It happens once and a while lol. I heard USA may use this to replace the F16? When I say 'may' I mean their thinking about it. That would really help us to develop the jet further.
Yes...this is only being talked about at the moment and I believe the USA has brought a couple for testing purposes. I don't see why not though...USA can afford it and I think a mix is better.
During an exercise with the Eurofighter vs raptor, the Eurofighter just play'ed with the raptor and after 5 attemp's the raptors cancelled the exercise. Just so you know:P
The F-22 has taken 20+ years to develop and much much more money than the Typhoon,but with that the Raptor is not that MUCH better than the Eurofighter! You know a lot of airplanes and you know that in the air the lighter you are the better,and we all know which of the 2 planes is ligther! Also the Eurof.has been developed by the best scientists from Europe and don't tell me that USA has them all!
Dude most fights take place Beyond Visual Range. You can be as light as you want. AMRAAM coming at you at Mach 3 doesnt give you much time to "dance" around in the air. Raptor can see the Typhoon. Typhoon cannot. Theres a reason why the Raptor is a 5th gen fighter where as the Typhoon is gen 4.5.
Ive never heard of it because that information has not been published NO WHERE. That doesnt even qualify for a urban legend. And even if that was true, that fight most likely would of have taken place WVR. Bear in mind im not saying the Euro fighter CANT get a lock on the Raptor BVR. The Raptor is just better equipt to do so. Afterall the Euro fighter was built after the Raptor. Technology evolves very fast now days. It complicated...
My bad in one area though. Earlier i said Euro fighter cannot get a lock on. It can it would just be a faint contact/hard to acquire etc. We are reaching a stage of the conversation where you would have to know intimate details about the workings of the Radars involved to comment accuratly. I wish i was a engineer at Raytheon... Or BAE for that matter.
In order for a F-22 to get a lock on they actually need to be able to lock-on, the eurofighter counters most of those things. But like i said there's certain planes for certain jobs, put them together and you have a serious amount of air supremacy :) Eurofighters + F-22 raptors = the WAAAAUW factor!
I agree. Another matter; how many Eurofighters including new orders are out there vs. the Raptor force of 130+? Bare in mind the Raptor isnt allowed to sold to foreign nations. Eurofighter seems to have a brighter future. Different tranches and further divided by Blocks where as there is only 1 Raptor. MBDA ramjet missiles being added, Raptor will only have Aim-9x and AMRAAM D capability. Bottom line its very versitile just the F-16 which is so popular.
I think you are over looking the fact American aircraft use data links from E3s in the theater of operation....It does not even need to turn their radar on....
Well said, although i will never claim the F-22 to be inferior. I will say that that the eurofighter is just an amazing aircraft capable of so much more yet the raptor is capable of the same only in a different context... .Beautiful planes the both of them! Can you imagine a squadron of eurofighters and raptors? Think about it :)
I think that the lighter Typhoon can beat the Raptor,but that's my opinion! Discovery Channel don't say always all of the story,don't understand me wrong I am a fan of Disc.Channel, but i don't think that they will say that the newest fighter in the USAF is NOT the best in the world! Isn't that so?
The F-22 is not invisible,it shows on the radar,but it is really small,but i am sure that the Typhoon radar can see the Raptor! And in a dogfight the Eurofighter will beat the F-22,because it more maneuverabel!
The F-22 weapons capacity is more than limited...any F-16 is more multirole than the F-22. I dont know the F-22 attacking capacities, but if you want to shoot down a plane with air-to-air on long distance you need a radar. Means you lock on and then you shine like a christmas tree. the lower the distance is the higher the risk to be seen. Stealth is an advantage but it is not the godmode. as you could see when a Nighthawk was shot down
Comparing an Miltirole airplane and an air superiority fighter? first mistake...2nd mistake...no one really knows how effective the radars of any plane is. Both are prolly the best ones available also the defense systems...the F-22's big disadvantage is the price. The typhoon can keep up easily with modern air planes and fulfill it's role. Kicking 2 F-15's ass in a real dogfight speaks for itself. I'd prefer the E/F because it is cheaper and more flexible
but many countries are getting stealth planes like the f-35, and there is no way in hell the typhoon can go up against a stealth plane. we are comparing air superiority and multirole to simply see who would shoot the other down, with the answer being the f-22 shooting down the typhoon. and the f-22 has plenty of multirole capability.
i don't care if the translation is wrong, go blame google translate, not me.the f-22 can shoot down the typhoon from 130 miles away and the typhoon has no clue were the f-22 is. even if it goes wvr, the f-22 has an all-around multi-spectral missile warning system that doubles as an irst system. the f-22 also has thrust vectoring. the typhoon irst system only looks forwards. f-22 infrared/ultraviolet search and track system looks everywhere, not just in front of them.
Actually there is absolutely no evidence that F-22 won...the ONLY publicly released reports said that Typhoon won decisively at all ranges...and they DID say that the USAF refused to play the next day. RAF personnel were actually told to stop talking about it by their superiors because the USAF was embarassed and getting annoyed...
Actually the 241-0 kill ratio was for one exercise...against US planes....with US pilots....you think they're going to let their new pride and joy look like a turkey?
i know u are talking about the us "making war all the time" and it is actually good we don't have this plane, because it is a piece of shit. f-22 will kick its ass out of the sky.
F-22 is irrelevant....it was designed to fight a war that's no longer on the horizon....it's role is out-dated. F-35 is the more important next-gen fighter in the USAF.
its role is not outdated. it is an air superiority fighter also with multirole capability. please shut the fuck up if u don't have a clue what you are saying.
Hardly even worth calling a multi-role capability...Typhoon is a FAR superior multi-role plane. F-22 was DESIGNED to fight the Russians in a "Cold War gone Hot" scenario...read about it's development, moron.
the f-22 has plenty of multirole capability. if the typhoon is so damn good, then why the fuck are you buying the f-35? and you don't even have an actual bomber, just smaller strike aircraft.
