0:22 This is the worst thing about using the Japanese keyboard. The ' and " keys are in the number line and the * key is where they should be. So I am constantly using the asterisk by mistake. Even worse, I was at a hostel in Ginza once that had this layout, but with a keyboard marked in the standard layout. I was so confused.
i have a french canadian keybord on my computer. i just had to get japanese so whenever i want to write something in japanese, i just click on language on the top of my screen, select hiragana and it works the same way, except i have to type it with letters(k+a=か) pretty simple.
i figured they would have something like that for keyboards seeing how we have the same thing for our alphabet. also, i was wondering, how do japanese look up a kanji in a dictionary? say you are reading a book or something and you came across a kanji that you don't know. how are you able to find the meaning of that kanji? we use latin letters and the words in a dictionary are sorted alphabetically, but how will a japanese dictionary be structured?
@vladsonofsam i'm not an expert but i know they can use a couple of different ways to search for them. first, the number of strokes, and also the kanji's keys. the keys are the elements of the kanjis witch carry meanings on their own.
@jodelle6 I asked my parents first. lol. In order to look up the meaning of an unknown kanji by the number of strokes, you would have to know how the strokes are counted. And that could be really tricky. Man, Japanese is bizar isn't it?
@keiandmic it's not tricky for an actual japanese person, they know very well the logic of kanji. even if they don't know one, they can easilly figure out the strokes, no problem.
yeah japanese is an easy language to learn, but their writing is one of the more complicated in the world!
@jodelle6 I AM an actual Japanese person. I was born and raised there. I happen to speak English too. You can't guess the number of strokes by the kanji's appearance. A horizontal line can continue to vertical line. And it is 1 stroke instead of 2 as it seems. 口 is 3 strokes. 永 is 7. Although "figuring out" was NOT difficult, still it certainly was NOT easy either.
@keiandmic i'm sorry. i am only repeating what i was taught. unless i was lied to, kanji dictionnary exist and they are working like i explained. if i am mistaking, please correct me.
This is amazing! Definitly the thing i was trying to figure out! We can just buy a nice gaming desktop computer, and if we wish to type in English, we can select it! Never knew that :) Heck, i wasn't even aware of the fact that the keys even have the American Alphabet printed on them :D Thank you!
Great video. Actually, the same typing input method is used with Chinese as well, not just Japanese. I don't know who first came up with it though. Yet, I reckon it will make your typing slower than in English as you have to wait for each word to be converted to Kanji, but it is modern in the way that they must have a large languistic database of frequently-used words.
@EWGFus3r first learn hiragana and katakana.. that's the first step.. and i mean pure memorization there. It can take days or even weeks for them to get inside one's brain.. but once u practice a lot it eventually becomes easier
Now my question is... How did they do it in the 80's and earlier? I imagine an MSX would be too slow and restricted for that sort of thing. Typewriters?
So I have an unlocked Blackberry phone, Would I be able to bring it over to use in Japan (Like go and get a sim card or something at Docomo,Softbank etc )or would I need to purchase a whole new phone ?
I hope not ,I'd hate to have to buy a whole new blackberry simply because I'll be in another country >.<
@AgathaBeso123 Actually not that hard, it was harder to learn French than japanese, and my mother language is portuguese which has a little connection to latin, thus fFrench too.
Back in the 1980s, people tended to associate Japan with the most advanced technology in terms of computers, but they would have been surprised to learn that adoption of personal computers in Japan actually lagged far behind the West due to the difficulties in adapting computer keyboards to the language.
As this video shows, more powerful computers overcame this. You can see how the use of preemptive text would have been a problem in the 1980s era computers.
This proves Japan is awesome not sounding mean but fuck America I'm moving to Japan when I grow up and learning there language =D they also have the best video games over there D:
@TheMetalfreak360 for vista u go to control panel, there u go "region and language", there u go to "keyboards and languages", there is a button "change keyboard". if u click it, it opens a window where u can add language to the one u have and choose keyboardlayouts for that. under keyboardlayout if u go properties of microsoft IME u can configure inputmodi, autocorrection, and so on.
@TheMetalfreak360 to change inputlanguage u have to use quickkeys(u can choose them where u can add new languages) or u just change with mouse in taskpanel. near clock will be EN for english keyboardlayout just click it and u will see menue with languages u have activated or added to the menue. my menue has for example english, german, russian and japanese in there. standard quickkey for changing is alt + shift. with that u change to the next language in the list.
Very cool, I have the same sort of thing (except of course for the symbols being on my keyboard) on my toolbar, right now it says EN for English and i can click it and select JP for Japanese and type something like and then select Hiragana, "Full-width Katakana", and so on (don't really know what that means, or the difference between the two, unfortunately) and type something like ビデオおありがと！Sorry if that doesn't mean anything, I used Google Translator haha! Meant to say 'Thank you for the video!"
I set my Mac up with Japanese language support. I touch the American flag in the menu bar and select the hiragana. If I hit the space bar it prompts for the kanji. Pretty cool!
I always wondered how those worked too, thanks for that!
@SpookMrsSpooky I have the same interface with my Mac Book. There's also a new free app called Free Translator that can translate any text into English by simply dragging the text to its icon. It's a pretty nifty app available in the App Store.
