@uneekspark oh and i dont agree with getting rid of the morning after pill...that is a different story. that stops the sperm meeting the egg in its tracks, therefore life hasnt taken place. they would be pretty stupid to ban one of the only abortion-preventatives available other than abstinence lol.
@uneekspark the woman who is drugged, raped & isnt aware, can still give up their child for adoption.your question If there are thousands of families wanting to adopt then why dont they? Have you looked into how HARD the government & child services has made it to adopt in most countries?!?! there is so much red tape to cut through, & that aside... an extremely small number of those who would love to adopt...cant afford to. that being said, there ARE many ppl adopting every day. and fostering.
@bubblyblossom1 I see logic and timing evade you go look up the definition of the word Theory for one and to answer your question, yes I've studied history and religion quite a bit. I've red the Bible the Qur'an and a few other religious texts and they all are paved with the hatred and misunderstandings of man. Nothing more
@uneekspark not really a good argument. Thats saying, its okay to murder an innocent child coz a bad life is on the cards....um....????? The thing is... if the parent didnt want a child, why didnt they use protection or keep there legs closed? even rape victims have no excuse. theres this thing called the morning after pill. take that and you wont get pregnant...and if you dont take that, there are thousands of families desperate for a child who would be happy to adopt. Murder is not the answer.
@uneekspark abortion a religious thought? you have got to be kidding. science doesnt back you love. a 4 week old unborn child already has a brain, heart, hands and feet among other things. They are a LIFE. so its got nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with protecting the lives of innocent children. obviously Christians are wave the pro-life banner, but they aint the only ones. oh and by the way...evolution, is also a theory.
Shes not pro-life...if your pro-life...abortion is not acceptable in ANY form. Thats saying... "oh, no, abortion is murder, no way...oh but you were raped so... you know, go ahead and stab that child in the head .... its totally justified coz you went through something terrible." how ridiculous. If you were raped, that is awful...but there is such thing as the morning after pill. not hard to get a hold of at all. and extremely cheap. there is also such thing as adoption. we dont need to murder
if you say your a people who have freedom of choice, freedom of speech and freedom of opinion....yet you deny the child a choice, your a hypocrite. Indeed Creationism and Evolution should both be presented in a school. If a person has a right to freedom of choice, they have a right to be educated on their options.
@bubblyblossom1 Whose creationism? The Christians? The Greeks? Any number of religious beliefs of Native American peoples, South American natives, or Australian aborigines? Zoroastrianism? Scientology? Perhaps the Norse pantheon, since Thor is a popular movie now. How about some Chinese myths? No 7 days or Garden of Eden there.
Obviously, *some* of these beliefs must be wrong. Let the secular world know what you agree upon once you manage to reach a religious consensus on creation.
@fkbryce Seeing as the USA is supposed to be "Christian" nation... and im not American so you can hash that out with whoever you want to but its not my concern personally...it would make sense that the American kids would be taught what the founding fathers and pioneers believed and wrote the constitution based on.... doesnt have to be presented as fact, but it does have to be presented. As far as all the other religions youve mentioned, I think a RELIGION class would be a fantastic idea! contd.
@fkbryce Also presenting what R myths & what has historical evidence & what is unknown. Not only is it fascinating, ther is alot 2 learn about mankind, the world & other cultures through religious education. I am not a Muslim but Ive learned about their faith through muslims I worked with. I also had the opportunity 2 form my own opinion on the religion based on what sum1 who lives it taught, instead of assuming all Muslims R evil rag-head terrorists - alot of kids think that 4 lack of education
@wallofjustin It's important that children are taught both sides of the unicorn debate, so that they can grow up to be thinking adults who may or may not believe in unicorns.
Teach the controversy! What should we also teach the theory of intelligent falling alongside the theory of gravity? Of course!
His noodlyness would be angered. Convert to the one true religion. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We have a striper factory and a beer volcano!
A social conservative wants to "shake things up"? The whole point of being conservative is NOT shaking things up! (That is, apart from running a government that provides absolutely no benefit to the poorest 99.99% of it's tax payers, dumbs them down into submission and then actually convinces them that to question this arrangement is "communist".)
I think every politician should have to answer one question: If you were faced with a dilemma, where you were making a policy decision and you had to choose between either the public good or what you believed to be the will of God, what would you choose?
Creationism in schools? You cant just teach both sides you have to teach ALL sides, What about my beliefs that humans were created from velociraptors mating with alien star gods? TEACH THE CONTROVERSY AMERICA!!!
I wish there was a politician who could actually answer questions.
Do you think abortion should be legal? YES
Do you think creationism should be taught in school? FUCK YOU FOR EVEN ASKING SUCH A STUPID QUESTION.
If a politician would just not be embarrassed to express their real views, so much so, like in this video, that they half-answer questions and equivocate, they would get a lot more votes.
Wow did they not even feel the wave of ignorance fly over the room when she said teaching religious hulabaloo was compared as "equal" to evolution?? and they tackled ABORTION?!?!?
well fuck im going to open a school and teach kids how a giant talking cherry pie came down from the sky and birthed the firts humans and thats why our blood is red like cherrys and our skin is light to dark skin tones like the crust. and then tell them when you eat cherry pie your drinking the essence of our savior cherry pie delight
I like Katie but, I don't care for the ambush interview. If you are the one running for office then understand the point of this type of interview. I watched an interview with President Clinton earlier where the reporter has him come on his show under false pretenses and then attacks him.
lets teach both sides, the books wont change, there is no evidence for creation, therefor nothing to teach, thats what they dont understand, you cant teach evidence that simply is not there
what sides are they talking about? Why mix bronze age mythology with science? There is no controversy here. Religion i interersting as a historical force and should be taught in order to provide a background for history class, science is based on evidence and proofs. Its a bad thing mixing them, they havenothing in common.
Pro-choice! Science over religion. Evolution over creationism. Religion has stagnated the knowledge of man for far too long. It's time these bronze age fairy tales remain in the past where they belong.
Abortion is wrong- but ant-abortion people are I have to say two-face because most do not want or allow unwanted children who are alive in there home to rasie
well, i wouldn't creationism or any kind of religion in public schools. If you believe in god no problem bro but don't go spreading it out into public schools. Thats what catholic schools are for.
@m1grand70 a creationist could make the same argument for public schools. Seeing as Catholic schools teach BOTH creationism AND evolution... even though majority of Catholics do not believe in evolution AT ALL... they still present it to the kids. seems they are the only schools playing fair. But the public schools/government schools arent as liberal. Unfair on the kids.
If they allow creationism in school, I think evolution should also be taught in church. If church views come to school then evolution should go to church.
@bryan51672 well its about education and history. Not worship. Church and school are two different things. Their purposes R different. When teaching creationism your not teaching kids to worship God like church does. Your presenting to them the theory of creation. Just as you would present the theory of evolution. Fact or theory, call it what you will, but if it makes you feel better, Catholic schools DO teach both sides. They have Human Biology which teaches you about monkey ancestory etc lol
@bubblyblossom1 That's an opinion but one that's flawed. If you teach creationism, you will have to explain "created by whom". If you assume an ultimate creator, you are by definition teaching religion. If you want creationism, go to church. It's taught there every time they open the doors. Leave that mess where it belongs, in that old book of made up lies called the bible and in church.
a woman's body is her own decison. creationism should not be taught in schools. it is a religous theory that should be taught at sunday schoo, private schools and in churches...not in schools where children of all religons attend
@sonyaroxxx i think all mainstream religions should be taught. But were not talking about worshiping a certain God. Were talking about the "theory" that the earth and man was made by a higher entity "GOD" rather than monkey ancestory and big bangs. Both sides of the coin are theories. Why not present both? Also, yes, a womans body is their own decision...but somebody elses body is NOT. Murdering a child has nothing to do with a womans body. Why cant she take morning after pill or use adoption?
