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  • Nice one, the Earth is warming up.

    We had in Friesland (North of the Netherlands) the discussion about the Elfstedentocht (ice skating). The last one was 15 years ago.

  • Mr Bloom, you are a star.

  • Nick Clegg and Oswald Mosley shared similar views on the European Union, so what?

  • Does anybody remember the " acid Rain " problem?? Right; same people screaming, cost millions and turned out to be BS ! There are more than enough people now, Al Gore is being sued by 30.000 of them that say that " global warming " is a scam. So lets not take this BS serious anymore.

  • @Tralgit I agree than humanity could not have had any significant impact on Earth's climate. But, polluting the atmosphere with poisons is, I am sure you will agree, a bad thing. But, instead of taxing CO2 emissions, we should, as people, force big industry and and oil corporation owners to put "THEIR" money into developing clean and renewable sources of energy AND implementing them in a record time frame. That's my stance.

  • @smoothMousePad I agree, but this Al Gore scam is just another liberal way of producing money for their useless projects.

  • @Tralgit We share the stance on that one.

  • Once again, the typical Warmist reaction to actual facts is to rely on the fallacy of consensus. The polls show that most people are complete morons and will shackle themselves and future generations with glee. They will go into slavery joyfully and will rip the guts out of anyone that tries to dissuade them of their folly.

  • Since when did ANYBODY 'deny Climate Change' ?

    I think MOST accept the likelihood of just a teency-weency bit of climatic shift in the past 4.6 billion years of the Planet's existence.

    A ridiculously inept use of English, designed to neutralise all the valid counter-arguments of the few who dare to challenge the Establishment View (essentially: "Don't worry, Sheep - nothing bad's going to happen to you. If you do as you're TOLD. You have the Shepherd's word on that.")

    cf 'Conspiracy Theory'.

  • The common defenders of Climate Change look at it like a Religion with Al Gore as there God. The more proof that comes out on this scam the more they will try to defend it..Wake up all you sheep, Al Gore is laughing at you!

  • wtf that made no sense

  • OH YES! IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE! If electricity prices quintuple, Petrol costs 8 Ponds a Gallon, this is serious. But not because of CO2, but because of badly dressed females like this destroying our livelihood with their scams.

  • WHAT? what is with the blond woman??? IS SHE STUPID, OR JUST TYPICAL BLOND??..... she didn't even make sense, and the worst thing was that she was using an illogical annology of climate change on cows in Kenya!!! Go EU is what I have to say.....

  • Uh, the SUN is responsible. HELLO! What, it's just a coincidence that all the other planets in our SS are also getting warmer? MMGW is old and has been rejected by dispassionate scientists. Only ignorant fools, PC cowards and collectivists (vomit) are trying to foist this bs on the public. Fuc*ing hate liars...

    It's like all the perverts and losers in the world got together to overthrow sanity and clean-clothes. Fuc(ing BastARDS! :|

  • what a hooker...

  • Is she actually serious?

  • So. . . what was the the tie-in to the Kenyan women being sold for cows? That's a disgrace to begin with. No mention of that. She just tried to tie global warming to the disgraceful antiquated practice of dowries conjured up by the daddies. She is oblivious to what her words mean to most thinking people in the world. What a sham.

  • Man made 'global warming' is precisely what this scam is. The biggest scam in the world.

  • What kind of reasoning was that?Poor people in Kenya, all linked with cows and & tackling Climate change solve the situacion in Kenya.So they tax more over all of us?U want to control climate change,nevermind Kenya... go and bother USA and China.

  • Consensus does not equal scientific proof. Through all the history of science, it has invariably been the dogmatic majority that stifled dissent and slowed progress. AGW is a scheme devised by crooks like Ken Lay of Enron and others, to fleece the sheep and bring the world under the hob-nail boots of the New World Order.

    There is evil in the world so vicious and cruel ,that you could never imagine it - but be assured, you will experience it. History is my witness.

  • Holy fuck, did she just bring average peoples thoughts about this, into the picture? Why would she do such a thing? Jesus Christ, women politicians really are fucking dipshits.

  • That woman is off topic and irrelevant. What on earth is a woman of such little intelligence doing in a postion of power and influence. Nick Griffin spoke so intelligently

  • who the fuck is this gobshite woman?

  • What the fuck, this lady has no fucking idea what shes on about, shes just reading the peice of paper she was told to read...

