Gun control is a step further to disarming the American people ,the government know that this organized economic crash and super-inflation will bring people out on the streets with their guns just imagine Egypt if all the people were armed like America,This is why it is written in the Constitution that the American people have the right to arm themselves "to protect themselves from Corrupt Governments".
I swear, Giffords is probably one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I don't know what it is, but there's something about her smile that's really striking.
I think she looks better than she did last August. A year from now she could be almost completely back to looking the way she did before the shooting.
I'm English and in England, you know of our strict gun control but it's pointless.
At the end of the day if u really wanted to kill somebody u could buy an old banger (crappy old car, don't know if that translates) for £100 and mow them down in the street, buy a can of petrol.... GAS for even less and burn their house down while they're inside. u could go totally cheapskate and stab them with a broken bottle, push them out of a window or just plain strangle them.
You hit the nail on the head. All you have to do is study history a little bit, prohibition is a key example. If you outlaw something then all you're going to do is create a huge black market and only place the commodity in the hands of the outlaws.
Bullfucking goddamned shit. Giffords was attacked because a guy was nuts. He could have just as easily doused her with gasoline, skewered her with a sword or slit her throat with a knife, detonated a homemade bomb, etc. etc. She would have probably been worse off if he'd done any of those things.
The welfare state is responsible for more criminal behavior than gun laws. Stop allowing unfit sows to breed more future criminals.
sooo what im sensing here is....make guns harder to access for honest law abiding citizens like me but that will have absolutely no affect on if a drug crazed bank robber has a fully automatic ak47? which btw is already being regulated, you have to have a class 3 firearms license in most states, but look how many people have them illegally. Laws only keep honest men honest. they have little to no affect on people that "need" drugs or other illegal substances.
@kbv206 im not saying that at all, i just stating that making stricter gun laws would have no effect on criminals, just honest people. because an honest person is not going to buy a gun illegally off the black market or a shady street dealer, they are going to a gun store filling out a background check and in some cases going through a waiting period, whereas a criminal cant do that and only the dumb ones try, they will buy them illegally where the laws have no effect on them whatsoever.
@Dethsing I completely understand your point and yes,stricter gun control laws probably would not affect persistent criminals who are bent on obtaining firearms. Still, we have a duty to try to limit. Two points. First, my concern is that some of these children who are bringing guns into schools are not necessarily the children of criminal parents. Second, I think with a more robust screening process, we can still weed out some of these criminals or mentally unstable people from obtaining guns.
@kbv206 And i am seeing your point as well, to the children bringing guns to school, that is partly the parents fault, if you own a firearm you should invest in a safe or some sort of way to keep them locked up. I worked at a sporting goods store and unfortunately people would try to buy guns that they are not legally allowed to own, in that case the operator would tell us to stay on the line and the police would be dispatched and arrest them for lying on the paperwork.
@Dethsing Interesting. So in your opinion, what kind of policies should a gun vendor implement in order to better screen gun buyers? Do you think the background check is enough and what records do they check?
@kbv206 the background check and waiting period is different in each state, which is who regulates that to a certain extent. Where i live a person can buy a gun with certain misdemeanors and if they have assault on their record, as long as its not with a deadly weapon. However i do not feel very safe about that one. We had a policy that stated "if you dont feel right selling a gun to someone, you should refuse." and if there was a questionable buyer, it would be held and investigated.
Gabrielle Giffords should become a poster child for gun control. That would be her most useful role now. She is, sadly, in no condition to be a US congressperson, regardless of the emotion-laden clips of her "recovery". Her life has been destroyed by a man who should not have been allowed to carry a handgun. Period. That is the sobering message of the Gabrielle Giffords story. But do you hear any politicians talking about this angle? Of course not. They fear the NRA.
@giftedkidrules3)Switzerland is the exception, rather than the rule. They're a tiny, wealthy socialist country with a deep sense of community and responsibility, and few social problems. They're also a country of universal conscription, a militia army, and a unique recent war history of neutrality whilst being surrounded on all sides. The US has much more inequality and many more social problems than switzerland. Universal gun ownership needs a more responsible society than the US can provide.
@giftedkidrules point 2) You *should* be more like Mexico- the idea of gun control is more civilized. The fact that things are such a mess there has nothing to do with the fact they banned guns. It's because they are awash with violence as gangs fight for control of the drug trade (to supply america). One can only imagine how much worse things would be if guns were even more freely available than they already are.
@giftedkidrules Your arguments don't really make any sense. 3 Points: 1) You've just listed two examples of old fashioned barbaric ideas. I'm saying it's good to get rid of those old ideas. That's what jefferson was saying. And just because I like jefferson's modernizing ideas, doesn't mean I want to do everything he did. That's like saying if you want to write songs like michael jackson, you should also get freaky with little kids.
@giftedkidrules The need for a right to bear arms was a reflection of a brutal time, of a country that had only recently been at war with an oppressive british colonial power. However, things change. We've become a lot more civilized since then. Therefore our laws should be a lot more civilized. Everyone running around with guns is nothing short of barbarian. I agree with Thomas Jefferson.
@stagman88 But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.
Gun control will only make criminals stronger. It will give them a wide open door to strike fear in the hearts and minds of the innocent. Guns are like a double edged sword. If not careful they will cause pain, but if used right... They will keep us safe from harm. Allowing us to protect one another, prevent crime, and stop criminals in their tracks. I carry my gun everyday, and I have never had to use it. I hope I never will, but if that day comes. I would rather be prepared. Than be a victim.
Having stricter gun laws would not have prevented this crime from taking place. Crazy mother fuckers like this Jared guy can get their hands on a gun regardless of the laws.
@sk6mix Dude, how many British politicians have been shot? Of course gun control makes a difference. The less there is of something, the harder it is to get your hands on it. Surely that's not a controversial thought? No civilized country needs weapons of war freely available in grocery stores.
@WasabiMeal ... How is gun control not relevant here? She's suffering severe consequences for the rest of her life because some idiot had access to a gun with extended ammo.
Do you really think he would've done the same damage if he had to physically attack with his hands? Guns make it easy for people to do such damage. The US gun laws are a joke.
@MyTemporaryAccount88 In Germany, we have damn strict gun laws, but still people get shot. Note one thing: If guns are forbidden, people wont stop using them. The people using them are just doing something illegal then, something that wont bug a criminal.
@MyTemporaryAccount88 Sure, because stricter drug laws prevent drug abuse. It’s a known fact. Also, the fact that it only takes about 2 seconds to swap out a 10 round magazine for another 10 round magazine makes no difference. We must control everyone.
@shraka I'm from Sweden numbnuts, so I do know, and I'm telling you, gun-laws are very strict here, yet I could quite easily get a hold of a gun on the black market, almost effortlessly easy.