I don't give a damn what anybody believes about God; I just don't want them trying to impose that crap on me... or to intellectually cripple our children by teaching myths as science. Cindy Mccain is either a fool or a charlatan. I don't know which but i suspect she has a generous dose of both!
@TheViewFromSugarHill presenting a theory is not "imposing crap" on people. Its presenting a historical theory...which by the way, is exactly the same as evolution... a THEORY. unproveable as an absolute. Just another theory option for those who dont like the God idea. which is why its good to present both.
@MTqzq your a sick joke...yeh lets kill a baby because of someones misfortune.... nice.
there is no excuse, rape victums can use the morning after pill...which is cheap and easily accessible...or if they dont bother to do that easy option, they can give away the child to adoptive parents who cant have kids.
abortion is not just removing a lump of goo from a womb. Its murdering a life. a 4 week old unborn child already has a brain, heart, hands and feet.
@MTqzq i am a sick person because i dont want to murder a child who already has a heartbeat a brain hands and feet and more? how does that make me sick? i think those who use the excuse "I went through something terrible, so i can murder a baby" are sick. The sheer selfishness of people is sick. it is selfish to make excuses to murder. ESPECIALLY when there are ALTERNATIVE options such as a morning after pill. Sick sick world.
@bubblyblossom1 Few people do, majority of abortions are before that state. As for life taking place....lol. Seriously, anything organic is life, even your dead skin cells as they use to be alive. Do you know whats selfish? Forcing a child into an unloving and unwanted and most likely impoverished family just so you can satisfy your own desire to impose your own values onto other people because you are insecure.
I say we keep religion and Government out of scholl altogether and have more focus on history. This will allow some interested and not influenced to choose the path that excites them the most. PS Cindy make s agood MILF.
Iv seen a LateTerm abortion video and I will say this !! Its Sick and wrong - anyone who is for this practice is no better then Charles mansion or any other lunatic with a knife
Here's what should irritate people about Creationism: If you want to teach it, great. That's fine. However, teach evolution in the church/Sunday school/Home school, etc. And, teach both sides? Are there not multiple sides? Should we not teach the Hindu form of Creation? The Egyptian form of Creation? Etc? It's just religion's way of indoctrinating those it does not have close contact with. That's the only way religion stays afloat - If people are raised into it.
@aquatix well they DO teach evolution in Catholic Schools love. Human Biology teaches all that monkey ancestory business & the rest. So.. the other schools R the ones being unfair. Catholic schools present BOTH. as should other schools. As far as teaching evolution in a church goes? thats silly. A churches purpose is completely different to a schools purpose. Churches are for fellowship, getting together 2 pray & learn how 2 WORSHIP. not 2 b educated. School = educate & present BOTH theories
@bubblyblossom1 - First, creationism is not a 'scientific theory', a hypothesis is more accurate. Second, who's to determine which 'creation tale' we tell in schools. I assume you are partial to your Bible's account of creation, yes? Why should the Bible take precedence over the Hindu tale or ancient Egyptian tale?
I amend the assertion it should be taught in church, thank you. How about home schooling, though?
And, I agree...a church teaches people how to worship; could not have said it better
Heh, not even legally able to abort a pregnacy, if that gets past as a law in the US, none of you Americans are ever going to be able to talk about 'Freedom' ever again to other countries. Every woman has a natural born right to choose if she gives birth I say, it's her body, her choice.
@gradyiscool tell that to the women born in the days when abortion was unheard of. Women are NOT born with a right to murder. If they want to keep their bodies and their "freedom" then they should keep their legs shut... or use contraceptives...or if there was an accident or rape, go and take the morning after pill or give up the child to adoption. Murder is not the answer. You arent removing a lump of goo, your murdering a child who has a brain, heart, hands and feet & the 5 senses!
yes, children will make good choices when it comes to evolution vs creationism
why i remember when i was a kid i did nothing but play video games & ignore my homework & look at me now! 20 years old, 9th grade education if u can even call it that, i never paid attention, never had a job & live off my parents, go go creationism
@gta747 yeh, coz a child's lack of determination and responsibility comes out of choosing creationism and not out of a lack of parenting.... right.... PFFFT.
its like when you teach a history class and some dale gribble wannabe comes in and says "teach both sides of the kennedy assasination" (the grassy knoll ect) you would probably kick that fool in the teeth before you let him teach that.
now we have people telling us that we should teach creationism when there is NO proof whatsoever to back up anything
@reignofcrimson have you even studied history or religion? or are you just assuming there is "no proof whatsoever" according to the teachers who told you so and who also told you that monkeys are your great great great cousins? Evolution is a theory too you know...one that also cannot be "proven" and only assumed.
This 'teaching both sides of the argument' certainly isn't used by (most) religious people when it comes to educating their kids about religion itself!
@Goi825 and what are you going by? a next door neighbour who is brainwashing their kids? I can speak for a few hundred Christians I know who teach both creation and evolution. They present both sides. Sure, they encourage their faith... but they dont force it. So watch it when you say "most" religious people. I think youll find its a pig-headed minority who dont teach their children about different kinds of religions and theories.
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions in the USA. The majority of abortions are birth control. Those who are pro-abortion often argue "what about rape and incest?", which accounts for such a small percentage. I highly doubt the pro-abortion folks would being willing to outlaw abortion except for cases of rape/incest. They wouldn't because they want it for birth control reasons.
She doesn't have a problem with education of any kind? So she wouldn't care if flying spaghetti monsterism was also taught in schools? It's about as scientifically valid as "creationism."
Why would we let kids decide what is true? Kids need to be RAISED by responsible adults; they can't just grow up deciding for themselves what's what. Education is part of this - they need to be taught facts. Teaching myth next to fact, and not differentiating one from another, saying they're both "theories," is far from proper education.
Just wondering something. These people that support the "both sides should be thought"-idea, do they also teach their children about other religions? About being an atheist? Or Elvis still being alive?
@Ko252 I know many christians who teach their kids about many religions and also include the evolution theory in the science teachings. So yes. they do. its only educating about different choices and ways of life. Its not all presented as fact. And an "athiest" or "evolutionist" can present creationism the same way. As a theory believed worldwide for centuries with its own history book, the bible. Doesnt mean they have to encourage the kid to read the bible or believe anything.Its just education
@bubblyblossom1 That is the difference. The theory of evolution isnt about different choices or the way of life. And a scientific theory isnt the same as a theory, but equal a fact. Otherwise it would be called a hypothesis.There are a lot of theories believed worldwide for centuries with their own history books, and the Bible is not the only one.To even compare evolution with creationsm, is idiocy. Why? The former is a scientific fact, and describes the variation and development, not creation
@kingkino1021 God is imaginary, if he were real we'd be born with the knowledge of this. But thats not the case. And so it's merely a ruse to make chaos of the simple minded
@splicedenergy o contray my friend. We are born with the need for relationship. We are interdependent. Just as a baby is dependent on its parents for survival, so are we dependent on God for survival and by survival I mean guidance, support, encouragement, faith, hope, love in this life and the next. That argument is a cop out. Read the bible.
@kingkino1021 HA. God is a manmade concept. The bible has information from the sumerian texts, and the rest is extremely embelished. And these say nothing about heaven, hell, satan, god or anything supernatural. It doesn't say anything about marriage, gays, condemnation, discrimination or any justifications to harm each other. Adam and eve are fictional charachters just like all other people named in that travesty of a book that has murdered 950 million people for nothing. Its fake
@kingkino1021 I have read it several times do not think all it takes to become a believer is reading that damaging and warped fictional book. It actually turns people into athiests than it does into believers. For a very simple reason. When we read aesops fables we know its only a story and this is also true for the holy books too. Because they are not real. It's full of sick and twisted bullshit. There is nothing you can do to dumb down people to your level Trust me. Get lost again
@splicedenergy my dear friend the pity i feel for you but thank you for sharing with me your thoughts because they let me know exactly how someone can read the bible with blind eyes. God surpasses human logic or reasoning. God made man lol guess your argument is covered in the bible where it talks about the pride of life huh? The bible has 40 different eye witnesses all from different time periods saying the same thing about events to come thousands of years later and that's made up......
