God, she's such a phony, dumbass, idiot. Another failed interview by her. One of the worst Nat. Security Advisors ever and worst Secretarys of State ever. See how she twists and turns trying to spout out her mostly bullshit answers? She gets all aggravated with Lawrence pointing out her crap yet SHE interupts HIM at least as much. You're a damn fraud Rice just like your buddy Bush.
@ridewave444 I received the message that you sent to my YouTube inbox... First, your ridiculously presumptuous and adolescent statement of " I AM smarter than you no doubt", is not only irrefutable proof that YOU, in reality, are the one with intellectual limited "preconceived notions", but also proves that you are an extraordinary ignorant and childish hypocrite. Further, your inane statement of "I have facts about her lies and you don't", is laughable. Where are your "facts"? LOL
And why have these war criminals not been prosecuted yet? Where's the International criminal court? Our "Justice" department is totally useless and has been completely co-opted by the criminals. She should have been executed by now.
In all due respect Mr. O'Donnell had better revert back to his regular guests who provide his show the fair & balanced reputation which as everyone knows is the cornerstone of MSNBC ie Huffington Post, ersonal support team which includes elements of the Wash. Post, Huffington Post, and of course his co-workers at MSNBC. Condoleezza Rice outclasses O'Donnell and with elloquence and specificity both makes her case & dispenses MSNBC childish doctrine of constantant interruptions w/same class. Bravo
It is great how O'Donnell unmasks a liar, a deceiver, a dishonest Rice who cannot accept the fact that she along with Bush and Cheney sank the US into unnecessary wars.
Armchair historians such as yourself suffer from the "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" syndrome. You and those like minded individuals speak from a position of ignorence. This is not a dig but a conclusion based on factual information. Ms Rice refuted each & every claim made by O'Donnell & as previously mentioned, did so with class. O'Donnell however is a good example of the MSNBC doctrine of "gotcha" journalism peppered with interruptions.
(continued) Ms Rice is the embodyment of what has made our country the pillar of Democracy. Consider for a moment a person who accepts the stress, long hours & most importantly conviction of conscience. She represents the few who must shoulder the ultimate responsibility, making decisions which potentially place others in life and death situations. Imagine having to forever live with that responsibility, while you have the luxury of hindsight and second guessing. Do the math
as a liberal i respect the intelligence of dr rice....she did her job even though it may have been the wrong action but she is very intelligent and knows her facts........
Get material with foreign tubes and aid. One guy was sent to Niger to find out if this was true, it wasn't he said so, shit for brains administration got pissed, and out his covert CIA agent. That's not treason?
I wish Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews conducted this interview. Condi chose O'Donnenll because she knew she could step all over him. Lawrence did have her a couple of times, but he let her get away with too much.
Way to challenge her Lawrence. Britain has already said after this interview there was no threat from Iraq. They entered Iraq falsely, killed over 1 million Iraqi's. He should be grilling Bush and Cheney. O'donnell is one of the best out there. She got defensive because no one has challenged her own lies.
Just when I thought that this "network" (which has about a half dozen viewers) couldn't possibly hire a more smarmy, irritating, scumbag then Kieth Olbermann...they replace him with this tool. Way to school this hack Condi!!
What an asshole! And that's a nice way to describe him! Don't talk over people. Do you think you are intelligent for talking over people? Don't you dare act like a child!
@2ne1042194 Yeah how dare he be rude to a member of an Admin who got over 4,000 of our best and brightest killed and over 30,000 grievously wounded over a lie. Not to mention the trillion dollar price tag. Oh but at least they gave tax cuts to wealthy and even ensured the continuation of our quasi-plutocracy with that 0% inheritance tax.
Condi is SO much smarter than Lawrence. He just makes stuff up and usually gets away with it but she called him on the carpet. He has absolutely no credibility.
@TimH1955 Cunti's administration lied 900+ times you fuckin idiot, how' that for credibility. And being smart doesn't make you honest, competent or ethical, which we all know doesn't matter to hypocritical brainwashed sheep like you, as long as they're better looking and you can have a beer with them right?..lol shallow retards.
i thought we went to the middle east to get Osama and they went running around Iran and Iraq? no wonder it took 10 yrs to find the man hiding in plain site.
II dislike the interruptions but I would have had a hard time listening to Rice engage in revisionist history, too! Chief UN Weapons Inspector, Scott Ritter says Saddam COOPERATED, that there were NO WMDs, and BUSH PULLED THEM OUT then lied saying Saddam expelled them! See DOWNING STREET MEMOS: BUSH and BLAIR agreed to FIX the intelligence to falsely justify attacking Iraq. YELLOW CAKE - URANIUM ENRICHMENT - ALUMINUM TUBE are deliberate lies to COVER-UP and justify this CRIME.
What an arrogant, supercilious ass, this guy is. He couldn't carry Condoleezza Rice's book bag, but he looks down his nose at her. As if he could possibly be her intellectual equal, much less her superior.
Ill-informed? O'Donnel is all knowing and can even change history with a single sentence. What about all your favorite democrats that voted to invade Iraq O'Donnel? Were they acting apart from the coalition? The coalition that didn't exist until, oh yeah, it did exist. I think maybe O'Donnel is a secret android. He doesn't seem to get reason at all.
Hahahahahahahah "The grown ups of the Obama administration". Holy shit that is funny. My life is busy again. And I've beaten a dead horse ( long enough anyway). LOL oh man.
"If you think that for one minute that you are going to be able to take Saddam Hussein down through mass protests in the streets,then you are clearly ill informed" Hahahaha EXACTLY RIGHT CONDI. But you forgot to say that Larry is trying his best to please his Soviet masters. Has anyone told him that the Soviet Union has disolved? LOL. I love Condoleeza Rice!!
@bush1tman If anyone has a history of being ill-informed it's Condi and the Bush admin. Either that or they just lie to promote their agendas. She said "when you get up in the morning you cant consider that your intel may be wrong", well I gotta say that any organization in charge of the country had better consider that possibility, when so many lives are at stake. You should double check and triple check your intel. Incompetence.
@IChIDH Spoken like an incompetent who has never worked in the inteligence community or a position of high authority. How else could you know everything?
@bush1tman That's my point...you can't know everything. I know this, bureaucracies that hide their mistakes fail, and that's what they all do these days. It's takes a person to say, yes, I made a mistake, and here's the best way to fix it.
O'donnel is such a slease bag. He is claiming that Bush used 9-11 as an excuse for attacking Iraq and Saddam. Pres Bush said in that quote that 9-11 should make us look at threats differently. Not that the 9-11 attacks are carte blanche to attack anyone. What a creep. Fuck you Larry
@bush1tman of course, they tried to sell it on 9-11. what is wrong with you? they talked about ties to al-qaeda and terrorist training camps. cheney said the attack or iraq struck at the geographic base of terrorism that resulted in 9-11. all of it grotesquely, overwhelmingly wrong and willfully so. and, of course, attacking iraq took resources AWAY from afghanistan and the hunt for bin laden. thankfully, the grownups of the obama admin took over and got the job done.