@giftedkidrules That may be true, but it presupposes the idea that A.) They could foresee a country in which owning guns would not be an issue and B.) the rate at which guns would evolve as a weapon. Gun-people are so obsessed over some imaginary boogie man "taking away" their guns, when there are so many other civil liberties being taken away. John Locke would differ with you, saying that it is our duty to question these principles by which we were founded; especially if they are insufficient
@tedwilli9 Freedom is also an idealization. The paradox it presents is that, by achieving it, there'd be no such thing as servitude towards someone or something. Total freedom would be anarchy. Future government or not, if it's not working it's not working. And if they were "simple" rules, we'd simply follow them, wouldn't have need for a Supreme Court. The fact is they are so complex and dated, and we cling to them so much, that we are less free by allowing the past to dictate the presen
@giftedkidrules All good points. I just don't see the relevancy any more of people saying, 'Well, I am ENTITLED to own a gun." And yes, I realise it is in our Amendments, but at some point we have to sit back and realize that freedom is not carte blanche: it is actually the opposite. It is something that should be worked for and towards. A piece of parchment, written 350 years ago, does not make me feel entitled to own, use, or operate a firearm.
Saying that the second amendment only applies to muskets and hunting rifles is like saying the first amendment only applies to the printing press so we should ban the radio, tv and Internet.
59,000,000 legal gun owners didn't shoot anyone today is all I have to say to the young turks. You can't outlaw hazards, mistakes, fallibility, exceptions, accidents, etc. That is the price of freedom. And yes, it prompts us to look at other things wrong with our society, family, education, mental health system. Tragedies always merit care of this kind. But gun control is an alarmist response this congresswoman's plight. Which wont stop Pelosi and others from propping her up to do it, etc.
@BonaventureTV I would say, overall, regardless of what happened to Gifford, that gun law's have needed reform for a while. I'm not saying you can't own one, but it should be harder to get one. The excuse that "people will get one if they want one" was never a good argument (not that you used it). I just think the laws should be stricter. You talk about hazards, mistakes, fallibility, etc. How was what he did any of those? And it's not an exception: it happens all the time!
@BonaventureTV and would it be fair to say that if someone you loved was hurt by a gun-related incident, you'd feel differently? And car-related accidents or injuries are a bogus argument as well. Those fall under the categories of hazards, mistakes, fallibility, exceptions. When a trigger is pulled there is intent. It doesn't matter if you're aiming at a deer or a coke can: the individual has full control over the object and is responsible for whatever comes out.
@valakin: When you're wrong about the first subject you're paying attention to, it doesn't really matter how many other subjects you're paying attention to, does it? Canada does not have more violent crime than the U.S. Whatever bullshit source you're getting your information from is lying to you. Every statistic I've EVER FUCKING SEEN has shown that the US has three times the violent crime than Canada. Sorry that your one little bullshit source doesn't trump the dozens I've seen, or reality.
@Celephaith Hi. Didn't want you to think I didn't care about your comment. No wait, I didn't care about your comment. Now, it could be because I'm a jerk, or it could be because I've gotten tired of people who can't read whole coversations or have the attention and memory span of a gold fish. Whatever the case may be, I've sort of moved beyond trying to reason with people who are too ignorant to look at big picture issues. Thanks for your interest though.
Damned right I'm Shameless, my Guns are not negotiable. If you take away guns, we are not talking about one crazy shooting an anti-gun politician, we are talking about many deaths. Want my gun? Come and get it!
UK, Australia have out lawed most guns. After that the gun crime is going up not down. UK has more street gun crime by street gangs and home invasion is going up. Why. Same goes for Australia. If you gun control freaks were right gun crime and violent crime would go down but it is going up.
@samten10a Care to quote any stats that prove what you just said? O wait, it's all anecdotal, because you conservative fucktards are too dumb to know what facts are. Won't even begin asking you to pay attention to the context, really. Just facts.
Jamaica has a total ban on all guns and yet they have a very high gun crime rate. The island does not manufacture guns on the island and all have all the guns have to be smuggled on to the island. Not only that but pot also has to be smuggled in also. So the gun laws do not work.
@samten10a yea, but it is legal to arrest someone with a gun in Jamaca. Without a ban police would have to wait until they witnessed a crime in progress with that gun. Guns were outlawed because of the culture of gun crime. It was one of the worst in the world. It is still bad. There is still plenty of hand gun crime but thats because security is lax. Jamaca can never be comapared with other developed countries in terms of gun control. Jamaca made a law - but the police did not "control" guns.
people will get guns regardless of the laws. even if guns were banned 100% it would be just as easy to buy guns as it would be to buy marijuanna. I think we should make it illegal to sell a gun to a mentally deranged person like jered laughner, and doing so would be the death sentence. That would make people think before they willingly hand over a gun to some crazy guy.
For those who are against gun control. I would love to hear your opinions/iseas on how to decrease gun related crimes in this country? All I hear is the same thing..."regulating the 2nd amendment wil not stop some lunatic from getting a gun" So what should we do? Should we just let it, go since there's nothing we can do about it? PS I'm not saying gun control is the answer, but somethig neds to be done.
What disgusts me the most about this entire situation is there's elements within the GOP & Tea Party that act as if she got what she deserved. Need to shoot these people in the head & make damn sure they're dead. Splatter these scumbags brains all over the place.
@lovecraftis Yes sadly there are lots of video evidence from ppl in the gop or tea party saying exactly that....some of the most notables of course being Palin with her 'just reload' approach while putting a target cross over area in the US that she disaproves of...Limbaugh calling the white house full of bastards that need to be eliminated....Beck preaching violence against other americans that don't agree with you...
I don't always comment on TYT videos, but when that annoying as heck TYT Sports promo at the end of recent videos comes up over and over on every video, I gotta say something. And that something is: Get that annoying ass clip off of your videos. It leaves such a bad taste after these videos.
@ngstylez Or just don't watch it lol. When you see it come up, exit the video. How hard is that? Seriously? They are trying to get more subscribers for the sports channel by showing a little comedy. They should stop because a few people are too stupid to use their mouse properly? Obviously not.
best response to dumbass gun touting americans ever from someone so simple as homer simpson. "If i dont have a gun, the king of England can just come in here and start pushing me around".....violent idiots
How about this. People can own two guns, one handgun, and one long gun. Magazine capacity must be less then 21 rounds. These weapons must be self-cycled or semi-auto only.
There is no reason for her to give up her house seat. Clearly she is as competent and articulate as other members of her party in congress... Loughner is crazy, everyone knows you can't kill a Democrat by shooting them in the head. Just like you can't kill a Republican by shooting them in the heart.
