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  • Thought influences matter!!

    Maybe not your thoughts,

    Because your thoughts don't maTTer!!

    By the way love this video!

    Its nice to witness people nowadays actually thinking

  • yes you are absolutely correct that, a person can choose to accept the principle that thought can control matter.

    The problem is they are flat out wrong.

    If truth is important, then one can only recommend science.

    If truth is not important, then good luck

  • oh...almost forgot to correct you in the fact that "effect magic" has it's roots in materialism...not dualism :) so not all magic is rooted in dualism :)

  • so if I'm understanding this right the materialism/dualism argument is basically what came first the chicken or the egg? you can tell she is trying not too be biased but she is sooo biased lol...shes lumping communism in with atheist and she is like well is a materialist sees a ghost he will make excuses but a dualist will say "its a ghost" same applies for if the shutters flap a dualist would say "it's a ghost" and a materialist would say "it's the wind" lol I can't seem to choose a side lol

  • materialism can be quiet dangerous...

  • Yo yo yo!, don't forget non-dualism! under which mind and body are one without reducing either to the other.

  • I find you to be a brilliant woman thank you.

  • Hello my friends ,...

    look this video on you tube

    watch?v=S1DAm80tP_s

    ... think about it .. is this a dream or reality.

    bcstony

  • Wer alles wissen will, wird feststellen, das "es" kein Leben geben wird ..!

    Den welcher Weg ist der richtige ..??? .. für mich, der einzelne Mensch..!

    Wer seine Rechung macht ..!.. ohne das "eigene Leben" zu berücksichtigen,

    wird feststellen, das"es" kein Leben ist ..!

    bcstony

  • Hello my friends,

    please look this Video, on You-Tube.

    watch?v=SGD2q2vewzQ

    Have a good time, or better, Gods times..!.. what ever ..!

    bcstony

  • 1-4

    Sollten diese Fragen, alle beantwortet werden ..!.. wird uns die Natur, mit neuen Fragen, prüfen ..!.. gnadenlos ..!

    Wer die Antwort sucht ..!.. wird die Ewigkeit und die Unendlichkeit, kennen lernen ..!

    Wie schon gesagt ..!!!.. zwei Parallen, scheiden sich in der Unendlichkeit ..!.. und Zeit spielt keine Rolle, den wer stellt das Maß, der Einheiten ..!

    Viel Spaß beim Gott suchen ..!.. den "es" war nie weg ..!.. hat nur ne Runde geschafen..!

    bcstony

  • 1-3 Nett erklärt, aber voll daneben ..!.. da IHR schlicht weg, den Moment, der Entscheidung, vergessen habt ..! z.B. Warum rebelliert der Mensch, gegen "Unrecht" ..? Warum wird, in einem Spiegel, aus 1 +1 = 4 Warum stellt der Mensch Fragen ..? Wer gibt hier die Antworten ..!.. was ist Logic ..? Ein Buch ist ein Buch und ein Erdbeben ist ein Erdbeben ..! Und doch, bestehen beide die Ewigkeit ..! bcstony
  • 1-2

    Hab mir den Film "TRON1" und TRON2" angesehen, aber von Murphys Law, ist das alles, weit entfernt. So lange die Menschen glauben, das "Relaischips", eine Antwort auf das Leben geben könnte, hab IHR nichts verstanden.

    Entscheident ist der Moment ..!.. wie lange ist ein Moment..?

    Eine Sekunde ..!.. der Geistest-Blitz ..? .. oder der Krieg ..!.. indem der Moment zur Ewigkeit wird ..!

    bcstony

  • 1-1

    Feuer, Erde, Wasser, Wind, Licht und Dunkelheit, erschufen das Leben und den Tod. Zu behaupten "es" gäbe nur fünf Elemente, ist schlicht weg, naive. Die Götter haben, "es" sich nicht leicht gemacht, uns Menschen, zu beeindrucken. Doch eine Regel gilt im ganzen Universum, "es" gilt immer die Physik des Planeten, auf dem man sich befindet.

    bcstony

  • Magic is something that happens we can not understand. Meaning I just clicked a button and this video played because I do not understand why it is magic.