I tried iBus on Linux based on someone's tip here. Thanks. It's pretty handy - I press Ctrl + space and it switches from normal writing to Japanese writing. I have a Finnish/Swedish keyboard and this appears to be no problem for writing Japanese pretty quickly assuming that I know the word in Rōmaji. A tip for Debian Squeeze users: run "apt-get install ibus-anthy" and you'll get iBus and Japanese package for it. You also need fonts though so search the repository for 'japanese' and install them
Found out about this channel but a few days ago, and now Im addicted to your videos, you have too many. But your message you typed in the phone. In Romaji is Okosotonohomo akai uta-kin kotoba nayamashi most I can make is; Red Gold Tease Song Lyrics Okosotonohomo. Auto fill in FAIL, just like american phones. Keep them videos Coming. Subscribed!
I've been waiting for this one! As a geek, I managed to obtain a Japanese keyboard a few years back. I can type pretty well in Japanese considering I know almost nothing of the language. My only problem with Japanese keyboards are the Enter keys, they are tall, which moves some other keys around. Excellent video!!
There is a way to do this without a Japanese keyboard on PC. It's somewhere in the language settings. You write in "ra" and ら will appear, then all the options after that scroll through with space bar, and enter/return to select it. iPhones have it too.
@GaijinAbroad - with the japanese one its more or less a built in function on the keyboard - the laptop i use at work has a key near the tab button and another one by the spacebar to switch between hiragana, katakana and romaji (used to write in english)...the amount of times i catch the one by the space bar...i use a mac at home and you can change this by adding extra languages and then switching between them - you can also bring up a character viewer
Yep, Microsoft IME does it. Much easier for people familiar with the QWERTY keyboard to type with IME than with a Japanese keyboard (especially if you don't have a physical Japanese keyboard). In Windows 7, at least (for those who are interested), it's in Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Keyboards and Languages. Click "Change keyboards...", "Add", scroll down to Japanese and select Microsoft IME. Then you can ひらがな ＡＮＤ カタカナ till the cows come home. ʘ‿ʘ
what he wrote at 3:54 is pure nonsense... and he's fooling people who cant read japanese... but no my good sir you wont fool me into punching that Like button haha
There is a certain level of preemptiveness but you forgot to mention that the simple core of the system is that when you write a pronounciation of a word it lists basically all possible writings for it, with the most common in top. As japanese have few syllables especially short words like "kyou" for example alone makes a pop up of 53 kanji.
Of course, as you write in context and continuing to longer words, the list adapts as you go, as can be seen in the video.
That would make me so angry. It looks like it takes forever and I am way too easily frustrated. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND....when I got my first phone (flip phone) It made me so angry and it took FOREVER. And I hated that phone at first. Then I got my touch screen. Guess what? It took forever and made me ANGRY and I hated it at first.
I know that "emailing" in Japanese would drive me crazy but all new phones do! Just gotta suck it up.
So i've finally watched all of the "How to:" videos and i'll just have to say you're doing a very good job and it's quite interesting to listen to, and i'll try to say this in the least creepy way possible but you have a very nice voice to listen to, it's quite soothing actually.
@dylandior123 You can use romaji-based IME too. You just write the word in phonetic western alphabet and the computer gives you a list of options in kanji or kana depending. A little slower but easier for us dumb westerners ;)
there's one thing which I think has not been mentioned: most people in the west are familiar with the Hepburn romanization (which approximately copies the pronunciation). a much better and faster way to type on a keyboard is ワープロ romanization which allows you to input ち、し、つ simply as TI, SI or TU.
@cloudstrifeification the iphone or any android device fully supports Japanese input, no need to buy an imported phone that won't work properly in your cellular network.
@brabon1 That's what I've heard, and some of my Japanese friends say/experience it as well. Even I can write text messages in kanji, but if you ask me to write the kanji out there are times when I can't. I can only recognize it.
@TheJapanChannelDcom - wait...is hichicona and ichicona another way of saying hiragana and katakana or did you just take a wild stab in the dark that that is what hes on about...im confused
@BDtetra actually, there is a separation on that one. People in their late 30's and above were taught to type with the Japanese characters on the keyboard. Using "romaji" to type is for the younger generation. Quick note, it is "romaji" not "romanji"
you should also have mentioned that most people actually don't use the written Hiragana on the keyboard method. They usually input with the sound like HI for ひ and RYU for リュ
Those systems will even become more easier to use in the future, due to more intelligent systems. You will be able to sort out some words, which doesn't make sense in the current sentence, as soon as programs will be able to understand written text.
Excellent, thanks Mr JCD. I watched some people typing on their phones when on the subway in Tokyo, and kind-of worked out how it was working, but this has given me a very clear demonstration of exactly how it works. Good job!
And very clever work for the software composers! The intricacies of kanji & kana would make this a demanding task!
wow that is so confusing. just watching you type in Japanese confuses me. Although I'm sure you get used to it like English. although I hate when English does that because is changes my words
Western keyboards also support this sort of input mode. Check your language and keyboard settings to adjust it. You can have several input modes to choose from and resetting it to a different one with just one click on the mouse. I can switch between English, Dutch and Japanese.