Larry ODonnel is a CREEPY LIAR (Larry's own words). Why did he lie about Bush having no Iraq coalition, she nailed his lying ass! Condi for President of the U.S. with Alan West as V.P. All the dems and the allies thought Saddam was a threat, the 1st Gulf War was not over, it had been 12 years, hardly a rush to war. Hey creepy liar Larry, the dems voted for use of force against Saddam. Larry is a creepy liar... Larry is a racist liar and CREEPY. CONDI HIT A HOME RUN AT THE END!
Larry is a rude, pretentious, partisan hack. This interview was rather tame by his standards. Watch his interview of Peter Schiff if you want to see how obnoxious and insulting this guy really is. Or when he jumped all over a congressman, for sleeping on his office couch.
Dr Rice mops the floor with this jerk if you watch the whole interview. Dr. Rice knows what she's talking about, O'Donnell is just liberal Monday-morning quarterbacking. And the best part is, Obama is bombing Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi in Syria because he is a brutal dictator & will brutalize his own people. It is ok when Obama does it, but when George W. Bush does it, well? The liberal hypocrisy at its best.
If a democrat was in office 9/11 would have never happened. Republicans like to act tough, but there nothing but rich idiots walking around with vaginas thinkin flashing guns in public hides there pussines, i dont care what the fuck anybody says 3000 americans were slaughtered while republicans were in power and since then we have lost 6000 soldiers, 2 trillion $ spent more than 1/2 gone to war profitier corps not even our own soldiers,so fuck neocons tea baggers & pple who vote for them
when this former Admin. and their ilk want to beat up on Iran they say it was Iran that gassed the Kurds
when they want to beat up on Iraq they say it was Saddam.
There's no dispute however when it comes to this Administration and the current one that both are guilty of war crimes and THEY know that the American People are too STUPID to do anything about it
@TheBigboytoy100 who da fuck said Iraq? And in what did you conclude that i'm a 'liberal' lmao little uneducated punk go back to school and inform yourself before calling other people names.
Hey asshole I could care less about whether or not your a liberal or not but you obviously don't know what me and many other on here are talking about, if you don't want to be addressed that way then don't fuckin talk to me, simple shit
condalizza rice has class?????? WTFF!!!!!!? hahhhahha. You have no hope dude. You are ...hahahahha....you are one stupid mf'er, by any standard. What is that between your ears brother......shat?....by chance.
She is a lying rat. hahahahaa She will hang for her treachery. Did you hear her say you just made an untrue statement! getting mad. This is a gas. Talk about a psychopath. For codomlisa rice to say that is priceless!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahaaaahh!
@nnjhansen So you believe that Saddam created the chemical weapons he used against the Kurds in northern Iraq, including the chemical agents and equipment required to manufacture the weapons?
@nnjhansen Don't write back to me because it's obvious you simply don't know what your talking about, or more precisely it appears the only thing to do know about you've gotten from the MSM.
Any weapons capability Saddam possessed he got from the U.S or Europe. Now shut up.
@LucidDivinity Losing? That's a funny statement comming from someone who can't spell.
1.) Your - a term a possession, like your house, your life, your rights, etc.
2.) You're - a conjunction of you are, like you're an idiot who can't spell.
Considering you've (you have, lol) violated copyright laws I choose not to communicate with you or anyone with such an incorrigible and ignorant nature.
I do say this, she does make some good points, you cant act on information you have today that you have tomorrow. I am no big fan of bush, but this chick is a debater.
@SidiousMaximus you overlook the fact that she lied through her teeth repeatedly and continues to do so. she said the aluminum tubes were used exclusively for weapons. there were experts at the time saying not only was that false but that it would be difficult to use those tubes that way. she said saddam was a threat to us, an absurd notion. she repeatedly talked about a nuclear threat and used 9-11 as justification. she said no one could imagine using planes as weapons. an epic liar.
@tishhead If anyone could imagine using planes as weapons it would have been Clinton who was told that just before he put a 5 down on his score card after making an 8. Saddam was a threat to us. They had their entire military on the Saudi border which would have given them control of 50% of the world's available oil if they invaded. And they would have won easy. You piece of shit. Give me your address. I'd like to kill you.
@SidiousMaximus You seem to miss the point. There were inspectors on the ground in Iraq that were telling the Bush administration there were no WMD. Hanz Blix and Muhammad El Baradi were telling the Bush Administration there were no weapons. They didn't listen. So for her to say "they didn't know" is just false. They knew it and ignored it because they had their own agenda.
@filecage The inspectors were saying no such thing. Both Blix and El Baradi were dissatisfied with Iraqi cooperation and Iraqi explanations. Blix said of the Iraqi 7 Dec 02 Report, "(N)o confidence can arise that proscribed programmes or items have been eliminated." On Jan 27, 2003 hestated "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance ... of the disarmament, which was demanded of it."
@nnjhansen i can see why condi would be a heroine of yours since you are also dishonest to the core of your being. i notice there's no reference here to blix's feb 14 report to the UN which has repeated references to iraq's cooperation, a mention of more than 400 unannounced inspections and praise for iraq's finally having seen the light and the failure to find any significant proscribed materials. which is exactly why rumsfeld-cheney knew they had to attack quickly. frauds all around.
@tishhead Nowhere in that 14 Feb statement does he state that there were no weapons, did he? He merely sated that Iraq's cooperation had improved. No surprise given the 100,000 US troops sitting across the Kuwaiti border. Surely you are not suggesting that 1. 400 inspections were sufficient to determine that Iraq had complied with the UN resolutions and 2. That the US could have maintained that level of troops in Kuwait indefinitely to ensure Iraqi compliance.
@nnjhansen ah, look at those goal posts move! you quoted blix on the lack of iraqi cooperation knowing full well that he had later testified to the opposite. that's about you, not blix and not saddam. it's about your willingness to pervert facts to make a point that has long since been discredited. no, 400 inspections wasn't enough. that's why they should have continued rather than be abruptly stopped to clear the decks for mass murder on a horrific scale.
@tishhead No moving goal posts, the goal posts were set by 'filecage,' "Hanz Blix and Muhammad El Baradi were telling the Bush Administration there were no weapons."
The mass murder took place before the US invasion, Saddam was the mass murderer.
@nnjhansen you just can't stop yourself can you? forget filecage. man up. you quoted blix on lack of cooperation when you knew that was superceded by later statements. that's you. as for mass murder, you know full well that repubs did nothing in response to that. and they blocked proposed sanctions against iraq in response to their war crimes in iran. btw, it's possible to have more than one episode of mass murder. and it's the one done in my name that i'm more concerned about.
@nnjhansen well i gave you a couple of chances to show at least a minimal amount of honesty and integrity. that you would fail so spectacularly should surprise no one. this is a public forum. if you're going to be so willfully dishonest, you should expect to be called on it. and the invasion was not only not justified, it was a massive strategic blunder. compromising our economy, alienating countries that could help us all to create an iranian client state. failure on so many levels.
@nnjhansen for your own sake, please stop. the main violation was complying with inspections, which had been rectified before our massive act of terrorism. the only justification for that war would have been a threat to us, an aggressive act by iraq or an imminent threat of mass murder by the government. none applied. your cost estimate is just the baseline (and a little low at that). CBO estimates 2.4 trillion when the interest comes due. you can add massive healthcare costs for GIs to that.