F-35 is for a different purpose...we've always had several different strike planes at one time (Harrier/Jaguar/Tornado GR.1/4/4A) Typhoon can carry a bigger payload than F-35 for a start...oh, and the US is getting it too...so I could say the same about F-22...however, I can assure you that Typhoon is a better strike plan than F-22 is. BTW heavy bombers are so outdated now...
it doesn't even matter what the typhoon's multirole capabilities are. it will be knocked out of the sky before it can get anywhere near us. if it used a bomb it would have to be extremely close to us, and would definitely be shot down by raptors. if it launched a cruise missile the missile would be shot down even more easily than the typhoon.
there is no way in hell that it could have a smaller rcs than the f-22. storm shadow is simply reduced rcs. the storm shadow, like the typhoon, is designed to reduce the head-on radar signature. and if u want to get near us, u have to go through the SBX radar, which can track objects smaller than a baseball more than 3000 miles away.
and we have completely stealth cruise missiles. and we don't mess around with choosing a warhead. the storm shadow warhead is a puny 990 pounds, and the AGM-129 ACM uses a W-80-1 Thermonuclear warhead with a yield of 150 Kilotons.
lol first off the f-22 is far faster and in terms of avionics it's capabilities reach much farther than the typhoon. f-22 is used for stealth missions only. F/A-18 superhornets are one of the best planes in the world and surely a match for the eurofighter
LOL F-22 is NOT far faster than Typhoon, F-22 is NOT used for "stealth missions" (whatever the fuck those are) only...and Super Hornet would have about the same chance against a Typhoon as it did against F-22...heck, in exercises Rafale dominated Super Hornet, and Rafale isn't a patch on Typhoon!
f-22 is much faster. typhoon supercruise is mach 1.2 at best. f-22 supercruise is mach 1.8. f-22 stores weapons internally so there is much less drag, resulting in better maneuverability and much greater speed. and better range to.
thrust vectoring can be used at high speeds, it is just more important at very slow speeds where the control surfaces are useless. no reason it can't be used a mach 2
The F-22's TVC is used for trim at supersonic speeds, and not directly for manoeuvring.
"it is just more important at very slow speeds where the control surfaces are useless."
Yes, which is why the F-22 has better control manoeuvrability at extremely low speeds, but the Typhoon which lacks TVC still has greater supersonic manoeuvrability.
dogfights take place at about 400 miles per hour. not very fast. even ww2 planes can get to 400 miles per hour. f-22 is not lame when it is slow, that is when it kicks ur ass even harder. typhoon radar is much worse than f-22 radar and your radar doesn't even matter. f-22's stealth makes your precious little radar useless. hahaha
typhoon can go mach 2, but not for long. afterburner uses all the fuel very fast, and typhoon supercruise is only mach 1.2. f-22 supercruise is mach 1.8. to use irst systems u have to be in dogfight range. f-22 can successfully launch a missile while doing maneuvers that other planes haven't ever done while launching a missile.
PIRATE doesn't have to be in dogfighting range...I don't give a toss what maneuvers F-22 can do while launching a missile...the Typhoon pilot only has to turn his head, target the cockpit and send an ASRAAM down the F-22 jock's throat...
towed decoys will show up as two seperate objects on f-22s radar. pilot selects which one (they know the one in front is the real plane) and fire a missile at it. a towed decoy is not as effective as u think.
The towed decoy would be deployed after missile launch...so the F-22's radar wouldn't come into it....it would deploy when the incoming missile was detected.
i'd like to see it launch a decoy before an aim-120 gets to u, that would be amazing. f-22 can guide missile with passive radar to maintain stealth, or they point in ur direction and fire. missile doesn't turn on active radar until its too late. not enough time for u to do anything.
F-22 doesn't need to guide the missile...it's an active homer... Missile would be detected and evaded...sorry to disappoint you but Typhoon has one of the best defence suites of any fighter.
it can be guided by the f-22 using passive radar dumbass. u just don't realize that f-22 can shoot u down from over 150 miles away. to long of a distance for your beloved pirate. u wouldn't even know if the f-22 is using active radar because it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second. u might detect one or too bits every 10 minutes or so, but u would get that same amount from other interference.
Meteor will have a longer range than AIM-120D... It doesn't matter that the F-22's radar switches frequencies as the missile won't...Anyway, it's "TWO" you "dumbass".
it doesn't matter if the meteor has a longer range, because the pirate has a very short range. and the only way to target an f-22 is with ir, and ir only works at short range and will not work in bad weather.
"it can be guided by the f-22 using passive radar dumbass."
That assumes the Typhoon is actively emitting using it's own radar to scan for the F-22 in the first place, which is very unlikely when in most situations it will be receiving data from PIRATE, ESM, and off-board sensors via MIDS.
"u just don't realize that f-22 can shoot u down from over 150 miles away."
I think that your massively overestimating the kind of reach the F-22 has, particularly against a Typhoon.
For a start you can halve that 150 miles and you would probably still be overestimating the maximum range of the AIM-120C by some way, and the NEZ will be roughly 1/4 the maximum kinetic range anyway.
That's how close an F-22 would need to get to a Typhoon in reality. ;)
PIRATE has a published range of 80nm, that's greater than even the most optimistic range estimates for the AIM-120C5.
No matter how you look at it an F-22 would have to be well within the detection range of PIRATE to launch a Slammer with any chance of actually hitting a Typhoon.
"... and ir only works at short range and will not work in bad weather."
Well I would hardly classify 80 nautical miles as a short distance, and how much bad whether is there up at 50,000ft where both aircraft are likely to be operating ? ;)
"i'd like to see it launch a decoy before an aim-120 gets to u, that would be amazing."
If it's a head on engagement then the missile launch would probably be detected by PIRATE as soon as the motor starts, or failing that you have 360 deg coverage from the active MAWS located around the fuselage which will detect the missile approaching even once the motor has burnt out and the missile is coasting.
if it is head on then your stupid decoy will be behind u and the missile will still hit you. but in a little bit your radar won't help you at all because we are developing stealth missiles. we already have a stealth cruise missile so it shouldn't be long. and you are also just hoping that the missile will target the decoy. it is designed and programmed to not target decoys, so the decoy will not always work (it will actually rarely work in head on engagements).
"we already have a stealth cruise missile so it shouldn't be long."
We (meaning the UK) also have a stealth cruise missile already (Storm Shadow), but there's a good reason why cruise missiles tend to be either supersonic, or subsonic and stealthy; I'm sure you can work out why. ;)
but ur missile uses a puny BROACH warhead and ours uses the W-80 Variable Yield ThermoNuclear Warhead. your missile is "stealthy" which means reduced rcs. ours is stealth, which means complete stealth.
The only cruise missiles in the USAF/USN inventory that carry the W-80 are the ALCM, ACM and Tomahawk, and of that three only the ACM has a reduced signature.
Storm Shadow IS regarded as a 'Stealth' cruise missile, is far smaller than the ACM, and if anything it appears to have a greater degree of all-aspect shaping features. For example just look at Storm Shadow's flat sides and then look at the ACM which is cylindrical. ;)
everything is designed to do something dipshit. if you deploy the trd before a missile launch, it shows up as a separate target on radar, the pilot chooses which one to lock on to. it is impossible to jam the f-22 radar. it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second.
