HD Seihou Extra: VIVIT vs. Touhou Main Characters Marisa and Reimu

[CritzVolT]

Oh... wow ._.

I'm speechless. Congratulations for doing it. And how lucky that Sanae didn't show up as a playable character back then :V.

[0ctopusComp1etely]

...Is Reimu holding a wrench?

[FishOnGround]

That Reimu is secetly Nue *g*

[Ultima64]

@FishOnGround Dude, everyone in touhou is nue

she just disguises into different people to fool you

[Felipehc188]

How do you unlock the Extra Stage? Beating Normal or harder without continuing?

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

@Felipehc188 Huh, if I remember correctly, you can even use continues in Seihou, but I might be mistaken.

[monsterhunter891]

The name of the song in the battle with Reimu is "Dichromatic Lotus Butterfly ~ Ancients"

[PokeNaruBleach]

This game makes Touhou look easy.

[TARDISES]

Also, the poitn where Reimu started busting otu her orbs remidned me of Imperishable Night (she does it there, too. You can destroy them if you want, but it won't do much good. Focusing means they can't hurt you anyway.)

[TARDISES]

...This is noteworthy only becasue FIRST APPEARANCE OF WINDOWS DESIGNS. (Yes, BEFORE EoSD.)

[SOSdanChoreBoy]

6:30 OH MY GOT HER SHRINE MAIDEN ARMPITS ARE FOUNTAINS OF BULLETS

[zandermanandcassymom]

LOVE Reimu's theme here.

[mnpoi147369]

i dont know how to make full screen to windows mode...?

please tell me

[tvrockz]

4:03 That pose reminds me of Koishi

[konataakira]

prefiero the witches ball magus en version wav, no en midi

[Pimpzilla300]

Love that Reimus' Seihou theme came back as in Hisou Tensokou even catchier.

[Bowserian]

Uh, is it supposed to play THIS fast? It played way slower when I did it....

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

@Bowserian Afraid it was lagging then, I've played this on quite a few computers now - this is the correct speed.

[Ultima64]

0:26 holy shit

[MegaKnuckles777]

...Yeah, and I complain that I'm having a tough time in EoSD. Yep. >_>;

I quite enjoyed this show, and it's also the first Seihou video I see. Thank you, Penguin! ^_^

[Carkam3l]

graze bitch, graze!

[whendeathdies]

hmmm so this is like an older version of touhou then seein how the graphics are but this looks much harder to the point where all the movements seem more memorized and lacks the creativity that touhou shows

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

@whendeathdies ...Pretty much. It's a game for masochists.

[ForeMoster]

@SadisticPenguinOfAND

Vivit iz MASOCHIST ? No wonder she spread hearts when she die

:D

[newcomer101101]

Y did marisa and reimu just suddenly attacked -_-

[wisefelipe]

@newcomer101101

3/4 of Touhou bosses suddenly attack, here it is actually VIKI who is attacking, as she went to Gensokyo to get the Holy Grail by her master's orders. I don't know why would she think Reimu had it though..

After the battle, Reimu grants VIKI a wish, and she asks for the Holy Grail.

Reimu: The what? (something like that)

VIKI then proceeds to explain about the whole connection to Christ thing etc, to which Reimu answers: "Who is Christ?"

VIKI starts crying and it's game end.

[newcomer101101]

@wisefelipe why did she attack marisa though? was she in the way or something? o.o

[wisefelipe]

@newcomer101101

Not much of a reason, she seems to have that Reimu thing of shooting people just cause they are there, in a way it's kind of her master's fault, who sends her to ultra top-secret missions without telling her anything, so she goes out to buy some bread and ends up fighting in a Airplane Carrier. I think i would be a little on edge too.

[Nazuiko]

I just realized those things floating around Marisa resemble the Non-directional Laser. Also, those bubbles she shoots were TOTALLY stolen from Remilia. *sigh* Marisa, cut it out, will ya. Also, I think Reimu borrowed some Yukari at 5:24

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

@Nazuiko Interestingly though, this game came out before EoSD or PCB.