@kingkino1021 You've been brainwashed probably from a young age. By humans, before you were even able to read. You probably have the god gene passed down to you. The only thing that our children will be taught is the facts and the truth. And the truth is if the god you believe in or any god ever invented is to be taught in school it will be in the same context as Zeus. They were ignorant underdeveloped reasonings for things we know now. Technology has shown us the truth. God = myth
@splicedenergy o i hear that alot and the truth is i wasn't indoctrinated in a church. I experienced God in an awesome way right before I was about to kill myself. Surpassed all logic and reasoning my friend to go from total depravity to total love. Nothing can compare to that. No drug, no woman, no drink. History is written by the victor and popularity used as the majority rule. History books are 50/50 truth/lie. So technology is your god? Look up hyperspaces and see what technology says
@kingkino1021 You you experianced was the survival mechanism which induced your subconsious and the only thing you could consiously attribute it to was god. If you never heard of god, ever. You would not have had the same reactions and your experiance you would be attributing to something else. It is 98% lies I dunno where you came up with 50. Rubbish is rubbish. I'm sorry thats just how it is. 15+ years of intense researching confirms it. You can believe if you want
@splicedenergy by your logic and comprehension thats what you came up, that's cool. I know many won't believe for one reason or another...pity. It was a survival mechanism, GOD. In HIM survival is infinite! What you said doesn't explain His presence and how could it, it surpasses human reasoning and sensory observation. Just depends on what you research, everything I research confirms God as truth and creator. You can choose to be in disbelieve if you want but don't say nobody told you. Jesus!
@fkbryce i know. if theyre going to teach creationism then they would have to teach all the other fairy tales out their. and also, you dont teach something to children that has absolutely no evidence behind it.
@fkbryce thats why i would not vote for a creationist, not because their beleif but because what it takes to have such a beleif, it requires a lack of critical thinking which is obviously needed to run a country
Exactly, if they want to teach "Creationism" alongside the fact of evolution, then why not the ancient Egyptian idea that the God Ra pulls the sun across the sky with his chariot next to learning about meteorology.
Creationism belongs in religion classes.
If its not good enough for academic journals, its not good enough for the classroom.
@fkbryce pffftttt.....like scientists are all in a little bubble of blissful agreement on everything. They have more denominations then a western state. lol
@bubblyblossom1 I see you have no understanding of the process of science. You may want to keep your embarrassing comments to a minimum.
Regarding your comment on denominations, if you are saying that scientists, which is a very broad classification of people, have widely varying religious beliefs, you are correct. Any worldwide sample of such a large number of people would yield the same results.
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Is it ok to kill my 2 year old if I decide he's too much for me to handle?- People need to learn to be responsible for themselves and keep their legs together. People cannot own people. A mother does NOT have a right to kill her baby, If anything she should kill herself.- Are you people retarded? Be responsible and control yourself, if you can't, you should be in some sort of hospital.
Who are you to tell people that they need to control themselves when you cannot even control yourself?
Insinuating that people are "retarded", irresponsible, and mentally deranged, then wishing that a pregnant woman would murder herself (consequently killing the baby) demonstrates a lack of control on your part.
TheUnblinkingEar- I took responsibility for my kid and I didn't even have to kill him-You idiots speak of getting pregnant as if you don't know how it happens and it happens at random- Be responsible for yourself and keep your nasty legs closed- You want to have sex and be irresponsible for the outcome.Should I feel sorry for you because you got pregnant ? You are evil. Stop killing babies you retard and stop trying to justify murder.I am not your friend.
You are putting words in my mouth and assuming that I am something I am not.
I have not said anything about my opinion on abortion but because I point out that you shouldn't be a hypocrite, you instantly throw me into the "evil" category even though I never said anything that would warrant you to have that impression.
Jumping to blind, hateful conclusions will not get you far. If you wish to make your point, please do it in a rational, respectful manner; otherwise, no one will want to listen.
Our bodies are made from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7 & 3:19). Researchers at NASA's Ames Research Center confirmed that every element in Humans can be found in the soil. Scientist have discovered that the Human body is comprised of some 28 base and trace elements- ALL of which are found in the dust of the ground.-
whoa whoa whoa, they have afollow up question on abortion when she was quite clear on that, but just accepted the fact she think its okay to teach psuedo science along side facts. does that strike anyone odd.
Abortion should only be allowed in instances of rape, incest, or if being pregnant poses a dangerous threat to the woman's life. Other than those three reasons, abortion should not take place. Adoption is always a better option if you can't afford a baby.
I can SOMEWHAT agree with what you've said here. However, my stance on the topic is that a woman's body is her own business and the government has no right to govern what she does with it.
I agree that adoption is a better alternative. This doesn't mean much though because it's still the individuals' right to decide what happens with her body and undeveloped fetus.
@Grummur "no right to govern what they do with it". right on, if woman want to use their bodies for prostitution, get illegal tatoos, kill someone or themselves, let them. it is their body, leave them alone.
There are no illegal tattoos. I am also a supporter of legal and taxable prostitution, how did you know? People kill themselves all the time and while it's by no means a victimless crime, what kind of a joke are you trying to make imposing an anti-suicide law? Who will you arrest? And yes, you're right, gunning down a contributing member of society should be logically compared to canceling what is effectively a scrambled egg with no capability for conscious thought.
@Grummur so, prostition is still illegal. thats my point, there is a stupid law where u cant kill ur self, yet the same ppl legalize abortion. the child is not a scambled egg even if u wanna say at firt it is. abortions are performed when they have a head an legs. and that's just the whole, "its not a person" argument, not anything else.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 I expected that rebuttal, which is why I said functioning mind and not functioning brain. Though the mind is a consequence of brain function, having a mind is what makes a person, a person. If a person who previously had a functioning mind is in coma and there is a reason to think they still have full brain function or will have full brain function, then we can't pull the plug.
If they are braindead though, then the person is already dead.
@captain150 your a moron, now it's that if someone doesn't have full brain function, but once did they have the right to life? that's bull, they are in the same boat as a fetus, regardless what they were before.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 No. They have the right to life up to and until they lose brain function. An example of this is Terri Schiavo. She, the person, died years before her physical body died.
However, being in a "coma" is a very vague thing. It simply means a deep state of unconsciousness.
In other words, there is a difference between coma and brain death. A brain dead person is dead. A comatose person may or may not be dead. It depends on the damage to their brain.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 no, you misinterpreted his argument, what he meant was that if a person may still have the capacity for cognitive thought, but is unable to do so at the present time, then no, the plug cannot be pulled, but if a person's BRAIN completely lacks function, then yes, they have lossed all ability of conscious thought, and are essentially dead...
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Your tag indicates you are a Pastafarian, what exactly are you trying to get at here? I thought they were pro-choice? Regardless, please don't insult either of our intelligences throwing around ridiculously skewed comparisons. If I weren't such a helpless troll-addict, I wouldn't even respond to such stupidity.
Abortion is the murder of an innocent pre-born baby.
The McCains are not pro-life: if pro-lifers want change, they need to nominate those who actually share their views, not war-mongering advocates of trickle down economics.
Exactly, that's why all drugs should be illegal, because whatever you want to put into your body is your own bloody choice and has nothing to to with the State.
You're completely wrong. You're just an example of a deluded Theist who refuses to even acknowledge that there's another side, much less look into it.
And this whole time I thought it was because I have a hard time believing in imaginary friends for adults.