    And what a lie it is to say that we wont solve the problem of poverty until we solve "climate change" ,governments have been saying they will solve the problem of poverty for years, before we even knew about "climate change" and we didnt do it then, but know the climate change problem is holding us back from solving the problem of poverty? we CAN solve poverty,but we dont

  • People think it's an issue because their told it's an issue.

  • I just watched this video and I cant beleive there are people so utterly stupid as this woman representing the UK in the Eurpoean "Parliament." Seldom have I heard such drivel. She blames the fact that young girls are forced to get married in Kenya on "global warming?" What a nutcase! Did she ever go to school? Where does that nonsense come from?  Its interesting that the EU respects opinion polls from people brainwahsed by their dogma, but ignores other polls about the Lisbon treaty.

  • Bloom is AAAAAAAWESOME!!!!!!

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  • loll at that stupid fucking woman.

  • kenyan cow's, aryan white males and global warming...that woman is a joke!

  • Is that the extent of this woman’s intellect? She says your argument is similar to that of a BNP member and therefore wrong or erroneous? Surely that was smear and therefore indicative of a bad argument! For her words after were not convincing at all, very debatable; at least the BNP candidate was straight to the point and gave clear and articulate argument uncloaked, unlike her deceitful response. How on earth can Bloom a conservative who believes in small state be akin to a national socialist?

  • its still a scam

  • Scientifically, consensus proves nothing. People are told by the media over and over again that global warming is a serious problem so of course they are going to vote in that way.

    I love the ironic change of name from global warming to climate change (then probably to weather)

  • @miggyback What you might not be aware of is that qualified climatologists on both sides of the debate agree that CO2 causes warming and even how much warming. There argument is a question of sensitivity and what role positive and negative feedbacks will play. Global warming and climate change are both accurate terms. For instance warmer air causes it to snow more

  • @Richard482 I see your point. But CO2 is irrelevant anyhow. If you look at the ice core data it shows that CO2 and temperature are linked. But the link is that the temperature rises AND THEN, after about a few hundred years the CO2 rises. CO2 follows the temperature. This is due to the fact that the main source of CO2 is the sea which literally takes centuries to warm up.

    The fact of the matter is that regardless of the opposing evidence, "the debate is over". This is now a political issue.

  • @miggyback I know about the 800 year lag time. The lag time gets mentioned at 5.55 in this video. If you haven't already, watch all of Potholer54's videos.

    watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo

    And also this one. Again if you can watch all of Greenman's vids

    watch?v=hWJeqgG3Tl8

    I'll message you one article from the US Geological Survey regarding CO2 and volcanoes

  • Probably a myth! Most people just listen to the media and believe anything!

  • @miked3038: And others watch YouTube videos and believe them ;)

  • Polls are relevant to the issues of science? If popularity equals evidence, then we should all eat shit. How could trillions of flies be wrong?

  • I felt the need to deconstruct that woman's bullshit, but NsayShabull's comment does it nicely - repugnant disinformation.

  • Fucking slut u should have stayed in Kenya ..... What does cows have 2 do with Climate Change u simpleton ..

  • that woman is so funny!!!!!!!!

  • Lol @ 'deny' climate change. Typically we call such a thing 'disagreement'. An appropriate title would be 'bloom disagrees with the global warming theory' rather than 'denies climate change'. Science requires a highly fluid exchange of ideas, it is not consistent with the political devices of forcing minds in one direction or another with slurs and general attacks on persons for their ideas. Fcking politician scum need to piss off.

  • what a load of tosh you mad bitch. who the hell voted in this wagon. cows are becoming a rare comodity beccause of aids, shame on you who voted in this gas bag.

  • A much more logical explanation would have been to suggest that the ever growing birth rate in Kenya lead to more cows being eaten?

  • I might have said that Linda McAvan has lost her mind but the more I hear from her, the more I think that she's never had much of one to loose.

  • spot on, its not man made at all. unless man made the universe, but i dont think we did.

  • @ProsperityGlobal i know you made your comment a while back but i felt the urge to reply. The BNP and UKIP are not teaming up, any notion that just because these 2 parties views may correspond on the subject of so called man made global warming, it doesn't mean that UKIP is now forging some sort of Libertarian-Fascist alliance with BNP. Liberal Muslims believe the Burkha should not be forcefully imposed on women-UKIP believe the same thing-does that make UKIP a Liberal party? Course it doesn't.

