Politically Incorrect, Christmas Lawsuits Part 1

[lynottlives]

anyone else notice bill has had a lot of old jobs? haha

[bumpnuglies]

Rob Schneider is about as predictable of a comic as watching two and a half men!!

[MacFlash2]

is there any more rescent shows like this?

[drfoxcourt]

I have no problem with a non-government group asking to put up a christian nativity scene on private property. I have a problem with ANY government putting up any religious scene on ANY common property. It is clearly a promotion of religion forbidden under the establishment clause (1st Amendment). No matter how publicly popular it is, the Government at any level is excluded from religious ANYTHING by the U. S. Constitution. Rather simple.

[stormcrow7878]

There should NEVER be any religious symbology on ANY federal property EVER.

[atheistbeing]

I dont care much for religion...but really putting up nativity scenes in front of townhalls doesn't force to believe in god...so why do they fight over such things?

Just let Christians put shit up for christmas and muslims,jews,hindus and buddhists put their shit up for their precious little festivals

[mustxgetxout]

hey now i dont like religion but you're an ignorant fool if you think budhism fits in with those religions and atheism is jus as bad as religion

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout atheism is not a ideological mindset, it is simply lack of belief in a theist world view, in an interacting god... there can by definition not be good or bad atheism, just good or bad atheistic people. a psychopath is a bad human being if he is, or is not an atheist.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth atheism's god is science and there is a belief system with aethiest it says their is no god not their most likely is not a god

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout you have no idea what you're talking about do you... atheism, or A theism, as opposed to a deism, a fairyism or a trollism etc etc just says that an atheist does not BELIEVE in a theistic god, or a intervening god like the judean god or christ etc etc. lack of belief in a god does not equal belief in the opposite, few atheists believe there is no chance of there being a god, even an theistic one, they just do not believe it to be plausible. in that sense there is no belief system

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth you didn't even response to what i said you obviously don't understand what i'm saying

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout i did, and i resent it, atheism just denounce the belief in a theistic god, belief is not the same as knowing, i can believe that there is a Santa Claus, but i know there is no Santa Claus..

so it is yo who were unable to understand me, telling you that you have no idea what atheism is, or what relation it would have with science.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth everyone i've met who is aethiest says they don't believe in good believe in what they can see and what is considered fact which is directly related to science so you're going to sit their and tell me that aethiest are not people who don't believe in god? and that they don't believe in science?

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout a-Theists do not believe there is a theist god, thats how far it goes, maybe you met a atheistic deistic "atheist" or perhaps you met a atheistic agnostic "atheist"..there is no black and white here... the proper use for the word atheist is A-theist, it only concerns theism. an a-theist does not have to "believe" in science, he can denounce theism and be oblivious to everything else and still be an atheist. science is just a method of finding facts, its not something yo believe in

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth do you understand english? you didn't understand anything i said obviously you just insist on trying to be right i don't give a fuck bout you're proper defintion it's completely irrelevant in this case i'm talking bout the celebrities and people i kn and have met personally who say they're aethiest they don't believe in god period that is what they said wtf don't you understand? it's pretty simple :)

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout ... wow you got a stick up your ass... ok fine so you know some lousy atheists, that does not give you the right to label all atheists or missuse the term atheist ... and like i said, which you do not get, belief in a theistic god and a deistic god is two very different things, atheism only warrants disbelief in a theistic one.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth no lol i don't im completely calm and cool just making a point is all and yiou still still don't seem to get it it's amazing to me really is you're so stuck in a fucking dictionary the reality of the situation is alluding you

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout that you know, at best a handfull of bad example atheists who just call themselves atheists because they are ignorant to what they should be calling themselves (personally i'm against labeling people who draw knowledge from science... as it is the only reasonable thing to draw knowledge about the world from) so ill say it short and sweet, an adeist atheist should not call himself atheist, if he does then you should not label other atheists to be like that ignorant person.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth or u can join th rest of th world its not a handful its most cool didnt always mean what it means now the public thts what sets the standard th dictionary changes hince y their is a new version bein made all th time n th definition i found gave your def n th 1 tht im use to btw regardless why r u so worried bout labels? i reject labels all together it's the rest of people who need it really my point is science is a religion and it's one that many people who don't believe in god turn to

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout Thats my problem... most people, at least in europe and in norway where i live, do not turn to science for anythin else than answers. and most have a philosophical side because nobody ever told them to have faith in any deity, so they make up their own mind, very very few would denouce the possibility of a creator, even though they find it unlikely.

people without a "god" do not turn to science dum dum, they turn to other people, family etc, science have no room for feelings.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth seth mcfarlane and adam corolla claim themselves to be athiest they dont beleive in god they believe in evolution and the big bang theory so since i have proof and you don't i'd say you're the dum dum

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout .... oh come onnn... you have not understood a word i have said do you... an atheist can accept evolution, and disbelieve theism, and still belive or not rule out the possibility of a creator god, thats called deism. you're not a deist if you do not rule out the possibility of it being the case, which very few does..every atheist however have to disbelieve theism as if they did not, they could not be atheists... evolution does not disprove deism in any way, it can for theism though

