'It's not about religion it's about a relationship with god.'
This god is inherently tied to the religion that propagates the god concept.
Claiming to know a god concept apart from the organization behind that concept is saying that somehow you can have better or more complete knowledge of the god.
Except your god is the one that impregnated a virgin to give birth to himself in order to sacrifice himself to provide a loophole for a rule that he created.
@2:30 that BS, no true scottsman fallacy, Their holy book instructs them to kill infidels and you say they are not true Muslims because they follow what it says? Do you think do think Aquinas , Augustine, and Martin Luther were not Christians?
@0:56 How does that guy know what hes taking about, The guy admits be believe in christianity the dogmas of Faith and Sin, And TAA point this outs. All religions dont say we should be slaves Jesus does, Not all religions say we should follow every rule in a book jesus does...
You're for free speech, yet you think he needs to shut up? I found what he said to be completely true, and no fancy camera tricks and an illogical poem will change my mind.
@blind999 "I found what he said to be completely true"
Except TAA did make a logic error with his Coke/soda argument, which was a major portion of his bebunking. And the basic argument TAA had was based on who the video's audience was. Once he got that wrong, he lost the focus... and that was at the beginning of the video.
@bsabruzzo I'm not sure the basic argument he had was based on the audience.. He presented evidence, and pointed out the fallacies of the guy's argument, The reason he mentioned the audience quite often is because of their reaction to the video. It's not like the entire video was him bashing on the audience, and you can see that if you watch the video. Also, can you please show the logical error in the soda part? BTW: The whole part lasted 1 minute, what the hell are you talking about?
@blind999 "I'm not sure the basic argument he had was based on the audience" The original video was directed to chrstians, not to "atheist", muslims or anybody else. Becaise of that, there was no need to prove the existence of the christian God or the correctness of the faith. So, when TAA uses any argument outside that sphere and debunks it, he has based his argument on a falacy of his own making. You can see this throughout the responce video where we mocks the belief in God.
@bsabruzzo I'm sorry, I really don't see where you are getting this from. The only time I can see where he really does speak about the audience is the first 10 seconds. The rest is just debunking and arguing. Also, I'll include my answer to the soda/cola in this comment. You say that he compares Jesus being created by God but religion by man to be the basis of his soda/cola argument. Well, it's not. He's comparing it to when the guy says "one's the cure, while the other is the infection" etc.
@blind999 "The only time I can see where he really does speak about the audience is the first 10 seconds."
Nowhere in the video does TAA say "I see how this fits into the christian faith and belief system". From word 1 he's against the the message because he isn't in the target audience. Up to 0:30 he talks about the viewers, which isn't the same as the audience. At 0:45 he says "Jesus ... as the Bible described him", implying that there was another way. The audience sees no other way
@blind999 Other places that shows TAA is not the target audience, thus is arguing from "ignoranes" of the subject (not bad logic, per sey, just as if he wanted a romantic comedy out of :Kittle Red Riding Hood"):
@blind999 "my answer to the soda/cola in this comment"
TAA equates Coke to Jesus and soda to religion ("Soda sucks, Coke is awesome"). In fact the original video would make soda the entire faith of christianity and Coke a single religion under that faith (see my prev. comments).
It's the equivcating of the extended metaphor.
You can have faith in the basics of christianity and not adhere to the various religions that use is as their foundation.
@blind999 "can you please show the logical error in the soda part"
If I remember correctly, TAA says the statements used in the original video, Jesus was created by God, but religion was created by man, is like saying "there's Coke and then there's soda". This isn't the same at all. In fact the God part would be the soda, Cola would be Jesus and the Coke would be Catholics, Pepsi would be Baptists, RC would be Mormons, Seltzer Jews, 7Up Muslims, etc.
@blind999 "BTW: The whole part lasted 1 minute, what the hell are you talking about?"
TAA focused on two things:
1) God and the Bible aren't real, so the original video is wrong and
2) The explanations sounded like marketing slogans
If you remove the rant about "WTF are you saying... God doesn't exist" parts (the audience flaw), you are left with the cocke rant, which TAA got backwards because he has a poor understanding of the difference between the Faith and the Religion.
@bsabruzzo Again, I don't see where you are seeing that he focuses on those 2 things. His video is 14 minutes long. 1 minute of that is the marketing slogan part, the other 13 is mostly debunking, with maybe a total of 1 minute of mocking Jesus/Religion.
Please, for the sake of our little discussion, reference where he talks nonstop about God not being real, so I could understand you better. (Also, why did your comment get put as spam?)
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DjSaltyDog 3 weeks ago
You believe in gawd while having a soviet union / communist flag on your wall?
kjb86 1 month ago
'It's not about religion it's about a relationship with god.'
This god is inherently tied to the religion that propagates the god concept.
Claiming to know a god concept apart from the organization behind that concept is saying that somehow you can have better or more complete knowledge of the god.
