Bad Religion - Pretenders

[lazersify]

@DavetheFuckingBrave go to BR's website.... into the unknown .... LOOK FOR IT

[supp0rter9]

26.318 Views and now dislike. AWESOME!

[chillyrooster]

64 likes and no dislikes that is amazing concidering this is one of their most poppiest tracks....which proves its good

[wwarden12]

A BAD RELIGION SONG I HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE!!! This makes my morning.

[ElonoreKeselman524]

Rip the audio from this track at searchripgrab doht cohm.

[MrCutiludissi]

But.. what does he say at the beginning and at the end? "ehi ehi ee-aa--ee"?

[GeneratorNJ]

If they released a cd of all their B-sides, I would be on that.

[Filmorethepreist]

So they recycled a few chords. You try writing fifteen albums and coming up with new chords. Besides, thats the style of the Cali. punk they were born into.

[bedtimefordemocracy]

@Filmorethepreist Exactly. Songs evolve, it's not like they promote this song and the lie as different current songs. This song just became what is now the lie. It can take years to make a song into its final state, happens to me constantly

[kirkangel]

The word 'punkiest' amuses me.

[triptolawl]

@kirkangel I hear that.

[revjoesaves]

The break down of this song is amazing--"you're standing there..."

[peebux]

I really like this song. I'm one who likes

both BR's poppy and punkier stuff. Give it up for The New America.

[ash0ppingcart]

Wth! They used this song as a reference for "The Lie" off of Process of Belief! That's kinda cool

[GeneratorNJ]

"why do you lie, why do you lie? would you betray your soul?"

[MRMUG24]

Normally Davethebrave makes some relatively dumb comments, but I agree with what he is trying to say. New America was a "poppy" album leaving something to be desired on a few tracks. People who are die hard "Suffer" or "No Control" fans probably cringe at some tunes. I am with Dave on this one. Half that album rocks hard, the other half not so much. And by the way, the song NEW AMERICA, is really terrible. All BR fans know that, even if they like the song.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

i personally think:

what is dumber than "dumb comments" about the OPINION (!!!) on the quality of some tracks or one album

is to rate down comments Oo' just because you dont share the opinion.

as i mentioned, i love half the songs on new america, dont sell me short is among my all time favorites.

but i think half the "way back die hard" hardcore bad religion fans would agree that songs like believe it and new america are crap.

but even if they didn't - its still just an opinion.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

show me one dumb comment

[redwingduck]

What ever kind of music it is. Bad Religion are trying to express important messages that will pertain to the future. It is up to you as an individual if you take good advice or not. Only you can think for yourself I only hope it is not for shitty purposes.

[chillyrooster]

this song like

[germs123]

soudns exaclt ylike another song ini pals!

the new bad religion albums sucks dudes!

hate it!

8085 all ages

[showtaker]

different type song but as greath as those from other albums

[silver11338]

lol

intro is just like their oher song "The Lie"

[AnarchyBegins]

It was just different from their other albums that's all. It did a great job of commenting on 'the new america' which rose around the time.

I don't feel it was without soul at all, it has a lot of passion. It just isn't as awesome as STF ^^

[BringBRToTheUK]

I liked the New America aswell I really don't see what everyones problem is with it...

Help me bring Bad Religion to the UK all you fans out there!

[AnarchyBegins]

Yeah man I loved The New America!

I love all their music, I even thought Into The Unknown was awesome.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

pop songs like believe it and new america are what everyone's problem is

[BringBRToTheUK]

What a closed minded life you must live, they've churned out album after album filled with politically challenging, mind engaging, angry, yet beautifully metaphoric and poetic content.

We all know they can write songs that are rich in melody and catchy and with a few songs they've shown this more prominently. Even if that's not your thing it takes nothing from their other more 'punk' songs. If something as insignificant as that puts you off you're NOT a BR fan.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

"Even if that's not your thing it takes nothing from their other more 'punk' songs." wtf? of course it doesnt, i never even mentioned their more punk songs

"If something as insignificant as that puts you off you're NOT a BR fan. "

insignificant?

Well, to ME, a punk rock and Bad Religion fan, its defnitly not insifnificant if my favorite punk rock band ever puts out a record with more pop songs than they ever did and a record of which i dislike half of the songs.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

btw: i like the second half of the album,

the 3 songs there will be a way, the hopeless housewife and dont sell me short are definitly among my favorite BR songs EVER.