Thank you, oh great swami, for opening my eyes to the facts that my reasons for being skeptical of religion are because I am a psychotic sex fiend, and not just an educated logical individual with a firm grasp on reality.
@balamanti2 I'd like to add that for someone who apparently takes offense to 'attitude', you certainly have no problem accusing others who don't follow your particular mode of thinking of being 'blind' as well as making baseless blanket statements about an entire sect of human theistic philosophy. Bravo, thy name is hypocracy.
Nobody's hysterical. you were openly offensive to another individual here and for some reason think it's your right to behave in such a manner and should not be held accountable. Reading your responses however, I can see you're just another one of those low-watt bulbs that can't piece valid arguments together, let alone come to the realization that you're as much in the wrong as anybody else here.
1 - "homeschooling" u like to think about things in you own Phantasm way - this is called "psychic masturbation"
2- from parents, are nicest folks i am sure they are much better parent than you. and by the way, U repeat what "Psho Dawkins" repeat about parants. that makes a Parrot, and Atheists are those who will bring children to be mass murders. So If it were for me, I would have your kids be removed from you and UR Atheist unethical upbringing
It's clear from your awful grammar and sentence structure that you are an idiot. Your inability to grasp the irony of your arguments is a similar clue-in.
I will not be responding to further posts from you, as doing so is frustrating for reasons both moral and intellectual. Please feel free to FOAD. Google that shit bro.
I'm not quite sure what she means by "both sides" I assume she means evolution vs the bible account, but if you decide to go down the "non science" route you would have to include Ainu, Hmong, Mansi, Orok, Jainism, Bahá'í, Bakuba,Yoruba among many, many others, because you can't just assume it's "science vs YOUR belief" if you teach one creation myth with no actual evidence you must treat all non evidence based beliefs as well, you have no choice, even scientology has a claim in that case
If you want both sides taught read your bible passages to your kids at home. We don't want your 10,000 year old earth theory in our public schools without evidence.
Wow, that sucks! Is it one of those early biology classes you take when your 14-15 years old that's all about the human body, or is the kind of biology class that talks about biomolecules, the cell, ecology, history of life? Because I mean that one.
I don't know how it is in the States, but in Quebec when you take Science, you really have to understand evolution. It's fundamental to the course; I can't imagine a comprehensive biology course without evolution :/
Out here in the states,Evolution is almost a swear word in classrooms.Different teachers teach differently,and there are only a few chapters in most High school Biology textbooks that deal with Evolution.
I actually had to explain a great deal about gene deletion, addition, and substitution, as well as the "difference" between "Macro" and "Micro"evolution,as well as Abiogenesis(all of which I studied on my own) to a friend, since his teacher just didn't understand it and couldn't teach it well.
This is how creationism should be taught is schools. "This is what the dumb ass christians think and this is why they are wronge."
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@Johnwr61575 That is exactly what I think everytime I hear someone say "teach the controversy."
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@uneekspark oh and i dont agree with getting rid of the morning after pill...that is a different story. that stops the sperm meeting the egg in its tracks, therefore life hasnt taken place. they would be pretty stupid to ban one of the only abortion-preventatives available other than abstinence lol.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@uneekspark the woman who is drugged, raped & isnt aware, can still give up their child for adoption.your question If there are thousands of families wanting to adopt then why dont they? Have you looked into how HARD the government & child services has made it to adopt in most countries?!?! there is so much red tape to cut through, & that aside... an extremely small number of those who would love to adopt...cant afford to. that being said, there ARE many ppl adopting every day. and fostering.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
Pardon my grammar my smartphone isn't that smart auto correcting with improper words
reignofcrimson 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 I see logic and timing evade you go look up the definition of the word Theory for one and to answer your question, yes I've studied history and religion quite a bit. I've red the Bible the Qur'an and a few other religious texts and they all are paved with the hatred and misunderstandings of man. Nothing more
reignofcrimson 7 months ago
@uneekspark not really a good argument. Thats saying, its okay to murder an innocent child coz a bad life is on the cards....um....????? The thing is... if the parent didnt want a child, why didnt they use protection or keep there legs closed? even rape victims have no excuse. theres this thing called the morning after pill. take that and you wont get pregnant...and if you dont take that, there are thousands of families desperate for a child who would be happy to adopt. Murder is not the answer.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@uneekspark abortion a religious thought? you have got to be kidding. science doesnt back you love. a 4 week old unborn child already has a brain, heart, hands and feet among other things. They are a LIFE. so its got nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with protecting the lives of innocent children. obviously Christians are wave the pro-life banner, but they aint the only ones. oh and by the way...evolution, is also a theory.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
Shes not pro-life...if your pro-life...abortion is not acceptable in ANY form. Thats saying... "oh, no, abortion is murder, no way...oh but you were raped so... you know, go ahead and stab that child in the head .... its totally justified coz you went through something terrible." how ridiculous. If you were raped, that is awful...but there is such thing as the morning after pill. not hard to get a hold of at all. and extremely cheap. there is also such thing as adoption. we dont need to murder
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
if you say your a people who have freedom of choice, freedom of speech and freedom of opinion....yet you deny the child a choice, your a hypocrite. Indeed Creationism and Evolution should both be presented in a school. If a person has a right to freedom of choice, they have a right to be educated on their options.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 Whose creationism? The Christians? The Greeks? Any number of religious beliefs of Native American peoples, South American natives, or Australian aborigines? Zoroastrianism? Scientology? Perhaps the Norse pantheon, since Thor is a popular movie now. How about some Chinese myths? No 7 days or Garden of Eden there.
Obviously, *some* of these beliefs must be wrong. Let the secular world know what you agree upon once you manage to reach a religious consensus on creation.
fkbryce 7 months ago
@fkbryce Seeing as the USA is supposed to be "Christian" nation... and im not American so you can hash that out with whoever you want to but its not my concern personally...it would make sense that the American kids would be taught what the founding fathers and pioneers believed and wrote the constitution based on.... doesnt have to be presented as fact, but it does have to be presented. As far as all the other religions youve mentioned, I think a RELIGION class would be a fantastic idea! contd.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@fkbryce Also presenting what R myths & what has historical evidence & what is unknown. Not only is it fascinating, ther is alot 2 learn about mankind, the world & other cultures through religious education. I am not a Muslim but Ive learned about their faith through muslims I worked with. I also had the opportunity 2 form my own opinion on the religion based on what sum1 who lives it taught, instead of assuming all Muslims R evil rag-head terrorists - alot of kids think that 4 lack of education
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
both sides... wasn't u.s. public school system already performing rather bad?
Darusdei 8 months ago
While your family believes in this so called "Creationism", my kids and I believe in Unicorns. Hence I DEMAND that Unicorns be taught in classes.
wallofjustin 8 months ago
@wallofjustin It's important that children are taught both sides of the unicorn debate, so that they can grow up to be thinking adults who may or may not believe in unicorns.
BigMikeMcBastard 8 months ago
i really do like to read unlike some others and found some of the crap interesting but still unbelievable
CupisHomines 9 months ago
why not? according to your scriptures women are unclean everytime they give birth. why are you supporting impregnating women w/ unclen spirits?
CupisHomines 9 months ago
Cindy McCain is a stupid BITCH!
MsCchief 9 months ago
There are no tits in this video.. and yes that is all I got from these two not hot women opening and closing their mouths.
tarnishedsoull 9 months ago
Teaching creationism shouldn't even be a debate..you can't teach something based on belief, end of discussion. Get Over it nut jobs.
jmeyerhead 9 months ago
Thank God McCain didn't win that election. Oh wait...thank the U.S. voters. God had nothing to do with it.
CarlitoKK 9 months ago
Jesus Christ! What an ugly old prostitute, no wonder she's McCain's wife.
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
Teach the controversy! What should we also teach the theory of intelligent falling alongside the theory of gravity? Of course!
His noodlyness would be angered. Convert to the one true religion. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We have a striper factory and a beer volcano!