Except your god is the one that impregnated a virgin to give birth to himself in order to sacrifice himself to provide a loophole for a rule that he created.
Deism maybe? Personal god or whatever.
unkledanbot 1 month ago
@2:30 that BS, no true scottsman fallacy, Their holy book instructs them to kill infidels and you say they are not true Muslims because they follow what it says? Do you think do think Aquinas , Augustine, and Martin Luther were not Christians?
Greathiway 1 month ago
@0:56 How does that guy know what hes taking about, The guy admits be believe in christianity the dogmas of Faith and Sin, And TAA point this outs. All religions dont say we should be slaves Jesus does, Not all religions say we should follow every rule in a book jesus does...
Greathiway 1 month ago
You're for free speech, yet you think he needs to shut up? I found what he said to be completely true, and no fancy camera tricks and an illogical poem will change my mind.
blind999 1 month ago
@blind999 "I found what he said to be completely true"
Except TAA did make a logic error with his Coke/soda argument, which was a major portion of his bebunking. And the basic argument TAA had was based on who the video's audience was. Once he got that wrong, he lost the focus... and that was at the beginning of the video.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@bsabruzzo I'm not sure the basic argument he had was based on the audience.. He presented evidence, and pointed out the fallacies of the guy's argument, The reason he mentioned the audience quite often is because of their reaction to the video. It's not like the entire video was him bashing on the audience, and you can see that if you watch the video. Also, can you please show the logical error in the soda part? BTW: The whole part lasted 1 minute, what the hell are you talking about?
blind999 1 month ago
@blind999 "I'm not sure the basic argument he had was based on the audience" The original video was directed to chrstians, not to "atheist", muslims or anybody else. Becaise of that, there was no need to prove the existence of the christian God or the correctness of the faith. So, when TAA uses any argument outside that sphere and debunks it, he has based his argument on a falacy of his own making. You can see this throughout the responce video where we mocks the belief in God.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@bsabruzzo I'm sorry, I really don't see where you are getting this from. The only time I can see where he really does speak about the audience is the first 10 seconds. The rest is just debunking and arguing. Also, I'll include my answer to the soda/cola in this comment. You say that he compares Jesus being created by God but religion by man to be the basis of his soda/cola argument. Well, it's not. He's comparing it to when the guy says "one's the cure, while the other is the infection" etc.
blind999 1 month ago
@blind999 "The only time I can see where he really does speak about the audience is the first 10 seconds."
Nowhere in the video does TAA say "I see how this fits into the christian faith and belief system". From word 1 he's against the the message because he isn't in the target audience. Up to 0:30 he talks about the viewers, which isn't the same as the audience. At 0:45 he says "Jesus ... as the Bible described him", implying that there was another way. The audience sees no other way
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@blind999 Other places that shows TAA is not the target audience, thus is arguing from "ignoranes" of the subject (not bad logic, per sey, just as if he wanted a romantic comedy out of :Kittle Red Riding Hood"):
1:20 "Let's say I [got on YouTube and]..."
4:28 "what the -- is sin"
7:12 - 7:37 "nothing you do as an indivual matters"
7:45 -
I can go on. But the twisting of the ctual faith shows by action TAA is atacing the audience: christians. If you can't use the "facts", you adhom.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@blind999 "my answer to the soda/cola in this comment"
TAA equates Coke to Jesus and soda to religion ("Soda sucks, Coke is awesome"). In fact the original video would make soda the entire faith of christianity and Coke a single religion under that faith (see my prev. comments).
It's the equivcating of the extended metaphor.
You can have faith in the basics of christianity and not adhere to the various religions that use is as their foundation.
And TAA doesn't grasp the faith.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@blind999 "can you please show the logical error in the soda part"
If I remember correctly, TAA says the statements used in the original video, Jesus was created by God, but religion was created by man, is like saying "there's Coke and then there's soda". This isn't the same at all. In fact the God part would be the soda, Cola would be Jesus and the Coke would be Catholics, Pepsi would be Baptists, RC would be Mormons, Seltzer Jews, 7Up Muslims, etc.
TAA got that backwards.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
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@blind999 "BTW: The whole part lasted 1 minute, what the hell are you talking about?"
TAA focused on two things:
1) God and the Bible aren't real, so the original video is wrong and
2) The explanations sounded like marketing slogans
If you remove the rant about "WTF are you saying... God doesn't exist" parts (the audience flaw), you are left with the cocke rant, which TAA got backwards because he has a poor understanding of the difference between the Faith and the Religion.
bsabruzzo 1 month ago
@bsabruzzo Again, I don't see where you are seeing that he focuses on those 2 things. His video is 14 minutes long. 1 minute of that is the marketing slogan part, the other 13 is mostly debunking, with maybe a total of 1 minute of mocking Jesus/Religion.
Please, for the sake of our little discussion, reference where he talks nonstop about God not being real, so I could understand you better. (Also, why did your comment get put as spam?)
blind999 1 month ago