LOl I have had previous with japanese keyboards.I was able to find how to change it for Romanji but it did keep changing itself to japanese a lot.If you use windows on a pc in japan and like me you can't read Japanese i found everything was pretty much in the same place on the screen so you can guess the controls quite easy.
@TheTikology, flip phones are very cool. like where have you been man. they are like the coolest thing ever. Bar phones are ok but then you need a case to prevent buttons from being pushed or a case to protect the screen.
I guess they had too many accidental phone calls, you know those like calling from the toilet in the bar drunk and while peeing while the phone is in the pocket of the trousers. I had friends call me like that a couple of times because my name is first on the alphabetic list and when they press it accidentally it tends to take the first name from the list. The flip phones solve this problem :-)
You didn't explain typing on a Japanese keyboard properly. You said that they press the keys with Kana on them and then it predicts what they might want to say. However, most people (including the guy in the video) type Japanese using Romaji. For example, for "sushi," they would type S-U-S-H-I in English. When they type "SU," the hiragana す appears, and when they type "SHI," the hiragana し appears. In order to display the Kanji, they'd hit the space bar, and it would become 寿司.
@savetherocks That's what I was going to say until I read your comment. I think that it's easier to just type Japanese with the English keyboard (Romanji) because I already know where everything is. Of course, that's just because I'm used to it as he mentioned in the video.
@SilentDeath901 It's not just because you're more used to it, it's a more efficient way of typing. This is especially true for typing abnormal Katakana compounds such as ディ. That's why most Japanese people use Romaji instead of Kana input.
Hey there Mr. JapanChannel, nice and informative video you just made there, but there's only one little mistake you made. I believe it is pronounced Romaji (ローマ字) and not Romanji (ローマソ字). A very common mistake I might add, even among Japanologists. Sorry for being a bit of a nitpick here, but I hear this allot nowadays, so I thought to let the people know.
Both words are accepted actually. Like the english language has some words that use different spelling for the same word such is the case for japan as well!!
But don't take my word for it. I'm just speculating since that's what some of the natives have been saying to me. It might differ from area to area.
My computer doesn't give me options of words to choose from when I type. My cell phone does so I know what it is. It's like Auto Correct but I don't have that on my computer. I have to type out the entire word. If I spell the word wrong, it gets a line under it and I can click on the word to select the proper spelling. That's as far as my choices go. Great video. I'd love to have a Japanese keyboard.
I have this on my iPhone! :O you just have to select the international keyboard setting and you can pick which kind of keyboards you want to have. I have a Japanese one just because of the cute faces ♪( ´▽｀) -- like this one
On OS X it's real easy to do it on English keyboards by typing the romaji, and it types the kana for that but it's nice to see an actual japanese keyboard. ありがとう。
And even though there are hiragana on the keyboards, people prefer to type out words with the roman letters rather than hitting the key with the hiragana they are typing, right?
This is interesting. I thought Japanese keyboards were configured entirely in Japanese only. I didn't think that Roman characters would be at the center of each key. How incredibly fascinating! I guess you learn something new every day on YouTube---or, at least, I do. :D
@1958boomergirl there are two input types: 仮名入力 (kana) and ローマ字入力 (romaji), most people use the latter, which is basically a normal qwerty layout. there are also some extra keys like 変換 (conversion, typically in the spacebar position)、無変換 (no conversion) and カナ/かな (katakana/hiragana).
I don't use the Microsoft IME but I don't think it has any text prediction. Google Japanese input is much better as it can fetch input data from the Internet, really useful when you need to input surnames etc.
are there any programs you know of that you can send something in English and it will translate it into Japanese? do people who have their phones set to Japanese receive messages in English or will it convert the message to their selected language ?
It must be hard to read the kanji on low-res screens.
TheDecadeMoon 16 hours ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
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mariellcaiu92bs 2 days ago
The japanese are stupid they should adapt the latin alphabet , would be much more efficient !
chabi3000 4 days ago
@chabi3000 you are stupid. i'm glad not everyone thinks like you.
jodelle6 2 days ago
I can't believe I missed this video.
Are you still able to type the "~" key in Japanese keyboards? I noticed that the key to switch to romaji was replacing it.
TheMiddleNewton 5 days ago
Oh man it's gonna be hellish to learn the Japanese layout after using the Finnish one for so so long time :S
Nikotiini69 2 weeks ago
0:22 This is the worst thing about using the Japanese keyboard. The ' and " keys are in the number line and the * key is where they should be. So I am constantly using the asterisk by mistake. Even worse, I was at a hostel in Ginza once that had this layout, but with a keyboard marked in the standard layout. I was so confused.
orz4567891 2 weeks ago
I punched the "Like" button. Tried many time. My hand hurt. ;_:
jpnmusic2 2 weeks ago
i have a french canadian keybord on my computer. i just had to get japanese so whenever i want to write something in japanese, i just click on language on the top of my screen, select hiragana and it works the same way, except i have to type it with letters(k+a=か) pretty simple.
jodelle6 1 month ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
@jodelle6
i have the exact same thing,lol. not so helpful if you don't know the right kanji, though.
310BPM 3 weeks ago
@310BPM you can always check the kanjis on google translate or some other site to see if they are the right ones =)
jodelle6 3 weeks ago
@jodelle6
well yeah, but it takes forever to type something up if you're forever looking them up.