@tishhead No, the ceasefire demanded the unconditional "destruction, removal, or rendering harmless, under international supervision, of: (a) All chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities;
(b) All ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometres and related major parts, and repair and production facilities"
@nnjhansen interesting that you would quote hans blix, the same blix who has stated unequivocally that the war was illegal. and even that is a stricter standard than justified. we attacked a country that was making no aggressive moves toward anyone, that was certainly no threat to us. it was a larger act of terrorism than 9-11.
@tishhead I only quoted Blix in response to filecage. His opinion on the legality of the war is irrelevant. The war was legal under US law and international law as Iraq was in violation of their ceasefire obligations.
Your understanding of terrorism is beyond ignorant.
@nnjhansen i was only quoting blix when it seemed like he agreed with me (even though i willfully ignored later information that contradicted that). he's relevant when he looks like he agrees with me, irrelevant when he doesn't. got it.
what is "shock and awe" if not terrorism. shock and awe doesn't describe the accomplishment of military goals. it is literally the definition of terrorism. unless you think it's only terrorism when the other guys do it.
@tishhead I did not make a cost estimate, I stated the amount of money spent. Your assertion that the amount of money spent (a bit over $1 trillion over 9 years) compromised the US economy is absurd on its face. The cost of the failed stimulus exceeded the total cost of the war in a single year.
@nnjhansen so when you buy a house, you only count the down payment? i'm getting older. i can't wait for you to grow up. that would be the same stimulus that every impartial analysis has shown saved up to a full pt off unemployment and added to gdp. it would be the same stimulus that repubs blasted and then ran home to their districts to take credit for. as peter gabriel sang, the amusement never ends.
@nnjhansen of course we have. most of the money we spent on it was borrowed and we have guaranteed massive veterans health spending because of it. analyses? try CBO, Moody's, IHS-Global Insight and a Wall Street Journal survey of 54 leading economists for starters.
@tishhead So, future healthcare spending crippled our economy? Or was it future interest payments?
By Moody's, I assume you mean Mark Zandi their chief economist (and Obama economic adviser) who predicted in Jan 09 that the stimulus would lower the unemployment rate by half a point in 6 months? That worked out well for him didn't it?
@nnjhansen a) 120 billion a year in current spending isn't exactly pocket change. b) yes future debts do inhibit the economy. isn't that what your side has been screaming for 2 years? your second point isn't even up to your own staggeringly low standards of logic. because one person made a projection that didn't pan out, you attack the after-the-fact analysis of the organization AND multiple others as well? was that a better or worse prediction than that the iraq war would pay for itself?
@tishhead a) $120billion a year in current spending in a $3 trillion budget cannot cripple a $13 trillion economy.
b) The interest on $120billion is even less significant than the principal.
c) Not only was the Moody's analysis not impartial, their chief economist was wrong regarding the stimulus. The 2010 survey of National Association of Business Economists: The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date.
@nnjhansen cbo is estimating a total price tag of 2.4 trillion, not counting the extra health costs. i think obama should propose a new social spending plan that costs 2.4 trillion since it's obviously a trivial amount. on point two, congratulations, you found the outlier, a pure right-wing business organization that doesn't like govt spending. you can't see my shocked face. i'll stick with the noted left-wing rag the WSJ, where 2/3 of their economists said there was significant positive impact
@nnjhansen one true rule of youtube discussions. the first person to declare victory is NEVER correct. but apparently you can lie to yourself as well as you lie to others.
@tishhead Please cite the source of that rule. Even though I know it must be from your "Legend in your own mind". It seems more that the one with the most bullshit (you) wins by default. That, and the fact that most people don't care for a "one up, last word" debate. Except people like yourself. Creep.
@102936 You obviously don't know what patriotism really means. That bitch was extremely condescending toward Mr. O'Donnell as he was rather polite. She preferred a lecture and not an interview and even threatened to end it if he did not behave the way she wanted him to. That's a bully. She behaved like since she was Secretary of State she was somehow superior to Mr. ODonnell and that he should simply listen, not interrupt her or offer any differing views.
@GoodVibezin Your entitled to your opinion, but how was she supposed to respond to such an accusation as "Would you say that was the single worst mistatement by a national security advisor publicly"? O'Donnell, unfortunately, does have a habit to slant his interviews to one political sphere, and comes off as extremely condescending. My believing this or Rice pointing this out does not have any effect on either of our patriotic beliefs. I will discuss this no further.
@102936 I'm glad you will discuss this matter no further. Anyone who believes the war in Iraq is justifiable is a patsy. But the war in Iraq was not only an abject failure but completely illegal. If my country were run by true patriots then George W. Bush and his entire administration should be arrested and charged with treason and other high crimes and if convicted sentenced to either life without parole or death.
have always been surprised that she hasn't been held to account more. she is one of the great liars in american history: aluminum tubes, mushroom clouds, saddam as a threat to his neighbors and, my personal favorite, no one could have imagined planes being used as weapons. her ability to sound like she believes what she's saying is truly frightening.
@tishhead Your ability to SOUND like you believe what your saying is truley frightening. I've never heard or seen a more intelligent CLASS act than Conid Rice....she laid the truth out PERFECTLY. Go Condi!!!!
@windsong1a you repeat my line with no factual backing whatsoever. good strategy! her lies are well-documented. if you want to go over them, we can, but it will end badly for you.
@tishhead What's truly frightening is that someone taught you to enough to be able to type on a computer. But on second thought it's not frightening at all. You are a dickless piece of driftwood. Take care.
@bush1tman people point at you and laugh a lot, don't they? that would excuse your level of anger at least. iraq was a threat to no one, they were not massed on the saudi border and you have issues that are certainly beyond my training. condi is a horrific liar. you're welcome to believe her but don't expect adults who can read to do the same.
@tishhead Adults who can read who also have weak opinions are no less wobbly than ones who can not read.
Except in cases such as yourself who, as I said, can be truly frightening in that they may have some sort of power. You may point and laugh but your delusions of your own grandeur make your sense of humor suspect. You say Iraq was not a threat in the world. That's your opinion and I don't subscribe to it. Especially as it takes a rewriting of history to do so.
@bush1tman oh yes, a country with no air force, no navy, no nuclear weapons, no WMD was truly a threat. i'm thankful i'm not as easily frightened as you. we did far more damage to ourselves with this invasion than iraq ever could have done to us. the US committed an act of terrorism in our name. you may be ok with that. i'm not.
and i can't tell you how hurt i am that someone i hold in such high regard called me a creep. *sniff*
@tishhead So by your warped definition, as al Qaeda had no army, no air force, no navy, no nuclear weapons, no WMD , they were never a threat either.
How do you define terrorism so that an armed attack my a uniformed military, operating under the command of a sovereign nation, IAW the recognized laws of war, against the armed forces of another sovereign nation qualifies as an act of terrorism?
@nnjhansen you almost have a germ of a point there (a broken clock is right twice a day), but iraq had not engaged in any significant acts of terrorism toward us. as for the 2nd part, it's hard for me to believe you're serious. attacking another country with no provocation is not in accordance with anything. why would they call it shock and awe otherwise? we bombed the crap out of a country that posed no threat to us and was not engaged in any aggression. iraq had more justification vs kuwait.