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth ok last thing i'm guna say cuz you're jus spewing anti intellectual diaria i understand what you are saying ok but for some reason what i'm saying is completely beyond comprehension

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout no... what you are saying is wrong, i get it and i refute and debunk it... you however fail to address my points and just claim i did not address yours... every atheist will say they do not believe in a god, by extension a theistic one, try asking them about a deistic god, the possibility of a creating force... very few will say "NO, there is NO chance of any god" that was what i wanted you to understand, also that science is not religion for atheists.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth look you didn't debunk it that's not even possible cuz i'm basing what i said out of personal experiences experiences you kn nothing about and i gave you two celebrity examples of what i'm saying and your responses are based in a dictionary which is not at all relevent to what i was talking bout the fact that you even brought up the dictionary definition up proves that you aren't on the same page as me not even talking bout the same thing

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout ... yeah... you brought up two ATHEIST celebs... but that does not mean you know their stance on god at all... for the last time, an atheist can disbelieve the existence of a (theist)god, and accept the theory, or believe in a deist god... so it is not i who do not get your argument... it is you who must have skimming over every reply i have made... This is how an atheist can disbelieve a god and believe or accept one at the same time.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth you're worse then religious people i'm done talking to you their's no point you're dumb

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout so what you're saying is that you still can't understand such a simple concept, or have you understood it and have no reply to it? ether way you're backing down... guess i win.

also, you seam like a weak minded person, might want to do something about that.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth last time i'm guna say it i already told you you're talking bout one definition that only a small amount of people used i'm refering to the definition everyone else uses you know the one the majority uses i have no idea why you're confused still after all this but that's pretty sad buddy but good luck

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout ... the majority? says who? it is only you who say that... maybe there is a higher percentage of people ignorant to what an atheist is in america, but it certainly is not a "majority" in the world. I have educated you on the proper usage of the word, you have just asserted without proof that since you think others are as ignorant as you, then you win.

pretty sad buddy, but good luck

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth i mean really i can send you hundreds probably thousands of links

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout ah it was you, i forgot. i saw the link you sent, but i do not see how this supports your claim that the vast majority of people who are atheist, and people who think they know what atheist is, cant seperate it from adeism or atheist adeist, or atheist deist.

[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth While Martin, for example, asserts that agnosticism entails negative atheism,[30] most agnostics see their view as distinct from atheism, which they may consider no more justified than theism or requiring an equal conviction.[43] The supposed unattainability of knowledge for or against the existence of gods is sometimes seen as indication that atheism requires a leap of faith.[44]

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout how did agnosticism make it in there? so now you're on the subject on whether or not atheism is a belief system, or by extension that you need to have blind faith in science? thats not the challenge i wanted you to answer at all but ok. Science does not require faith because science is a method of proving theories. a scientific theory that has yet to be proven can be believed in, yes then you have faith, but that theory is not yet science until it has been proven.

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[mustxgetxout]

@behemuth or how bout you admit their's more then one definition and that my definition is one of the correct uses that's all i've been trying to get thro to your small brain cockyness is a terrible sickness

[behemuth]

@mustxgetxout Lawl what? your definition? did you even give a definition? you just disagreed with my definition which was that there is a difference between atheism and adeism, and you can be an atheist at the same time as you are an adeist... all you ever said was that atheists treat science as their religion and that they will always say that there cannot be a god, as far as i remember.

which is false, the correct definition is that an atheist must disbelieve in a theist god, not a deist one

[superdoobo]

God Bless Linda Tripp.

[withoutasong]

6:50 does this woman know what endorsement means?

[flyingV1043]

Nativity scenes, menorahs... These are symbols, and I leave symbols to the symbol-minded.

[Lumennon]

R.I.P. George Carlin...

[siiruz13]

Curious George ftw! :D

[RikWCrlsn]

This country was founded on Christianity if you dont like it move to another country If you dont like christmas do not celebrate it I am offended by all the BS trying to outlaw Christmas It's part of the USA and has been since the begining what happened to majority rules you are not forced to give or recv gifts either

[atltallone907]

LOL i am a christian, but i have to disagree. This country was not founded on Christianity..... just so happens some of the founders were christian. I thought this country was found on freedom... including religious freedom lol

[bobbypatz]

@atltallone907 no, get facts right, no religious then why sep. of church and state

[JImmy4336]

@atltallone907 but also some of the founders were secular including Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin.

[SHlTTER]

@atltallone907 im glad you see with some logic but why are you still christian?

[Hulkamania4eva]

@atltallone907 Some of the founders didn't believe in Religion, I don't think Can anyone confirm?

[atltallone907]

@Hulkamania4eva well seeing how they used to like to rape slaves....im sure that is confirmation enough........

[siiruz13]

the majority of the founding fathers were deists atheists and agnostics. and this country was founded on secularism, aka the separation of church and state, NOT christianity. u are the type of ignorant fool that gives this country a bad rep internationally.

[RationalEmotive]

Margret Downey would have been a perfect guest on this topic.

Nadine: I cannot think of a woman I have more respect for in this country.

[cookimonstizzle]

Go ACLU <3

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