Motorists queue ahead of China fuel price rise - 20 June 08

[lanwt]

It's a downright lie.

How can you utter such falsehoods?

[tommytommy01]

how do you know this, were you sold for sex too before?

[lc36163]

I have serious concerns about the Chinese to English translation. At 0:49, the guy says "The fuel price rise doesn't affect me that much." It's translated to "The price rise definitely affect me." I couldn't make out what the guy says after the first sentence.

[Powa2]

Yes I heard it too, The guys was smiling at 0:49 and said, the price doesn't affect me that much and the translation is, the price definitely affects me. Whoa bad translation from a news source!

[7boon]

Inflation, here we come!

[d991]

People who believe oil prices will go back to $100/barrel are uninformed.

Oil prices are what they are because world oil production has peaked. The Saudi oil summit this Sunday will be very interesting.

[mengwise36]

1. The world oil production has NOT peaked. OPEC decide NOT to increase oil production. There is a difference.

2. Based on historical data, the price of oil was 40-50/barrel in 2004. Unless you tell me that the world demand DOUBLED in the past 4 years, I would say the price is not based on demand.

3. Look at the housing market. Speculators drove the price up and now it is coming down. Save with oil. Especially if you can close the loopholes that allowed them in to begin with.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Her tone is calming. She labels the situation as calm to futher her agenda of media control and propaganda

[mengwise36]

If you are talking about CNN, I would agree with you. However, if she gets all riled up and panicky, you will probably say that she labels the situation as chaotic to further her agenda of media control and propaganda. In the very next video, they reported student protest and violence in Nepal. How would you explain that?

[teemuruskeepaa]

Media reporters don't have the liberty to express feelings. They calculate and execute in order to achieve power of coverage. AlJazeera dwells in catastrophes in order to label them as a a need for their state supporters, who come to rescue and install their administration there. The government feeds on industrial profit.

[mengwise36]

Wow, and they call me paranoid. In the case of Katrina, I would say the media did NOT cover it for the benefit of the government. Media cover too many negative things in life which is true. Positive things do not make news. Call it human nature if you will but sad news sells.

[teemuruskeepaa]

That is the 3rd way how media calculates its coverage. It judges relevance according to the profit, the continuity and the neglect. You shouldn't watch your TV, if you wanted to think freely. It's an one way outlet.

[mengwise36]

I don't watch TV. It is not because I want to think freely, but because I have 3 kids. However, I do browse CNN from time to time and learn what is happening in the world. That is why I watch these little clips from AlJazeera because they report a lot more international stuff than CNN or even BBC.

[teemuruskeepaa]

AlJazeera is nevertheless an one way outlet. American media neglects outside world unlike any other culture, because it is on top of the global media hierarchy. It has the biggest share of global consumers. Do mind that's what we all are to fascists.

[mengwise36]

"Do mind that's what we all are to fascists." Huh?

[teemuruskeepaa]

By that I mean the system. The elite runs the nation states by taxing the industrialists and supporting their total hegemony over the flow of information and economy. The fascists are the economic and the political elite who intermingle with each other to manipulate and gain from the uneducated and mislead public, who serve them. We are forced by their system to sell our labor force while they gain full control from it.

[mengwise36]

I do agree with you on that. However, what has that got to do with how calm the report was? I don't think everything in the world is completely in sync to advance the "system".

[teemuruskeepaa]

Of course it is in sync. That's how it all freaks me out. The system runs itself without our consent. This report, I think, represents the industrial owners of the flow of information.Its workers obey the rules of their occupation and make profitable,hegemony preserving or view neglecting reports because it looks like right thing to do, because it benefits their position in the hierarchy.Only one thing is done aware.The elite makes decisions according to their own needs,which is never challenged

[teemuruskeepaa]

We run the system despite the fact that it benefits the elite more than ourselves and hurts others

[mengwise36]

Of course we run the system. Most of us do not have another system to run. If you don't run it, you will be run over by it.

[mengwise36]

Not to muck you or anything but you need to take a deep breath. It is OK.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Great that you don't muck me. But it is not ok. We need revolution. This video, the reporter of AlJazeera, the whole system is a setting which denies human intellect and individual value and serves the oligarchs. You can't escape it and the more you consume it's products the more you believe you need it. This is the best cause for the revolution.

[mengwise36]

I would think the complete concentration of wealth is the best cause for revolution. No matter how much they try, they can not deny the fact that we are getting poorer and poorer.

[teemuruskeepaa]

The marxist approach is utopian and simply the result of the real problem, the problem of who gives orders and who obeys them. And the real socialist revolution is the political emancipation.

[mengwise36]

We shall see. A couple of pre-conditions have to be in place to a Marxist approach. As long as people view Marxism as "godless", as long as there is still a stabilizing middle class, the Marxist approach is not going to work, in certain countries at least.

And the key to a Marxism utopia that everyone seem to forget is that it has to be global.

[teemuruskeepaa]

So the debate has shifted from the mass media to the socialism. Another thing that everyone seem to forget is that Marxism does not mean any actual procedure like forcing out or outlawing private enterprises and it really is just a descriptive, protosociological theory about one thing, the political emancipation. Through that you get automatically rid of private enterprises. Communists are grazy if they think they can emancipate the proletariat by ruling against the bourgeiois.

[mengwise36]

Actually, communism in Marx's vision is a global society without politics and without boundaries. As long as people are still identified by their religion or nationality or class or political parties, communism will remain a vision.

[teemuruskeepaa]

All debate dies where people start quoting their POV about marxism. We must see beyond Marx and think for ourselves. Maybe we can both agree that Marxists want to organize politically and form state ownership. But they can't think futher Marx's agenda of political emancipation. Communists are just a bunch of selfish special interest groups who trip over the same concentration of capital. Another very ironic thing is how the ordinary revolutionaries follow blindly some doctrines.

[mengwise36]

To me, Marxism is an ideal, a philosophy. Just like Taoism and Buddhism and all other philosophies, it describes a vision in the future. And you are right; there is no road map on how to get there so Lenin and then Mao created their own road maps.

As long as we are not in communism utopia, Marxists are just in it for the power, power to advance their own agenda. Lincoln did not start the Civil War to free the slaves, emancipation was a by product. Marxists' goal is not to free the poor.

[teemuruskeepaa]

So tell me. Why do you think that this system is ok with a deep breath?