@tishhead Attempting to assassinate a former President is not a significant act of terrorism? But that is beside the point, your assertion that Iraq posed no threat is simply false. If 9/11 proved anything it was that an entity with no conventional military capability was capable of inflicting great damage.
Violating a ceasefire agreement is sufficient provocation under international law.
What do you think shock and awe was that would equate it to terrorism?
@nnjhansen they didn't attempt to assassinate him; they may or may not have had plans to. your hypothesis is that iraq posed a threat because anybody could have theoretically posed a threat. take a step back and try to realize how absurd that sounds. if a theoretical threat were enough, iran would certainly be justified in attacking us. we had a presidential nominee joking about bombing them and a former VP candidate and current US senator openly advocating attack.
@tishhead The people we elect to make decisions regarding who does or does not pose a threat made a judgement. They determined, based on all the available evidence that they did. You disagree, great. You did not have access to the information they had nor did you have the responsibility they did. Iraq had a very long history of posing a threat to the US, its interests, its allies, and the region. The declared policy of the US and the UN prior to Bush was that he posed a threat.
@nnjhansen sadly, your argument is crumbling. first, there was plenty of evidence that ran counter to their justification that was willfully ignored or excluded. the aluminum tubes fiasco for instance. they deliberately excluded the representative from the energy dept who would have contradicted rice's false claims. and you don't attack a country for what they did in the past or else we might as well attack germany and japan. iraq was no threat. inspectors were on the ground.
@tishhead There was not 'plenty of evidence.' You obviously have no clue how intelligence works. The Energy Dept was the ONLY agency that disputed that the tubes were the type used for nuclear weapons and their objection was not that they were not that type but that was a possible alternate use. BTW, that alternate use ALSO violated the ceasefire. The DOE analysis was not excluded but assigned to an appendix were such an outlier analysis belongs.
@nnjhansen you lied again. imagine my shock. the analysis was that not only were the tubes not "exclusively" for weapons development as rice lied, but that they would be difficult to use in that manner. virtually every claim the bushies made was contradicted before the fact by people who were ignored and marginalized. the "outlier" opinion is now widely accepted as the truth. what does that tell you? of course, the inspectors were sufficient. because THERE WERE NO WMDS!
she is a stud !
jimshortsfull 4 weeks ago
She is a particular kind of liar. She's the kind that will lie with conviction.
I do agree that Lawrence needs to interrupt people less.
PurpleHoneyBear 1 month ago
Canadians we NOT in Iraq.
peterharrisonzx6r 1 month ago
I'm one white guy that loves Condoleeza Rice!!! Smart is sexy!
joebaseball17 1 month ago
God, she's such a phony, dumbass, idiot. Another failed interview by her. One of the worst Nat. Security Advisors ever and worst Secretarys of State ever. See how she twists and turns trying to spout out her mostly bullshit answers? She gets all aggravated with Lawrence pointing out her crap yet SHE interupts HIM at least as much. You're a damn fraud Rice just like your buddy Bush.
ridewave444 2 months ago
@ridewave444 WOW, way to go there champ... Way to prove to everyone that you are clearly as smart as you sound. LOL
joebaseball17 1 month ago
@ridewave444 I received the message that you sent to my YouTube inbox... First, your ridiculously presumptuous and adolescent statement of " I AM smarter than you no doubt", is not only irrefutable proof that YOU, in reality, are the one with intellectual limited "preconceived notions", but also proves that you are an extraordinary ignorant and childish hypocrite. Further, your inane statement of "I have facts about her lies and you don't", is laughable. Where are your "facts"? LOL
joebaseball17 1 month ago
Condi Rice. What a worthless lying bitch.
ridewave444 2 months ago
Condi is brilliant. Why isn't she running?
BorislavX 2 months ago
@BorislavX Because she is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from brilliant.
thirteendays13 1 month ago
I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but Lawrence got owned!!!
xgunther 2 months ago 2
Excellent... Bravo to this fine, well spoken lady... Dang!!!! Smokin'.
Biggerbyte 3 months ago
@Biggerbyte brava, moron
mickeyb1000 1 month ago
Well she whipped his sarcastic ass.
Biggerbyte 3 months ago
Condi... you're a boss....
statequalifier876 3 months ago 2
Condi completely owned this marxist chump.
bossdrive525 3 months ago 2
Man I wish she would run for President!!!!
Marakulous43 3 months ago
I love you CONDI!! (*_*) FUCK THAT STUPID ASSHOLE! Condi kept letting his stupid ass have it. I hate men like that.
Senshiboi99 3 months ago
O'Donnell is a communist with a bad haircut...very cool of him to talk over his own guests with his own agenda He should just interview himself
atifchaves 4 months ago
Go Condaleezza.....my hero.
Dredworld 4 months ago
She really destroyd him, lol. Like the scumbag he is. Go Condi!
SlowY00 4 months ago
What a piece of shit O'Donnell is.
Krystoff04111 4 months ago
I would like to read a summary of contradicting points-of-view - now and again - since I find it hard to follow.
Does anybody know any sites that do summarys and pro/contra, on articles etc?
Abendzeit 4 months ago
And why have these war criminals not been prosecuted yet? Where's the International criminal court? Our "Justice" department is totally useless and has been completely co-opted by the criminals. She should have been executed by now.
patginsd 5 months ago
@patginsd in Iran if you sanction executions of public figures.
EarlRegent 4 months ago
@patginsd go to I mean.
EarlRegent 4 months ago
She's obnoxious! I raise my hat to O'Donnell for not losing his cool and biting her wagging finger off!
foxchool 5 months ago
grill this bitch
devrimhan1971 5 months ago
@devrimhan1971 LOOOL
SlowY00 4 months ago
@devrimhan1971 Grill yourself! Have some respect for a former Sec. Of State.
EarlRegent 4 months ago
Rice TOTALLY owned O'Donnell!!
TimH1955 5 months ago
I disagree with her on everything apart from the uprising/iraq comparison.
pandasftuw 5 months ago
condolezza rice is badass.
b3autiful13 6 months ago
In all due respect Mr. O'Donnell had better revert back to his regular guests who provide his show the fair & balanced reputation which as everyone knows is the cornerstone of MSNBC ie Huffington Post, ersonal support team which includes elements of the Wash. Post, Huffington Post, and of course his co-workers at MSNBC. Condoleezza Rice outclasses O'Donnell and with elloquence and specificity both makes her case & dispenses MSNBC childish doctrine of constantant interruptions w/same class. Bravo
1954tele 6 months ago
It is great how O'Donnell unmasks a liar, a deceiver, a dishonest Rice who cannot accept the fact that she along with Bush and Cheney sank the US into unnecessary wars.
pepecarlos777 6 months ago 2
Armchair historians such as yourself suffer from the "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" syndrome. You and those like minded individuals speak from a position of ignorence. This is not a dig but a conclusion based on factual information. Ms Rice refuted each & every claim made by O'Donnell & as previously mentioned, did so with class. O'Donnell however is a good example of the MSNBC doctrine of "gotcha" journalism peppered with interruptions.