@lSaif, In the US, most shootings are crimes of passion between people who know each other, not criminals shooting innocents. Easy access to guns means you’re more likely to be shot by your cousin, not a criminal. Also many of the guns that the gangsters have were stolen from people who bought the gun legally, so having more ciczens with guns means more guns for criminals to steal.
@lSaif dumbest quote ever - it doesnt mean anything at all. Statistics will show the deaths caused by guns. In Ireland we have almost ZERO gun crime. only v special units of our police force are armed.
America = Gangsters with AK-47's, Tec-9's, Mac-10's, M4's, 9mm's and etc. Almost every gangster in America possesses a gun and almost all of those guns are possessed illegally.
@lSaif What are you talking about? All of the guns you mentioned are able to be possessed legally in most states. I'm not a gun guy, but I know that you can purchase an AK-74 is Cali as long as it meets certain criteria. And they stopped making Tech-9s and Mac-10s 15 years ago, so I'm not sure why you think those are still allowed if they aren't even made anymore. All the guns that "gangsters" used are bought legally through straw man purchases. Ireland gangsters use bombs, we have more dignity
@fenix9885 You can purchase them legally but criminals purchase them illegally so if they ever commit a crime or a murder it will be harder for authorities to track them down. Ireland gangsters use bombs? I doubt it. Maybe the IRA did but not your typical chav.
This just reveals how backward American society still is and the direction that the politicians are going right now just shows that there really isn't any progress made. The US isn't the only country in the world, look at this example, then check how many other first world countries have this happen. Now ask why is the US so special that this cost is worth it for the made up benefits your society gets from those guns.
I think the way the government is now. With all the police being allowed to beat the fuck out of you. The gun in your hand would seem a good idea. That was the whole point of why everyone is allowed to even have a gun.
The government then. Knew that in the future. The very thing protecting people would eventually become the force AGAINST its own people. Thus if nobody would have access to weapons. You would be an easy target.
Besides that. You can turn anything into a weapon. Even a pencil.
@ihaterobbie123 i don't support violence of any kind, but at least with hand to hand combat the only people injured are the people involved in the fight. a gun fires projectiles at high speeds, some guns fire said projectiles at a rapid fire, with that kind of a weapon, innocent people are likely to be hurt. even the owner of the gun is likely to kill themselves. guns are very powerful weapons, i believe too powerful for the average joe to just parade around with,
@deepfriedchocobo "even the owner of the gun is likely to kill themselves"
Please tell me how this is a self-evident fact. I'll tell you as a frequent handler of firearms that it's almost impossible for a gun owner to shoot themselves when using guns. Anyone with an ounce of brains can operate a firearm in a manner which ensures their own safety, to imply otherwise is ridiculous and an insult to human intelligence.
You know nothing about firearms, please stop trying to bullshit me about them.
What happened to Ms. Gifford is a tragedy. But there are children and others being shot everyday all over the U.S.A.. Lives that are lost and or changed forever, that we never hear about. This women has been used through the media to steer us away from the issues at hand.
God I like tyt but sometimes you guys are so stupid. Guns laws are there only for the people who are willing to obey them. If you outlaw guns you are taking guns away from honest citizens who own guns for protection. Somebody who is willing to go on a crazy suicide rampage is going to find a way to get a gun be it from a gun store or from the ghetto.
@qwerty7778 Your argument is the equivelant of saying we should have no traffic laws because those who are going to break traffic laws will do it anyway. Its silly if im honest.. furthermore, few people want to take away your rights to bear arms, all we are saying is it shouldnt be easy for anyone to get a gun. And if the crazies still get the guns from "the ghetto" as you say, atleast we can morally say it wasnt purchased legally.
@bjahava Comparing gun laws to traffic laws is a bad analogy since you're comparing outlawing the ownership of something vs outlawing certain actions. You can own a ferrari but that does not mean you can drive it at 200mph on the highway, the same way you can own a gun but you cannot use it to commit murder. Bottom line is making guns harder to get, hell even making guns illegal will not stop any criminal from getting one. Drugs are illegal yet a lot of people still have no trouble getting them.
@qwerty7778 Listen I dont want to get into an "analogy war" but by the same token I can say that we are allowed to drive street legal ferrari's but we are not allowed to drive F1 ferrari's, or other ferrari's capable of their full potential... And I will say again, I dont mean to take away your right to bear arms. Simply a more strict and regulated process, aka the restriction of certain types of fire arms, and more stringent application process.
try comparing our homicide rates, for example USA = 4.8; Canada = 1.9. Wouldn't make sense for our violent crime rate to be higher, right? Yeah this is all from wikipedia but I assume that's what you were using (not perfect but ok for the discussion we're having).
@valakin um, yeah i checked your number out. Here's why they don't work: The reported US violent crime rate includes only Aggravated Assault, whereas the Canadian violent crime rate includes all categories of assault, including the much-more-numerous Assault level 1 (i.e., assault not using a weapon and not resulting in serious bodily harm).[31][32] A government study concluded that direct comparison of the 2 countries' violent crime totals or rates was "inappropriate".
you know.. i don't think this is a gun control issue. I mean, the guy bought the gun legally, background check and everything. Other countries have guns and not nearly as much gun violence. I think you have to allow people the freedom to own a weapon if they please, but regulate it so that violent criminals etc cannot own them. You can't just say well this one guy went crazy so there needs to be better gun control. That really isn't the issue here. The guy really needed mental help.
@MisterDenisX No. If you mean Liberal in the free-market, John Locke sense, then, yes you would likely be pro-gun. However, being a Classical Liberal is in no way dependent upon the US Constitution, as you implied. And I wouldn't say Classical Liberals who adhere to ideals first set forth in the 1700s are "Progressive." If this is not the Liberalism you are talking about, then your argument is inconsistent. Nothing about Liberal Democracy or Social Democracy has to do with gun rights.
WOW, I had no idea how messed up her mind was. I cant believe she was allowed to vote while she is in this condition. And why is it that no one has taken her place? She is obviously in no condition to serve her role in congress. What happened to her was a bad thing without a doubt, but to let her keep her place in congress while she is in this condition is a mistake. And for the record, passing more gun laws would not prevent this from happening. Criminals can get a gun with or without the laws.
limiting the ammo capacity on guns available to the public is a massive no brainer. since when do u need a 30 bullet clip mac 10 to hunt something or protect yourself? banning all together is never gonna happen in the US ever
@Vekhematu The reason murder is illegal is because we can then prosecute someone who has committed an act of murder in a court of law. Following your logic, shouldn't we just make rape legal too...? I mean, some people will still rape and murder so why bother with laws right? We don't have laws to prevent criminals from breaking them, we have laws so that they will suffer consequences following their actions, that's the founding principle of a lawful society, and the reason why courts exist.
@BorgKing001 Since she is a self-identified progressive, yes. She probably wouldn't be opposed to changing certain outdated amendments to the constitution or perhaps adding new ones.