  • Very well put.

    I like.

    A.S.Angelo

  • Thumbs up if you think she looks yummy in pantyhose >:)

  • The name's Idealism, not Dualism, baby.

  • I think that im on the meterial site but i belive in ghosts, afterlife and magic and i belive in god, but whits side am i on?

    plz send my a anser.

  • Thats wats up, gotta escape out the box, the box is a prison

  • I liked the video. Only one problem though. Buddhaism is about Non-duality, Hence the middle path. Therefore it cannot be in a category of Dualism. Consciousness and Matter are opposite reflections of each other. The deeper science peers into quantum physics they more they will see matter and energy; all things are inherently empty.

  • Awesome... Please don't let the comments of the littler men bother you...  You are doing a great job and I have found a lot of information here on this site useful! Thanks!

  • THANKS I GOT SOME OF THE ANSWERS

  • I love the way You move Your lips, You`r butifol !!

  • Anyone who's drank an alcoholic beverage knows that matter can influence thought. Proving thought influences matter is a bit more difficult to do.

  • I like the way she writes her G's *circle line down circle*. very nice!

  • aw shit rick rolled again

  • that was a nice simple explanation

  • I wonder how many years it takes until this girl is embarrassed at looking at herself (in these videos)..I smell newly finished college-girl on the run...

  • @mads18 hahahaha LOL!!

  • I think you all missed the message. It is very simple, if you deny it in your reality, then it will not exsist. The ones who put thought above material are more receptive to things the materialist would not understand. The mind becomes limited & so does their reality. No matter how intelligent they may be. Like all the complete morons that dont believe psionics exsist & that is ALOT of morons. So she is saying dummy up you materialists. VIBRATE

  • What a babe!

  • "Oh, I saw a ghost..." I thought that was funny

  • I'd do her

  • Interesting video. Though the biggest issue I had was the speaker addressed dualism as being under the "thought" category. The definition for "dualism" states "the view that reality consists ultimately of two fundamentally different entities". Thus the mind-body problem (or in this video's case the matter-thought problem). Also, for the thought category, they believe there is only thought. It's either one or the other, not both (as the speaker implied).

  • Incorrect. If ghosts were real as established in fact, the materialist would not discount them out of hand as a trick. You are giving them the attribute of existence, thus the materialist would seek the means with which the experience makes sense. Science and reason would seek out how these things exists. In the view of the materialist, everything is physical, even things such as these.

  • You are very personable-i really like watching your programs!!!Keep up the good work!

  • Has anyone ever said that you look like Melissa Joan Hart?

  • Interesting. I am skeptic, but do not rule out anything. If I did think I saw a ghost I would be skeptical, but would be willing to investigate the matter further.

    There is old saying be open minded, but not so open minded your brain falls out.

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  • I can't believe how many retards are commenting here on this video lol..

    I know why cus ur manipulated sheeps who still believes in rules made by people but not studying the rules made by the universe SCIENCE...

    Magic works you can make a statisticaly probability of tracked thoughtprocesses and interpretate this correctly.

    LOOK AT WEBBOT PREDICTS THE FUTURE!!! ALL BASED ON LINGUISTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I understand this is a basic metaphysical model of these two schools of thought, but perhaps there should be a blend? Matter or thought is not above either, but offer things the other cannot? Truly, I believe thought can affect matter. However, can't thought affect thought? Can't matter affect matter (surely us dualists recognize this)? Perhaps matter can affect thought, such as an experience in a physical realm like pain? Don't our ideas and thoughts change due to these physical experiences?

  • ha. nice, i wish i could only explain this to my family!

  • I think that people have a natural aptitude for seperating criteria and how they percieve things. I believe in both materialism and dualism, which may seem quite insane, and would take too long to explain. : / I'm inventing my own theory of both materialism and dualism, and I dub it Unitism. I think dualism is cool, because I just put my thought onto paper. (sarcasm) Materialism is also cool, because without it, I wouldn't be aware that I am made up of something called atoms. lol Peace out!!

  • you look good in black hose

  • love college gril

  • Oops, far too simplistic to put communism under materialism when it requires a good deal of faith on the part of those living under it. Capitalism cannot be sorted so simply either, as there are just as many faithful who workship at the altar of capitalism.