1954tele 6 months ago
(continued) Ms Rice is the embodyment of what has made our country the pillar of Democracy. Consider for a moment a person who accepts the stress, long hours & most importantly conviction of conscience. She represents the few who must shoulder the ultimate responsibility, making decisions which potentially place others in life and death situations. Imagine having to forever live with that responsibility, while you have the luxury of hindsight and second guessing. Do the math
1954tele 6 months ago
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cyrusthegreater 6 months ago
@cyrusthegreater My comment stays and stands as it was written.
pepecarlos777 6 months ago
as a liberal i respect the intelligence of dr rice....she did her job even though it may have been the wrong action but she is very intelligent and knows her facts........
SpaceObake 7 months ago
Perhaps you delusional Libs need to be reminded of history. Put this in the search box, then stop your blame-game:
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GetItRight4aChange 7 months ago
Get material with foreign tubes and aid. One guy was sent to Niger to find out if this was true, it wasn't he said so, shit for brains administration got pissed, and out his covert CIA agent. That's not treason?
MrEatonbeaver 7 months ago
Damn...this bitch is still lying!
nagone11 7 months ago
I wish Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews conducted this interview. Condi chose O'Donnenll because she knew she could step all over him. Lawrence did have her a couple of times, but he let her get away with too much.
funkbrother216 7 months ago
Way to challenge her Lawrence. Britain has already said after this interview there was no threat from Iraq. They entered Iraq falsely, killed over 1 million Iraqi's. He should be grilling Bush and Cheney. O'donnell is one of the best out there. She got defensive because no one has challenged her own lies.
oceans19711 7 months ago
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GetItRight4aChange 7 months ago
This Guy is a rubbish interviewer. She's all over him, not that I'm a supporter of any of the Bush Administration, they should all be in Jail.
cobra60six 8 months ago
Just when I thought that this "network" (which has about a half dozen viewers) couldn't possibly hire a more smarmy, irritating, scumbag then Kieth Olbermann...they replace him with this tool. Way to school this hack Condi!!
tjmcevoy62 8 months ago
Good interview, that is the job of the press
augerrusty 9 months ago
Why does this guy look into the camera so creepy?
pennjersey83 9 months ago
What an asshole! And that's a nice way to describe him! Don't talk over people. Do you think you are intelligent for talking over people? Don't you dare act like a child!
2ne1042194 9 months ago 8
@2ne1042194 He was stating a fact and she threatened to end the interview in order to shut him up. But he is an asshole huh?
kevinjones238 9 months ago
@2ne1042194 - what do you expect from this slimy piece of shit? he's a weak, old, rotten bitch.
gombis666 7 months ago
@2ne1042194 Yeah how dare he be rude to a member of an Admin who got over 4,000 of our best and brightest killed and over 30,000 grievously wounded over a lie. Not to mention the trillion dollar price tag. Oh but at least they gave tax cuts to wealthy and even ensured the continuation of our quasi-plutocracy with that 0% inheritance tax.
joshuancts 6 months ago
@2ne1042194 Condoleezza Rice is a bitch.Talking over her should be mandated.
thirteendays13 1 month ago
What an asshole! And that's a nice way to describe him!
2ne1042194 9 months ago
Condi is SO much smarter than Lawrence. He just makes stuff up and usually gets away with it but she called him on the carpet. He has absolutely no credibility.
TimH1955 9 months ago 2
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@TimH1955 For more about Dr. Rice see my video:
Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows
The widows called her "KindaLiesaLot Rice"
Lying under oath. How smart is that?
punxsutawneybarney 9 months ago
@TimH1955 Cunti's administration lied 900+ times you fuckin idiot, how' that for credibility. And being smart doesn't make you honest, competent or ethical, which we all know doesn't matter to hypocritical brainwashed sheep like you, as long as they're better looking and you can have a beer with them right?..lol shallow retards.
Somai82 7 months ago
Lok at a criminal lady.
lightdarktruth 9 months ago
She lied about Canadians fighting with the US. Canada didn't not join them. We had a government that was not fond of George Bush.
Rodney92 9 months ago
@Rodney92 It's called a slip of tongue
Marakulous43 3 months ago
lol the georgians and japanese and poles who just gave a few hundred soldiers, condi rize you stupid retarded war criminal.
SamiZaatari 9 months ago
had to make myself watch the whole video.
i thought we went to the middle east to get Osama and they went running around Iran and Iraq? no wonder it took 10 yrs to find the man hiding in plain site.
oh wait it did'nt, he was already dead.
AndrewJ254 9 months ago
Poor guy....IQ clearly below what he needs to spar with Dr. Rice!
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patrickhouse23 9 months ago
II dislike the interruptions but I would have had a hard time listening to Rice engage in revisionist history, too! Chief UN Weapons Inspector, Scott Ritter says Saddam COOPERATED, that there were NO WMDs, and BUSH PULLED THEM OUT then lied saying Saddam expelled them! See DOWNING STREET MEMOS: BUSH and BLAIR agreed to FIX the intelligence to falsely justify attacking Iraq. YELLOW CAKE - URANIUM ENRICHMENT - ALUMINUM TUBE are deliberate lies to COVER-UP and justify this CRIME.
Truth Matters.
251omega 9 months ago
What an arrogant, supercilious ass, this guy is. He couldn't carry Condoleezza Rice's book bag, but he looks down his nose at her. As if he could possibly be her intellectual equal, much less her superior.
hilohaw 9 months ago 2
@hilohaw Hell yeah!! Exactly what I was thinking!
j03cool 9 months ago
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hilohaw 9 months ago
Condi, Winner by TKO!
SoulMedicine 9 months ago 2
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@SoulMedicine
"Condi, Winner by TKO!" It makes sense, if you don't think about it.
Reminds me of FoxNews' motto: "FoxNews - When FACTS don't matter!"
251omega 9 months ago
Ill-informed? O'Donnel is all knowing and can even change history with a single sentence. What about all your favorite democrats that voted to invade Iraq O'Donnel? Were they acting apart from the coalition? The coalition that didn't exist until, oh yeah, it did exist. I think maybe O'Donnel is a secret android. He doesn't seem to get reason at all.
1980PintoMan 9 months ago 2
Hahahahahahahah "The grown ups of the Obama administration". Holy shit that is funny. My life is busy again. And I've beaten a dead horse ( long enough anyway). LOL oh man.
bush1tman 9 months ago
"If you think that for one minute that you are going to be able to take Saddam Hussein down through mass protests in the streets,then you are clearly ill informed" Hahahaha EXACTLY RIGHT CONDI. But you forgot to say that Larry is trying his best to please his Soviet masters. Has anyone told him that the Soviet Union has disolved? LOL. I love Condoleeza Rice!!
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman If anyone has a history of being ill-informed it's Condi and the Bush admin. Either that or they just lie to promote their agendas. She said "when you get up in the morning you cant consider that your intel may be wrong", well I gotta say that any organization in charge of the country had better consider that possibility, when so many lives are at stake. You should double check and triple check your intel. Incompetence.
IChIDH 9 months ago
@IChIDH Spoken like an incompetent who has never worked in the inteligence community or a position of high authority. How else could you know everything?
bush1tman 9 months ago 2
@bush1tman That's my point...you can't know everything. I know this, bureaucracies that hide their mistakes fail, and that's what they all do these days. It's takes a person to say, yes, I made a mistake, and here's the best way to fix it.