@BorgKing001 If you can overthrow a government and write a new constitution, you can change any amendment you want or write an entirely new one if you have enough people behind it. LOL history.
@watermelonygoodness LOL This coming from a guy who doesn't support the 2nd amendment. Go ahead and try my friend, go ahead and try. Just be sure to get your affairs in order before you do LMAO
Im curious if she even knows what happend? Does she know the little 9 year old girl got killed and all that stuff? Or have they hidden that from her because it's traumatic?
Gabby Giffords is no worse than GOP senators signing Grover Norquist pledges. She has trouble speaking and they have the inability to speak for their constituency or for themselves.
Fantasy? This was something the founders of the nation placed in the freaking constitution for that very reason. What the hell is wrong with you anti-gun tards? If the government has weapons and the people don't, the government will be able to oppress the people. Also, if the population is armed, there is LESS NEED FOR VIOLENT POLICE. It's that simple. Responsible weapon owners = lower crime rates.
Ban liberalism, leave my guns alone
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Has Giffords Appologized to Gov Palin Yet?
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mohamedtowelhead 1 week ago
*shrugs* dont see how she is worse then the other people in US politics :P
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why is she supporting sopa. isnt see ugly enough
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Gun control is a step further to disarming the American people ,the government know that this organized economic crash and super-inflation will bring people out on the streets with their guns just imagine Egypt if all the people were armed like America,This is why it is written in the Constitution that the American people have the right to arm themselves "to protect themselves from Corrupt Governments".
bladerunner123ish 4 weeks ago
I swear, Giffords is probably one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. I don't know what it is, but there's something about her smile that's really striking.
Mingchao 1 month ago
I think she looks better than she did last August. A year from now she could be almost completely back to looking the way she did before the shooting.
hermitcrab8518 1 month ago
Before the shooting, her hair was yellow. Now, somehow it is reddish brown...
TheRocky28447 1 month ago
@TheRocky28447 ..it's called hair dying, many people do it.
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nice haircut, gimpy giffords. LOL! looks like she was lobotomized. LOL!
c16gregjockca 1 month ago
this is amazing. Truely find her remarkable for this. would of been so hard to do and surrvie. Not pysical but mentaly.
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@EilidhlovesA7X "Not pysical but mentaly."
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spelling fail. are you special needs like grabby giffords too?
c16gregjockca 1 month ago
:_) im so happy for you
jacksonvillerocks 1 month ago
I'm English and in England, you know of our strict gun control but it's pointless.
At the end of the day if u really wanted to kill somebody u could buy an old banger (crappy old car, don't know if that translates) for £100 and mow them down in the street, buy a can of petrol.... GAS for even less and burn their house down while they're inside. u could go totally cheapskate and stab them with a broken bottle, push them out of a window or just plain strangle them.
If people want to kill they will
godkingRoss 1 month ago
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You hit the nail on the head. All you have to do is study history a little bit, prohibition is a key example. If you outlaw something then all you're going to do is create a huge black market and only place the commodity in the hands of the outlaws.
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@BigScooterHiney study gimps? yuck.
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@godkingRoss or you could make molotov cocktails! or hurl knives at people! YESSS!!! violence is fun! i practice on canaries.
c16gregjockca 1 month ago
Bullfucking goddamned shit. Giffords was attacked because a guy was nuts. He could have just as easily doused her with gasoline, skewered her with a sword or slit her throat with a knife, detonated a homemade bomb, etc. etc. She would have probably been worse off if he'd done any of those things.
The welfare state is responsible for more criminal behavior than gun laws. Stop allowing unfit sows to breed more future criminals.
pongespob 1 month ago
TYT gun control ? lol deleting TYT , quarantined along with fox !
ratzazz1 1 month ago
sooo what im sensing here is....make guns harder to access for honest law abiding citizens like me but that will have absolutely no affect on if a drug crazed bank robber has a fully automatic ak47? which btw is already being regulated, you have to have a class 3 firearms license in most states, but look how many people have them illegally. Laws only keep honest men honest. they have little to no affect on people that "need" drugs or other illegal substances.
Dethsing 1 month ago 7
@Dethsing Until your kid gets your stored gun and uses it. The whole "if they have them," "we should too..." argument is not a good one.
kbv206 5 days ago
@kbv206 im not saying that at all, i just stating that making stricter gun laws would have no effect on criminals, just honest people. because an honest person is not going to buy a gun illegally off the black market or a shady street dealer, they are going to a gun store filling out a background check and in some cases going through a waiting period, whereas a criminal cant do that and only the dumb ones try, they will buy them illegally where the laws have no effect on them whatsoever.
Dethsing 5 days ago
@Dethsing I completely understand your point and yes,stricter gun control laws probably would not affect persistent criminals who are bent on obtaining firearms. Still, we have a duty to try to limit. Two points. First, my concern is that some of these children who are bringing guns into schools are not necessarily the children of criminal parents. Second, I think with a more robust screening process, we can still weed out some of these criminals or mentally unstable people from obtaining guns.
kbv206 5 days ago
@kbv206 And i am seeing your point as well, to the children bringing guns to school, that is partly the parents fault, if you own a firearm you should invest in a safe or some sort of way to keep them locked up. I worked at a sporting goods store and unfortunately people would try to buy guns that they are not legally allowed to own, in that case the operator would tell us to stay on the line and the police would be dispatched and arrest them for lying on the paperwork.
Dethsing 4 days ago
@Dethsing Interesting. So in your opinion, what kind of policies should a gun vendor implement in order to better screen gun buyers? Do you think the background check is enough and what records do they check?
kbv206 4 days ago
@kbv206 the background check and waiting period is different in each state, which is who regulates that to a certain extent. Where i live a person can buy a gun with certain misdemeanors and if they have assault on their record, as long as its not with a deadly weapon. However i do not feel very safe about that one. We had a policy that stated "if you dont feel right selling a gun to someone, you should refuse." and if there was a questionable buyer, it would be held and investigated.
Dethsing 4 days ago
Gabrielle Giffords should become a poster child for gun control. That would be her most useful role now. She is, sadly, in no condition to be a US congressperson, regardless of the emotion-laden clips of her "recovery". Her life has been destroyed by a man who should not have been allowed to carry a handgun. Period. That is the sobering message of the Gabrielle Giffords story. But do you hear any politicians talking about this angle? Of course not. They fear the NRA.
Cuairtear 1 month ago
@Cuairtear You've got your head up your ass. Don't blame the NRA because violently insane people exist or because some people choose to be criminals.
pongespob 1 month ago
i feel so bad for her. wow.