  • Of course people are concerned about 'climate change' you fucking bitch, we're concerned about the lies that people like you so blatantly put out about 'climate change'. I'd be surprised if someone like this woman could even get through a course on social work let alone knowing anything about the unsettled and unpredictable nature of the climate.

  • Who is the idiot who speaks at the end?

  • Who is ever asked in these bulls%^t government polls? I have never participated in one and I dont know anyone whos taken part in one either. Its time this building in Brussells was burned down and the majority of the MEPs in it.

  • We have some evil mfers in this world. Look at this witch selling her people down the river. God listen to this bitch lie. Climate fraud. Now it's been proven a hoax. Her kids are saying, "Damn, my mom is an idiot." She's either dumb as a stick or greedy. That's the way the Rothschilds love their puppets. huh? When it all boils down they are sorry as puppets that ruin the world for a dollar for themSELVES.

  • Cows. What the hell?

  • this is like the blind leading the blindddddd???? everyone knows its not real, and we have

    thanks to Blair and Brown they were the ones pulling the wool over the electorates eyes

    i cant beleive all of what i've been hearing to be honest

  • Less cows in Kenya because of climate change? She could have stayed and filled one of the vacancies.

  • So UKIP and the BNP teaming up.

  • opinion poll shows how well people have been systematically foooled - thanks to al gore and his nobel peace prize and his oscar and his grammy award. how is marriage and cows in kenya related to climate change too much cows farting letting off carbn in the atmosphere ?

  • global warming is a mirley hysteria the world has been geting hoter and colder since the dorn of time the biggest cause of Co2 is breathing if it werent for the election gordon brown would be trying to figure out how to tax that next

  • that woman is a fukin dipshit

  • All those polls show is that 80% of the public have been duped by the propoganda! Would they be the same with a fair and unbiased media..... I very much doubt it!

  • Attacking Bloom just because he's shares similar views on climate change is disgusting. I am a moderate Conservative and don't believe in man made climate change, does that make a me a fascist. Bloom and Griffin are two totally different people, Bloom believes in decent economics for a start.

  • No the so-called evidence is being increasingly exposed as the manipulation that it really is. I'm afraid as people wake up to it, the truth is gradually coming out and this conspiracy is unravelling before our eyes.

  • That blond bitch is stupid. Typical brainless boot licker. Vote UKiP!

  • They say things and make proposal as if they actually care about the people in Kenya and are trying to help them.

    But in reality their actions will kill them outright by mass starvation when most of the crops in poor countries go into producing fuel for ethanol powered cars.

    They will then blame all this on the market and implement more market regulations. Turning the formerly free market more and more into a COMMUNIST ECONOMY!

  • This woman need to be certified as being mentally ill. So WE are now responsible for a lack of cows in Kenya???? fucking nuts! BNP for me in may

  • @wellard67 UkiP for me!

  • Saying we can not afford NOT to do anything about it won't matter to the tax payers either. Not when he believes such logic assumes the great Gods of infallible science have not figured out how to get blood from a turnip and THAT is what Scientists better get through their THICK SKULLS. They are the DUMBEST of the dummies in this scam and from here on out, EVERY time I hear the words climate change or global warming on the BBC or PBS, I get so disgusted I switch channels not skipping a beat.

  • It really doesn't MATTER WHAT the FACTS are does it? I mean if the average Joe six pack is already feeling like the Government has raped him of most of his income, the ONLY FACTS that matter to him is how he is going to feed his damn family in the coming weeks and ta hell with how many polar bears are going to die in five to ten years.

  • Linda McAvan, speaks with establishment forked tounge. The subsidy grabbing greens will suck the EU dry, Spain is just the first to fall.

  • And the UN stand directly behind the current staus quo !

  • the same fkrs have been robbin us for centuries novv.....LETS GET EM!!!!!! revolutions comin...?

  • My head is spinning! It used to be called Global Warming. Did she say there's not enough cows because of climate change? Omigosh Al Gore said sharks were killing people in Florida because of climate change! Are these jokers serious?

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  • there was a young boy in Kenya who stopped climate change. he affected the hearts of billions of people. delegates the world over swiftly volunteered to lend a hand in the taking of collections for the young, starving boy.. trillions of dollars were raised, but the boy's living conditions went unchanged. the money was spent instead, to fuel a larger government with more control over the world and restrict manufacturing. little did the people know... that it wasn't about money. but control.