IChIDH 9 months ago
@IChIDH Great. Please write Obama a letter as he is in office now.
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman why would I do that?
IChIDH 9 months ago
@IChIDH To inform him that he should double and triple check his info so that he does't make mistakes. Like taht evil Condoleeza Rice
bush1tman 9 months ago
O'donnel is such a slease bag. He is claiming that Bush used 9-11 as an excuse for attacking Iraq and Saddam. Pres Bush said in that quote that 9-11 should make us look at threats differently. Not that the 9-11 attacks are carte blanche to attack anyone. What a creep. Fuck you Larry
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman of course, they tried to sell it on 9-11. what is wrong with you? they talked about ties to al-qaeda and terrorist training camps. cheney said the attack or iraq struck at the geographic base of terrorism that resulted in 9-11. all of it grotesquely, overwhelmingly wrong and willfully so. and, of course, attacking iraq took resources AWAY from afghanistan and the hunt for bin laden. thankfully, the grownups of the obama admin took over and got the job done.
tishhead 9 months ago
hahaha. when he gets put in his place he just moves on to the next question as if he didnt just get his ass handed to him. so hilarious!!
Bradbssargdons 9 months ago
this fool gets owned left and right. you just cant get through to people like this. they train their brains to believe false information
Bradbssargdons 9 months ago
Larry ODonnel is a CREEPY LIAR (Larry's own words). Why did he lie about Bush having no Iraq coalition, she nailed his lying ass! Condi for President of the U.S. with Alan West as V.P. All the dems and the allies thought Saddam was a threat, the 1st Gulf War was not over, it had been 12 years, hardly a rush to war. Hey creepy liar Larry, the dems voted for use of force against Saddam. Larry is a creepy liar... Larry is a racist liar and CREEPY. CONDI HIT A HOME RUN AT THE END!
dellvostro784 9 months ago
Larry is a rude, pretentious, partisan hack. This interview was rather tame by his standards. Watch his interview of Peter Schiff if you want to see how obnoxious and insulting this guy really is. Or when he jumped all over a congressman, for sleeping on his office couch.
Condi has class ... Larry is a punk.
klrdotorg 9 months ago 4
Dr Rice mops the floor with this jerk if you watch the whole interview. Dr. Rice knows what she's talking about, O'Donnell is just liberal Monday-morning quarterbacking. And the best part is, Obama is bombing Muammar Muhammad al-Gaddafi in Syria because he is a brutal dictator & will brutalize his own people. It is ok when Obama does it, but when George W. Bush does it, well? The liberal hypocrisy at its best.
BlackRepublican2010 9 months ago 2
If a democrat was in office 9/11 would have never happened. Republicans like to act tough, but there nothing but rich idiots walking around with vaginas thinkin flashing guns in public hides there pussines, i dont care what the fuck anybody says 3000 americans were slaughtered while republicans were in power and since then we have lost 6000 soldiers, 2 trillion $ spent more than 1/2 gone to war profitier corps not even our own soldiers,so fuck neocons tea baggers & pple who vote for them
loud4trth 9 months ago
when this former Admin. and their ilk want to beat up on Iran they say it was Iran that gassed the Kurds
when they want to beat up on Iraq they say it was Saddam.
There's no dispute however when it comes to this Administration and the current one that both are guilty of war crimes and THEY know that the American People are too STUPID to do anything about it
marniespeaks 9 months ago
@TheBigboytoy100 who da fuck said Iraq? And in what did you conclude that i'm a 'liberal' lmao little uneducated punk go back to school and inform yourself before calling other people names.
mig0s 9 months ago
@mig0s
Hey asshole I could care less about whether or not your a liberal or not but you obviously don't know what me and many other on here are talking about, if you don't want to be addressed that way then don't fuckin talk to me, simple shit
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marniespeaks 9 months ago
What a Gal! She controlled this interview. Showed O'Donnell for the uninformed fool that he is! I LOVE this woman.
drlontime 9 months ago 4
@drlontime the only people who think she did anything other than humiliate and debase herself in this interview are people who still call women gals.
tishhead 9 months ago
condalizza rice has class?????? WTFF!!!!!!? hahhhahha. You have no hope dude. You are ...hahahahha....you are one stupid mf'er, by any standard. What is that between your ears brother......shat?....by chance.
sssssjjjj1 9 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 Troll.
bush1tman 9 months ago 2
people, if you can't tell she's lying you are one big frucking moron! hhahahahha
sssssjjjj1 9 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 You wash dished well. $1 more per hour for you.
bush1tman 9 months ago
She is a lying rat. hahahahaa She will hang for her treachery. Did you hear her say you just made an untrue statement! getting mad. This is a gas. Talk about a psychopath. For codomlisa rice to say that is priceless!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahaaaahh!
sssssjjjj1 9 months ago
@sssssjjjj1 Hang? Limp dick said what?
bush1tman 9 months ago
O'Donnel is a dbag.
econormal 9 months ago 3
Lawrence spanked the incompetent liar well.
Tippersnore 9 months ago
Why doesn't anyone ever mention that the chemical agents used by Saddam to kill the Kurds were given to him by the U.S. government?
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin The reason no one mentions it is because it is not true.
nnjhansen 9 months ago 2
@nnjhansen So you believe that Saddam created the chemical weapons he used against the Kurds in northern Iraq, including the chemical agents and equipment required to manufacture the weapons?
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin He had production capability. He did not get the weapons from us.
nnjhansen 9 months ago 2
@nnjhansen Don't write back to me because it's obvious you simply don't know what your talking about, or more precisely it appears the only thing to do know about you've gotten from the MSM.
Any weapons capability Saddam possessed he got from the U.S or Europe. Now shut up.
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin Why do you say that? Because Arabs are incapable of mixing chemicals?
nnjhansen 9 months ago 3
@GoodVibezin Why run away because your losing?
LucidDivinity 8 months ago
@LucidDivinity Losing? That's a funny statement comming from someone who can't spell.
1.) Your - a term a possession, like your house, your life, your rights, etc.
2.) You're - a conjunction of you are, like you're an idiot who can't spell.
Considering you've (you have, lol) violated copyright laws I choose not to communicate with you or anyone with such an incorrigible and ignorant nature.
GoodVibezin 8 months ago
I do say this, she does make some good points, you cant act on information you have today that you have tomorrow. I am no big fan of bush, but this chick is a debater.