  • can you believe in both matter and thought?

  • Have you heard of Roger Morneau?

  • class pure class i love metaphysics we are all one peace to u all

  • Very well explained...u will be a great teacher for the New Age. God exists, everywhere and even within us-people are so afraid of this so they try to reason God out of the equation. We are all one-that's a fact:)

  • i agree with u my friend exactly right peace be wiv u brother

  • Now...thoughts are energy....and matter is energy...

  • i liked your video but why don't you include some of the science behind the two different concepts? i'm an athiest, yet not a materialist, and i am aware that ideas and observation can and do affect matter based on my understanding of quantum physics. yet i don't consider myself a dualist because i find matter and consciousness to be co-dependant, making them essentially equally important. mentioning quantum physics would be helpful, especially as you are referring to each side as a belief.

  • Sorry, Blondie. Communism is just one shade darker of "red" (collectivism) - which is a consequence of dualism, not materialism - it logically follows from Christianity or any self-sacrifice praising religions.

    CAPITALISM is the only political system which logically follows from "materialism" - or precisely: the primacy of existence (not the primacy of consciousness). And, rational metaphysics does not scientifically preclude the possibility of consciousness affecting matter in some way.

  • Damn you are all wrapped up semantics to the point your thinking is muddled all to hell.

    Start by reading the Wikipedia article on "dialectal materialism" and then figure out how that philosophy relates to communism.

  • @psychetruth Nice way of saying that.

  • The first 4 videos of this series all got full 5 stars from me, but as a practicing magician AND a materialist/atheist, I have to give video only 1 star. Sorry..

  • well at least your using your powers for good...information rules...and so do women

    i never saw a rock cry.. or make space ships or piramids...and much less make an analitic suggestion of its own existence...will the rock one day realise its a rock?? by the way you girls r very cute..wish my teachers looked half as good in school

  • I think i stand in a middle ground, since i do believe in god, but i think way too logically.

  • So cute and just as smart. Wonderful legs in nylons. All American Girl. Well represents this site. HIgh heels too on occasion?

  • like your lips and your pantyhose

  • you're yummy :)

  • not entirely true, being a materialist in your definition you would say i need material or matter for proof, however energy is a form of matter or vice versa, and it has been proven that energy can not be destroyed only changed from form to form, therefore spirits are plausible to me because it can be explained as an echo or change in the basic matter if you will

  • Good video!

  • What a terrific break down!!

    You might have some Buddhists quibbling over their placement in the dual, non materialist side though. They'd probably put themselves right exactly on the line. But it is merely a quibble.

    Great series! Thanks!

  • When the candle is extinguished, where does the flame go?

  • A flame is just the combustion reaction of billions of (most often carbon, if burning wood) atoms. Because of the intense amount of energy these atoms have, this energy is released as heat and light when new chemical bonds are made. For example, providing the carbon atoms in a piece of wood with sufficient energy whilst in contact with the oxygen in air will allow it to form C02 (carbon dioxide). New electron bonds are formed between the carbon and oxygen atoms, which releases energy.

  • but to answer your question, when a flame is extinguished, it's because an external action is depriving the atoms of their energy, or removing the oxygen atoms from the environment thus disabling the reaction. because a flame is just a bunch of highly energetic atoms emitting energy as heat and light, extinguishing it will simply remove the energy, which means that no heat or light can be further emitted - thus the flame disappears and the energy is dispersed elsewhere.

  • To say though,or spirit or soul or consciousness are after matter,or man invented God after univers was created ,is like to say there sadenly was a washing machine then we started to think what to do with it ,then we came up with the idea:

    lets wash our clothes with it.materialism is so smart,even a helthy minded child will laough.

    The lecturers facts are mosr acorate in dividing of the two sckols of thoughts.

  • man i wanna learn magic

  • Thoughts are matter but consciousness is not. The problem with confusing our thoughts and who we are is that we become identified with our thoughts to the point where we think we ourselves will die if our thoughts (our body) die.