[Pretztailfan95]

@SadisticPenguinOfAND Heh heh, so it's more like Yukari and Remilia stole from these two~ XD

But..did you notice that there is a pattern between IN and LLS? LLS is the fourth game in the series, and IN is the eighth, and in both games you encounter either Reimu or Marisa depending on who you play as, and they're themes remain the same. Or at least for Reimu it does...

[TARDISES]

@SadisticPenguinOfAND

yeah, those orbs he mentions from Marisa are actually from SoEW (her first appearance).

[danesp101]

@SadisticPenguinOfAND But Seihou takes place in the future so Marisa is a Youkai along with Reimu because it's in the future and they are still stolen.

[dadadadwi]

@Nazuiko she uses them in all the old touhou games.

They're orery's suns.

[watafug]

Looks even harder than touhou

[Clockorkzone]

Good that some of the noises aren't there, the laser SE kills your ears.

Anyway, this looks... hard. (Warning: severe understatement)

[RiskOfSuffocation]

as you couldn't use Fraps, what did you use to record?

I also sometimes have problems recording with fraps, because it somehow doesn't work with some games, this looks like a possible way to record those...

[SsLuffy7]

i luv Reimu

[sssssz]

You asploded Marisa and Reimu ;_;

[Lishy1]

Flandre stole marisa's wings

[TARDISES]

@Lishy1

No, Marisa only borrowed wings.

(why olny borrowed? well, when getting something from Flandre, borrowing is pretty much the only option. That or explosion by kyuu~)

[princessZelda089]

@Lishy1

Patchy created Flan's wings. Perhaps Marisa "borrowed" them, and then got beaten up so Flandre could have them back.

[ooAzinthoo]

Oh, and it should be noted that Touhou and Seihou love to borrow/steal bullet patterns from each other even to this day. Notice that the midboss' attack at 1:05 is basically Orin's Blazing Wheel spellcard on steroids.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Well, IN actually contains a lot of stuff that was referential to the older games on purpose. More obviously than some of the cards here, Marisa and Reimu's themes in IN are arrangements of their PC-98 themes.

The Okuu's supergraze patterns were actually both used before. A more complex version of the first non-spell was used by Yuka back in LLS. You can see it also in PoFV. ZUN's attacks almost all have some unique element, but there's been so many games some overlap is inevitable.

[ShimafromMS]

Excellent music.

Anyone notice that the pattern at 4:04 looks similar to one used by a certain nuclear crow?

[t3chman293]

it also reminds be of one used by a certain lunar princess

[argentumsprisma759]

Really? It reminds me of a certain three-eyed psychopath.

[wooterz]

Damn Reimu's PISSED.

[ooAzinthoo]

lol 3:05

That pattern is so bullshit it makes Scarlet Meister look like Icicle Fall Easy.

But seriously, Great job, this is one hell of a stage.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Yeah, that attack and Reimu's spam at 4:40 aren't even close to fair. With Marisa though since her attacks are chosen at random I've had plenty of runs where she just spams that attack...

Wait, aren't you the guy who just 1CC'd lunatic? orz

[ooAzinthoo]

Errr, yeah, though this game's Lunatic isn't that bad. Not any worse than a Touhou Lunatic anyway.

I managed to beat this stage only once, and ever since then it just keeps screwing me over. It's way more random than Touhou extra stages.

[7TC7]

So you say fraps didn't work to record this... What did you use? I'm usually sticking with fraps and hypercam for recordings, but this game ... dunno how to record it.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

I used Growler Guncam.

[7TC7]

Well, I've never heard of that and will try it out.

One last question, though: Is it just good for Shuu Sou Gyokou or is it good enough for other games with better grafiks as well?

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

It's not bad, just unusable for me with the sound problems.

[Ionescel]

It looks like Samidare Extra Stage @@

No no ... I mean

Samidare's Extra Stage looks like this one!!

(I know Samidare's stage settings are based on Touhou / Seihou games)

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Argh, I have to play that game too someday.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

.....and now I have! =P Posted the extra stage as a video response.

[SHOOTANGAEMS]

Dude, you should totally record a playthrough of Concealed the Conclusion. Not only is Reimu almost as hard there as she is here (at least that's what it looks like. I always run out of time on White Reimu :< ), but it also features one of the most infuriating mandatory collectable systems ever.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

I might just do that. I'm currently trying to get my pacifist IN Mokou run done which any time now will be a victory, but I don't have a run in mind for after that. I'll take a look.