Seems like it was you having the problem realising that, not me. :P
"if you deploy the trd before a missile launch, it shows up as a separate target on radar, the pilot chooses which one to lock on to."
I never actually mentioned deploying the decoy before the missile is launched ? but it makes little difference anyway as the decoy is designed to deceive the missiles seeker when it goes active in the terminal phase. ;)
actually it is also designed to prevent a plane from getting a lock in the first place. as a "last ditch effort" it tries to make the missile target itself.
"actually it is also designed to prevent a plane from getting a lock in the first place. as a "last ditch effort" it tries to make the missile target itself."
I'm aware that the TRD is also used to emit jamming signals, but you claimed that the decoy itself is easily detectable by radar at long range (which is an assumption) when the 100m that the decoy is separated from the plane by would at that point make almost no difference to the guidance of the missile anyway.
"it is impossible to jam the f-22 radar. it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second."
Any radar including the APG-77 can be jammed, but it would really be pointless to debate how effectively DASS/Praetorian can actually jam the APG-77 as it is a question that is impossible to answer given the lack of available information.
There are systems in service today that are capable of detecting LPI signals, the only question is how effective Typhoon's ESM (which is one of the most advanced systems of it's kind) is against the F-22's APG-77.
Oh and "guess what?"...most heat seeking missiles can't detect the heat friction of a plane travelling through the air...they detect exhaust and systems heat sigs...
So many dumb people on this youtube both planes do the same when it comes to speed and maneuverability, wake up the f22 is invisible to radar,EuroFighter is not, f22 engines run 22% cooler then the EuroFighter making it less likely to be shot down with a heat seeking missile,f22 is quieter,f22 lands on a carrier deck EuroFighter does not,lets see
do i want to be flying into enemy territory in a plane they cannot be see on radar or one that sticks out like a sore thumb on radar,not even close.
Nothing is invisible, nothing. It can be less visible but that´s it. Last time invisible F-117 was taken down by S-125, AA system from 60ties, we won´t know how visible it is to enemy radar till it won´t be tested in battle as against enemy jets so enemy SAM sites.
F-22 is NOT invisible to radar...just hard to see. Typhoon only has an RCS of something like 1m square...so it's hardly a huge blip. Visually Typhoon is smaller, so harder to see with the naked eye, plus BAe is developing optical camo which can be used on Typhoon (look on their official site...), and that'll make it hard to see on radar/IR and impossible with the naked eye. F-22 is NOT quieter...it's still as noisy as any jet...F-22 IS NOT carrier capable...moron.
"and i heard it could only fly because of its computers controll system, it has absolutly no aerodynamic shape"
what you heard is that it is designed to be aerodynamically unstable which means it can perform insane manouvers with ease, however it requires its flight computers to be stable
you sado's this video is about the eurofighter why do u search it up so u can talk about the f22 that has crashed twice better never been in combat.
and yet u say the eurofighter isn't as good as the f22.
how ever we had never lost a eurofighter and it has been in combat several times so stop trying to mug the eurofighter off when really it is far better then a f22.
That said, not everybody associated with the program necessarily agrees with that. ...
"The F-22 is three times the cost, but you would struggle to see any advantage in the cockpit design - the cost is there to maintain stealth," he says. "Typhoon is most likely equivalent, if not better."
BAE Typhoon project test pilot, Mark Bowman.
Source - w w w . flightglobal . com / articles/2007/04/24/213451/eurofighter-typhoon-special-blue-sky-thinking . h t m l
"Hell, even a late-block F-16 with AESA would give it a damn good run for its money."
In your opinion ... ;)
I'm not sure what your basing that opinion on though, given that the Typhoon has proven capable of completely dominating Vipers and other legacy fighters in exercises outnumbered up to 6:1 !
I think your being a little over optimistic to think that just adding an AESA is going to change that.
It wolud be awesome if Canada decided to buy the Eurofighter. Instead on waitng for the F 35 since we are probaly gonna be the last country to get it.
What relation have that Grippen and Eurofighter have certain similarities? This don't imply that is a copy. Do you has seen the airplanes of the II world war, for example? They were very similar, but it doesn't necessarily mean that each one is a copy of the other one. You don't say foolishness, please. All the submarines are seemed also
The Gripen is a great fighter, but I wouldn't get too exited over a single kill when you don't know the ROE or conditions under which the kill was achieved. The F-22 has been splashed in exercises by F-16's for instance, yet aside from those rare instances when the Viper drivers get lucky, the Raptor completely dominates.
all modern fighters are like that including the f-22, which btw is much faster, mach 2.5, supercruise mach 1.8. typhoon tops off at mach 1.8 with afterburners on.
stealthy means it heas a low radar cross section and the typioon is a great plane it has extreme supersonic maneuverability witch the f-22 doesnt have and it has beater compute technology
The Eurofighter has a top speed of Mach 2.0 while the F-22 has a top speed of Mach 2.43
Both have extremely advanced tech and John P. Jumper, one of the few to fly both said "The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the FA-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula 1 car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance."
haha, don't believe those stats for the 22 my friend. I can tell you right now, that is BS. I'm an aerospace engineer, and I can tell you it goes way faster than that, lol.
the eurofighter sucks balls when you think about what the germans and the italians and the spanish and the british could have done with all that money it boggles the mind i mean it isnt even stealth its stealthy ... whatever the fuck that means for fucks sake, the f 22 a is a proper 5th gen aircraft imho
03-2005 USAF Chief of Staff General John P. Jumper, then the only person to have flown both the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Raptor.
The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the F/A-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula 1 car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance.
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you know what donʻt hate the US because we are BEAUTIFUL!!! and we are the BIG DOGS of the world!! hate your government for being WEAK!!! when youʻre the BEST everyones out to take you down, even your best "friend".. this is what i see. typhoon SUCKS so "lets attack the best jet in the world F-22 RAPTOR".. what LOSERS!!!
YO. the raptor is awesome- but there is no need to be hostile about the typhoon just because it is a very good jet too. I'm american, and i love the f-22, but its like Theodore Roosevelt once said, "carry a big stick, and talk quietly, and everyone will hear you just as loud."
The ability of radar is insufficient. It is necessary to install the AESA radar.
HwabyungCorea 1 year ago
The only downside of the Eurofighter is that it needs a longer runway to take off than most fighter jets, in all other aspects it is superior.
Fruitjoke 1 year ago
great watching these when their being test flown
MsFreighttrain 1 year ago
as an american i dont like the looks of the typhoon as much as the f-22 but i must say its a beast at areobatics
ryolay 1 year ago
great song
Moontyy 1 year ago 2
Name of the song?
sbrughi 1 year ago
the best music!!