  • Very nice video, but I was slightly perturbed by your saying that dualists value thought more than materialists. You said "thought was more important" several times, and I don't think it is accurate. I'm not going to rant about it but I think it is a stretch to say that peole who believe in ghosts etc value thought more than people that do not LOL

  • Good video, but I'd like to say: 1) Communism means just a society where things are held in common. You meant Marxism, as it's a type of Communist philosophy totally materialistic, but Communism per se doesn't have to be 2) Apha1Bravo1ect's comment is typical of materialists & atheists, who disbelieve Metaphysics (which they confuse with Religion) because it's not based on 'scientific' evidence. But God, thought, the universe, etc.. are infinite & can't be assessed by science 'cause it's finite

  • I originally subscribed because it was like having incredibly hot professors considering my major was psychology and the information was actually reliable and genuinely interesting but lately its just turned into, you know, this.

  • Cute.  :-)

  • The premise of this video is wrong.

    Matter vs Thought isn't the real issue. It's empirical evidence. The people who subscribe to the 'matter' side are interested in what can be proven. So if you could prove that mind reading is real, then yeah, they'd believe it.

    Just because there are 2 anthropological views on magic it doesnt mean that the debate is related to the issue of thought vs matter. The debate exists solo in the matter side, since thought subscribers aren't interested in evidence.

  • @Alpha1Bravo1Charlie1 Just now saw this (year late), but good point

  • Love the way CollegeGirl breaks it down. But I came to think about; what then with people actual measurable brain disorders/deficiencies i.e "wrong wiring", missing components et.c. that manifests lacking thought capabilities.

    What school explains that the best? Is it solely the matter of the brain that limits the thought, or is it the thought creating that particular body that hasn't been fully 'thought through', so to say, and therefore making faulty matter-brain. Kinda philosophic question :)

  • I definitely fall into the dualistic group concerning most aspects discussed in this vid, but this question is hard to find a good stand on, I think.

    Cogito ergo sum ;-)

  • Go back to watching Fred or the Amazing Atheists please. Those channel are more representative of your intelligence than mine.

    Your blocked for being an asshole.

  • mike are you the owner of the channel or is it the latina?

  • what did the person say to get blocked??

  • There are alot of freaks out there trying to turn our society into an exclucively, secular humanist one....they have no concern for the mind, the thought, the emotions of people....like this lady said, they just consider these things to be chemical reactions in the brains. There is true inherent evil to this materialistic type of thinking because therein lacks the compassion which makes us all human.

  • I agree.

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  • 1. Most philosophical dualists wouldnt be more inclined to believe in magic than materialists, only religious dualists would. 2. Stating that dualists think that thought is "the boss" is misleading, dualism states that matter is seperate from mind, not that one is greater than another. 3. Pairing Buddhism with other religions is incorrect, its philosophy is both atheistic and materialistic. Though I am niether, I think philosophically both dualists and Buddhists would be offended by this video

  • No Buddhism is not materialistic! There are a great many Buddhist scriptures where Buddha discusses his past lives or past incarnations.

    There is only one small Cambodian branch of Buddhism that is materialistic. Most Buddhists believe in an eternal consciousness which transcends material life.

    And for the record Buddha never said there was no God or a God. He simply said it wasn't necessary to answer that question for your own personal salvation. Technically agnostic.

  • Most Buddhists would probably be concidered property dualists. Property dualism as a theory bares no relation to believeing in a soul or that mind is greater than matter. And for the record, when the Buddha (a metaphysical teacher) chose not to discuss God (a pretty central metaphysical issue), I think that indicates he didn't believe in one, either that or that there exists a creator who is either irrelevant or deeply flawed, but it seems unlikely he would believe in a type of god like these.

  • Okay, I gave you some grief over the Magic videos, as I thought you sort of cherry-picked your definition. But, I like this video, for the most part. It's far more insightful. So, I'll be interested in seeing what you have next. - 5 stars

  • What I think so many have against magic/magick is mainly due to Hollywood BS (not Barbara Streisand). Though I love Harry Potter movies, I do not believe in that type of magic. What I do believe is that the magic comes from us and it enhances within us. Meaning we can change our reality, but from within than from without. On philosophy thought, the only reality that exist is within us.