RAmen and peas be with you
Jmike3543 10 months ago
I just love how when it comes to an interview with a liberal, they are completely open and honest.
Interview with bible bashing, creationist conservatives however, always always reeks of awkwardness, deflection and polished turd lies.
TheOtherBillyWoo 10 months ago
Of those two women, which is worse?
Hard to pick. They are both awful.
tnekkc 1 year ago
I laugh every time I hear "should creationism be taught in schools".. Might as well add an applied incantations class to the curriculum. >.>
ZirumsAngel 1 year ago
A social conservative wants to "shake things up"? The whole point of being conservative is NOT shaking things up! (That is, apart from running a government that provides absolutely no benefit to the poorest 99.99% of it's tax payers, dumbs them down into submission and then actually convinces them that to question this arrangement is "communist".)
Wallyrus 1 year ago
I think every politician should have to answer one question: If you were faced with a dilemma, where you were making a policy decision and you had to choose between either the public good or what you believed to be the will of God, what would you choose?
Wallyrus 1 year ago
Creationism in schools? You cant just teach both sides you have to teach ALL sides, What about my beliefs that humans were created from velociraptors mating with alien star gods? TEACH THE CONTROVERSY AMERICA!!!
fiveoclockpunk 1 year ago
I wish there was a politician who could actually answer questions.
Do you think abortion should be legal? YES
Do you think creationism should be taught in school? FUCK YOU FOR EVEN ASKING SUCH A STUPID QUESTION.
If a politician would just not be embarrassed to express their real views, so much so, like in this video, that they half-answer questions and equivocate, they would get a lot more votes.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
My dad dated Cindy Mccain back in 1969.No lie.
BabyFaceMakeUp123 1 year ago
@BabyFaceMakeUp123
Did he poop 'er?
Wallyrus 1 year ago
thank god this bitch isnt the first lady
volcom13xx 1 year ago
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Wallyrus 1 year ago
Wow did they not even feel the wave of ignorance fly over the room when she said teaching religious hulabaloo was compared as "equal" to evolution?? and they tackled ABORTION?!?!?
LonghairedGiraffe 1 year ago
Cunts like this make me sick.
How stupid can you get.
Lets also teach the Japanese creationism and Hindu Creationism too yea?
Fuck you Cindy !
atheistkyo 1 year ago
I still think he's a better choice than the mistake we made on 11/4/2008!
gunzrkewl 1 year ago
well fuck im going to open a school and teach kids how a giant talking cherry pie came down from the sky and birthed the firts humans and thats why our blood is red like cherrys and our skin is light to dark skin tones like the crust. and then tell them when you eat cherry pie your drinking the essence of our savior cherry pie delight
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago 10
@TAKEMARU666 I love you.
GreatProcrastinator 5 months ago
I like Katie but, I don't care for the ambush interview. If you are the one running for office then understand the point of this type of interview. I watched an interview with President Clinton earlier where the reporter has him come on his show under false pretenses and then attacks him.
bash5995 1 year ago
Evolution > Creationism
June28July 1 year ago 2
lets teach both sides, the books wont change, there is no evidence for creation, therefor nothing to teach, thats what they dont understand, you cant teach evidence that simply is not there
blazereef 1 year ago
"I'm pro-life but I am for the choice of killing a preborn human child."
Cindy McCain is an idiot...
ItalianSEAL 1 year ago
what sides are they talking about? Why mix bronze age mythology with science? There is no controversy here. Religion i interersting as a historical force and should be taught in order to provide a background for history class, science is based on evidence and proofs. Its a bad thing mixing them, they havenothing in common.
fmanh 1 year ago 11
People who are pro-life must hate it when people eat seeds or caviar.
mediumphill 1 year ago
Pro-choice! Science over religion. Evolution over creationism. Religion has stagnated the knowledge of man for far too long. It's time these bronze age fairy tales remain in the past where they belong.
jmlew 1 year ago 2
Abortion is wrong- but ant-abortion people are I have to say two-face because most do not want or allow unwanted children who are alive in there home to rasie
greensprig 1 year ago
well, i wouldn't creationism or any kind of religion in public schools. If you believe in god no problem bro but don't go spreading it out into public schools. Thats what catholic schools are for.
m1grand70 1 year ago
@m1grand70 a creationist could make the same argument for public schools. Seeing as Catholic schools teach BOTH creationism AND evolution... even though majority of Catholics do not believe in evolution AT ALL... they still present it to the kids. seems they are the only schools playing fair. But the public schools/government schools arent as liberal. Unfair on the kids.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
If they allow creationism in school, I think evolution should also be taught in church. If church views come to school then evolution should go to church.
bryan51672 1 year ago
@bryan51672 well its about education and history. Not worship. Church and school are two different things. Their purposes R different. When teaching creationism your not teaching kids to worship God like church does. Your presenting to them the theory of creation. Just as you would present the theory of evolution. Fact or theory, call it what you will, but if it makes you feel better, Catholic schools DO teach both sides. They have Human Biology which teaches you about monkey ancestory etc lol
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 That's an opinion but one that's flawed. If you teach creationism, you will have to explain "created by whom". If you assume an ultimate creator, you are by definition teaching religion. If you want creationism, go to church. It's taught there every time they open the doors. Leave that mess where it belongs, in that old book of made up lies called the bible and in church.
bryan51672 1 month ago
'ZEITGEIST' YOU IGNORANT FUCKS....
curlymolly70 1 year ago
a woman's body is her own decison. creationism should not be taught in schools. it is a religous theory that should be taught at sunday schoo, private schools and in churches...not in schools where children of all religons attend
sonyaroxxx 1 year ago
@sonyaroxxx i think all mainstream religions should be taught. But were not talking about worshiping a certain God. Were talking about the "theory" that the earth and man was made by a higher entity "GOD" rather than monkey ancestory and big bangs. Both sides of the coin are theories. Why not present both? Also, yes, a womans body is their own decision...but somebody elses body is NOT. Murdering a child has nothing to do with a womans body. Why cant she take morning after pill or use adoption?
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
I don't give a damn what anybody believes about God; I just don't want them trying to impose that crap on me... or to intellectually cripple our children by teaching myths as science. Cindy Mccain is either a fool or a charlatan. I don't know which but i suspect she has a generous dose of both!
TheViewFromSugarHill 1 year ago
@TheViewFromSugarHill presenting a theory is not "imposing crap" on people. Its presenting a historical theory...which by the way, is exactly the same as evolution... a THEORY. unproveable as an absolute. Just another theory option for those who dont like the God idea. which is why its good to present both.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
Could people stop using the rape victims which are only 2% as an excuse to have an abortion.
MrsBooker100 1 year ago 2
that's it baby, dodge them questions.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
there is no creationism side. creationism is not education. wtf.
akaskyscraper 1 year ago
@akaskyscraper is teaching a theory not education? just like the theory of evolution?
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
So people really believe you shouldn't abort a rape child?
Seriously? Thats not just a sick joke?
Man, people sure are retarded.
MTqzq 1 year ago
@MTqzq your a sick joke...yeh lets kill a baby because of someones misfortune.... nice.
there is no excuse, rape victums can use the morning after pill...which is cheap and easily accessible...or if they dont bother to do that easy option, they can give away the child to adoptive parents who cant have kids.
abortion is not just removing a lump of goo from a womb. Its murdering a life. a 4 week old unborn child already has a brain, heart, hands and feet.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 You are a sick human being.
A really sick person.
MTqzq 7 months ago
@MTqzq i am a sick person because i dont want to murder a child who already has a heartbeat a brain hands and feet and more? how does that make me sick? i think those who use the excuse "I went through something terrible, so i can murder a baby" are sick. The sheer selfishness of people is sick. it is selfish to make excuses to murder. ESPECIALLY when there are ALTERNATIVE options such as a morning after pill. Sick sick world.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 Yes, you are. I agree that you are a sick person. It pleases me that you agree.