I just stated that i think new america and believe it are pop songs. for me there are just some of the worst BR songs on the new america - that has nothing to do with close minded and with their other albums of fantastic content.

[BringBRToTheUK]

Sorry man, I just get pissed off when people are so fickle, down talknig such a great bands because a few of the songs don't appeal to them.

Punk rock is a cool genre but to totally write something off because it crosses the strict restrictions set by punk rock is just closed minded and fickle.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

its just that its totally NOT "down talking.." when i call a few (very bad) songs of them "pop songs"

for me the mentioned songs simply ARE pop songs and are the reason why the new america record isnt as popular as most of the other records.

[BringBRToTheUK]

Well you gave me the impression that you were implying the songs weren't very good simply because they're pop.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

yeah okay, but i think the "poppiness" (:-D) of the songs on new america are a problem, because theres too much of it and i really cant stand those songs.

Thats just my personal opinion.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

ah alright. now that was a missunderstanding then.

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

btw: its not MY fault that new america is among the less popular albums generally by bad religion

[eyegore666]

@BringBRToTheUK da fuck ya talkin bout?

[BringBRToTheUK]

@eyegore666 What exactly are you referring to when you ask me 'da fuck ya talkin bout'?

[KerreyTheBitterSugar]

brilliant song, brilliant band!!! <3

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

"I give from you

You take from me

We live in perfect harmony!"

Holy crap this line kicks ass!

great song!

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

holy shit i wrote it wrong ..

[DaveTheFuckingBrave]

okay this is bullshit.

im also no big fan of the new america.

but you cant tell me that "there will be a way" and "the hopeless housewife" and especially "dont sell me short" dont have soul!

man, not many BR-songs have MORE soul than those 3 !

[lostinrachelseyes]

it's kinda funny casue a lot of their b-sides are better than what they actually put on the album. Most likely they didn't have much choice or say in the mixing and production of their records when they were at atlantic. Still glad they went cause they would have gotten too big had they stayed with epitaph and that could have possibly destroyed them as a whole.

[impossiblelateflip]

not their punkiest? don´t agree

[JohnZackarias]

I know what you mean, but I disagree.

I think The New America is a great album with many awesome songs. Songs with soul.

Anyway, this song is kinda cool. Catchy chorus.

[JerseySkate]

This song is like ridiculously awesome!

[frisiandude123]

so much better than "the lie"

[idj1491]

this is a really good song, but what the hell is being said in the intro?

[Zeve94]

I was trying to figure that out too, lol

[vxicepickxv]

I give to you, you take from me

We live in perfect harmony

But I know you can't give me what I need

With subtle care and rosy hues

We duke it out, we change our views

We hold so dear our unanimity

Oh...

[tyrellcorp2007]

wow the beginning is the lie from the process of belief

[Hupsibasse]

You could say that The Lie is the re-birth of Pretenders.

[AlvaroPunk]

at the beggining and at the end sounds like The Lie :P

[Hupsibasse]

Yeah, it's the exact same chords hehe

[Newmapsofsocal]

Yeah. lol

Throughout most of this song...

But they can still make it great!

Viva La BAD RELIGION!!!

[TwoSquirtsOfPiss]

I just adore BR's poppy & folkish B sides.

[tdthorsen]

Must have wrote this during his divorce

[sleepytercel]

Yeah, this is from "New America" which would be during that time.

[Gioxtream]

Bad religion has some really amazing b-sides and rare tracks.This one is off of an new america promo disc,Some other great b-sides include song's called MEDIOCRITY,NEWS FROM THE FRONT, SHATTERED FAITH,MARKOVIAN PROCESS,LEADERS AND FOLLOWERS,THE FAST LIFE,AND THEY HAVE A FEW MORE THEN THESE ONE'S

[markiss430]

very good song... he amazes me everytime i hear sumtin new ...such a good songwriter

[adrisouth]

i love this song

[evilegor]

Just because it isnt their punkest song doesnt mean it isnt good...

Which album was this from??

Thanks for posting a BR song I had not heard, keep them coming

[michaelfromutopia]

it was a b-side on the new america single if i'm not mistaken

[sleepytercel]

Lol, and it's probably one of the more punk driven songs from New America. I still have love for NA though. I like how it is more personal, but not completely as direct as American Lesion.

[BobOfTheSickness]

where the hell did this come from?