  • Sorry Coltrane I misspelled your name.

  • aaaah....you misspelled globaliZation too....sorry...couldnt resist.....

  • @Coltrain. Your right, but the problem is that today the corporates are more powerfull than the goverments. Their both pissing in the same pot using each others privilidges and becoming increasingly powerfull. Globalisation which is about control is only one step away from Socialism.

  • Unfortunately if you want a mixed economy you have to realize that what we are seeing now will always be the natural conclusion. The State must be separated from economics then corporations and lobby groups cannot hold individuals to ransom! The more of your money they control the more they control your life!

  • god, that lady is an IDIOT! People think "politicians know best"...NO THEY DONT! She's either paid for, very naieve or most likely a bit daft!

  • FOR GOD'S SAKE! It is NOT a left v right issue. Politics now is basically:

    Pro Free Market Corporate Globalisation

    or

    Not!

    The wars, immigration etc...all tie into this.

  • Global warming is not only a total scam , but now annoying hearing about it !

  • So UMMMM How is Kenya's cows tied into Global warming again? She gave an example of a country suffering from econmomy collapse and she is tying it into Global warming?!!!

  • It's interesting how the woman MEP In this video quotes from survey figures the number of people who think climate change is an issue. This misses the point of the science not being proven, and it being based on fraud. Of course you are going to have people "believing" if they are continually bombarded from a left-wing media and made to worry sick about their, and their children's future. This is all about controlling the people.

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  • Exactly!! She speaks as if the media has given an honest representation of climate changes with both arguments presented.

    These things are so important to notice. To Joe public the figures will go in their head and thats it they won't think where they came from or what its based on.

  • he sights fact...she sights opinion...opinion givin to the sheep by thier sheeperds...the corp ovvned media.....its revolution or the second coming....?

  • global warming? look outside dear!

  • In Roman times they grew citrus fruits in northern England. Was that due to hot blooded Italians invading our country ? What a sham the whole thing is. Its all about globalisation and control of commodities by the world wide establishments.

  • He's (Griffin) right on everything he say's here, but he's still an establishment schill.

    Bloom is spot on and McAven is just an idiot.

  • Now let's ask a question.. Why 80% of Britain's (for example) population believe in man-made global warming nonsense? Well, probably because they cannot even tell the difference between global warming and climate change.. And now that is a BIG problem! We should try to make education the priority but not some bogus man-made global warming..

  • I'm not a fan of Nick Griffin.

    But i totally agree with him about this rubbish.

    Every politician defending the theory (and that is what it still is, it is far from proven) pulls out the card of "we have scientific and public agreement on our side."

    Not only is this statement false (most scientists disagree: take a look at, for example, the Oregon petition), but I know of nothing in science that is based on CONSENSUS and not FACT.

    And how was the poorly developed point about cows relevant?

  • How are cows dying in Kenya due to Climate Change? This woman didn't give any evidence or explanation for this. (Another little jolly on the tax-payer, I guess).

    None of it proves or shows that any change to the climate is man-made. Or that what we are experiencing is unusual.

    Weather is by its very nature unpredictable and changeable.

    Opinion polls here are useless, if the people being questioned do not have any relevant information, just the force-fed propaganda.

  • We do care about climate change... BUT IT IS NOT FUCKING MAN MADE!!!

  • @kernowman13 EU is a joke. We do not need it unless Mr. Farage is a leader!!!

  • @kernowman13 no, just with an at least 90% chance.

  • @kernowman13 This moose says that UKIP have things in common with the BNP.

    Okay we and the BNP both want to leave the EU but it stops there.

    UKIP are not a racist party. We have members, candidates and friends from many nations and back grounds.

  • @kernowman13 HAHAHAHAH R U FUCKING MAD???

  • @kernowman13

    Yeah, fck all those double faced questions.

  • @kernowman13 Any proof of that?

  • @elitelawlie If you look at the ice core data it shows that CO2 and temperature are linked. But the link is that the temperature rises AND THEN, after about a few hundred years the CO2 rises. CO2 follows the temperature. This is due to the fact that the main source of CO2 is the sea which literally takes centuries to warm up. When it warms up, it releases more CO2

    BTW did you know that volcanoes emit more CO2 than all manmade CO2 emitters per year combined? Let alone plants!