310BPM 3 weeks ago
@310BPM yes, that too
jodelle6 3 weeks ago
They should add dictation like the iPhone 4s has, it would be more efficient.
彼らが持っているiPhone 4Sのようなディクテーションを追加すれば、より効率的です。
zsdg34 1 month ago
I'd rather click the like button rather than punching it - I like my computer screen ;)
TrickThePat 1 month ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
does all the phones look same ??
yoremkastor 1 month ago
i figured they would have something like that for keyboards seeing how we have the same thing for our alphabet. also, i was wondering, how do japanese look up a kanji in a dictionary? say you are reading a book or something and you came across a kanji that you don't know. how are you able to find the meaning of that kanji? we use latin letters and the words in a dictionary are sorted alphabetically, but how will a japanese dictionary be structured?
vladsonofsam 1 month ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
@vladsonofsam i'm not an expert but i know they can use a couple of different ways to search for them. first, the number of strokes, and also the kanji's keys. the keys are the elements of the kanjis witch carry meanings on their own.
jodelle6 3 weeks ago
@jodelle6 I asked my parents first. lol. In order to look up the meaning of an unknown kanji by the number of strokes, you would have to know how the strokes are counted. And that could be really tricky. Man, Japanese is bizar isn't it?
keiandmic 2 days ago
@keiandmic it's not tricky for an actual japanese person, they know very well the logic of kanji. even if they don't know one, they can easilly figure out the strokes, no problem.
yeah japanese is an easy language to learn, but their writing is one of the more complicated in the world!
jodelle6 2 days ago
@jodelle6 I AM an actual Japanese person. I was born and raised there. I happen to speak English too. You can't guess the number of strokes by the kanji's appearance. A horizontal line can continue to vertical line. And it is 1 stroke instead of 2 as it seems. 口 is 3 strokes. 永 is 7. Although "figuring out" was NOT difficult, still it certainly was NOT easy either.
keiandmic 1 day ago
@keiandmic Oops, 永 is 5.
keiandmic 1 day ago
@keiandmic i'm sorry. i am only repeating what i was taught. unless i was lied to, kanji dictionnary exist and they are working like i explained. if i am mistaking, please correct me.
jodelle6 1 day ago
This is amazing! Definitly the thing i was trying to figure out! We can just buy a nice gaming desktop computer, and if we wish to type in English, we can select it! Never knew that :) Heck, i wasn't even aware of the fact that the keys even have the American Alphabet printed on them :D Thank you!
WaterCrystalline 2 months ago
thau shault not text
TheTechBite 3 months ago
Great video. Actually, the same typing input method is used with Chinese as well, not just Japanese. I don't know who first came up with it though. Yet, I reckon it will make your typing slower than in English as you have to wait for each word to be converted to Kanji, but it is modern in the way that they must have a large languistic database of frequently-used words.
realessence 3 months ago
Thank you!!! I was SO curious about typing on the computer. ^_^
AwkwardAndAwesome 3 months ago
I just don't get tired of your videos.
CruzzioXT 3 months ago
So complicated...lol
JeffStaples1982 3 months ago
how do you even start learning to read in japanese if you are a foreigner?
EWGFus3r 3 months ago
@EWGFus3r first learn hiragana and katakana.. that's the first step.. and i mean pure memorization there. It can take days or even weeks for them to get inside one's brain.. but once u practice a lot it eventually becomes easier
heyjeySigma 3 months ago
Now my question is... How did they do it in the 80's and earlier? I imagine an MSX would be too slow and restricted for that sort of thing. Typewriters?
ufee 4 months ago
"English" pc's can be adjusted to work in this way. :-)
FHomeBrew 4 months ago
i punched the like button and broke the screen, now im in another computer =P
Sal3050 4 months ago
its basically autocorrect thats on 24/7 i couldnt type like that, i hate autocorrect on my phone... and i only use that every now n again to text...
MaxamillionGat 4 months ago
Thank you for these videos! I'm exchanging to Japan in March, and you've helped me be so much more prepared (:
KumoTheTurtle 4 months ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
So I have an unlocked Blackberry phone, Would I be able to bring it over to use in Japan (Like go and get a sim card or something at Docomo,Softbank etc )or would I need to purchase a whole new phone ?
I hope not ,I'd hate to have to buy a whole new blackberry simply because I'll be in another country >.<
MizzWizlette 5 months ago in playlist How to do stuff in Japan!
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Tenshouification 4 months ago
I cant imagine how hard it is to learn this language
AgathaBeso123 6 months ago
@AgathaBeso123 Actually not that hard, it was harder to learn French than japanese, and my mother language is portuguese which has a little connection to latin, thus fFrench too.
hoylguy11 5 months ago
your channel is a big treasure, i'm definitely stuck to it and be the follower till the end of times hahha)thank you!
kateDAbomb 8 months ago 52
Back in the 1980s, people tended to associate Japan with the most advanced technology in terms of computers, but they would have been surprised to learn that adoption of personal computers in Japan actually lagged far behind the West due to the difficulties in adapting computer keyboards to the language.