Moontyy 1 year ago 2
Wow people actually talking sense on this video.
Well, except "turbosmurf".
Just had to be 1 asinine comment lol
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
@OlderG0ds
It happens once and a while lol. I heard USA may use this to replace the F16? When I say 'may' I mean their thinking about it. That would really help us to develop the jet further.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer
Far as I know the F-35 is replacing F-16 (and f-18 , harrier)
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
@OlderG0ds
Yes...this is only being talked about at the moment and I believe the USA has brought a couple for testing purposes. I don't see why not though...USA can afford it and I think a mix is better.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
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During an exercise with the Eurofighter vs raptor, the Eurofighter just play'ed with the raptor and after 5 attemp's the raptors cancelled the exercise. Just so you know:P
turbosmurf 2 years ago
These posts take crooked grammar to a whole new level.
joemne 2 years ago
Sexy plane!
seandadude 2 years ago
Ok that had to be the single most fucking coolest thing I've seen all year so far
shadddey5 2 years ago
The first part of the comment was:
The F-22 has taken 20+ years to develop and much much more money than the Typhoon,but with that the Raptor is not that MUCH better than the Eurofighter! You know a lot of airplanes and you know that in the air the lighter you are the better,and we all know which of the 2 planes is ligther! Also the Eurof.has been developed by the best scientists from Europe and don't tell me that USA has them all!
Pupeto1886 2 years ago
Dude most fights take place Beyond Visual Range. You can be as light as you want. AMRAAM coming at you at Mach 3 doesnt give you much time to "dance" around in the air. Raptor can see the Typhoon. Typhoon cannot. Theres a reason why the Raptor is a 5th gen fighter where as the Typhoon is gen 4.5.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
Situational Awarness is supreme in the Raptor. Its refered to as a mini-Awacs.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
@XR6Charged: I doubt it. The Raptor needs an AWACS in order to unleash its full potential, or be a flying "SHOOT ME!" sign.
Helge129 1 year ago
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You obviously have never heard the test fight near Salt Lake. 2 Eurofighters vs 2 F-22. The Eurofighters won without the F-22 getting a lock-on.
BugattiVeyron135 2 years ago 11
Ive never heard of it because that information has not been published NO WHERE. That doesnt even qualify for a urban legend. And even if that was true, that fight most likely would of have taken place WVR. Bear in mind im not saying the Euro fighter CANT get a lock on the Raptor BVR. The Raptor is just better equipt to do so. Afterall the Euro fighter was built after the Raptor. Technology evolves very fast now days. It complicated...
XR6Charged 2 years ago
My bad in one area though. Earlier i said Euro fighter cannot get a lock on. It can it would just be a faint contact/hard to acquire etc. We are reaching a stage of the conversation where you would have to know intimate details about the workings of the Radars involved to comment accuratly. I wish i was a engineer at Raytheon... Or BAE for that matter.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
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Interesting...do you have this data mate?
29Gixxer 2 years ago
In order for a F-22 to get a lock on they actually need to be able to lock-on, the eurofighter counters most of those things. But like i said there's certain planes for certain jobs, put them together and you have a serious amount of air supremacy :) Eurofighters + F-22 raptors = the WAAAAUW factor!
deww 2 years ago 2
I agree. Another matter; how many Eurofighters including new orders are out there vs. the Raptor force of 130+? Bare in mind the Raptor isnt allowed to sold to foreign nations. Eurofighter seems to have a brighter future. Different tranches and further divided by Blocks where as there is only 1 Raptor. MBDA ramjet missiles being added, Raptor will only have Aim-9x and AMRAAM D capability. Bottom line its very versitile just the F-16 which is so popular.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
I think you are over looking the fact American aircraft use data links from E3s in the theater of operation....It does not even need to turn their radar on....
ClarksonsinUSA 2 years ago
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Well said, although i will never claim the F-22 to be inferior. I will say that that the eurofighter is just an amazing aircraft capable of so much more yet the raptor is capable of the same only in a different context... .Beautiful planes the both of them! Can you imagine a squadron of eurofighters and raptors? Think about it :)
deww 2 years ago 4
nice and correct reply!
hobied62 2 years ago
I think that the lighter Typhoon can beat the Raptor,but that's my opinion! Discovery Channel don't say always all of the story,don't understand me wrong I am a fan of Disc.Channel, but i don't think that they will say that the newest fighter in the USAF is NOT the best in the world! Isn't that so?
Pupeto1886 2 years ago
the music of the video is really nice!!!
Does someone know the artist?
Pupeto1886 2 years ago
Matt Wilkie, Matthew Corbett - Hall Of Flames
dwcsystems 2 years ago
The F-22 is not invisible,it shows on the radar,but it is really small,but i am sure that the Typhoon radar can see the Raptor! And in a dogfight the Eurofighter will beat the F-22,because it more maneuverabel!
Pupeto1886 2 years ago
Don't misunderstand me the F-22 is a hell of a plane and may kick ass, but so does the Typhoon.
Btw. anyone knows sth bout the newest russian radar technologies? I heard some of em may even take on B-2 or F-22s
eisregen1983 2 years ago
The F-22 weapons capacity is more than limited...any F-16 is more multirole than the F-22. I dont know the F-22 attacking capacities, but if you want to shoot down a plane with air-to-air on long distance you need a radar. Means you lock on and then you shine like a christmas tree. the lower the distance is the higher the risk to be seen. Stealth is an advantage but it is not the godmode. as you could see when a Nighthawk was shot down
eisregen1983 2 years ago
Comparing an Miltirole airplane and an air superiority fighter? first mistake...2nd mistake...no one really knows how effective the radars of any plane is. Both are prolly the best ones available also the defense systems...the F-22's big disadvantage is the price. The typhoon can keep up easily with modern air planes and fulfill it's role. Kicking 2 F-15's ass in a real dogfight speaks for itself. I'd prefer the E/F because it is cheaper and more flexible
eisregen1983 2 years ago
but many countries are getting stealth planes like the f-35, and there is no way in hell the typhoon can go up against a stealth plane. we are comparing air superiority and multirole to simply see who would shoot the other down, with the answer being the f-22 shooting down the typhoon. and the f-22 has plenty of multirole capability.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
i don't care if the translation is wrong, go blame google translate, not me.the f-22 can shoot down the typhoon from 130 miles away and the typhoon has no clue were the f-22 is. even if it goes wvr, the f-22 has an all-around multi-spectral missile warning system that doubles as an irst system. the f-22 also has thrust vectoring. the typhoon irst system only looks forwards. f-22 infrared/ultraviolet search and track system looks everywhere, not just in front of them.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
Actually there is absolutely no evidence that F-22 won...the ONLY publicly released reports said that Typhoon won decisively at all ranges...and they DID say that the USAF refused to play the next day. RAF personnel were actually told to stop talking about it by their superiors because the USAF was embarassed and getting annoyed...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
Sorry, "plane"..typo.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
please stop making up this bullshit. during many exercises, the f-22 has gotten 241-0 kill/death ratios.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
Actually the 241-0 kill ratio was for one exercise...against US planes....with US pilots....you think they're going to let their new pride and joy look like a turkey?
samuraikensai 2 years ago
Regenerated? What the fuck are you on about son? This isn't a video game.