  • very nice! you always show me something to think about +)

    whatsoever im choosing Matter ^^

    tnx

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  • yeah she's hot

  • omG, you're a cute lil thing

  • There is NO complex explanation or philosophy surrounding MAGIC - and there is absolutely NO need to go into meta-physics & matter????

    Magic is purely mis-direction - simple!!!

    Ask any professional magician whether he works in small venues or big theatres - he will tell you - the secret is MIS-DIRECTION resulting in the obvious ILLUSION!!!

    If anything - Principles of Psychology would have been more relevant???

    Sorry missy to rock your boat but THIS was a pointless exercise:)

  • professional magicians openly work in the art of perception. The "magic" she speaks of has nothing to do with this. It is as if you are comparing the WWE with olympic wrestling. They may share a common name, but have nothing to do with each other. whether magic exists or not, your arguement is fucking stupid.

    And don't call her "missy" you sexist piece of shit.

  • YOUR statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever - what the hell has wrestling got to do with it???:)LOL

    YOU dont have the slightest comprehension as to what the under-lying issue of my statement was, NEVERMIND what SHE is talking about:)

    PLUS I dont get into intellectual debates on youtube - ESPECIALLY with idiots like YOU who respond to a comment that has NOTHING to do with them & starts to resort to childish insults!

    Go back to school you uneducated, uncultured Juvenile Idiot!!!

  • Thought is the boss. I love you.

  • That was pretty good.

  • cool video. I am an atheism.

    btw, nice dress

  • I usually avoid using the word "materialist" since it is more commonly associated with its pejorative usage of meaning "one who is concerned with money and possessions." This is a distinctly different than the philosophical usage of the word meaning "one who asserts that matter is the only substance." I cant tell if your girl was able to make this distinction, or if she had the two confused as one type of materialism.

    Im also a bit baffled as to why you listed communism on your chart.

  • Oh please, religion and science are bullshit. Wake up: FinallyExposed . com

  • I disagree with the classification you have made regarding thought. Belief is the word you are looking for, not thought.

  • lively video, totally new approach for this girl....subject and kind of presentation suits her well.

  • It is safe to say?

    Materialism = Deterministic Concepts

    Dualism = Non deterministic concepts

    People tend to apply non deterministic domains, i.e. philosophy, and try to apply it to deterministic domains, material facts. e.g. the existence of God in a form outside of oneself.

  • Determinism isn't exclusive to materialism or dualism. Deterministic thought is more readily seen in naturalists, but it can also be seen in supernaturalists as well. The Kalam Cosomological Argument comes to mind, which is an argument for the existence of a creator, and it relies heavily on causal arguments.

    I also wouldnt say that philosophy is a non-deterministic domain since determinism is itself a philosophy.

  • I am referring to "deterministic" as in domain of mathematics not philosophy. You are referring the a philosophy known as determinism. They are two different concepts.

  • How are you using mathematical determinism in relation to materialism and dualism?

  • Deterministic relation to something being true or false conclusively hence materialism. Something non-deterministic means we can only guess at the results hence dualism.

    Philosophy by its nature is dualistic and non-deterministic in a mathematical sense. People tend to apply some elements of philosophy as being deterministic.

    Communist is a form of materialism. It is a system of belief that relies solely on existentialism.

  • Thanks to Collegegirl and Psychetruth for raising the level of discourse on YouTube above the typical "she's hot!" fare we normally see. There's some substance in this presentation, I appreciate that.

  • This video did a very good job at being objective. As an artist I have to believe that everything starts as a thought and then is created.

  • proof that thought can influence matter directly ... when people are extremely stressed or worried, their hair can turn white! :)

  • When a hot girl says it, it must be true. Right? Right?

  • why only 2 sides? More left/right paradigm. Choose neither. The answer is outside the box. Magic cannot exist in such restraints.

  • Good stuff - all things considered, I fall on the side of dualism.

  • "Your foundation of your belief system automatically precludes you from believing in magic". You might to throw a "may" or "could" in there. I'm an atheist not because I don't believe in the possibility of the supernatural, but I'm not going to believe it just because someone says its true. Materialists are evidence based, so show the evidence for the supernatural and I will accept it. Its not a philosophy that resists truth, but rather demands truth to support its beliefs.