As this video shows, more powerful computers overcame this. You can see how the use of preemptive text would have been a problem in the 1980s era computers.
gillianorley 8 months ago
This proves Japan is awesome not sounding mean but fuck America I'm moving to Japan when I grow up and learning there language =D they also have the best video games over there D:
MilesTailsPrower2008 9 months ago
if you type pen the computer offers you pen or pencil or other words like pen......is?
niggardlyname 9 months ago 27
What about QWERTY keyboard phones o:
Would the have the same exact keyboard as a pc? meaning then hira/kana below them
OhSixteenCandles 9 months ago
Japan makes cell phones?????? LOL
Mayplestory1 9 months ago
Nice videos
DtorBillAgain 9 months ago
Hey, always with smart vids, thanks and hope you are doing goog.
mitternacht07 9 months ago
just activate japanese keyboard on ur own computer and have fun and see how it works :) u need perhaps 5 clicks to aktivate, so whats the problem?
ILoveSoImAlive 9 months ago
@ILoveSoImAlive ? How can one change to japanese keyboard if one have american or europeen keyboard?
TheMetalfreak360 9 months ago
@TheMetalfreak360 for vista u go to control panel, there u go "region and language", there u go to "keyboards and languages", there is a button "change keyboard". if u click it, it opens a window where u can add language to the one u have and choose keyboardlayouts for that. under keyboardlayout if u go properties of microsoft IME u can configure inputmodi, autocorrection, and so on.
other windowssystems will be similar.
ILoveSoImAlive 9 months ago
@TheMetalfreak360 to change inputlanguage u have to use quickkeys(u can choose them where u can add new languages) or u just change with mouse in taskpanel. near clock will be EN for english keyboardlayout just click it and u will see menue with languages u have activated or added to the menue. my menue has for example english, german, russian and japanese in there. standard quickkey for changing is alt + shift. with that u change to the next language in the list.
ILoveSoImAlive 9 months ago
Very cool, I have the same sort of thing (except of course for the symbols being on my keyboard) on my toolbar, right now it says EN for English and i can click it and select JP for Japanese and type something like and then select Hiragana, "Full-width Katakana", and so on (don't really know what that means, or the difference between the two, unfortunately) and type something like ビデオおありがと！Sorry if that doesn't mean anything, I used Google Translator haha! Meant to say 'Thank you for the video!"
isuckatguitar12 10 months ago
@isuckatguitar12 *JP for Japanese and then select Hiragana*
isuckatguitar12 10 months ago
I love the japanese channel
gohanDaniel1 10 months ago
it would be funning to me if someone say they push the dislike button, and i really one to see how many thumb up they get
gohanDaniel1 10 months ago
My life is complete, now I know :D
Arwinbell 10 months ago
I set my Mac up with Japanese language support. I touch the American flag in the menu bar and select the hiragana. If I hit the space bar it prompts for the kanji. Pretty cool!
I always wondered how those worked too, thanks for that!
SpookMrsSpooky 10 months ago
@SpookMrsSpooky I have the same interface with my Mac Book. There's also a new free app called Free Translator that can translate any text into English by simply dragging the text to its icon. It's a pretty nifty app available in the App Store.
lordkremlore 10 months ago
@SpookMrsSpooky Command + Space works amazingly too. ;)
K9J01 10 months ago
Gotta wonder, which language is the easiest to type?
localHazzard 10 months ago
@localHazzard
Hiragana i think. I pretty much learned half of the entire set in one night if i remember correctly.
Valentine1507 10 months ago
Maybe Japanese's cell phone is most complicated all over the world.
that is because
to write the Japanese language usually mixes with ひらがな, 漢字, and カタカナ.
( -_-)o
1103mix1103 11 months ago
i tried to punch the like button multiple times
coolboy56574 11 months ago
Do you need some programs to type in japanese......
PyrimidKingJindai 11 months ago
I tried iBus on Linux based on someone's tip here. Thanks. It's pretty handy - I press Ctrl + space and it switches from normal writing to Japanese writing. I have a Finnish/Swedish keyboard and this appears to be no problem for writing Japanese pretty quickly assuming that I know the word in Rōmaji. A tip for Debian Squeeze users: run "apt-get install ibus-anthy" and you'll get iBus and Japanese package for it. You also need fonts though so search the repository for 'japanese' and install them
reshjuk 11 months ago
Found out about this channel but a few days ago, and now Im addicted to your videos, you have too many. But your message you typed in the phone. In Romaji is Okosotonohomo akai uta-kin kotoba nayamashi most I can make is; Red Gold Tease Song Lyrics Okosotonohomo. Auto fill in FAIL, just like american phones. Keep them videos Coming. Subscribed!
n00b240sx 11 months ago
I'd really like to purchase a Japanese keyboard some time in the future. This will help me a lot, thank you. :-)
Biohazardkittens 11 months ago
I've been waiting for this one! As a geek, I managed to obtain a Japanese keyboard a few years back. I can type pretty well in Japanese considering I know almost nothing of the language. My only problem with Japanese keyboards are the Enter keys, they are tall, which moves some other keys around. Excellent video!!
Flargenyargen 11 months ago
There is a way to do this without a Japanese keyboard on PC. It's somewhere in the language settings. You write in "ra" and ら will appear, then all the options after that scroll through with space bar, and enter/return to select it. iPhones have it too.