SidiousMaximus 9 months ago
@SidiousMaximus you overlook the fact that she lied through her teeth repeatedly and continues to do so. she said the aluminum tubes were used exclusively for weapons. there were experts at the time saying not only was that false but that it would be difficult to use those tubes that way. she said saddam was a threat to us, an absurd notion. she repeatedly talked about a nuclear threat and used 9-11 as justification. she said no one could imagine using planes as weapons. an epic liar.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead If anyone could imagine using planes as weapons it would have been Clinton who was told that just before he put a 5 down on his score card after making an 8. Saddam was a threat to us. They had their entire military on the Saudi border which would have given them control of 50% of the world's available oil if they invaded. And they would have won easy. You piece of shit. Give me your address. I'd like to kill you.
bush1tman 9 months ago
@SidiousMaximus You seem to miss the point. There were inspectors on the ground in Iraq that were telling the Bush administration there were no WMD. Hanz Blix and Muhammad El Baradi were telling the Bush Administration there were no weapons. They didn't listen. So for her to say "they didn't know" is just false. They knew it and ignored it because they had their own agenda.
filecage 9 months ago
@filecage The inspectors were saying no such thing. Both Blix and El Baradi were dissatisfied with Iraqi cooperation and Iraqi explanations. Blix said of the Iraqi 7 Dec 02 Report, "(N)o confidence can arise that proscribed programmes or items have been eliminated." On Jan 27, 2003 hestated "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance ... of the disarmament, which was demanded of it."
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen i can see why condi would be a heroine of yours since you are also dishonest to the core of your being. i notice there's no reference here to blix's feb 14 report to the UN which has repeated references to iraq's cooperation, a mention of more than 400 unannounced inspections and praise for iraq's finally having seen the light and the failure to find any significant proscribed materials. which is exactly why rumsfeld-cheney knew they had to attack quickly. frauds all around.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Nowhere in that 14 Feb statement does he state that there were no weapons, did he? He merely sated that Iraq's cooperation had improved. No surprise given the 100,000 US troops sitting across the Kuwaiti border. Surely you are not suggesting that 1. 400 inspections were sufficient to determine that Iraq had complied with the UN resolutions and 2. That the US could have maintained that level of troops in Kuwait indefinitely to ensure Iraqi compliance.
nnjhansen 9 months ago 2
@nnjhansen ah, look at those goal posts move! you quoted blix on the lack of iraqi cooperation knowing full well that he had later testified to the opposite. that's about you, not blix and not saddam. it's about your willingness to pervert facts to make a point that has long since been discredited. no, 400 inspections wasn't enough. that's why they should have continued rather than be abruptly stopped to clear the decks for mass murder on a horrific scale.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead No moving goal posts, the goal posts were set by 'filecage,' "Hanz Blix and Muhammad El Baradi were telling the Bush Administration there were no weapons."
The mass murder took place before the US invasion, Saddam was the mass murderer.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen you just can't stop yourself can you? forget filecage. man up. you quoted blix on lack of cooperation when you knew that was superceded by later statements. that's you. as for mass murder, you know full well that repubs did nothing in response to that. and they blocked proposed sanctions against iraq in response to their war crimes in iran. btw, it's possible to have more than one episode of mass murder. and it's the one done in my name that i'm more concerned about.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead I quoted Blix in response to filecage. Try not to insert yourself into the middle of a discussion if you wish to avoid looking like an ass.
The US was not guilty of mass murder in Iraq, Saddam was. Nothing will change that.
The US invasion of Iraq was justified and the US (and Iraq) is better for having done so. Your attempt to rewrite history will not change that.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen well i gave you a couple of chances to show at least a minimal amount of honesty and integrity. that you would fail so spectacularly should surprise no one. this is a public forum. if you're going to be so willfully dishonest, you should expect to be called on it. and the invasion was not only not justified, it was a massive strategic blunder. compromising our economy, alienating countries that could help us all to create an iranian client state. failure on so many levels.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Oh please, can you back up any of these mindless talking points?
Was Iraq in violation of the Gulf War ceasefire? If yes, the war was justified. If you say no, you are delusional.
How exactly did a war which cost on average a bit over $100billion /year compromise a $13 trillion a year economy?
Which countries did it alienate?
How does a popularly elected government playing host to US forces with a US trained military qualify as an Iranian client state?
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen for your own sake, please stop. the main violation was complying with inspections, which had been rectified before our massive act of terrorism. the only justification for that war would have been a threat to us, an aggressive act by iraq or an imminent threat of mass murder by the government. none applied. your cost estimate is just the baseline (and a little low at that). CBO estimates 2.4 trillion when the interest comes due. you can add massive healthcare costs for GIs to that.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead No, the ceasefire demanded the unconditional "destruction, removal, or rendering harmless, under international supervision, of: (a) All chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities;
(b) All ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometres and related major parts, and repair and production facilities"
Not simply inspections.
You should read.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen interesting that you would quote hans blix, the same blix who has stated unequivocally that the war was illegal. and even that is a stricter standard than justified. we attacked a country that was making no aggressive moves toward anyone, that was certainly no threat to us. it was a larger act of terrorism than 9-11.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead I only quoted Blix in response to filecage. His opinion on the legality of the war is irrelevant. The war was legal under US law and international law as Iraq was in violation of their ceasefire obligations.
Your understanding of terrorism is beyond ignorant.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen i was only quoting blix when it seemed like he agreed with me (even though i willfully ignored later information that contradicted that). he's relevant when he looks like he agrees with me, irrelevant when he doesn't. got it.
what is "shock and awe" if not terrorism. shock and awe doesn't describe the accomplishment of military goals. it is literally the definition of terrorism. unless you think it's only terrorism when the other guys do it.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead I did not make a cost estimate, I stated the amount of money spent. Your assertion that the amount of money spent (a bit over $1 trillion over 9 years) compromised the US economy is absurd on its face. The cost of the failed stimulus exceeded the total cost of the war in a single year.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen so when you buy a house, you only count the down payment? i'm getting older. i can't wait for you to grow up. that would be the same stimulus that every impartial analysis has shown saved up to a full pt off unemployment and added to gdp. it would be the same stimulus that repubs blasted and then ran home to their districts to take credit for. as peter gabriel sang, the amusement never ends.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead HAve we signed a mortgage on the war?
Show me those 'impartial analyses'.
You are as economically illiterate as you are regarding the war.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen of course we have. most of the money we spent on it was borrowed and we have guaranteed massive veterans health spending because of it. analyses? try CBO, Moody's, IHS-Global Insight and a Wall Street Journal survey of 54 leading economists for starters.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead So, future healthcare spending crippled our economy? Or was it future interest payments?
By Moody's, I assume you mean Mark Zandi their chief economist (and Obama economic adviser) who predicted in Jan 09 that the stimulus would lower the unemployment rate by half a point in 6 months? That worked out well for him didn't it?
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen a) 120 billion a year in current spending isn't exactly pocket change. b) yes future debts do inhibit the economy. isn't that what your side has been screaming for 2 years? your second point isn't even up to your own staggeringly low standards of logic. because one person made a projection that didn't pan out, you attack the after-the-fact analysis of the organization AND multiple others as well? was that a better or worse prediction than that the iraq war would pay for itself?
