate to the video at all
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Again, you proved my argument by deleting the comment. Every time you do, you prove the argument for theism, and atheism.
SuperThatGame 4 months ago
He's right. We must change the BC and AD system.
A55TRICKY 4 months ago
@gphhawkins Wrote disrespectful nonsense about Christians
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@gphhawkins God atheists are so fucking arrogant.......oh and stupid.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Ok log off the internet and never use it again. It was made by atheists and scientists. Cyas!
Xellith 4 months ago
stupid
Mirrodin82 4 months ago
Yeah Jesus did exist and there is evidence for it, that's pretty much accepted amongst atheists. But no way was he the son of God. He was smart, I'll give you that, because he dooped all these people into believing his story.
RhysDaviesRhysDavies 4 months ago
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies People get too comfortable saying things that are illogical, can you prove he was not the son of God? No, you can flip the question and ask can I prove he was, and the answer is yes and no, much the same way you can't prove if I am a surgeon unless you see me doing surgery, my qualifications etc, We cannot SHOW YOU a video of him healing people or walking on water, that's ridiculous,, you'd have to be there.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies The most we can do is provide historical evidence of what people heard, saw and read. With Humans, seeing is believing and now a days with such advanced technology, forgery is readily apparent. I highly doubt you could fake walking on the ocean, healing someone with a touch or such from a severe disease or abnormality 2000 years ago. BUT for sake of argument I must leave room for error. Also, think about modern phenomena, we still can't explain Ghost, Deja Vu,premonitions.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies And many other things of such nature, what makes you think a man walking on water, and healing the sick is impossible, especially if he;s the son of God/God incarnate/God in the flesh, te savior. We don't even have a scientific stand point of the origins of man kind aside from God yet, in 2011. People act as if we know it all. Man thinks to high of himself sometimes. And hypothetically speaking, lets say Jesus was a "fake", that wouldn't explain the Old Testament b4 him.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies It set the way for him, mentioned him, even prophesied about him, and Jesus refers back to the Old testament from time to time, to confirm it. And also, what would his motive be for lying as the son of God? He was helping people, he didn't ask for money, political gain, NOTHING, it just doesn't make sense. He even said he came to set the world free, from sin,what sense would that make for a man trying to fool people? then to make himself get tortured and killed. Really man?
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 "It set the way for him, mentioned him, even prophesied about him, and Jesus refers back to the Old testament from time to time, to confirm it."
You realize that he was only 1 of dozens of "Messiahs" running around at that time, right?
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@RhysDaviesRhysDavies I'm not a Christian as of yet, but I support Christianity, people too caught up, Do proper research, look for YOURSELF. see what Historians and scholars have to say, and see what's fact, make sure they are real scholars and experts, look at historical and scientific data, double check etc etc, most of you do not do that, you'd rather go on youtube, type a vid in and just disagree with it based on preconceived influenced mindsets. The point of seeking is truth.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
Poe, troll or religious nut - it's getting harder to tell the difference for each video i watch on youtube
gisbrei 4 months ago
@gisbrei Yeah, nihilist, atheist or anti-theist scumbag - it's getting harder to post a simple animated video on youtube without arrogant fools making comments.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore So what is the point of the video? Is the argument "We use AD and BC to describe dates, therefore Jesus existed", to be taken seriously? Or is this a "Theist makes illogical statement and atheist bangs his head on table in frustration with theists fail at logic" video?
I was being serious when i said i can't tell if this is a poe or religious video
gisbrei 4 months ago
@gisbrei Maybe the banging his head on the table is like a new sort of 'facepalm' :P
RhysDaviesRhysDavies 4 months ago
While I believe in Jesus, your argument is arbitrary and may actually hurt your cause. B.C. and A.D. are not proof of existence, they are proof of belief.
MrWrongoStarr 4 months ago
@MrWrongoStarr Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
BTW: You do not even know of "my cause". lol
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore "the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ" thats just wrong.
This still proves nothing... I don't get how this point even makes a valid argument.
ZackTheAtheist 4 months ago
@ZackTheAtheist How is it wrong?
Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore If there is a better example of stubbornness, I haven't seen it.
RhysDaviesRhysDavies 4 months ago
@ZackTheAtheist He's saying it;s proof because it was used as a reference to an actual man, not a made up character.Proof of Jesus existence is not needed for the following, Extra biblical sources already exist stating Jesus was a real, living man who was Crucified (Christo's) "The one who started Christianity" or (Suffered by the hands of Pontious Pilate) etc etc.Quoted words from actual Historical pieces.We have more evidence for his existence than any other historical figure from his time.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@ZackTheAtheist To state Jesus does not exist, you'd have to throw out any other historical figure to date. Anyhow, Jesus "Not real" claim is a modern one, during his time, only his divinity and deity was questioned not existence, obviously because they knew who he was and saw him. Some claimed his miracles were do to magic, not God given, you'd think if he didn't exist, someone would say so before Common Era. But no, this is a ridiculous claim made by some Modern day New Agers.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@ZackTheAtheist I find it funny. People need to get it out of their head already, he existed, go far enough from our own deaths and people can question our existence 2000 years from now, now on to his divinity, we cannot fully confirm that for obvious reasons. We weren't there, we can only count on eye witness and secondary sources/testimony around the time he lived or just after, just like any other account in any time period, including ours today. In court, an eye witness is most favorable.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@ZackTheAtheist BUT the judge will also take other testimony into account, even hearsay, if it produces factual evidence. ALSOOoooo, the claim that only contemporary evidence is the basis for proof is absurd, Scholars and historians will tell you so, we have accepted non contemporary evidence as proof, in some cases you have to for lack of contemporary sources. We have no proof of Plato's existence outside his students own testimony and words, yet we accept him as a historical figure.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@hdregmore yes, it does refer to jesus. the terms AD and BC are in common use because of a monk named Dionysius Exiguus who calculated that he lived about 5 centuries after jesus' birth. just because a term has common use does not mean it makes a valid argument. my point stands
MrWrongoStarr 4 months ago
@torrid426 Wrote disrespectful nonsense about Christianity
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It's a shame that atheists cannot just accept a valid argument.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
There was nothing disrespectful . I just pointed out your logic was bad. Apparently you cant handle criticism.
torrid426 4 months ago
It would be sooooo fun to believe this.
bwnsaj 5 months ago
So beyond stupid...
chrluzz 5 months ago
@chrluzz Never mind, you may get smarter with age. lol
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore I was talking about the whole production value of the video...douche...
chrluzz 5 months ago
but... both the two people that you quoted as being solid proof, were indeed born after the death of Jesus (speculated 31). and that was born, so it would still be years before they could have any relevant experience that would at all reflect their opinion on Jesus. as well, the christian calendar is only used in America because it had christian founders. by your logic, the Asian lunar calender is actual proof of atheism, since many more people follow it, and it does not involve god.
archofthedark 5 months ago
@archofthedark It is used in many more places than just "America" so that suggestion is invalid.
If you took the trouble to watch the video carefully you would know that Dudley actually challenges their validity.
Do you always take a lighthearted animation so seriously? That is rather sad.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@archofthedark Yet again -
A.D. stands for Anno Domini, which is Latin for "year of our Lord," and it means the number of years since the time of Jesus Christ. Some people use C.E. instead. That stands for Common Era, and people use it in order to try and avoid Christian references. However THE DATE IS STILL REFERS TO JESUS.
hdregmore 5 months ago