LetMeFlyinPeace 2 months ago
I will vote for gun control when it actually does something about taking illegal guns off the street and leaving legal guns alone.
kelvinjavier 2 months ago
y is she looking like her head is choped off or something. did she get beat up or something. i know white peole do like ot trash talk.
also why is her hand behind her, is she dislexic?
vodkaman360 2 months ago
@vodkaman360 are you stupid..really?? you haven't followed what happened for sure..
klepetar 1 month ago
@giftedkidrules3)Switzerland is the exception, rather than the rule. They're a tiny, wealthy socialist country with a deep sense of community and responsibility, and few social problems. They're also a country of universal conscription, a militia army, and a unique recent war history of neutrality whilst being surrounded on all sides. The US has much more inequality and many more social problems than switzerland. Universal gun ownership needs a more responsible society than the US can provide.
stagman88 2 months ago
@giftedkidrules point 2) You *should* be more like Mexico- the idea of gun control is more civilized. The fact that things are such a mess there has nothing to do with the fact they banned guns. It's because they are awash with violence as gangs fight for control of the drug trade (to supply america). One can only imagine how much worse things would be if guns were even more freely available than they already are.
stagman88 2 months ago
@giftedkidrules Your arguments don't really make any sense. 3 Points: 1) You've just listed two examples of old fashioned barbaric ideas. I'm saying it's good to get rid of those old ideas. That's what jefferson was saying. And just because I like jefferson's modernizing ideas, doesn't mean I want to do everything he did. That's like saying if you want to write songs like michael jackson, you should also get freaky with little kids.
stagman88 2 months ago
@giftedkidrules The need for a right to bear arms was a reflection of a brutal time, of a country that had only recently been at war with an oppressive british colonial power. However, things change. We've become a lot more civilized since then. Therefore our laws should be a lot more civilized. Everyone running around with guns is nothing short of barbarian. I agree with Thomas Jefferson.
stagman88 2 months ago
@stagman88 But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.
stagman88 2 months ago
@stagman88 Really? More civilized now? Talk a walk with me in DC at night in the wrong neighborhood and you will see how civilized it is today.
kelvinjavier 2 months ago
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Gun control will only make criminals stronger. It will give them a wide open door to strike fear in the hearts and minds of the innocent. Guns are like a double edged sword. If not careful they will cause pain, but if used right... They will keep us safe from harm. Allowing us to protect one another, prevent crime, and stop criminals in their tracks. I carry my gun everyday, and I have never had to use it. I hope I never will, but if that day comes. I would rather be prepared. Than be a victim.
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mem11977 2 months ago
Having stricter gun laws would not have prevented this crime from taking place. Crazy mother fuckers like this Jared guy can get their hands on a gun regardless of the laws.
sk6mix 3 months ago 16
@sk6mix Dude, how many British politicians have been shot? Of course gun control makes a difference. The less there is of something, the harder it is to get your hands on it. Surely that's not a controversial thought? No civilized country needs weapons of war freely available in grocery stores.
stagman88 2 months ago
@sk6mix lies.
LetMeFlyinPeace 2 months ago
can't believe they turned this into an argument about gun control.
GTFO
WasabiMeal 3 months ago
@WasabiMeal ... How is gun control not relevant here? She's suffering severe consequences for the rest of her life because some idiot had access to a gun with extended ammo.
Do you really think he would've done the same damage if he had to physically attack with his hands? Guns make it easy for people to do such damage. The US gun laws are a joke.
MyTemporaryAccount88 3 months ago
@MyTemporaryAccount88 In Germany, we have damn strict gun laws, but still people get shot. Note one thing: If guns are forbidden, people wont stop using them. The people using them are just doing something illegal then, something that wont bug a criminal.
andromedarr 2 months ago
@MyTemporaryAccount88 Sure, because stricter drug laws prevent drug abuse. It’s a known fact. Also, the fact that it only takes about 2 seconds to swap out a 10 round magazine for another 10 round magazine makes no difference. We must control everyone.
ymp5000 2 months ago
@shraka I'm from Sweden numbnuts, so I do know, and I'm telling you, gun-laws are very strict here, yet I could quite easily get a hold of a gun on the black market, almost effortlessly easy.
MajorCoffey 3 months ago
@giftedkidrules That may be true, but it presupposes the idea that A.) They could foresee a country in which owning guns would not be an issue and B.) the rate at which guns would evolve as a weapon. Gun-people are so obsessed over some imaginary boogie man "taking away" their guns, when there are so many other civil liberties being taken away. John Locke would differ with you, saying that it is our duty to question these principles by which we were founded; especially if they are insufficient
tedwilli9 3 months ago
@tedwilli9 Freedom is also an idealization. The paradox it presents is that, by achieving it, there'd be no such thing as servitude towards someone or something. Total freedom would be anarchy. Future government or not, if it's not working it's not working. And if they were "simple" rules, we'd simply follow them, wouldn't have need for a Supreme Court. The fact is they are so complex and dated, and we cling to them so much, that we are less free by allowing the past to dictate the presen
tedwilli9 3 months ago
@giftedkidrules All good points. I just don't see the relevancy any more of people saying, 'Well, I am ENTITLED to own a gun." And yes, I realise it is in our Amendments, but at some point we have to sit back and realize that freedom is not carte blanche: it is actually the opposite. It is something that should be worked for and towards. A piece of parchment, written 350 years ago, does not make me feel entitled to own, use, or operate a firearm.
tedwilli9 3 months ago
Stricter gun regulation doesn't mean shit if obtaining a gun illegally is still easier than buying it legally.
2anime4ever 3 months ago
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Mr300milesofswellnes 3 months ago
Don't blame the guns, guns are just tools. Mechanical devices.
JCRF 3 months ago
Saying that the second amendment only applies to muskets and hunting rifles is like saying the first amendment only applies to the printing press so we should ban the radio, tv and Internet.
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
59,000,000 legal gun owners didn't shoot anyone today is all I have to say to the young turks. You can't outlaw hazards, mistakes, fallibility, exceptions, accidents, etc. That is the price of freedom. And yes, it prompts us to look at other things wrong with our society, family, education, mental health system. Tragedies always merit care of this kind. But gun control is an alarmist response this congresswoman's plight. Which wont stop Pelosi and others from propping her up to do it, etc.
BonaventureTV 3 months ago
@BonaventureTV I would say, overall, regardless of what happened to Gifford, that gun law's have needed reform for a while. I'm not saying you can't own one, but it should be harder to get one. The excuse that "people will get one if they want one" was never a good argument (not that you used it). I just think the laws should be stricter. You talk about hazards, mistakes, fallibility, etc. How was what he did any of those? And it's not an exception: it happens all the time!
tedwilli9 3 months ago
@BonaventureTV and would it be fair to say that if someone you loved was hurt by a gun-related incident, you'd feel differently? And car-related accidents or injuries are a bogus argument as well. Those fall under the categories of hazards, mistakes, fallibility, exceptions. When a trigger is pulled there is intent. It doesn't matter if you're aiming at a deer or a coke can: the individual has full control over the object and is responsible for whatever comes out.