Bigrtftw 2 years ago
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WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
if you read the whole thing, you would have seen that i was talking about the red/blue flag exercises.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
but does it come with cruise control, airbags and satellite radio? and a honking stereo system would be nice, too.
Darthbelal 2 years ago
In the age of stealth.......
There are 5th generation aircraft and there are targets...
ClarksonsinUSA 2 years ago
Yo lo volé en el Ace Combat 3 y no me gustó.
Enantiomero24 2 years ago
....ENEMY...sei il numero uno !!! ECCELLENTE VIDEO !!!
ivecoeurotrakker 2 years ago
great piece of technological achievment!
Tommynocka100 2 years ago 2
But too late, thanks politicians.
tokayev 2 years ago
Chile must have these kind planes.
kielstadt 2 years ago
music?
lavatore70 2 years ago
The song on this vid makes me want to make lyrics to it. Hmmm
fromanny 2 years ago 2
"there have been at least four exercises when F-22 has lost. ..."
What about that pilot flying a T-38 trainer that killed a Raptor ? :D -
w w w . youtube . com / watch?v=UXmDj3mFrXQ @ 0.22
Or watch this clip where a USAF Col says that they (F-15, F-16 pilots) make kills on Raptors's in exercises. -
watch?v=6KBmv6HBltM @ 8.00
This should only come as any surprise to those people that think the F-22 is invincible/invisible. ...
MrPikon 2 years ago
Good ones MrPikon! You are, as always, my staunchest ally! :-)
samuraikensai 2 years ago
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WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
this is an AIRPLANE ... :D
honestly... it seems like science-fiction, flying around like a bird... not on a straight way, but turning and spinning around like mad.
Thats some kind of crazy ;-)
Anyway... good thing, that Europe has this plane, and not a country that is making war all the time (i won't mention any :p)
Shadow81989 2 years ago 2
i know u are talking about the us "making war all the time" and it is actually good we don't have this plane, because it is a piece of shit. f-22 will kick its ass out of the sky.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
F-22 is irrelevant....it was designed to fight a war that's no longer on the horizon....it's role is out-dated. F-35 is the more important next-gen fighter in the USAF.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
its role is not outdated. it is an air superiority fighter also with multirole capability. please shut the fuck up if u don't have a clue what you are saying.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
Hardly even worth calling a multi-role capability...Typhoon is a FAR superior multi-role plane. F-22 was DESIGNED to fight the Russians in a "Cold War gone Hot" scenario...read about it's development, moron.
samuraikensai 2 years ago 2
u fuckers still don't get it. f-22 can drop NUCLEAR BOMBS. I THINK THAT IS MULTIROLE.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
And Typhoon can too...and pretty much any weapon in the NATO inventory...oh, and RECONNAISANCE....
samuraikensai 2 years ago
the f-22 is very good at reconnasaince and it can often identify targets FASTER THAN AN AWACS.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
please tell me where this nuke will come from because england doesn't have any bombs, just slbms with nuclear warheads. no bombs for planes.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
the f-22 has plenty of multirole capability. if the typhoon is so damn good, then why the fuck are you buying the f-35? and you don't even have an actual bomber, just smaller strike aircraft.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
F-35 is for a different purpose...we've always had several different strike planes at one time (Harrier/Jaguar/Tornado GR.1/4/4A) Typhoon can carry a bigger payload than F-35 for a start...oh, and the US is getting it too...so I could say the same about F-22...however, I can assure you that Typhoon is a better strike plan than F-22 is. BTW heavy bombers are so outdated now...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
heavy bombers are not outdated. the f-35 is mainly used for aircraft carriers etc. because more are needed and the f-35 is cheaper than the f-22.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
it doesn't even matter what the typhoon's multirole capabilities are. it will be knocked out of the sky before it can get anywhere near us. if it used a bomb it would have to be extremely close to us, and would definitely be shot down by raptors. if it launched a cruise missile the missile would be shot down even more easily than the typhoon.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
I doubt F-22 could shoot down Storm Shadow...it's a stealth missile with a smalled RCS than F-22...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
there is no way in hell that it could have a smaller rcs than the f-22. storm shadow is simply reduced rcs. the storm shadow, like the typhoon, is designed to reduce the head-on radar signature. and if u want to get near us, u have to go through the SBX radar, which can track objects smaller than a baseball more than 3000 miles away.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
and we have completely stealth cruise missiles. and we don't mess around with choosing a warhead. the storm shadow warhead is a puny 990 pounds, and the AGM-129 ACM uses a W-80-1 Thermonuclear warhead with a yield of 150 Kilotons.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
llmao dude ur real smart nd good wif planes lol i mean reallly reaalllyyy wat do u work as?
lmao ya took up nearly all da comment on dis vid :P buhh its ok cause ya no at ur sayin :P
darkspark64 2 years ago
lol first off the f-22 is far faster and in terms of avionics it's capabilities reach much farther than the typhoon. f-22 is used for stealth missions only. F/A-18 superhornets are one of the best planes in the world and surely a match for the eurofighter
ipodkiller6 2 years ago
LOL F-22 is NOT far faster than Typhoon, F-22 is NOT used for "stealth missions" (whatever the fuck those are) only...and Super Hornet would have about the same chance against a Typhoon as it did against F-22...heck, in exercises Rafale dominated Super Hornet, and Rafale isn't a patch on Typhoon!
samuraikensai 2 years ago
f-22 is much faster. typhoon supercruise is mach 1.2 at best. f-22 supercruise is mach 1.8. f-22 stores weapons internally so there is much less drag, resulting in better maneuverability and much greater speed. and better range to.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
I can out of your conversation somehow no results found in the jet, then, is better in dogfight
toffa94 2 years ago
thrust vectoring can be used at high speeds, it is just more important at very slow speeds where the control surfaces are useless. no reason it can't be used a mach 2
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
"thrust vectoring can be used at high speeds"
The F-22's TVC is used for trim at supersonic speeds, and not directly for manoeuvring.