A really, fucking sick person.
Also, you don't have to have that abortion, but why not just let everyone else do what they want, huh?
You sick freak.
MTqzq 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 Few people do, majority of abortions are before that state. As for life taking place....lol. Seriously, anything organic is life, even your dead skin cells as they use to be alive. Do you know whats selfish? Forcing a child into an unloving and unwanted and most likely impoverished family just so you can satisfy your own desire to impose your own values onto other people because you are insecure.
Shyhalu 6 months ago
@Shyhalu Well said.
JabberCT 4 months ago
I say we keep religion and Government out of scholl altogether and have more focus on history. This will allow some interested and not influenced to choose the path that excites them the most. PS Cindy make s agood MILF.
sniffy45 1 year ago
@sniffy45 i agree in a sense. Although history itself is wrought with religion and biblical accounts so you cant separate it entirely.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
Iv seen a LateTerm abortion video and I will say this !! Its Sick and wrong - anyone who is for this practice is no better then Charles mansion or any other lunatic with a knife
AudioRedemption 1 year ago
Here's what should irritate people about Creationism: If you want to teach it, great. That's fine. However, teach evolution in the church/Sunday school/Home school, etc. And, teach both sides? Are there not multiple sides? Should we not teach the Hindu form of Creation? The Egyptian form of Creation? Etc? It's just religion's way of indoctrinating those it does not have close contact with. That's the only way religion stays afloat - If people are raised into it.
aquatix 1 year ago 2
@aquatix well they DO teach evolution in Catholic Schools love. Human Biology teaches all that monkey ancestory business & the rest. So.. the other schools R the ones being unfair. Catholic schools present BOTH. as should other schools. As far as teaching evolution in a church goes? thats silly. A churches purpose is completely different to a schools purpose. Churches are for fellowship, getting together 2 pray & learn how 2 WORSHIP. not 2 b educated. School = educate & present BOTH theories
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 - First, creationism is not a 'scientific theory', a hypothesis is more accurate. Second, who's to determine which 'creation tale' we tell in schools. I assume you are partial to your Bible's account of creation, yes? Why should the Bible take precedence over the Hindu tale or ancient Egyptian tale?
I amend the assertion it should be taught in church, thank you. How about home schooling, though?
And, I agree...a church teaches people how to worship; could not have said it better
aquatix 7 months ago
god will not look after a country that has abortions,,same sex,,cloning. abortions is murder and a sin.
metal220 1 year ago
@metal220
God is imaginary.
ColoradoMikeyS2 1 year ago
Cindy = GILF
freethinker923 1 year ago 2
America: Are women are incubators by law!
Heh, not even legally able to abort a pregnacy, if that gets past as a law in the US, none of you Americans are ever going to be able to talk about 'Freedom' ever again to other countries. Every woman has a natural born right to choose if she gives birth I say, it's her body, her choice.
gradyiscool 1 year ago
@gradyiscool tell that to the women born in the days when abortion was unheard of. Women are NOT born with a right to murder. If they want to keep their bodies and their "freedom" then they should keep their legs shut... or use contraceptives...or if there was an accident or rape, go and take the morning after pill or give up the child to adoption. Murder is not the answer. You arent removing a lump of goo, your murdering a child who has a brain, heart, hands and feet & the 5 senses!
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
basically, a kid will choose Fantasy over a stressfull or unapealling Reality any day
gta747 1 year ago
yes, children will make good choices when it comes to evolution vs creationism
why i remember when i was a kid i did nothing but play video games & ignore my homework & look at me now! 20 years old, 9th grade education if u can even call it that, i never paid attention, never had a job & live off my parents, go go creationism
gta747 1 year ago
@gta747 gotta love those video games.
metal220 1 year ago
@gta747 yeh, coz a child's lack of determination and responsibility comes out of choosing creationism and not out of a lack of parenting.... right.... PFFFT.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
another bit of hypocrisy is exposed
its like when you teach a history class and some dale gribble wannabe comes in and says "teach both sides of the kennedy assasination" (the grassy knoll ect) you would probably kick that fool in the teeth before you let him teach that.
now we have people telling us that we should teach creationism when there is NO proof whatsoever to back up anything
reignofcrimson 1 year ago
@reignofcrimson have you even studied history or religion? or are you just assuming there is "no proof whatsoever" according to the teachers who told you so and who also told you that monkeys are your great great great cousins? Evolution is a theory too you know...one that also cannot be "proven" and only assumed.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
This 'teaching both sides of the argument' certainly isn't used by (most) religious people when it comes to educating their kids about religion itself!
Goi825 1 year ago
@Goi825 and what are you going by? a next door neighbour who is brainwashing their kids? I can speak for a few hundred Christians I know who teach both creation and evolution. They present both sides. Sure, they encourage their faith... but they dont force it. So watch it when you say "most" religious people. I think youll find its a pig-headed minority who dont teach their children about different kinds of religions and theories.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
OMG.... Such a small mind man, it's not even funny.
simhebert 1 year ago
Schools should teach facts, evolution is a fact, creationism is bullshit.
Experiment47 1 year ago
@Experiment47 no, it does not qualify to be bullshit. bullshit does not brainwash the masses.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@Experiment47 evolution is a fact? bahahahahaha.... who told you that? your teacher? its a theory love.
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions in the USA. The majority of abortions are birth control. Those who are pro-abortion often argue "what about rape and incest?", which accounts for such a small percentage. I highly doubt the pro-abortion folks would being willing to outlaw abortion except for cases of rape/incest. They wouldn't because they want it for birth control reasons.
vhopson 1 year ago 2
@vhopson absolutely agree
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
She doesn't have a problem with education of any kind? So she wouldn't care if flying spaghetti monsterism was also taught in schools? It's about as scientifically valid as "creationism."
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago 2
Why would we let kids decide what is true? Kids need to be RAISED by responsible adults; they can't just grow up deciding for themselves what's what. Education is part of this - they need to be taught facts. Teaching myth next to fact, and not differentiating one from another, saying they're both "theories," is far from proper education.
doctordogballs 1 year ago 4
Just wondering something. These people that support the "both sides should be thought"-idea, do they also teach their children about other religions? About being an atheist? Or Elvis still being alive?
Ko252 1 year ago 3
@Ko252 I know many christians who teach their kids about many religions and also include the evolution theory in the science teachings. So yes. they do. its only educating about different choices and ways of life. Its not all presented as fact. And an "athiest" or "evolutionist" can present creationism the same way. As a theory believed worldwide for centuries with its own history book, the bible. Doesnt mean they have to encourage the kid to read the bible or believe anything.Its just education
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 That is the difference. The theory of evolution isnt about different choices or the way of life. And a scientific theory isnt the same as a theory, but equal a fact. Otherwise it would be called a hypothesis.There are a lot of theories believed worldwide for centuries with their own history books, and the Bible is not the only one.To even compare evolution with creationsm, is idiocy. Why? The former is a scientific fact, and describes the variation and development, not creation
Ko252 7 months ago
McCain wants to teach Creationism in schools to expose kids to "both sides"?
Science is very strongly behind evolution, while there are hundreds of religious myths which also discuss the origins of man - and they hardly agree.