GaijinAbroad 11 months ago
@GaijinAbroad - with the japanese one its more or less a built in function on the keyboard - the laptop i use at work has a key near the tab button and another one by the spacebar to switch between hiragana, katakana and romaji (used to write in english)...the amount of times i catch the one by the space bar...i use a mac at home and you can change this by adding extra languages and then switching between them - you can also bring up a character viewer
JeremyScottThompson 11 months ago
@GaijinAbroad
Yep, Microsoft IME does it. Much easier for people familiar with the QWERTY keyboard to type with IME than with a Japanese keyboard (especially if you don't have a physical Japanese keyboard). In Windows 7, at least (for those who are interested), it's in Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Keyboards and Languages. Click "Change keyboards...", "Add", scroll down to Japanese and select Microsoft IME. Then you can ひらがな ＡＮＤ カタカナ till the cows come home. ʘ‿ʘ
t3hpyr0x 11 months ago
@animegrlnippon Windows have that by default.
montagnesy 11 months ago
I fixed one of these laptops at my shop :)
zaxinou 11 months ago
cool
finalfantasy4everock 11 months ago
what he wrote at 3:54 is pure nonsense... and he's fooling people who cant read japanese... but no my good sir you wont fool me into punching that Like button haha
heyjeySigma 11 months ago
Making my head hurt...
dustbunster95 11 months ago
There is a certain level of preemptiveness but you forgot to mention that the simple core of the system is that when you write a pronounciation of a word it lists basically all possible writings for it, with the most common in top. As japanese have few syllables especially short words like "kyou" for example alone makes a pop up of 53 kanji.
Of course, as you write in context and continuing to longer words, the list adapts as you go, as can be seen in the video.
fsvooo 11 months ago
That would make me so angry. It looks like it takes forever and I am way too easily frustrated. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND....when I got my first phone (flip phone) It made me so angry and it took FOREVER. And I hated that phone at first. Then I got my touch screen. Guess what? It took forever and made me ANGRY and I hated it at first.
I know that "emailing" in Japanese would drive me crazy but all new phones do! Just gotta suck it up.
sorasgirl0 11 months ago
oh gosh the preset hiragana buttons on the keyboard are all in seemingly random order. I could never use that input method 0.0
slaiyfershin 11 months ago
Cooool :) It always was curious for me to watch laptop's printing on japanese language.
AndreyPurtov 11 months ago
Now I know (:
rappwr 11 months ago
man i think that would be really good if you did like a video on tech like what you would get out their and in place's like in the UK or USA ? ? ? ?
just an idea cos i'm going out their after uni f=to get a job and live so i hope you can tell me what the techs like out their
oldlyswansea 11 months ago
すごい。 それ は とても 面白い です
lilbondblacky 11 months ago
So i've finally watched all of the "How to:" videos and i'll just have to say you're doing a very good job and it's quite interesting to listen to, and i'll try to say this in the least creepy way possible but you have a very nice voice to listen to, it's quite soothing actually.
FatMaster2002 11 months ago
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@JCDC
TheJapanChannelDcom
Not funny
That is your last offensive comment on my channel, thank you.
I am sure you think it is just funny, but it is just rude.
No more thanks.
Any more and I will have no choice but to block you,sorry
justcallmeassinine 3 weeks ago
Eh, so they start writing in katakana/hiragana and then the computer "transforms" it into kanji? Or did I misunderstand you?
lpasepok 11 months ago
@lpasepok You complete the full word in hiragana, for example, and then you hit the space bar to switch from the hiragana to the kanji.
TokioDylan 11 months ago
Would take me years to learn.
dylandior123 11 months ago
@dylandior123 You can use romaji-based IME too. You just write the word in phonetic western alphabet and the computer gives you a list of options in kanji or kana depending. A little slower but easier for us dumb westerners ;)
megamarsvin 11 months ago
Cool! :)
Merci beaucoup :-p
dylandior123 11 months ago
there's one thing which I think has not been mentioned: most people in the west are familiar with the Hepburn romanization (which approximately copies the pronunciation). a much better and faster way to type on a keyboard is ワープロ romanization which allows you to input ち、し、つ simply as TI, SI or TU.
@cloudstrifeification the iphone or any android device fully supports Japanese input, no need to buy an imported phone that won't work properly in your cellular network.
t3ndave 11 months ago
I punchedthe like button. Now you owe me a new monitor.
3clGTX 11 months ago
Love the videos! Keep it up
ShinyRedGloss 11 months ago
just curious, because of computers, are japanese kids becoming like american kids and losing the ability to spell. print and write grammatically?
brabon1 11 months ago
@brabon1 That's what I've heard, and some of my Japanese friends say/experience it as well. Even I can write text messages in kanji, but if you ask me to write the kanji out there are times when I can't. I can only recognize it.