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LibertyMega 3 months ago
@valakin: When you're wrong about the first subject you're paying attention to, it doesn't really matter how many other subjects you're paying attention to, does it? Canada does not have more violent crime than the U.S. Whatever bullshit source you're getting your information from is lying to you. Every statistic I've EVER FUCKING SEEN has shown that the US has three times the violent crime than Canada. Sorry that your one little bullshit source doesn't trump the dozens I've seen, or reality.
Celephaith 3 months ago
@Celephaith Hi. Didn't want you to think I didn't care about your comment. No wait, I didn't care about your comment. Now, it could be because I'm a jerk, or it could be because I've gotten tired of people who can't read whole coversations or have the attention and memory span of a gold fish. Whatever the case may be, I've sort of moved beyond trying to reason with people who are too ignorant to look at big picture issues. Thanks for your interest though.
valakin 3 months ago
Inspiring! But also very sad and scary....
hollidaysrain 3 months ago
Damned right I'm Shameless, my Guns are not negotiable. If you take away guns, we are not talking about one crazy shooting an anti-gun politician, we are talking about many deaths. Want my gun? Come and get it!
astrofrk 3 months ago
I live in Massachusetts, thanks for the Anti-Elizabeth Warren ad v__v
lockjawothello 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Even in her current state she is far more on top of things than much of congress.
ccm800 3 months ago
UK, Australia have out lawed most guns. After that the gun crime is going up not down. UK has more street gun crime by street gangs and home invasion is going up. Why. Same goes for Australia. If you gun control freaks were right gun crime and violent crime would go down but it is going up.
samten10a 3 months ago
@samten10a compared to us?You cant take the current economic climate and ignore it to say that changes in gun laws caused the rise.
ccm800 3 months ago
@samten10a Care to quote any stats that prove what you just said? O wait, it's all anecdotal, because you conservative fucktards are too dumb to know what facts are. Won't even begin asking you to pay attention to the context, really. Just facts.
grimordwow 3 months ago
Jamaica has a total ban on all guns and yet they have a very high gun crime rate. The island does not manufacture guns on the island and all have all the guns have to be smuggled on to the island. Not only that but pot also has to be smuggled in also. So the gun laws do not work.
samten10a 3 months ago
@samten10a
Well, Jamaican politicians are linked with Jamaican gang members and they offer all kinds of tools in order to:
1. Gain more constituents
2. Weaken their political contenders, and
3. Like Rick Perry, I can't remember the third thing....sorry, oops
wabdinur 3 months ago
@samten10a yea, but it is legal to arrest someone with a gun in Jamaca. Without a ban police would have to wait until they witnessed a crime in progress with that gun. Guns were outlawed because of the culture of gun crime. It was one of the worst in the world. It is still bad. There is still plenty of hand gun crime but thats because security is lax. Jamaca can never be comapared with other developed countries in terms of gun control. Jamaca made a law - but the police did not "control" guns.
TheReasonTroll 3 months ago
people will get guns regardless of the laws. even if guns were banned 100% it would be just as easy to buy guns as it would be to buy marijuanna. I think we should make it illegal to sell a gun to a mentally deranged person like jered laughner, and doing so would be the death sentence. That would make people think before they willingly hand over a gun to some crazy guy.
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Stevie68000 3 months ago
For those who are against gun control. I would love to hear your opinions/iseas on how to decrease gun related crimes in this country? All I hear is the same thing..."regulating the 2nd amendment wil not stop some lunatic from getting a gun" So what should we do? Should we just let it, go since there's nothing we can do about it? PS I'm not saying gun control is the answer, but somethig neds to be done.
stefers08 3 months ago
@stefers08 You should watch the Gun control episode on Penn and Teller Bullshit. He can explain it much better then I can.
ThePwnzord 3 months ago
lock up the people who use guns, the thugs, gangbangers, murderers.
hint0122 3 months ago
What disgusts me the most about this entire situation is there's elements within the GOP & Tea Party that act as if she got what she deserved. Need to shoot these people in the head & make damn sure they're dead. Splatter these scumbags brains all over the place.
lovecraftis 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@lovecraftis Yes sadly there are lots of video evidence from ppl in the gop or tea party saying exactly that....some of the most notables of course being Palin with her 'just reload' approach while putting a target cross over area in the US that she disaproves of...Limbaugh calling the white house full of bastards that need to be eliminated....Beck preaching violence against other americans that don't agree with you...
Nebbyker 3 months ago
Great point from Cenk!
BelgianBrain 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
I don't always comment on TYT videos, but when that annoying as heck TYT Sports promo at the end of recent videos comes up over and over on every video, I gotta say something. And that something is: Get that annoying ass clip off of your videos. It leaves such a bad taste after these videos.
ngstylez 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@ngstylez Or just don't watch it lol. When you see it come up, exit the video. How hard is that? Seriously? They are trying to get more subscribers for the sports channel by showing a little comedy. They should stop because a few people are too stupid to use their mouse properly? Obviously not.
BouillonCubeNoob1 3 months ago
@BouillonCubeNoob1 Hey Noob, if you don't agree with my comment, then just ignore it. How hard is that? Seriously?
ngstylez 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@ngstylez Hey noob, if you don't agree with the ending of the video, then just ignore it. Or, don't watch it at all. How hard is that? Seriously?
BouillonCubeNoob1 3 months ago
so basically she has the mental capacity of 3 republicans and she is getting better. very awesome
SRT480 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Goddamn rightwing nutjobs.
A31Chris 3 months ago
Is her mind OK? Is it a mess there, or is she as smart but just cant speak?
ArtypNk 3 months ago
Did Cenk loose some weight or get a haircut?? Damn he's looking good today!
drinkingyourcoffee 3 months ago
best response to dumbass gun touting americans ever from someone so simple as homer simpson. "If i dont have a gun, the king of England can just come in here and start pushing me around".....violent idiots
CountJimbo 3 months ago
Might as well throw out the whole constitution.
thewhiskeyrebel77 3 months ago
Right to Bear arms Ana
YaikonMetal 3 months ago
@YaikonMetal you don't deserve that right
pandasftuw 3 months ago
How about this. People can own two guns, one handgun, and one long gun. Magazine capacity must be less then 21 rounds. These weapons must be self-cycled or semi-auto only.
PoliceDepartment9192 3 months ago
The retard that shot her was a high school drop-out. And he was white.
MisledTrick 3 months ago
Isn't Cenk starting to look more and more like Elvis? ;)
SempeVeritas 3 months ago
I wish TYT would give a bit more of an intro to this video.
SempeVeritas 3 months ago
No one is saying to outlaw guns, just make it a law to lower mag size.