The amount of narrow-mindedness it takes to see that as "2 sides" is mind boggling and certainly not befitting of our leaders.
fkbryce 1 year ago 25
@fkbryce there are many religious ideas but only one truth. God created the world. Kids should learn about Him.
kingkino1021 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 God is imaginary, if he were real we'd be born with the knowledge of this. But thats not the case. And so it's merely a ruse to make chaos of the simple minded
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy o contray my friend. We are born with the need for relationship. We are interdependent. Just as a baby is dependent on its parents for survival, so are we dependent on God for survival and by survival I mean guidance, support, encouragement, faith, hope, love in this life and the next. That argument is a cop out. Read the bible.
kingkino1021 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 HA. God is a manmade concept. The bible has information from the sumerian texts, and the rest is extremely embelished. And these say nothing about heaven, hell, satan, god or anything supernatural. It doesn't say anything about marriage, gays, condemnation, discrimination or any justifications to harm each other. Adam and eve are fictional charachters just like all other people named in that travesty of a book that has murdered 950 million people for nothing. Its fake
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 I have read it several times do not think all it takes to become a believer is reading that damaging and warped fictional book. It actually turns people into athiests than it does into believers. For a very simple reason. When we read aesops fables we know its only a story and this is also true for the holy books too. Because they are not real. It's full of sick and twisted bullshit. There is nothing you can do to dumb down people to your level Trust me. Get lost again
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy my dear friend the pity i feel for you but thank you for sharing with me your thoughts because they let me know exactly how someone can read the bible with blind eyes. God surpasses human logic or reasoning. God made man lol guess your argument is covered in the bible where it talks about the pride of life huh? The bible has 40 different eye witnesses all from different time periods saying the same thing about events to come thousands of years later and that's made up......
kingkino1021 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 You've been brainwashed probably from a young age. By humans, before you were even able to read. You probably have the god gene passed down to you. The only thing that our children will be taught is the facts and the truth. And the truth is if the god you believe in or any god ever invented is to be taught in school it will be in the same context as Zeus. They were ignorant underdeveloped reasonings for things we know now. Technology has shown us the truth. God = myth
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy o i hear that alot and the truth is i wasn't indoctrinated in a church. I experienced God in an awesome way right before I was about to kill myself. Surpassed all logic and reasoning my friend to go from total depravity to total love. Nothing can compare to that. No drug, no woman, no drink. History is written by the victor and popularity used as the majority rule. History books are 50/50 truth/lie. So technology is your god? Look up hyperspaces and see what technology says
kingkino1021 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 You you experianced was the survival mechanism which induced your subconsious and the only thing you could consiously attribute it to was god. If you never heard of god, ever. You would not have had the same reactions and your experiance you would be attributing to something else. It is 98% lies I dunno where you came up with 50. Rubbish is rubbish. I'm sorry thats just how it is. 15+ years of intense researching confirms it. You can believe if you want
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy by your logic and comprehension thats what you came up, that's cool. I know many won't believe for one reason or another...pity. It was a survival mechanism, GOD. In HIM survival is infinite! What you said doesn't explain His presence and how could it, it surpasses human reasoning and sensory observation. Just depends on what you research, everything I research confirms God as truth and creator. You can choose to be in disbelieve if you want but don't say nobody told you. Jesus!
kingkino1021 1 year ago
@kingkino1021 In science class? Only if you teach science in Sunday school.
Let me know when you get a consensus on what that "one truth" is.
fkbryce 1 year ago
@fkbryce i know. if theyre going to teach creationism then they would have to teach all the other fairy tales out their. and also, you dont teach something to children that has absolutely no evidence behind it.
drewamira 1 year ago
@fkbryce thats why i would not vote for a creationist, not because their beleif but because what it takes to have such a beleif, it requires a lack of critical thinking which is obviously needed to run a country
blazereef 1 year ago
@fkbryce honestly right if sarah palin is elected anything i will eat my own eyeballs there should be an I.Q. test for all public offices
orkasteez 1 year ago
@fkbryce
Exactly, if they want to teach "Creationism" alongside the fact of evolution, then why not the ancient Egyptian idea that the God Ra pulls the sun across the sky with his chariot next to learning about meteorology.
Creationism belongs in religion classes.
If its not good enough for academic journals, its not good enough for the classroom.
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@fkbryce pffftttt.....like scientists are all in a little bubble of blissful agreement on everything. They have more denominations then a western state. lol
bubblyblossom1 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 I see you have no understanding of the process of science. You may want to keep your embarrassing comments to a minimum.
Regarding your comment on denominations, if you are saying that scientists, which is a very broad classification of people, have widely varying religious beliefs, you are correct. Any worldwide sample of such a large number of people would yield the same results.
I'm not sure what your point is, " (continued)
fkbryce 7 months ago
@bubblyblossom1 (continuation) but it supports that there are more than "two sides" to this fictitious debate.
fkbryce 7 months ago
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Is it ok to kill my 2 year old if I decide he's too much for me to handle?- People need to learn to be responsible for themselves and keep their legs together. People cannot own people. A mother does NOT have a right to kill her baby, If anything she should kill herself.- Are you people retarded? Be responsible and control yourself, if you can't, you should be in some sort of hospital.
shotsxxx 1 year ago
Who are you to tell people that they need to control themselves when you cannot even control yourself?
Insinuating that people are "retarded", irresponsible, and mentally deranged, then wishing that a pregnant woman would murder herself (consequently killing the baby) demonstrates a lack of control on your part.
Practice what you preach, my friend.
TheUnblinkingEar 1 year ago 4
TheUnblinkingEar- I took responsibility for my kid and I didn't even have to kill him-You idiots speak of getting pregnant as if you don't know how it happens and it happens at random- Be responsible for yourself and keep your nasty legs closed- You want to have sex and be irresponsible for the outcome.Should I feel sorry for you because you got pregnant ? You are evil. Stop killing babies you retard and stop trying to justify murder.I am not your friend.
shotsxxx 1 year ago
You are putting words in my mouth and assuming that I am something I am not.
I have not said anything about my opinion on abortion but because I point out that you shouldn't be a hypocrite, you instantly throw me into the "evil" category even though I never said anything that would warrant you to have that impression.
Jumping to blind, hateful conclusions will not get you far. If you wish to make your point, please do it in a rational, respectful manner; otherwise, no one will want to listen.
TheUnblinkingEar 1 year ago 3
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Our bodies are made from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7 & 3:19). Researchers at NASA's Ames Research Center confirmed that every element in Humans can be found in the soil. Scientist have discovered that the Human body is comprised of some 28 base and trace elements- ALL of which are found in the dust of the ground.-
shotsxxx 1 year ago
whoa whoa whoa, they have afollow up question on abortion when she was quite clear on that, but just accepted the fact she think its okay to teach psuedo science along side facts. does that strike anyone odd.
slicingwater 1 year ago
Abortion should only be allowed in instances of rape, incest, or if being pregnant poses a dangerous threat to the woman's life. Other than those three reasons, abortion should not take place. Adoption is always a better option if you can't afford a baby.
autumndominiqe 2 years ago
I can SOMEWHAT agree with what you've said here. However, my stance on the topic is that a woman's body is her own business and the government has no right to govern what she does with it.
I agree that adoption is a better alternative. This doesn't mean much though because it's still the individuals' right to decide what happens with her body and undeveloped fetus.
Grummur 1 year ago 23
@Grummur "no right to govern what they do with it". right on, if woman want to use their bodies for prostitution, get illegal tatoos, kill someone or themselves, let them. it is their body, leave them alone.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
There are no illegal tattoos. I am also a supporter of legal and taxable prostitution, how did you know? People kill themselves all the time and while it's by no means a victimless crime, what kind of a joke are you trying to make imposing an anti-suicide law? Who will you arrest? And yes, you're right, gunning down a contributing member of society should be logically compared to canceling what is effectively a scrambled egg with no capability for conscious thought.
Grummur 1 year ago
@Grummur so, prostition is still illegal. thats my point, there is a stupid law where u cant kill ur self, yet the same ppl legalize abortion. the child is not a scambled egg even if u wanna say at firt it is. abortions are performed when they have a head an legs. and that's just the whole, "its not a person" argument, not anything else.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Having a head and legs doesn't make a person, a person.