TokioDylan 11 months ago
@TokioDylan thats sad...because the japanese alphabet is also art
brabon1 11 months ago
what is the difference between (i know i am going to misspell this so bare with me) hichicona and ichicona?
jtspgs1986 11 months ago
@jtspgs1986
Hiragana and katakana are on the "learning Japanese" playlist :-)
TheJapanChannelDcom 11 months ago 13
@TheJapanChannelDcom - wait...is hichicona and ichicona another way of saying hiragana and katakana or did you just take a wild stab in the dark that that is what hes on about...im confused
JeremyScottThompson 11 months ago
@jtspgs1986 lol, might wanna check your ears
Zannypants666 11 months ago
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Mylalulu 10 months ago
this is intresting abd whoever are the six ppl who disliked this r really ignorant....if u don wan 2 learn then luk at another video
Mylalulu 10 months ago
I'm learning Japanese and thanks for this video! I would so love to have that 日本のケイタイ to play around with. It would help me learn faster.
cloudstrifeification 11 months ago
In linux, we use ibus. I'm such a nerd.
bigun89 11 months ago
@BDtetra actually, there is a separation on that one. People in their late 30's and above were taught to type with the Japanese characters on the keyboard. Using "romaji" to type is for the younger generation. Quick note, it is "romaji" not "romanji"
WarmothStrat 11 months ago
you should also have mentioned that most people actually don't use the written Hiragana on the keyboard method. They usually input with the sound like HI for ひ and RYU for リュ
BDtetra 11 months ago
Thanks for this, nice explanation.
rpmcentire 11 months ago
Those systems will even become more easier to use in the future, due to more intelligent systems. You will be able to sort out some words, which doesn't make sense in the current sentence, as soon as programs will be able to understand written text.
Thanks for the video!
AndreR241 11 months ago
does the japanese text usually go horizontally left to right? i thought it went vertically right to left
sanichiwa 11 months ago
@sanichiwa It can go either way. I wouldn't say "more," but quite a bit of stuff nowadays gets written horizontally.
TokioDylan 11 months ago
Excellent, thanks Mr JCD. I watched some people typing on their phones when on the subway in Tokyo, and kind-of worked out how it was working, but this has given me a very clear demonstration of exactly how it works. Good job!
And very clever work for the software composers! The intricacies of kanji & kana would make this a demanding task!
Expresso98 11 months ago
that looked awesome. i recently hooked my computer with those fonts and they are quite fun lol.
ありがとうございました。
UnderGroundArsonizt 11 months ago
im just not use to the cellphones where each key represents 3 letters, which is why i love my blackberry soo much!! :)
singh4lyfee 11 months ago
wow that is so confusing. just watching you type in Japanese confuses me. Although I'm sure you get used to it like English. although I hate when English does that because is changes my words
CelesteRepchukLife 11 months ago
awesome
joxue3 11 months ago
Western keyboards also support this sort of input mode. Check your language and keyboard settings to adjust it. You can have several input modes to choose from and resetting it to a different one with just one click on the mouse. I can switch between English, Dutch and Japanese.
FHomeBrew 11 months ago
Very coool. I like the Keyboards like that.
depravedreality 11 months ago
This is something I was always curious about, thanks!
CruzzioXT 11 months ago 3
Ahwww that's how it works.... Thank you! xDD i always felt very curious about this xDD
Ladydaydreaming23 11 months ago
Most informative.
TubaBuddha 11 months ago
LOl I have had previous with japanese keyboards.I was able to find how to change it for Romanji but it did keep changing itself to japanese a lot.If you use windows on a pc in japan and like me you can't read Japanese i found everything was pretty much in the same place on the screen so you can guess the controls quite easy.
okuiai 11 months ago
one question.
why are all japanese cell phones, flip cell phones??
TheTikology 11 months ago 3
@TheTikology looks like a job for the Super Dude to find out :D
VladPayne 11 months ago
@TheTikology, flip phones are very cool. like where have you been man. they are like the coolest thing ever. Bar phones are ok but then you need a case to prevent buttons from being pushed or a case to protect the screen.
dragade101 11 months ago
@dragade101 yeah, that is pretty convenient.
but in my region pretty much no one as a flip cell phone! i mostly see them in japan.
whether it be in anime or videos of japan.
TheTikology 11 months ago
@TheTikology
I guess they had too many accidental phone calls, you know those like calling from the toilet in the bar drunk and while peeing while the phone is in the pocket of the trousers. I had friends call me like that a couple of times because my name is first on the alphabetic list and when they press it accidentally it tends to take the first name from the list. The flip phones solve this problem :-)
reshjuk 11 months ago
Wonder how chinese keyboards word, since it's without an alphabet or semi alphabet
scully2222 11 months ago
@scully2222
There is an alphabet. You can type the pinyin of the character.
xXentropyXx 11 months ago
OOOoohhh. That' show they do that.
LinuxBruiser 11 months ago
You didn't explain typing on a Japanese keyboard properly. You said that they press the keys with Kana on them and then it predicts what they might want to say. However, most people (including the guy in the video) type Japanese using Romaji. For example, for "sushi," they would type S-U-S-H-I in English. When they type "SU," the hiragana す appears, and when they type "SHI," the hiragana し appears. In order to display the Kanji, they'd hit the space bar, and it would become 寿司.
savetherocks 11 months ago 3
@savetherocks That's what I was going to say until I read your comment. I think that it's easier to just type Japanese with the English keyboard (Romanji) because I already know where everything is. Of course, that's just because I'm used to it as he mentioned in the video.