"it is just more important at very slow speeds where the control surfaces are useless."
Yes, which is why the F-22 has better control manoeuvrability at extremely low speeds, but the Typhoon which lacks TVC still has greater supersonic manoeuvrability.
MrPikon 2 years ago
"Due to the delta-canard wings, the EUROFIGHTER has a very good maneuverability.
What should be specially stressed is its capability of flying 9 g maneuvers in the
supersonic range as well."
Lieutenant General Aarne Kreuzinger-Janik,
Commander, German Air Force Command
MrPikon 2 years ago
dogfights take place at about 400 miles per hour. not very fast. even ww2 planes can get to 400 miles per hour. f-22 is not lame when it is slow, that is when it kicks ur ass even harder. typhoon radar is much worse than f-22 radar and your radar doesn't even matter. f-22's stealth makes your precious little radar useless. hahaha
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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F-22 doesn't have helmet mounted sighting...Typhoon will make F-22 eat ASRAAM at dogfighting range...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
typhoon can go mach 2, but not for long. afterburner uses all the fuel very fast, and typhoon supercruise is only mach 1.2. f-22 supercruise is mach 1.8. to use irst systems u have to be in dogfight range. f-22 can successfully launch a missile while doing maneuvers that other planes haven't ever done while launching a missile.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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PIRATE doesn't have to be in dogfighting range...I don't give a toss what maneuvers F-22 can do while launching a missile...the Typhoon pilot only has to turn his head, target the cockpit and send an ASRAAM down the F-22 jock's throat...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
towed decoys will show up as two seperate objects on f-22s radar. pilot selects which one (they know the one in front is the real plane) and fire a missile at it. a towed decoy is not as effective as u think.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
The towed decoy would be deployed after missile launch...so the F-22's radar wouldn't come into it....it would deploy when the incoming missile was detected.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
i'd like to see it launch a decoy before an aim-120 gets to u, that would be amazing. f-22 can guide missile with passive radar to maintain stealth, or they point in ur direction and fire. missile doesn't turn on active radar until its too late. not enough time for u to do anything.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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F-22 doesn't need to guide the missile...it's an active homer... Missile would be detected and evaded...sorry to disappoint you but Typhoon has one of the best defence suites of any fighter.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
it can be guided by the f-22 using passive radar dumbass. u just don't realize that f-22 can shoot u down from over 150 miles away. to long of a distance for your beloved pirate. u wouldn't even know if the f-22 is using active radar because it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second. u might detect one or too bits every 10 minutes or so, but u would get that same amount from other interference.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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Meteor will have a longer range than AIM-120D... It doesn't matter that the F-22's radar switches frequencies as the missile won't...Anyway, it's "TWO" you "dumbass".
samuraikensai 2 years ago
it doesn't matter if the meteor has a longer range, because the pirate has a very short range. and the only way to target an f-22 is with ir, and ir only works at short range and will not work in bad weather.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
"it can be guided by the f-22 using passive radar dumbass."
That assumes the Typhoon is actively emitting using it's own radar to scan for the F-22 in the first place, which is very unlikely when in most situations it will be receiving data from PIRATE, ESM, and off-board sensors via MIDS.
"u just don't realize that f-22 can shoot u down from over 150 miles away."
I think that your massively overestimating the kind of reach the F-22 has, particularly against a Typhoon.
MrPikon 2 years ago
(cont.)
For a start you can halve that 150 miles and you would probably still be overestimating the maximum range of the AIM-120C by some way, and the NEZ will be roughly 1/4 the maximum kinetic range anyway.
That's how close an F-22 would need to get to a Typhoon in reality. ;)
MrPikon 2 years ago
"... pirate has a very short range."
"to long of a distance for your beloved pirate"
PIRATE has a published range of 80nm, that's greater than even the most optimistic range estimates for the AIM-120C5.
No matter how you look at it an F-22 would have to be well within the detection range of PIRATE to launch a Slammer with any chance of actually hitting a Typhoon.
MrPikon 2 years ago
"... and ir only works at short range and will not work in bad weather."
Well I would hardly classify 80 nautical miles as a short distance, and how much bad whether is there up at 50,000ft where both aircraft are likely to be operating ? ;)
MrPikon 2 years ago
"i'd like to see it launch a decoy before an aim-120 gets to u, that would be amazing."
If it's a head on engagement then the missile launch would probably be detected by PIRATE as soon as the motor starts, or failing that you have 360 deg coverage from the active MAWS located around the fuselage which will detect the missile approaching even once the motor has burnt out and the missile is coasting.
Either way plenty of time to release a TRD. :D
MrPikon 2 years ago
if it is head on then your stupid decoy will be behind u and the missile will still hit you. but in a little bit your radar won't help you at all because we are developing stealth missiles. we already have a stealth cruise missile so it shouldn't be long. and you are also just hoping that the missile will target the decoy. it is designed and programmed to not target decoys, so the decoy will not always work (it will actually rarely work in head on engagements).
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
"if it is head on then your stupid decoy will be behind u and the missile will still hit you."
The TRD would only be used in that way as a last resort, in which case the plane would already be cranking away from the missile at 9G anyway.
"but in a little bit your radar won't help you at all because we are developing stealth missiles."
(rollseyes) ...
The F-22 won't even be carrying AIM-9X or AIM-120D until 2012~2013. :D
MrPikon 2 years ago
the missile can do many more g than the pilot. the aim-9x also has thrust vectoring.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
"we already have a stealth cruise missile so it shouldn't be long."
We (meaning the UK) also have a stealth cruise missile already (Storm Shadow), but there's a good reason why cruise missiles tend to be either supersonic, or subsonic and stealthy; I'm sure you can work out why. ;)
MrPikon 2 years ago
but ur missile uses a puny BROACH warhead and ours uses the W-80 Variable Yield ThermoNuclear Warhead. your missile is "stealthy" which means reduced rcs. ours is stealth, which means complete stealth.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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The only cruise missiles in the USAF/USN inventory that carry the W-80 are the ALCM, ACM and Tomahawk, and of that three only the ACM has a reduced signature.
Storm Shadow IS regarded as a 'Stealth' cruise missile, is far smaller than the ACM, and if anything it appears to have a greater degree of all-aspect shaping features. For example just look at Storm Shadow's flat sides and then look at the ACM which is cylindrical. ;)
Looks like a well sharpened pencil with wings. :D
MrPikon 2 years ago
the acm is stealth. its stealth is so good that treaties regulate it to only being launched from non-stealth aircraft.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
"and you are also just hoping that the missile will target the decoy."