  • Yea, I don't believe you. I think your just playing lip service. If you had a spiritual experience, you would come up with some naturalistic explanation to explain away your experience.

    From a dualist point of view, people experience the non-material all the time but how can you "prove" materially something which is non-material?

    Example: Scientifically prove that "ethics" exist.

  • Ethics doesn't "exist". Its a term used to define something else in a quantifiable way. Thats like saying "niceness" exists. Niceness is merely a way to describe how one person treats another, its not a concrete thing. Ethics is a philosophical term to describe morality, which is fluid and does not have a permanent "truth". Ethics means different things to different people and cultures throughout all of history.

  • Ah see, most dualist would say that ethics really exist and that they are experiential and palpable.

  • I think you may be confusing my point on this one. I'm not saying that I'm a dualist, merely that if you are saying that all the categories on the left are fully materialist and all materialists would automatically discard evidence of the supernatural that you are being overly general. Being an atheist and a materialist means that I focus on evidence first, and as of now there is no evidence of the supernatural. I won't say there CAN'T be anything that is SN though.

  • kbonez2: 'Being an atheist and a materialist means that I focus on evidence first,...'

    Ha ha you are funny person. What is 'evidence' to you? You mean scientific evidence? Well scientific evidence is nothing more than the experience, the 'perception' if you like of whatever scientific instruments or equations are used to obtain such evidence, yes?

    So what you call 'evidence' is really just second hand 'experience'. The experience of science, logic, mathematics.... Ha ha

  • You have an odd understanding of science, which probably means you haven't actually spent any time studying it. So you're saying we lack evidence in physics, chemistry, biology, etc.? Evidence is by no means second hand experience, and to call it that way is rather ridiculous. I don't believe in gravity because newton said so, but rather because we have certain laws dictating its rules. These laws can be tested and verified independently. I'm sorry, but your definition is rather naive.

  • Now, the authority of such scientific evidence (especially when compared to human experience) is based on the fact that it is consistant. But that consistency is only due to the fact that the experience is a very narrow one. Like the experience of a mentally disabled person who might see the world in a limited, one dimensional, shallow way, but with absolute certainty!

    So to base your idea of the world on scientific evidence exclusively is like living the world view of an idiot savant.

  • So what is your idea of the world? I'm not going to denigrate it the way you have done with mine, but I'm really just curious. Because basing it on solely on what you feel to be true and correct would seem to me to be arrogant, because the only way it could actually be a true representation would be if you were the center of the universe. Otherwise everyones interpretations are totally different, whereas with science its true across the board.

  • And this is science based idiot savant like view is very much the description of the world we are brought up to live in today.

    So much so that we have been conditioned to never even consider using the extraordinarily living science lab we all own - the human body, human perception (!) for anything more than watching TV, shopping, eating and f*cking (and conducting science's experiments!).

  • Scientific experiments, logic, maths and the description they provide are great tools yes (I'm not saying they aren't) but they speak only of the limited experience and perceptual abilities of their scientific apparatus of instruments and equations.

    But our own human instrument of navigation, our human perception can take us directly and deeply into knowledge/ experience - for they are really the SAME THING.

    What we call knowledge now is a separate entity because we have got it from science.

  • Absolutely true, science is limited in what it can tell us. Thats why scientists won't ever claim to have it all figured out. Science recognizes its limitations and attempts to answer the questions posed by them. What you're talking about is sitting down and thinking you've figured it all out and then proclaiming that to be true. Who knows, maybe someone can figure everything out just be listening to their heart, but I'm not going to believe that person unless they can prove it to me.

  • Furthermore, of course I would attempt to prove that some supernatural experience had a natural cause. That doesn't mean that if you showed me evidence that went against nature I wouldn't believe it. I would examine it for its validity, rather then saying "well, psychetruth says its supernatural, so I'll just take their word for it". You're claim that I wouldn't believe your evidence simply because it challenges my preconceptions demonstrates the dogmatic lengths you ascribe to your own belief

  • College Girl are you under stress? You are doing a great job!

    Keep up the work.