SilentDeath901 11 months ago
@SilentDeath901 It's not just because you're more used to it, it's a more efficient way of typing. This is especially true for typing abnormal Katakana compounds such as ディ. That's why most Japanese people use Romaji instead of Kana input.
savetherocks 11 months ago
this is SOOO helpful!!! thank u !!!!
totaldramaqueen108 11 months ago
I hate kanji :/
dexilme 11 months ago
I punched the like button and now my screen's turning funky colors.
BattleCry100 11 months ago
one time that I'm glad that I speak english. I hate autofill.
kerflop 11 months ago
So is it actually ok to mix kanji and hirigana for the same word or even within a sentence? How does that work?
dr3pts 11 months ago
It would be great to have a Japanese computer. Great informative video
tokyo383 11 months ago
Another great vid. Thank you.
CountChristoff 11 months ago
You can send either MMS or SMS on Japanese phones. Not just keitai email.
TokioDylan 11 months ago
i punched the like button^^
TheNachter 11 months ago 62
@TheNachter that must have hurt...
sanichiwa 11 months ago
@TheNachter
You are a kind and generous person, thank you!!
TheJapanChannelDcom 11 months ago 22
@TheJapanChannelDcom well i did to
MrAbood900 11 months ago
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shadowblade145 11 months ago 75
@shadowblade145 Pen15?
PhilWithCoffee 11 months ago
Hey there Mr. JapanChannel, nice and informative video you just made there, but there's only one little mistake you made. I believe it is pronounced Romaji (ローマ字) and not Romanji (ローマソ字). A very common mistake I might add, even among Japanologists. Sorry for being a bit of a nitpick here, but I hear this allot nowadays, so I thought to let the people know.
Cheers.
SerbianAlucard 11 months ago 4
@SerbianAlucard
Both words are accepted actually. Like the english language has some words that use different spelling for the same word such is the case for japan as well!!
But don't take my word for it. I'm just speculating since that's what some of the natives have been saying to me. It might differ from area to area.
raindeer2000 11 months ago
My computer doesn't give me options of words to choose from when I type. My cell phone does so I know what it is. It's like Auto Correct but I don't have that on my computer. I have to type out the entire word. If I spell the word wrong, it gets a line under it and I can click on the word to select the proper spelling. That's as far as my choices go. Great video. I'd love to have a Japanese keyboard.
grassnuggets 11 months ago
So when you write a word wrong, you'll know it because it won't predict the kanji that you wanna use for you?
DontTouchMyVicodin 11 months ago
I have this on my iPhone! :O you just have to select the international keyboard setting and you can pick which kind of keyboards you want to have. I have a Japanese one just because of the cute faces ♪( ´▽｀) -- like this one
Chikoritababy15 11 months ago
On OS X it's real easy to do it on English keyboards by typing the romaji, and it types the kana for that but it's nice to see an actual japanese keyboard. ありがとう。
genuinebbuck 11 months ago
@genuinebbuck thats the way it works on windows too. thats also the way it works in japan, the system he uses is different
ALXVid101 11 months ago
And even though there are hiragana on the keyboards, people prefer to type out words with the roman letters rather than hitting the key with the hiragana they are typing, right?
Sik15 11 months ago
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jojjebros 11 months ago
Is it possible to get one of them in the other side of the world?
SytheSlice 11 months ago
@SytheSlice yea, if you order it from japan or some other company that provides them
luvshugo 11 months ago
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genuinebbuck 11 months ago
cool. i've often wondered.
shepherdbaba 11 months ago
This is interesting. I thought Japanese keyboards were configured entirely in Japanese only. I didn't think that Roman characters would be at the center of each key. How incredibly fascinating! I guess you learn something new every day on YouTube---or, at least, I do. :D
1958boomergirl 11 months ago 2
@1958boomergirl there are two input types: 仮名入力 (kana) and ローマ字入力 (romaji), most people use the latter, which is basically a normal qwerty layout. there are also some extra keys like 変換 (conversion, typically in the spacebar position)、無変換 (no conversion) and カナ/かな (katakana/hiragana).
I don't use the Microsoft IME but I don't think it has any text prediction. Google Japanese input is much better as it can fetch input data from the Internet, really useful when you need to input surnames etc.
t3ndave 11 months ago
are there any programs you know of that you can send something in English and it will translate it into Japanese? do people who have their phones set to Japanese receive messages in English or will it convert the message to their selected language ?
1161858 11 months ago
@1161858 if people receive a message in english, it shows it in english, if they get in japanese it shows it in japanese...
ALXVid101 11 months ago
im curious is it a similar concept for other asian languages that have a unique script?
such as thai, korean and chinese?
worldtravel101 11 months ago
im glad someone finally did a video on this! ive always wondered about it.
worldtravel101 11 months ago
great video! I've been wondering about this for a very long time actually! :)
ChavezMelisa 11 months ago
Watching your videos makes me feel ホッとする. Thank you JapanChannel!! And like always I'm punching!!!
DelusionalJ 11 months ago
wheres the squiggly letter key
sk8rguy4life1123 11 months ago
On a chinese key board, you spell out the sound in english writing such as 'wang' or 'lin' and it transforms it into chinese symbols
Brucy6666 11 months ago