The defining characteristic that makes a human a person is a functioning mind.
captain150 1 year ago
@captain150 so if you're in a comma, i can kill you?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 I expected that rebuttal, which is why I said functioning mind and not functioning brain. Though the mind is a consequence of brain function, having a mind is what makes a person, a person. If a person who previously had a functioning mind is in coma and there is a reason to think they still have full brain function or will have full brain function, then we can't pull the plug.
If they are braindead though, then the person is already dead.
captain150 1 year ago
@captain150 your a moron, now it's that if someone doesn't have full brain function, but once did they have the right to life? that's bull, they are in the same boat as a fetus, regardless what they were before.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 No. They have the right to life up to and until they lose brain function. An example of this is Terri Schiavo. She, the person, died years before her physical body died.
However, being in a "coma" is a very vague thing. It simply means a deep state of unconsciousness.
In other words, there is a difference between coma and brain death. A brain dead person is dead. A comatose person may or may not be dead. It depends on the damage to their brain.
captain150 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 no, you misinterpreted his argument, what he meant was that if a person may still have the capacity for cognitive thought, but is unable to do so at the present time, then no, the plug cannot be pulled, but if a person's BRAIN completely lacks function, then yes, they have lossed all ability of conscious thought, and are essentially dead...
TheEnchantedCereal 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Your tag indicates you are a Pastafarian, what exactly are you trying to get at here? I thought they were pro-choice? Regardless, please don't insult either of our intelligences throwing around ridiculously skewed comparisons. If I weren't such a helpless troll-addict, I wouldn't even respond to such stupidity.
Grummur 1 year ago
@Grummur its just a name, and ur the troll bitch.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@Grummur
Abortion is the murder of an innocent pre-born baby.
The McCains are not pro-life: if pro-lifers want change, they need to nominate those who actually share their views, not war-mongering advocates of trickle down economics.
RichKnight2010 1 year ago
@Grummur I agree, I also believe drugs should be legal.
pontikas 1 year ago
@Grummur
Exactly, that's why all drugs should be illegal, because whatever you want to put into your body is your own bloody choice and has nothing to to with the State.
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
I want to cum on Cindys face.
muppetchile 2 years ago
Katie" Couric is a disgusting fascistic atheist
balamanti2 2 years ago
What's wrong with Atheism?
tempchannel1 2 years ago
"What is wrong with Atheism"
Atheism leads to Racism
Atheism leads to relive Morality hence justifies vices,
Atheism is an internal total despair and absurdity, that has the tendency to lead
human soul with the Darkest stains
Atheism is about stubbornness
Atheism proved to reject "the other" no matter what atheist try to lie about the opposite and much much more worse
balamanti2 2 years ago
You're completely wrong. You're just an example of a deluded Theist who refuses to even acknowledge that there's another side, much less look into it.
tempchannel1 2 years ago
I am not deluded , you are just too blind
most of Atheist are for psychological and sexual reasons
balamanti2 2 years ago
And this whole time I thought it was because I have a hard time believing in imaginary friends for adults.
Thank you, oh great swami, for opening my eyes to the facts that my reasons for being skeptical of religion are because I am a psychotic sex fiend, and not just an educated logical individual with a firm grasp on reality.
Grummur 2 years ago
You are a person with attitude and do not appear educated or sophisticated
balamanti2 2 years ago
@balamanti2 Your responses are as bereft of fact or supporting evidence as your belief system.
Grummur 2 years ago
@balamanti2 I'd like to add that for someone who apparently takes offense to 'attitude', you certainly have no problem accusing others who don't follow your particular mode of thinking of being 'blind' as well as making baseless blanket statements about an entire sect of human theistic philosophy. Bravo, thy name is hypocracy.
Grummur 2 years ago
Grummur
"my response brief"
1- i do not have appreciation to give time for bigoted unti-Christian hysterical morons
2- ``attitude`` U should have understood that is meant to be "bad attitude" like Childish sulking,
or psychological fixation hangup that is attitude
p.s. ( Go sew with a different oblesik )
balamanti2 2 years ago
Nobody's hysterical. you were openly offensive to another individual here and for some reason think it's your right to behave in such a manner and should not be held accountable. Reading your responses however, I can see you're just another one of those low-watt bulbs that can't piece valid arguments together, let alone come to the realization that you're as much in the wrong as anybody else here.
Grummur 2 years ago
You sound much like one pretentious hypocrite who assumes she / he is educated or well informed
but has a bigoted "agenda" on mind
balamanti2 2 years ago
Pot to kettle: you are a bigot.
Clearly, homeschooling has failed you. I don't want an apology from you though. I'd rather get one from your parents.
Grummur 1 year ago
1 - "homeschooling" u like to think about things in you own Phantasm way - this is called "psychic masturbation"
2- from parents, are nicest folks i am sure they are much better parent than you. and by the way, U repeat what "Psho Dawkins" repeat about parants. that makes a Parrot, and Atheists are those who will bring children to be mass murders. So If it were for me, I would have your kids be removed from you and UR Atheist unethical upbringing
balamanti2 1 year ago
It's clear from your awful grammar and sentence structure that you are an idiot. Your inability to grasp the irony of your arguments is a similar clue-in.
I will not be responding to further posts from you, as doing so is frustrating for reasons both moral and intellectual. Please feel free to FOAD. Google that shit bro.
Grummur 1 year ago 2
the case is closed it is not about Irony or whether I am an idiot, it is the cause is closed, you revert to preverted attacks on parents.
and name calling, and keep your mental masturbation habits
2nd I do not feel you deserve better English
balamanti2 1 year ago
Well aren't we using an awfully broad brush today. "much much more worse" perhaps your side could use a different spokesman.
scooped13 1 year ago
Argumentum "Eglishtum" : the fallacy of losers
balamanti2 1 year ago
Orly?
DarkRoseST 1 year ago
Abortion is against God, period.
2010JesusSaves 2 years ago 2
I'm not quite sure what she means by "both sides" I assume she means evolution vs the bible account, but if you decide to go down the "non science" route you would have to include Ainu, Hmong, Mansi, Orok, Jainism, Bahá'í, Bakuba,Yoruba among many, many others, because you can't just assume it's "science vs YOUR belief" if you teach one creation myth with no actual evidence you must treat all non evidence based beliefs as well, you have no choice, even scientology has a claim in that case
itsChristonabike 2 years ago
Cindy is a husband stealing trollup!!
redbonegal 2 years ago
Thank god this ding-dong and her husband are not in the white house.
1tahoesky 2 years ago
If you want both sides taught read your bible passages to your kids at home. We don't want your 10,000 year old earth theory in our public schools without evidence.
TheNorthFuck 2 years ago
"Teach both sides" = false dichotomy
Thatonedude917 2 years ago
Perhaps McCain should have picked his wife as VP-
Although I don't agree with a thing she says, at least she doesn't sound like a complete moron when she speaks.
brt929 2 years ago 4
Mercuryvegetable; "Evolution is so well supported that in "schools", you can't pass Biology without a thorough understanding of it."
I can personally testify, this isn't true for Texas... it's even the versa...
baktun12345 2 years ago
Wow, that sucks! Is it one of those early biology classes you take when your 14-15 years old that's all about the human body, or is the kind of biology class that talks about biomolecules, the cell, ecology, history of life? Because I mean that one.
I don't know how it is in the States, but in Quebec when you take Science, you really have to understand evolution. It's fundamental to the course; I can't imagine a comprehensive biology course without evolution :/
Mercuryvegetable 2 years ago 2
Out here in the states,Evolution is almost a swear word in classrooms.Different teachers teach differently,and there are only a few chapters in most High school Biology textbooks that deal with Evolution.
I actually had to explain a great deal about gene deletion, addition, and substitution, as well as the "difference" between "Macro" and "Micro"evolution,as well as Abiogenesis(all of which I studied on my own) to a friend, since his teacher just didn't understand it and couldn't teach it well.
Onirayushizobura 2 years ago