    You are beautiful as well! Don't let the wolves take that away from you!

  • why is this girl yelling?

  • So you can hear her.

  • That was my fault. I didn't microphone her properly. It's a new microphone. I think I figured out the problem though and It shouldn't be problem in the future.

  • So you you would rather have videos talking about how people control your mind instead of videos about how to control your own mind?

    Philosophically, this video is far more profound.

    If you want to look at it in terms of control though, materialism is control mechanism fostered by the state to make a populace more controllable. This is why Marxism stresses it so much. Communism is an attempt at total control of a populace by eliminating religious & Commercial influences.

  • can anyone actually show anything on the "right" side of the board actually existing ? or does it just come down to wishful thinking ?

  • The right side of the board is thought.

    People experience it constantly; your ideas, your mental pictures, your dreams, ideas communicated through words, art, engineering, architecture, affection, etc. etc. etc.

  • So when we ask "why the sky is blue ?" One side it's "the scattering of light from the Sun" and the other side says "the gods paints it blue each morning" and they are both equally valid ?

    Also not sure why Communist was place together with Metaphysical naturalism. It would seem to me that Libertarianism would have fit much better and maybe Vegetarianism

  • ... dunno what constitutes proof in your universe - try Colin Wilson's books on the Occult & his investigations that span 20 years.

  • yeah, I think I'm firmly on the left hand side of that board :-)

    For I would love there to be UFO landing, Lock ness monsters roaming around or [insert your favourite here] but so far they have all turned out to be fakes or otherwise explained.

    Who's in favour of an "after life" ? Well me for one, but no matter how hard I wish it to be true it doesn't change the reality of the situation.

  • "Who's in favour of an "after life" ? Well me for one, but no matter how hard I wish it to be true it doesn't change the reality of the situation."

    Doesn't 'an afterlife' by its very nature exclude knowledge of the experience in this life?

    Loch Ness Monsters & UFOs I wouldn't personally place on the table in this particular discussion, far too material.

    As I said before - go read those books ;-)

    (or not, as the case may be)

  • I've read many books on the subject and I think I'm one of the very few people that have actually read the bible.

    Surely we need some (any ) tangible proof of an afterlife before toss away the life we know that we have.

  • I understand your perspective.

    For believers, rather than feeling that they are tossing their life away, I assume they view the belief as an enhancement.

    The actual belief within itself is pretty harmless, even if it is potentially delusional. It may also contribute to the persons physical health & well being - less stress & concern about dying.

    These " beliefs " are a matter of faith & everybody is entitled to exercise faith if they choose.

    cheers :-)

  • Of course I believe you have the right to follow which ever believe structure you choose. For example vegetarianism may seem weird to some but perfectly logical to others. Saying that we all need to keep in mind that one person's rights end where another's begin. We can't allow "personal beliefs" to justify things like "female circumcision".

    Magical thinking can be quite dangerous, when we start invading countries because "god told me".

  • "Magical thinking can be quite dangerous, when we start invading countries because "god told me"."

    Yes, I agree.

    Mind you, even purely materialistic philosophies like hardcore atheism promote this kind of activity - so what we actually see is simply humans being bastards & using lame excuses.

  • hard to argue with that ;-)

  • We need tangible proof that animals have or don't have an afterlife.

    The bible proclaims they don't.

  • not sure what you mean... if the animals (excluding humans) had an afterlife then I would be happy to eat them as I'd be doing them a favour getting them to the afterlife quicker. As it is I don't believe animals (including humans) have an afterlife so trying to avoid eating them or at less do it quickly and painlessly if you are going to ( not humans but other animals I mean) is a good thing.

  • I wish she would discuss the possibilities of supernatural influences with respect to quantum physics. After all, In quantum physics, thought can change the outcome of the result of an experiment ?

    The Schrodinger's cat experiment and the wave-particle duality slit experiments can be taken as examples.

  • Thought is above matter, for human beings, because we are very complex and we influence ourselves a lot.

  • What you see may not necessarily be objective reality. However, there is still something you call an objective reality, whether you call it matter or not.

    So matter is important, but you need to have thought to observe or do anything. But the problem with magic is how far you believe that thought has an impact on objective reality. I don't think it does, but you can change how any observer sees such a thing.