  • @miggyback a very intelligent and accurate post! EVERYTHING you said is true! They love to take things out of context and make imaginary mountains out of non-existent mole-hills! THE FACT IS, THAT MAN HAS VERY LITTLE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT even with the 100year old tech in our vehicles that make 7 tons/year pollution [search BURKE ENGINE]

    They are spraying stuff in the sky in a desparate attempt to cause a plague!

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  • blah blah blah, that woman spouted off all kinds of repugnant disinformation. Polls are only accurate if the poll takers are not biased. Global Warming changed it's title to Climate Change because we all can see that the Earth is not warming, polar bears are not drouning, and CO2 is not a toxic gas! This is all a politiacal scam!!!

  • @NsayShabull Yep I noticed the sly shift from warming to change, so supposedly when we start freezing they can say "yes we knew it would change" like Iraq from terror to WMDs and back to terror again..

  • @NsayShabull CO2 is not toxic? Dam, no wonder people dont understand global warming if they dont understand basic chemistry.

  • @HaloGears360innit --- nope, CO2 is not toxic. Arguing over the amount that can be fatal to a human is different than arguing that it is a toxic gas. If it were toxic, any amount would be harmful. I can't tell by your reply if you are insulting me or agreeing with me. If it's an insult please, stick to your world of make believe gaming - leave real world controversy to we who live here. Are you for banning dihydrogen-monoxide as well?

  • @NsayShabull Yeah ok, agree CO2 is not toxic. But your statement "If it were toxic, any amount would be harmful" is wrong. Ever heard of PEL or MAK? We all can see that the earth is not warming. The earth is 4.5 billion years old and you expect to see a drastic change in what, 20 years because of CO2? Just because there are no results doesnt mean CO2 doesnt affects global warming. Water vapor affects global warming more than CO2. So yeah, lets ban dihydrogenmonoxide.

  • @HaloGears360innit Wrong there. The concentration of water vapour vapour in the atmosphere is determined by temperature and so acts as a feedback rather that a prime driver of climate change

  • @Richard482 What, a feedback? Nah, you are making things up. What molecule isn't determined by temperature?

  • @HaloGears360innit Sorry but its true. Look it up if you don't believe me

  • @NsayShabull: The toxicity of a substance also depends on the dosis. Different substances have different levels of toxicity. And most substances (e.g. certain vitamins or even ordinary water) only get toxic if their dosis passes a certain limit.

  • @NsayShabull no no, see part of the world burning us all to death is it freezing us all to death. Your just a skeptic lol.

  • @QCprepper ---what makes me a skeptic? The fact that i don't believe everything told me by "official on the subject"? Do you believe everything you are told? Do you follow blindly or do you research and find the facts? I am not a lemming - I wont follow some idiot off a cliff especially if they promise the fall won't kill us. I realize that doesn't make sense to you... The coming Carbon Tax will do just that to our slowly dying economic state. Look at the work of Piers Corbyn - become a skeptic

  • @NsayShabull why is it people dont get sarcasm on youtube?

    I was using satire to remind us that the manner of our demise has changed repeatedly in order to better suite the "data" the state invents.

    I do feel we need to make some changes to the way we treat the environment, but man made global warming is an absolute scam.

  • @QCprepper who has time for sarcasm with so many uneducated people out there?? I welcome your support. Rather than being sarcastic, let's convince people with facts. Just as you did in your response to my confusion of what you were saying. I've spent time joking around and look at what my laziness has allowed to happen in our country. Come on! Let's get moving and spread the truth!! God be with us and us with God.

  • that women is a greedy cunt

  • Do we need to move away from fossil fuels which pollute and line the pockets of terrorists?Yes! Do we need to buy 'carbon credits' with our taxes and line the pockets of Al Gore, Mr Rockerfeller et al?No!

    Will the world end if we dont? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • You are angry even as you realized that people cannot be deceived by the stupid idea of global warming as the tool of globalists agenda, but what about the other alternative. watch?v=JypyASU8Aik

  • In my country Norway (not EU-member) 25% do not think climate change is man-made at all (only 35% think it is man-made), while merely 10% in all related Scandinavian countries Denmark, Finland and Sweden (EU-members) do not think climate change is man-made. Coincidence? I think not.

  • If she wants to mention opinion polls how about the Brits that want to leave europe !!!!

    That is a real POLL!!!