Not hoping ... the decoy is designed specifically for that purpose !
"it is designed and programmed to not target decoys"
And Typhoon's TRD (Ariel) is specifically designed to deceive missiles like the AIM-120C. ;)
MrPikon 2 years ago
everything is designed to do something dipshit. if you deploy the trd before a missile launch, it shows up as a separate target on radar, the pilot chooses which one to lock on to. it is impossible to jam the f-22 radar. it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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"everything is designed to do something dipshit."
Seems like it was you having the problem realising that, not me. :P
"if you deploy the trd before a missile launch, it shows up as a separate target on radar, the pilot chooses which one to lock on to."
I never actually mentioned deploying the decoy before the missile is launched ? but it makes little difference anyway as the decoy is designed to deceive the missiles seeker when it goes active in the terminal phase. ;)
MrPikon 2 years ago
actually it is also designed to prevent a plane from getting a lock in the first place. as a "last ditch effort" it tries to make the missile target itself.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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"actually it is also designed to prevent a plane from getting a lock in the first place. as a "last ditch effort" it tries to make the missile target itself."
I'm aware that the TRD is also used to emit jamming signals, but you claimed that the decoy itself is easily detectable by radar at long range (which is an assumption) when the 100m that the decoy is separated from the plane by would at that point make almost no difference to the guidance of the missile anyway.
MrPikon 2 years ago
if the trd is really that good, the f-22 will sneak up behind u and use an aim-9x sidewinder.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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"it is impossible to jam the f-22 radar. it switches frequencies more than 1000 times per second."
Any radar including the APG-77 can be jammed, but it would really be pointless to debate how effectively DASS/Praetorian can actually jam the APG-77 as it is a question that is impossible to answer given the lack of available information.
MrPikon 2 years ago
the point is it is impractical to do so.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
because it switches frequencies so often, it is still possible, just as anything can be jammed, but it is impractical to do so.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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"the point is it is impractical to do so."
There are systems in service today that are capable of detecting LPI signals, the only question is how effective Typhoon's ESM (which is one of the most advanced systems of it's kind) is against the F-22's APG-77.
MrPikon 2 years ago
i'm not saying it is not possible to detect lpi signals, i am saying you can't jam the f-22s's radar, although it is almost impossible to detect it.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
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Oh and "guess what?"...most heat seeking missiles can't detect the heat friction of a plane travelling through the air...they detect exhaust and systems heat sigs...
samuraikensai 2 years ago
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samuraikensai 2 years ago
Italian pilots are the best!
mr0spartan 2 years ago
Raptor Who!!!!!!!!!!!
dudley6623 2 years ago
And what aircraft does Phillipines build?
netlord 2 years ago
So many dumb people on this youtube both planes do the same when it comes to speed and maneuverability, wake up the f22 is invisible to radar,EuroFighter is not, f22 engines run 22% cooler then the EuroFighter making it less likely to be shot down with a heat seeking missile,f22 is quieter,f22 lands on a carrier deck EuroFighter does not,lets see
do i want to be flying into enemy territory in a plane they cannot be see on radar or one that sticks out like a sore thumb on radar,not even close.
pattaya95 2 years ago
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baillie2k9 2 years ago
Nothing is invisible, nothing. It can be less visible but that´s it. Last time invisible F-117 was taken down by S-125, AA system from 60ties, we won´t know how visible it is to enemy radar till it won´t be tested in battle as against enemy jets so enemy SAM sites.
Ntsbhdb 2 years ago
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F-22 is NOT invisible to radar...just hard to see. Typhoon only has an RCS of something like 1m square...so it's hardly a huge blip. Visually Typhoon is smaller, so harder to see with the naked eye, plus BAe is developing optical camo which can be used on Typhoon (look on their official site...), and that'll make it hard to see on radar/IR and impossible with the naked eye. F-22 is NOT quieter...it's still as noisy as any jet...F-22 IS NOT carrier capable...moron.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
we have good enough radar to detect other stealth planes. to our SBX X-Band Radar, nothing (except the f-22 at very long distances) has stealth.
WaffleMaster4 2 years ago
and i heard it could only fly because of its computers controll system, it has absolutly no aerodynamic shape
kingmaxim187 2 years ago
"and i heard it could only fly because of its computers controll system, it has absolutly no aerodynamic shape"
what you heard is that it is designed to be aerodynamically unstable which means it can perform insane manouvers with ease, however it requires its flight computers to be stable
llynellyn 2 years ago
this plane shoots down mig sukoi and most off russias models f16 f18 ..... and many off us fighters i bet
kingmaxim187 2 years ago 3
Thats an awesome plane!!
Hope i could pilot one of those one day!
Ltfredy 2 years ago
That EuroFighter Is So Beatyful <33
anntura 2 years ago
you sado's this video is about the eurofighter why do u search it up so u can talk about the f22 that has crashed twice better never been in combat.
and yet u say the eurofighter isn't as good as the f22.
how ever we had never lost a eurofighter and it has been in combat several times so stop trying to mug the eurofighter off when really it is far better then a f22.
4ever0892 2 years ago
-"how ever we had never lost a eurofighter"
Um, you might want to google EUROFIGHTER CRASH
-"stop trying to mug the eurofighter off when really it is far better then a f22"
Your own EF consortium says the EF is "second only" to the F-22. Hell, even a late-block F-16 with AESA would give it a damn good run for its money.
em745aa 2 years ago
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"Your own EF consortium says the EF is "second only" to the F-22."
What Eurofighter GmbH have generally stated is that the F-22 will better the Typhoon in the role it was designed to specialise in; air-dominance. -
"F-22 will always be the better fighter but Eurofighter will be the better multi role aircraft and will always be cheaper."
David Hamilton, Eurofighter GmbH
MrPikon 2 years ago
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That said, not everybody associated with the program necessarily agrees with that. ...
"The F-22 is three times the cost, but you would struggle to see any advantage in the cockpit design - the cost is there to maintain stealth," he says. "Typhoon is most likely equivalent, if not better."
BAE Typhoon project test pilot, Mark Bowman.
Source - w w w . flightglobal . com / articles/2007/04/24/213451/eurofighter-typhoon-special-blue-sky-thinking . h t m l
MrPikon 2 years ago
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"Hell, even a late-block F-16 with AESA would give it a damn good run for its money."
In your opinion ... ;)
I'm not sure what your basing that opinion on though, given that the Typhoon has proven capable of completely dominating Vipers and other legacy fighters in exercises outnumbered up to 6:1 !
I think your being a little over optimistic to think that just adding an AESA is going to change that.