    So if you want to do anything, you have to think differently.

  • "But the problem with magic is how far you believe that thought has an impact on objective reality."

    Go look at a car and see if thought hasn't impacted the objective reality of the matter that car consist of.

  • "see if thought hasn't impacted the objective reality of the matter that car consist of.:

    Are you practicing NLP? Matter is arrangement of atoms. A car is an object designed from material made of matter.

    The question is can thought effect the atomic arrangement of matter and the process that pertains to that arrangement?

    From the quantum physics the evidence appears to be "yes".

    This fact means the concept has crossed from the realm of thought into the realm of materialism. IMO.

  • "But the problem with magic is how far you believe that thought has an impact on objective reality."

    This is an unanswered question. To take it further means one is creating their mythology. Which is OK. We all create our own mythology anyway. Be it materialism or dualism their is no deterministic answer. So go with the one that floats your boat. Which is pretty much what we got.

    There are so many pounding their mythology as "the truth".

  • I'm not trying to get that complex.

    If man through thought and action can rearrange atoms and give them complex structure and function, then thought is influencing matter.

  • "If man through thought and action can rearrange atoms and give them complex structure and function, then thought is influencing matter."

    So does this fact make it a supernatural phenomena?

    Or does it make a scientific phenomena that over time and can be deterministic in behavior, hence materialistic?

  • Thought hasn't changed the matter that the car consists of. The makers of the car didn't look at a pile of dirt and THINK that they could change it into metal. Rather they thought of a way to arrange matter in a functional way. For thought to influence matter one would have to be able to change things simply by thinking of them differently with no physical exertion required. Our brains can rearrange things in our minds but cannot alter our surrounding environment independent of motion.

  • "Rather they thought of a way to arrange matter in a functional way."

    Exactly... the thought affecting matter.

    ". For thought to influence matter one would have to be able to change things simply by thinking of them differently with no physical exertion required."

    That's your assumption, not mine. It doesn't matter if thought is affecting matter via a body or not, it's still thought affecting matter.

  • I like this woman. Smart and attractive.

  • i agree...giggity

  • "I Am therefore I think...don't you know who i think i am". (;-)

    Thoughts are things!

  • Great video. When I was in Catholic school I was on the right side of your white board in just about everything and then as I got older I played the middle and now I feel more leaning towards the left side. I'm not a hundred percent on your left side because I still have doubts about a lot of things. Thank you. How come you didn't join the Hotfactsgirls? lol

  • real spirituality is beyond thoughts or matter.

  • insanity also

  • no, insanity is completely stuck in the lower realms of emotions and thoughts and the material. look into quantum physics - the stuff that vibrates at high frequencies, and organically phase conjugates, that's the real stuff it's all made of. the rest is the insane illusion, turkey.

  • but to reiterate -- ANYTHING OF THE MIND OR THE MATTER IS BELOW SPIRIT AND IS NOT MAGICK. although you have to get that stuff in line and use it in your approaching communion with the spirit.

  • Who are the writers??????? This girl sounds exactly like the dark girl....hmmmmmmmm

  • Great video!

    Sadly many "Christians" are on the "Materialistic" side... =/

    Anyways, I enjoyed it very much! Very intelligent!

    Much love,

  • Mind is over matter. Mind moves matter i.e. our bodies.

    Yeah. Think about it.

  • Good video, haven't been a big fan of the magic series but I enjoyed this one.

  • Can you summarize the Kaballah?

  • I haven't studied Kaballah enough to actually summarize it. It Jewish mysticism and use a great deal of symbolism.

    I am far more informed about Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic and Gnostic mysticism than Kaballah.

    I've thought about doing a general video mysticism and explaining the difference between magical practices and mystical practices. So I might eventually do that.

  • I look forward to your video on freewill, could you look at determinism at the same time?

    Quantum physics doesn't show freewill; it seems to show randomness...the problem is just because things might appear random to us that doesn't mean they are actually random.

    In a universe governed by causality randomness wouldn't exist because you wouldn't have effects/events/actions that didn't have a cause. We might not know what that cause was but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

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