    Northern Kenya ...???? how about sorting out the UK . .... what a shower of shixxxx

  • Simple solution, let all the idiots that believe the Global Warming Scam, PAY ALL THE TAXES, from their own pockets, because I will not buy into this scam any longer!!!!!

  • Kenya would be in a far better state today if the globalist scum this brainless whore represents hadnt raped it of its resources!!

  • Yep, and their next step is to meddle futher in such countries affairs.

    The establishment supposedly promote equality and less pollution yet continue to exploit low wage/mass pollution nations for every penny they can get and at the expense of our long term economic prospects.

    What a bunch of hypocrites the government are.

  • That gnarly scag needs to be put down with a high power tranquilizer.

  • Better still, she needs to lose her seat to a BNP member.

  • This woman is an arrogant sanctimonious cretin

  • Lol - I feel sorry for the poor souls who voted her in. They must be as thick as her!

    Nobody in their right mind thinks that man has an effect on the climate.

    Climate change is natural and the data proves global cooling not global warming.

    The Global governance that she is shouting for will kill and has killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined.

    The only problem; she is to thick to even realise the consequnces of her poor founded views.

  • Climate change causes cow shortage????!!?? How does that work exactly?

    Cows release "greenhouse gases" so an attempt to reduce it surely means less cows will be allowed.

  • My sentiments exactly.

    Yes cows are veritable methane machines .

    What the "elite" fail to see is that cattle and their ancestors started farting out greenhouse gas on a massive scale since humankind was a twinkle in its daddy's eye and the world didn't end then. It probably won't end any time soon unless one of these globalist loonies

    gets too trigger happy with their nukes.

    Between now and armageddon I hope they don't ban beef. I like a good steak.

  • What a stupid cow! The Global Govt agenda plans to fund the third world not to develop, so they will be worse off! Climate Change happens ... tax scams never go away!

  • Well shoot -- with that level of thinking, maybe she should just marry a cow and then all her answers will be forthcoming.

    Point is... WE DON'T BELIEVE THE BS ANYMORE... The choice is... You can be on the right side of history or be a coward. WAKE UP!

  • LOL haha rediculous arguement from the bint. Global warming = less cows in kenya lmao thats right, and penquins can't swim and the polar bears are dying.

  • yeah the title's misleading. Nobody denies climate change, that's rediculous. People deny AGW. That's anthropogenic global warming to those who don't know. Good to see that people in these posts know what it's about. It's the same in the comments section of the Washington Post etc. Very few believe the spin anymore. Even Al Gore doesn't believe his own spin, that's why he's just bought a 20 room mansion, WTF is his carbon footprint??

  • omg shes so silly! the reason why people believe in climate change is because it gets ramed down into their heads everyday on tv. and its daft relating to cows dieing to climate change

  • The silliest thing is that cows pump out

    an insane amount of so called greenhouse gases. In keeping with her own theory, the death of cows would be a positive boon for the environment. I bet she didn't think of that.

  • Nick and Godfrey are right. This is nothing more than an excuse to establish world government.

  • WTF did cows as currency have to do with the climate for god sake.

  • shes obviously seen too many polar bear tales. Maybe she should chew before she she swallows instead of vomitting crap back on everyone else

  • they're not denying anything they're telling the truth!

  • If you tell a lie and a thousand people believe you, it is still a lie. If you tell the truth and nobody believes you it is still the truth. Paraphrased from Ghandhi. True then and still true today. Politicians in the mainstream parties have nothing more interesting to say or offer their constituents. Never thought I'd see the day when UKIP and the BNP representatives were closer to reality.....! Check out Lord Monckton too.... And wake the f**k up!

  • What a stupid lesbian.

  • i dont agree with everything griffin says but he is right about climate change.

  • Its interesting UKIP and the BNP both deny climate change, I'm increasingly of the view UKIP is basically "The BNP for some aging middle classes"

  • neo(etc) takes the biscuit': "... griffin said what he said because its the truth, ... "

    Griffin is an opportunist. Already tired of being M.E.P. for the North West he is now set on becoming M.P. for Barking. Political opportunism (and numptyism) knows no bounds, it seems.

    As for his climate change interventions - he just quotes whatever he thinks will win him some headlines.

    The British people have already awakened to the new Numpty On the Block.

    Griffin's the idiot.

  • Wait... so this woman's argument is: "Nick Griffin said it; so you can't support that position"?

    So if Nick Griffin said she was hot... ?