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead a) $120billion a year in current spending in a $3 trillion budget cannot cripple a $13 trillion economy.
b) The interest on $120billion is even less significant than the principal.
c) Not only was the Moody's analysis not impartial, their chief economist was wrong regarding the stimulus. The 2010 survey of National Association of Business Economists: The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen cbo is estimating a total price tag of 2.4 trillion, not counting the extra health costs. i think obama should propose a new social spending plan that costs 2.4 trillion since it's obviously a trivial amount. on point two, congratulations, you found the outlier, a pure right-wing business organization that doesn't like govt spending. you can't see my shocked face. i'll stick with the noted left-wing rag the WSJ, where 2/3 of their economists said there was significant positive impact
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead I will take my victory on the war discussion (as evidenced by your deflection to an economic discussion) and bid you good night.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen one true rule of youtube discussions. the first person to declare victory is NEVER correct. but apparently you can lie to yourself as well as you lie to others.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Please cite the source of that rule. Even though I know it must be from your "Legend in your own mind". It seems more that the one with the most bullshit (you) wins by default. That, and the fact that most people don't care for a "one up, last word" debate. Except people like yourself. Creep.
bush1tman 9 months ago
Geez, this guy's a bully.Condoleezza is all class to go on here and allow this guy to bark at her like this.
102936 9 months ago
@102936 You're kidding, right? I always thought Condi Rice was a low-class bitch. This video confirms it.
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin Hahahahaha. Look , the toilet is calling the diamond black. LOL
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman lol good one.
KenyanImport 9 months ago
@KenyanImport See ya on Roaches place. haha
bush1tman 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin You're entitled to that opinion, and I respect it, but I came away from this video being very impressed with her.
102936 9 months ago
@102936 You obviously don't know what patriotism really means. That bitch was extremely condescending toward Mr. O'Donnell as he was rather polite. She preferred a lecture and not an interview and even threatened to end it if he did not behave the way she wanted him to. That's a bully. She behaved like since she was Secretary of State she was somehow superior to Mr. ODonnell and that he should simply listen, not interrupt her or offer any differing views.
What a bitch!
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@GoodVibezin Your entitled to your opinion, but how was she supposed to respond to such an accusation as "Would you say that was the single worst mistatement by a national security advisor publicly"? O'Donnell, unfortunately, does have a habit to slant his interviews to one political sphere, and comes off as extremely condescending. My believing this or Rice pointing this out does not have any effect on either of our patriotic beliefs. I will discuss this no further.
102936 9 months ago
@102936 I'm glad you will discuss this matter no further. Anyone who believes the war in Iraq is justifiable is a patsy. But the war in Iraq was not only an abject failure but completely illegal. If my country were run by true patriots then George W. Bush and his entire administration should be arrested and charged with treason and other high crimes and if convicted sentenced to either life without parole or death.
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
@102936 Personally, I'd like to see Bush, Cheney, and this bitch strapped to a gurney and have a needle stuck in their arm.
GoodVibezin 9 months ago
have always been surprised that she hasn't been held to account more. she is one of the great liars in american history: aluminum tubes, mushroom clouds, saddam as a threat to his neighbors and, my personal favorite, no one could have imagined planes being used as weapons. her ability to sound like she believes what she's saying is truly frightening.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Your ability to SOUND like you believe what your saying is truley frightening. I've never heard or seen a more intelligent CLASS act than Conid Rice....she laid the truth out PERFECTLY. Go Condi!!!!
windsong1a 9 months ago 3
@windsong1a you repeat my line with no factual backing whatsoever. good strategy! her lies are well-documented. if you want to go over them, we can, but it will end badly for you.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead What's truly frightening is that someone taught you to enough to be able to type on a computer. But on second thought it's not frightening at all. You are a dickless piece of driftwood. Take care.
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman people point at you and laugh a lot, don't they? that would excuse your level of anger at least. iraq was a threat to no one, they were not massed on the saudi border and you have issues that are certainly beyond my training. condi is a horrific liar. you're welcome to believe her but don't expect adults who can read to do the same.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Adults who can read who also have weak opinions are no less wobbly than ones who can not read.
Except in cases such as yourself who, as I said, can be truly frightening in that they may have some sort of power. You may point and laugh but your delusions of your own grandeur make your sense of humor suspect. You say Iraq was not a threat in the world. That's your opinion and I don't subscribe to it. Especially as it takes a rewriting of history to do so.
bush1tman 9 months ago
@bush1tman oh yes, a country with no air force, no navy, no nuclear weapons, no WMD was truly a threat. i'm thankful i'm not as easily frightened as you. we did far more damage to ourselves with this invasion than iraq ever could have done to us. the US committed an act of terrorism in our name. you may be ok with that. i'm not.
and i can't tell you how hurt i am that someone i hold in such high regard called me a creep. *sniff*
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead So by your warped definition, as al Qaeda had no army, no air force, no navy, no nuclear weapons, no WMD , they were never a threat either.
How do you define terrorism so that an armed attack my a uniformed military, operating under the command of a sovereign nation, IAW the recognized laws of war, against the armed forces of another sovereign nation qualifies as an act of terrorism?
nnjhansen 9 months ago 2
@nnjhansen you almost have a germ of a point there (a broken clock is right twice a day), but iraq had not engaged in any significant acts of terrorism toward us. as for the 2nd part, it's hard for me to believe you're serious. attacking another country with no provocation is not in accordance with anything. why would they call it shock and awe otherwise? we bombed the crap out of a country that posed no threat to us and was not engaged in any aggression. iraq had more justification vs kuwait.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead Attempting to assassinate a former President is not a significant act of terrorism? But that is beside the point, your assertion that Iraq posed no threat is simply false. If 9/11 proved anything it was that an entity with no conventional military capability was capable of inflicting great damage.
Violating a ceasefire agreement is sufficient provocation under international law.
What do you think shock and awe was that would equate it to terrorism?
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen they didn't attempt to assassinate him; they may or may not have had plans to. your hypothesis is that iraq posed a threat because anybody could have theoretically posed a threat. take a step back and try to realize how absurd that sounds. if a theoretical threat were enough, iran would certainly be justified in attacking us. we had a presidential nominee joking about bombing them and a former VP candidate and current US senator openly advocating attack.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead The people we elect to make decisions regarding who does or does not pose a threat made a judgement. They determined, based on all the available evidence that they did. You disagree, great. You did not have access to the information they had nor did you have the responsibility they did. Iraq had a very long history of posing a threat to the US, its interests, its allies, and the region. The declared policy of the US and the UN prior to Bush was that he posed a threat.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen sadly, your argument is crumbling. first, there was plenty of evidence that ran counter to their justification that was willfully ignored or excluded. the aluminum tubes fiasco for instance. they deliberately excluded the representative from the energy dept who would have contradicted rice's false claims. and you don't attack a country for what they did in the past or else we might as well attack germany and japan. iraq was no threat. inspectors were on the ground.
tishhead 9 months ago
@tishhead There was not 'plenty of evidence.' You obviously have no clue how intelligence works. The Energy Dept was the ONLY agency that disputed that the tubes were the type used for nuclear weapons and their objection was not that they were not that type but that was a possible alternate use. BTW, that alternate use ALSO violated the ceasefire. The DOE analysis was not excluded but assigned to an appendix were such an outlier analysis belongs.
The inspectors were NOT sufficient.
nnjhansen 9 months ago
@nnjhansen you lied again. imagine my shock. the analysis was that not only were the tubes not "exclusively" for weapons development as rice lied, but that they would be difficult to use in that manner. virtually every claim the bushies made was contradicted before the fact by people who were ignored and marginalized. the "outlier" opinion is now widely accepted as the truth. what does that tell you? of course, the inspectors were sufficient. because THERE WERE NO WMDS!
tishhead 9 months ago