MrAnimated 3 months ago
electronically tag and monitor all importation of guns and fire arms. Too expensive , dont care
RalphMarx 3 months ago
Even after getting shot in the head, she is making more sense than most of US politics at the moment.
IreapsI 3 months ago 2
Her story is so sad. even that small clip made me tear up a lil
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Stevie68000 3 months ago
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There is no reason for her to give up her house seat. Clearly she is as competent and articulate as other members of her party in congress... Loughner is crazy, everyone knows you can't kill a Democrat by shooting them in the head. Just like you can't kill a Republican by shooting them in the heart.
ericluf 3 months ago
what a retard lol
bnz500 3 months ago
I'l say it again.
The mistake we have made here in the UK is that we have outlawed guns in a society which promotes gang culture. So only the gangsters have guns.
Basically....
If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.
lSaif 3 months ago
@lSaif, In the US, most shootings are crimes of passion between people who know each other, not criminals shooting innocents. Easy access to guns means you’re more likely to be shot by your cousin, not a criminal. Also many of the guns that the gangsters have were stolen from people who bought the gun legally, so having more ciczens with guns means more guns for criminals to steal.
ProblemofSuffering 3 months ago
@lSaif No the police have them .... Its not 'safer' with more guns..
stuartjamesgemmell 3 months ago
Respond to this video... One of Cenks best points.. EVER!
stuartjamesgemmell 3 months ago
@lSaif dumbest quote ever - it doesnt mean anything at all. Statistics will show the deaths caused by guns. In Ireland we have almost ZERO gun crime. only v special units of our police force are armed.
CountJimbo 3 months ago
@CountJimbo This isnt Ireland, its America.
Ireland = Gangsters with sticks
America = Gangsters with AK-47's, Tec-9's, Mac-10's, M4's, 9mm's and etc. Almost every gangster in America possesses a gun and almost all of those guns are possessed illegally.
lSaif 3 months ago
@lSaif What are you talking about? All of the guns you mentioned are able to be possessed legally in most states. I'm not a gun guy, but I know that you can purchase an AK-74 is Cali as long as it meets certain criteria. And they stopped making Tech-9s and Mac-10s 15 years ago, so I'm not sure why you think those are still allowed if they aren't even made anymore. All the guns that "gangsters" used are bought legally through straw man purchases. Ireland gangsters use bombs, we have more dignity
fenix9885 3 months ago
@fenix9885 You can purchase them legally but criminals purchase them illegally so if they ever commit a crime or a murder it will be harder for authorities to track them down. Ireland gangsters use bombs? I doubt it. Maybe the IRA did but not your typical chav.
lSaif 3 months ago
@fenix9885 Read what I wrote properly
lSaif 3 months ago
This just reveals how backward American society still is and the direction that the politicians are going right now just shows that there really isn't any progress made. The US isn't the only country in the world, look at this example, then check how many other first world countries have this happen. Now ask why is the US so special that this cost is worth it for the made up benefits your society gets from those guns.
gopalakartik 3 months ago
I think the way the government is now. With all the police being allowed to beat the fuck out of you. The gun in your hand would seem a good idea. That was the whole point of why everyone is allowed to even have a gun.
The government then. Knew that in the future. The very thing protecting people would eventually become the force AGAINST its own people. Thus if nobody would have access to weapons. You would be an easy target.
Besides that. You can turn anything into a weapon. Even a pencil.
WildBuck007 3 months ago
outlaw guns, guns are for pussies and usually kill innocent bystanders, we don't need guns
deepfriedchocobo 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@deepfriedchocobo How are you so stupid? I bet you also think it's cool to "fight like a man" with fists.
People need guns, just because YOU don't WANT a gun doesn't mean you have the right to ban everyone else from having one.
Fuck you.
ihaterobbie123 3 months ago
@ihaterobbie123 i don't support violence of any kind, but at least with hand to hand combat the only people injured are the people involved in the fight. a gun fires projectiles at high speeds, some guns fire said projectiles at a rapid fire, with that kind of a weapon, innocent people are likely to be hurt. even the owner of the gun is likely to kill themselves. guns are very powerful weapons, i believe too powerful for the average joe to just parade around with,
deepfriedchocobo 3 months ago
@deepfriedchocobo "even the owner of the gun is likely to kill themselves"
Please tell me how this is a self-evident fact. I'll tell you as a frequent handler of firearms that it's almost impossible for a gun owner to shoot themselves when using guns. Anyone with an ounce of brains can operate a firearm in a manner which ensures their own safety, to imply otherwise is ridiculous and an insult to human intelligence.
You know nothing about firearms, please stop trying to bullshit me about them.
ihaterobbie123 3 months ago
Is is just her speech or is she also mentally handicapped like she seems to be?
Parralyzed 3 months ago
What happened to Ms. Gifford is a tragedy. But there are children and others being shot everyday all over the U.S.A.. Lives that are lost and or changed forever, that we never hear about. This women has been used through the media to steer us away from the issues at hand.
righturnonly 3 months ago
God I like tyt but sometimes you guys are so stupid. Guns laws are there only for the people who are willing to obey them. If you outlaw guns you are taking guns away from honest citizens who own guns for protection. Somebody who is willing to go on a crazy suicide rampage is going to find a way to get a gun be it from a gun store or from the ghetto.
qwerty7778 3 months ago
@qwerty7778 Your argument is the equivelant of saying we should have no traffic laws because those who are going to break traffic laws will do it anyway. Its silly if im honest.. furthermore, few people want to take away your rights to bear arms, all we are saying is it shouldnt be easy for anyone to get a gun. And if the crazies still get the guns from "the ghetto" as you say, atleast we can morally say it wasnt purchased legally.
bjahava 3 months ago
@bjahava Comparing gun laws to traffic laws is a bad analogy since you're comparing outlawing the ownership of something vs outlawing certain actions. You can own a ferrari but that does not mean you can drive it at 200mph on the highway, the same way you can own a gun but you cannot use it to commit murder. Bottom line is making guns harder to get, hell even making guns illegal will not stop any criminal from getting one. Drugs are illegal yet a lot of people still have no trouble getting them.
qwerty7778 3 months ago
@qwerty7778 Listen I dont want to get into an "analogy war" but by the same token I can say that we are allowed to drive street legal ferrari's but we are not allowed to drive F1 ferrari's, or other ferrari's capable of their full potential... And I will say again, I dont mean to take away your right to bear arms. Simply a more strict and regulated process, aka the restriction of certain types of fire arms, and more stringent application process.
bjahava 3 months ago
@bjahava You did not get my analogy
qwerty7778 3 months ago
Even in that state, Giffords make more sense than any current republican runner so her future might be brighter than we thought at first.