MrPikon 2 years ago
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stop argueing and read up about the YAMANTAU!
its about the russians preparing for a nuclear war on usa
4ever0892 2 years ago
It wolud be awesome if Canada decided to buy the Eurofighter. Instead on waitng for the F 35 since we are probaly gonna be the last country to get it.
UltitmateCritias400 2 years ago
Eurofighter is a Copy of Swedish Gripen and Viggen.
DennisHaggqvist 2 years ago
What relation have that Grippen and Eurofighter have certain similarities? This don't imply that is a copy. Do you has seen the airplanes of the II world war, for example? They were very similar, but it doesn't necessarily mean that each one is a copy of the other one. You don't say foolishness, please. All the submarines are seemed also
LordBuntaro 2 years ago
In Italy there were a multinational
flying exercise. Gripen was a red force
"means that they shall die" but it
shot down eurofighter. Other similar
like the Alaska, the USA said it have to
look over there early estiments.
F-16 and F-18's didn't survive.
Gripen did.
Gripen and EF has the same manufactutrer in som parts(BAE), and gripen was completed first, and is the first Multirole plane.
DennisHaggqvist 2 years ago
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"... but it shot down eurofighter."
The Gripen is a great fighter, but I wouldn't get too exited over a single kill when you don't know the ROE or conditions under which the kill was achieved. The F-22 has been splashed in exercises by F-16's for instance, yet aside from those rare instances when the Viper drivers get lucky, the Raptor completely dominates.
MrPikon 2 years ago 2
there is nothing Stealth atm ONLY stealthy
if you think the f22 is "STEALTH" you are stupid ...
NinjahuaV2p1 2 years ago
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lavatore70 2 years ago
the manuers that the eurofighter can do are so impressive....because of his aerodinamical instability he can do very impressive manouvers
tobse919 2 years ago
all modern fighters are like that including the f-22, which btw is much faster, mach 2.5, supercruise mach 1.8. typhoon tops off at mach 1.8 with afterburners on.
CoolDojo9000 2 years ago
you can't compare the manouverbility of the f22 with the one of the typhoon
typhoon does the same manouvers as the raptor much faster and he does manouvers that no other plane on the planet has even tryed
tobse919 2 years ago
If you want the best fighter plane you have the F-22, if you want the more manuverable, whatever latest shit the Russians have.
CoolDojo9000 2 years ago
-"you can't compare the manouverbility of the f22 with the one of the typhoon"
You're right, you can't:
watch?v=yk5kmLqwGw4
watch?v=0pmBTixjRh0
:)
-"typhoon does the same manouvers as the raptor"
The Tiffy most certainly CAN'T do any of the extreme AoA and post-stall maneuvers the F-22 does so easily.
The EF's a neat plane, but it barely edges out the F-16 performance-wise.
em745aa 2 years ago
music??
lavatore70 2 years ago
hall of flames
matt wilkie&matthew corebett
adrenaline rush
tobse919 2 years ago
Lol, everyone was asking what it was before and now that youtube put up the thing, now everyone knows haha. =D
undertake782 2 years ago
stealthy means it heas a low radar cross section and the typioon is a great plane it has extreme supersonic maneuverability witch the f-22 doesnt have and it has beater compute technology
Roki21GM 2 years ago 2
and the one thing with the F-22 has on all other fighter is its stealth, that being said Europe has radar that can detect it. lol
lukehillwood 2 years ago
The Eurofighter has a top speed of Mach 2.0 while the F-22 has a top speed of Mach 2.43
Both have extremely advanced tech and John P. Jumper, one of the few to fly both said "The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the FA-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula 1 car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance."
ACTopher315 2 years ago
haha, don't believe those stats for the 22 my friend. I can tell you right now, that is BS. I'm an aerospace engineer, and I can tell you it goes way faster than that, lol.
mrgatorland 2 years ago
No.....thats the top speed of the F-22, prove it to me that it goes faster...........
UKUK12345 2 years ago
Just say Gen 4.5 vs. Gen 5.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
but F1 is better so there is no need to compare it with nascare ;)
BigFatLedgend 2 years ago
the eurofighter sucks balls when you think about what the germans and the italians and the spanish and the british could have done with all that money it boggles the mind i mean it isnt even stealth its stealthy ... whatever the fuck that means for fucks sake, the f 22 a is a proper 5th gen aircraft imho
frankyman321 2 years ago
yeah!!!! here in italy w elove this fighter!!!
madguydrummer666 2 years ago
Obviously flankers are the most manoeuvrable fighters.
plasmabird 2 years ago
03-2005 USAF Chief of Staff General John P. Jumper, then the only person to have flown both the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Raptor.
The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the F/A-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula 1 car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance.
SO You Tube Desktop Pilots STFU.
MickeyCBR1100XX 2 years ago
F-22 (COOL)
Eurofighter Typhoon (BETTER)
F-14 (Legend)
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (THE NEXT KING OF THE SKY!!!)
CefiroGuy3 2 years ago
im being repeated, but if anyones knows this song name please let me know.. thnx.
t3hownZ0r 2 years ago
hall of flames by matt wilkie and matthew corbett
tomxa350 2 years ago 2
If you like to see a manoeurable aircraft, check out SU-37 extreme manuevrability demo. AWSOME.
Jallmar88 2 years ago
i wish they would hav more thn 1 typhoon at biggin hill =(
mward5291 2 years ago
where can i get this video?
horizonflyer9 2 years ago
tyhoon is most manoeurable aircraft, still ceases to amaze me
cutelookindoctor 2 years ago
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The Eurofighter is more manoeuvrable than the F-22 and has a higher speed.
That's all I know about it :P.
Arbitrary242 2 years ago
noone of you pussys, ever flew nor the f22 nor the eurofighter, so shut up
Dhaune 3 years ago
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you know what donʻt hate the US because we are BEAUTIFUL!!! and we are the BIG DOGS of the world!! hate your government for being WEAK!!! when youʻre the BEST everyones out to take you down, even your best "friend".. this is what i see. typhoon SUCKS so "lets attack the best jet in the world F-22 RAPTOR".. what LOSERS!!!
cherylz1 3 years ago
YO. the raptor is awesome- but there is no need to be hostile about the typhoon just because it is a very good jet too. I'm american, and i love the f-22, but its like Theodore Roosevelt once said, "carry a big stick, and talk quietly, and everyone will hear you just as loud."
KNDoperative 3 years ago
i like that analogy. im British F-22 is on par with EF (im not saying one is better that the other)
markgoodall 3 years ago
anyone knows how this song is called? if yes let me know... thnx...
t3hownZ0r 3 years ago