    And since WHEN did Labour care about opinion polls? :P What's the British people's opinion on the EU?

  • It's amazing how all of these apparently objective broadcasters like the BBC or SKY News haven't even reported on the unveiling of perhaps the biggest SCAM in history.

    ps Does anybody know where i can read these emails?

  • @staponsa1

    If by "scam" you're reffering to the hacked emails then this event has been widely reported and discussed by numerous pundits.

    Whether or not it is a "scam" or even the "biggest scam in history" remains to be seen.

    From my interpretation of this event the revelations of the hacked emails seem to make no difference whatsoever: the independent review has yet to be completed and the science of this particular research body will have to be examined independently of the emails.

  • @missjanegrrrl

    Tell me who has widely reported on this story objectively?

    And please don't mention Jeremy Paxman, that "report" was about as objective as one of Glenn Beck's on FOX .

    The only time I've heard of the story mentioned on SKY, BBC, CNN is in reference to whether or not it will affect any possible deal on climate change in Copenhaguen.

    Hardly widely reported. And I watch a lot of news as the news channels are the only channels I receive via sky digital.

  • @staponsa1

    Haven't seen much tv news but non-childish newspapers and radio4 (u.k.) featured extensive coverage.

    If you are expecting news organisations to report a "scam", a "crime" (other than the hacking of emails) or even "the biggest scam in history" then you will be disappointed.

    No one will know if your interpretation is correct until the independent review is done.

    If the email content was reported as a scam, crime etc. this would merely be unsubstantiated opinion, i.e. not objective.

  • @missjanegrrrl

    Well it's very interesting that the tv news haven't reported on this at all, whether people think it's a scam or not it's still a big story.

    And I was never advocating for the news channels to say AGW is scam just to report it objectively and let people come to their own conclusions.

  • Very odd how people with no apparent connection to big business/corporations are prepared to campaign to give big business/corporations an opportunity to destroy the earth as we know it.

  • What has been released on the news as emails is a very tiny portion of the damning conversations that they had and others that they deleted along with data.

    SCAM! written all over it.

    Phill Jones has stepped down rather than dtry to defend his crimes.

  • @buddcinder Your talk about 'crimes' is premature: Professor Jones said: "What is most important is that CRU continues its world leading research with as little interruption and diversion as possible. After a good deal of consideration I have decided that the best way to achieve this is by stepping aside from the Director's role during the course of the independent review and am grateful to the University for agreeing to this. The Review process will have my full support."

  • @missjanegrrrl

    I don't think it is. were you expecting a criminal to lay down and confess.

    The emails speak of cooking data.

    That is criminal if you are using that data for funding and world laws.

  • @buddcinder

    The independent review will reveal what/if any "crimes" have been committed, this hasn't yet been completed.

    Will you accept the outcome of the review if it concludes that no "crimes" have been committed? Or will you conclude that the review is also a conspiracy?

  • @missjanegrrrl

    I guess it depends on who does the investigation and how open they are with their findings.

    Do you believe OJ Simpson was innocent?

    Conspiracy or corruption call it what you think best fits the evidence in plain site within those emails.

  • @buddcinder

    Don't see the relevance of O J Simpson.

    It does seem that you have already reached a verdict as indicated by your use of the word "crimes" and your premature description of Jones as a "criminal".

  • Quote"I can make a London lunch on either 19 or 20, but with a strong preference for 20th. Trevor could also make both days if necessary. By then we will have got further with the Tyndall contract so it would useful to talk with Esso (do you have a copy of the Exxonmobil booklet referred to?).

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  • Quoting opinopn polls, when all people have heared is one side of the argument proves nothing!

  • I'm glad that unpopular watchmen like Griffin are a voice amongst the noise!

  • According to this woman, the EU is basing its policy on opinion polls.  Lots of people think climate change is a big problem, so let's do something about it. If that's how they work, let's have an opinion poll (let's call it a referendum) on whether or not the UK should remain in the EU. No? I thought not. They only like opinion polls that agree with what they are going to do anyway. Anything that goes against them they simply ignore. Tyrannical bureaucracy.

  • @Pwecko Do you think there is a connection between the body of scientific opinion (re climate change) and the public opinion which it informs?

    As I understand it, she references public opinion as an illustration of the acceptance, by the public, of scientific opinion.

    As an elected politician she has a duty to consider and respond to both.