[Timefluxx]

That'd be really cool if you did do a CtC run!

The only version of Reimu i've seen on youtube is only on easy mode, I'm sure you could do much better than that. =)

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Just got my IN pacifist run! I'm running a free space defrag hoping that will get it so fraps won't crap out since the run is looooooong.

Getting CtC as I'm writing this. It'll probably take a while to practice up if it's as hard as you guys make it sound though.

[Timefluxx]

Nice, can't wait to see that.

I wouldn't say CtC is any harder than most Touhou games, then again, I haven't played it.

One of these days I'll get it working.

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

4th try normal clear, first time as MarisaC. Kind of weird having different stages for every shot type. I'm apparently good at grazing, I had eight and a half minutes of time for White Reimu =P

Anything in particular you want to see from CtC?

[Timefluxx]

I'd like to see any scenario and someone playing against White Reimu on a decent difficulty.

Maybe the extra or phantasm stage too.

I'd like to see Reimu's elusive spellcard "Hakurei Game" too... =)

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Just got a hard clear, going to probably be a day before I post it up though.

Going to go get my ass handed to me on Extra now! =D

[Timefluxx]

Yay! Have fun with Suika.

She looks pretty fun.

*shakes fist at CtC's inability to work on a lot of computers*

[Ionescel]

I think CtC is more difficult than original Touhou Series (EoSD included)

in terms of Normal gameplay

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

I think the hardest part of CtC is the fact that there are very few available extends. The other games have a larger room for error.

[nintendonut888]

*grumble grumble*

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Got the stage figured out yet? =D

[nintendonut888]

*grumble grumble* :(

Maybe if I actually start studying replays and begin hating my life.

[Timefluxx]

Man this looks hard...why does Marisa have wings?

Excellent job, you must have a lot of patience, =)

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Thanks!

Yeah, this one is a bit odd... It came out before EoSD so it pretty much gets ignored as a PC-98 side-story, so I have absolutely no idea what they're saying. (Why does Marisa have wings? Why is Reimu an unstoppable killing machine?)

This one took about a week of practice to be able to beat, it is definitely harder than Touhou extra stages.

[Timefluxx]

Yeah, I'd never be able to play this game.

I'm still stuck on Flandre...

By the way, you got me hooked on Marisa and Reimu's songs from this game. =D

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

I've yet to not get hooked on some piece of Touhou music whenever I play a new game =D This music here is absolutely amazing for MIDI.

I can sympathize about Flandre, I've spent almost half my time playing Touhou stuck on either trying to beat her or then trying to no-death her. She was one of the few bosses I've beat in Touhou where I mainly just felt relieved that it was done.

[Timefluxx]

Yeah, I'll be relieved once I get her out of the way too.

Next on my hit list is Mokou. =D

I'll probably never even unlock Yukari...

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

A lot of people disagree with me, but I personally think Flandre is the hardest extra.

In terms of before MoF, I'd say Flandre > Yukari > Mokou = Ran. I played Suwako and Koishi too much later to really compare.

[MetaSieg]

Holy Frick and I thought Touhou was hard, this is just mean.

[EchoeyEchoes]

Hmm... I've never seen a video of anyone doing the Seihou series before... though I haven't looked either =P

[EchoeyEchoes]

Oh... also... you DO know that dBu arranged Marisa's theme here right? In Nostalgic Requiem?

Just thought I'd say that in case for some reason you didn't know...

And also... nicely done ^^

[SadisticPenguinOfAND]

Thanks! I think you don't see many people doing it because it's way more obscure and it's difficulty is hard to point of being unfair. No deathbombing, impassable walls... Certainly harder than Touhou, many times for the wrong reasons.

Oh man, you're right on the dBu remix. Usually when I'm practicing up on a stage I listen to a lot of remixes from it, and I knew I'd heard that theme somewhere.

When I actually started looking I was practically tripping over remixes of Reimu's theme though.

[EchoeyEchoes]

No problem ^^

And yeah... I've developed an ear for what song remixes what... most of the time =P