MrG0TH1ER 3 months ago
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Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Do we really want an unarmed America?
righturnonly 3 months ago
This woman is amazing.
10thAngel 3 months ago
I feel sorry for her husband, she probably don't even remember how to suck cock
BorgKing001 3 months ago
@BorgKing001 I've been Gifford too death. But your statment is way outta line.
righturnonly 3 months ago
try comparing our homicide rates, for example USA = 4.8; Canada = 1.9. Wouldn't make sense for our violent crime rate to be higher, right? Yeah this is all from wikipedia but I assume that's what you were using (not perfect but ok for the discussion we're having).
Demarcoa 3 months ago
@valakin um, yeah i checked your number out. Here's why they don't work: The reported US violent crime rate includes only Aggravated Assault, whereas the Canadian violent crime rate includes all categories of assault, including the much-more-numerous Assault level 1 (i.e., assault not using a weapon and not resulting in serious bodily harm).[31][32] A government study concluded that direct comparison of the 2 countries' violent crime totals or rates was "inappropriate".
Demarcoa 3 months ago
you know.. i don't think this is a gun control issue. I mean, the guy bought the gun legally, background check and everything. Other countries have guns and not nearly as much gun violence. I think you have to allow people the freedom to own a weapon if they please, but regulate it so that violent criminals etc cannot own them. You can't just say well this one guy went crazy so there needs to be better gun control. That really isn't the issue here. The guy really needed mental help.
scp443 3 months ago
I`m a progressive and I am pro-gun, if you are a true Liberal and know anything about the constitution you should be pro 2nd amendment 100%.
MisterDenisX 3 months ago
@MisterDenisX No. If you mean Liberal in the free-market, John Locke sense, then, yes you would likely be pro-gun. However, being a Classical Liberal is in no way dependent upon the US Constitution, as you implied. And I wouldn't say Classical Liberals who adhere to ideals first set forth in the 1700s are "Progressive." If this is not the Liberalism you are talking about, then your argument is inconsistent. Nothing about Liberal Democracy or Social Democracy has to do with gun rights.
watermelonygoodness 3 months ago
WOW, I had no idea how messed up her mind was. I cant believe she was allowed to vote while she is in this condition. And why is it that no one has taken her place? She is obviously in no condition to serve her role in congress. What happened to her was a bad thing without a doubt, but to let her keep her place in congress while she is in this condition is a mistake. And for the record, passing more gun laws would not prevent this from happening. Criminals can get a gun with or without the laws.
TEMPEWITNESS 3 months ago
limiting the ammo capacity on guns available to the public is a massive no brainer. since when do u need a 30 bullet clip mac 10 to hunt something or protect yourself? banning all together is never gonna happen in the US ever
MrNavvy69 3 months ago 6
I Dont See A Point In Banning Anything Short Of Explosives.. The Real Criminals Can Still Get Their Hands On It
Vekhematu 3 months ago
@Vekhematu The reason murder is illegal is because we can then prosecute someone who has committed an act of murder in a court of law. Following your logic, shouldn't we just make rape legal too...? I mean, some people will still rape and murder so why bother with laws right? We don't have laws to prevent criminals from breaking them, we have laws so that they will suffer consequences following their actions, that's the founding principle of a lawful society, and the reason why courts exist.
CaptainCarrotify 3 months ago
Outlawing Rape Doesnt Give Criminals A Tactical Advantage.. Outlawing Guns Does
Vekhematu 3 months ago
I guess Ana wants to pick and chose which constitutional amendments she wants to support.
BorgKing001 3 months ago
@BorgKing001 Since she is a self-identified progressive, yes. She probably wouldn't be opposed to changing certain outdated amendments to the constitution or perhaps adding new ones.
watermelonygoodness 3 months ago
@watermelonygoodness you can't change the first 10 dumbass
BorgKing001 3 months ago
@BorgKing001 Yes you can.
watermelonygoodness 3 months ago
@watermelonygoodness LOL foreigners
BorgKing001 3 months ago
@BorgKing001 If you can overthrow a government and write a new constitution, you can change any amendment you want or write an entirely new one if you have enough people behind it. LOL history.
watermelonygoodness 3 months ago
@watermelonygoodness LOL This coming from a guy who doesn't support the 2nd amendment. Go ahead and try my friend, go ahead and try. Just be sure to get your affairs in order before you do LMAO
BorgKing001 3 months ago
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BorgKing001 3 months ago
SHE IS A CORPORATIST BLUE-DOG-DEMOCRAT AND A NEOCONSERVATIVE.
WE DO NOT NEED CORPORATE-OWNED RIGHT-WINGERS LIKE HER IN CONGRESS.
halcyon0830 3 months ago
SHE
IS
A
NEOCON
BLUE-DEMOCRAT
SHE NEEDS TO GET OUT OF CONGRESS BECAUSE SHE IS JUST LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN.
halcyon0830 3 months ago
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Well, the only way she can speak coherantly, is in song. So I'm sure she will be alowed back in congress and will sing anything she needs to say.
* (in song) "Mr, speakerrr...will you yeild the floorrrr?"
*Should be interesting
calimar28 3 months ago
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calimar28 3 months ago
Im curious if she even knows what happend? Does she know the little 9 year old girl got killed and all that stuff? Or have they hidden that from her because it's traumatic?
calimar28 3 months ago
Gabby Giffords is no worse than GOP senators signing Grover Norquist pledges. She has trouble speaking and they have the inability to speak for their constituency or for themselves.
Keep her in Congress.
mundie33 3 months ago
I seriously hope they don't let her back into Congress.
colorblindvids 3 months ago
@colorblindvids Why?
watermelonygoodness 3 months ago in playlist Autres vidéos de TheYoungTurks
@watermelonygoodness Why? Because I don't want a woman with brain damage on the board that helps run the country, thats why.
colorblindvids 3 months ago
1:27 Cenk, what are you looking at...?
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@MrAnimated I like tits.....lol
mrgetrealpeople 3 months ago
@MrAnimated Nah, don't think so. I don't think you're really seeing what you think you are.
Ryan9145X 3 months ago
Misleading title & as funny as a pile of flaming dead baby orphans in clown suits.
arellanochrisatgmail 3 months ago
Huh...Except that the NRA does represent a huge segment if not the majority of the electorate. Gun control is not what the American people want.
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HellerDon 3 months ago
@dinex2
Fantasy? This was something the founders of the nation placed in the freaking constitution for that very reason. What the hell is wrong with you anti-gun tards? If the government has weapons and the people don't, the government will be able to oppress the people. Also, if the population is armed, there is LESS NEED FOR VIOLENT POLICE. It's that simple. Responsible weapon owners = lower crime rates.
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jonesldi 3 months ago
Obviuosly she won't come back.
Sorry for her.
jimalbi 3 months ago
If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.
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