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  • ouch that was painful to watch....drugs destroyed a great band! No Rob Tyner? No machine gun thompson? Sad man sad....hard to watch

  • Where's Rob Tyner? It ain't the same w/o him.

  • wild thing or louie =? which ona was first =?

  • Love the opening ...

  • Rob remained the only non-addict member then and left the band somewhere in 1972. MC5 carried on till the end of the year.

  • FODA!

  • truly a shocking scene...close to the end...

    MC2 + 2..

    drugs took their tole..

    only brother Wayne & Sonic Smith here and they're

    f@cking struggeling...

    ...what a sad, sad scene...

  • "Louie Louie" with heavy guitar distortion! All right!

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  • I dont care if they are the MC5 that sucks.

  • who is singing ?  That isn't Rob Tyner ....

  • @anablic No! Don't tell me... ¬¬

  • any band with wayne and fred melts your face off!! just enjoy it!

  • where is Rob ?

  • that's not the MC5, wayne said that mc5 was over in 1971, this footage should be of some project that he did with fred, and 2 other guys, and the played some mc5 music

    one of the best, maybe in other dimension they did taked the beatles place being the most huge band in the planet, but in our dimension, they are just the band that will be in the memories of some sick dudes like us forever.

  • @whatsupmaniamme In 1972 they played beat club, and it was all 5 original members.

  • @RayManzarekGod No, it was four of the original members. Michael Davis left the band before the Beat Club performance.

  • @bocphet Aha! I didn't realize that, thanks!

  • @whatsupmaniamme But they will be in memories of fellow badasses forever ;)

  • This sounds like a teenage garage band. chords are off, vocals are off the whole fucking performance is off. stay away from drugs and drink!

  • This is bullshit!!

  • @taterdickens  Agreed!

  • I love the MC5 but that was pathetic. It makes me cringe. That isn't the MC5 that's the MC2 (Wayne and Fred) + two other guys. It's a shame that such a great band had to end like that.

  • I like the Kinks way better

  • i like 'em both :)

  • long live john sinclair's dream

  • I think they just invented Punk and heavy Metal, funk the N.Y. Dolls.

  • really nice version of the song!!

  • Gawd that singer sucks. Nice to see Wayne and Fred though. Without Dennis the bottom has truly fallen out.,let alone Michael Smith and Rob.

  • Man check out the drummer at the end!! Has that THING come out of space!!!!

  • wow Wayne looks like Lou Reed in this video!

    They must be related, realted becasue they are both super badass

  • their best years was passed

  • The end of the road.

  • A pale shadow of what they used to be.

    Should be titled the MC2.

  • @degooser2000

    They mentioned this in the documentary.

    The bassplayer Steeve Moorhouse said something like: "MC5? Bullshit. It was the MC2 plus one, plus a drummer". Though times.

  • I'm so proud that they came in Helsinki! They are simply just awesome band, and it was an honour to get them here, I think. :D

  • @akihakihalon Although it was only "half" of the band here... ;P

  • Well, I'm sure that Wayne and Fred enjoyed playing this song, and I'm sure they also caught a nice buzz at some point that day. I love when a band peters out like this. Something funny, but also romantic about it. I enjoy the bootleg tape of the Yule Bros. version of the Velvets playing in 1973 much more than asshole Lou and John's "Velvets" opening for U2 in 1993.

  • I'm sure they started out playing 'Louie Louie' when they were a garage band back in Lincoln Park in 1965/66. Here they are are in the end, reduced to playing "Louie Louie" once again in the end. It's sad and hard to watch/listen to a band that had it so good only a few years have to pump out out such a bull shit standard song to get any kind of a rise out of an audience. They should have let Dennis Thompson and Michael Davis clean up (detox) so they could have went on as who they were. SAAAD!

  • Hey that singer is Irish! Who was he??

  • Bass player Derek Hughes. The drummer is a guy named Richie Dharma or something like that

  • That weren't nealy as good aftter Rob Tyner left the group. I don't know who this lead singer even is.

  • MC2 at this point. Only Wayne and Fred left.

  • great band the motor city five. them, motown out the same place eh ! same time as well. all good stuff . .

  • arent those the same chords for wild thing

  • you know i think you're right.

  • in louie the 3rd chord is supposed to be minor

  • just one remark..Louie is a simple,pleasant hypnotic riff.. composed years before than "Wild Thing" or "Vicious", or the childish "Tell me more",

  • hang on aern't they also the same 3 chords to "hang on sloopy", "farmer john", "get off my cloud"?? and also if you play them 3 chords in a 12 bar pattern - then isn't that blues?? 3 is a magic number:)

  • you could literlaly play every song with those three chords

  • @LittleM1021 No, they're not, not quite. If you listen carefully you'll notice that Wild Thing is all major chords, whether the third chord of Louie Louie's basic riff is a minor chord (in the key of G, the third chord would be D minor)... both in The Kingsmen's version that made the song famous and in this "MC2" version

  • mc5  great

  • wow this is a rare one. Thanks for the post.

  • Shit :O :O So fuckin crazy band!!!

  • Vox de Lux.

    Lux de Luxe!

  • Vox De Luxe!

  • This is a HEAVY ONE!

  • THIS ONE IS HEAVY!

  • I am sure brother Wayne would like to forget this little episode in his career. Anyone knocking the MC5 only had to be at any of their Grande Ballroom shows to know what a high energy kick ass band they were. They got kicked off of the Canned Heat tour because Canned Heat didn't want to follow them and keep getting their ass kicked every night.

  • Totally, first time I saw them was in Lincoln Park Chicago for the 1968 Democratic Convention, I never got aged a day in my life after that experience. I was there with friend R. Crumb, Skip Williamson, and Jay Lynch, they kicked it off with Kick Out the Jams Mother Fuckers and we were gone..........................­.

  • lol didn't know that, Canned Heat could be pretty sloppy, Woodstock....ouch.

  • dude yeah i heard their setwasnt to good at woodstock.

  • 3:29 AWESOME!!!

  • It's always a joy to watch brother wayne on the guitar.

  • patty cake slap me 5 dont leave me hanging its a sea chanty as it should be sung loud drunk and horney bonzo76rockon

  • The MC2--Sonic and Wayne. Still great.

  • Explain more on this video. why is it just sonic and wayne? where is rob and machine gun?

  • Just a gig, MattDylan.

  • where can i find some raw footage of the MC5? not on youtube

  • If you're asking me, i dunno. I hadn't seen them--live or on film--for over 35 years until Youtubers started posting stuff.

  • What about the film `MC5 - A True Testimonial`. i heard it got pulled from the shelves or something cos of Tyners wife but a friend of mine got a copy from ebay and its shit hot.

  • man i wish i could see that. I been waiting for it to be released again.

  • By 72 Mike Davis had been kicked out, Dennis knew he had a bad drug problem and did not want to go to Europe, and Rob could see the writting on the wall. A few months after this show, on New Years Eve (December 72) the original 5 got back together for their final show. 1/2 way through the show, dope sick, Wayne left. That was it. Read "Grit, Noise, and Revolution" by David Carson. Gives great account of the 60s rock scene in Detroit. Lots of info on MC5, Stooges, many more

  • True. Also worth a read, and covering this stuff in good detail, is "Sonically Speaking" by Brett Callwood. Also, was lucky enough to meet Michael Davis in London last month.  Was a top bloke. Have a look at my videos for a clip of him singing "American Ruse". Admittedly singing ain't his strong point!

  • Thanks. I'll check it out. Top bloke indeed. About a year ago, he played in a small club here in San Diego with a band The Lords of Altamont. I got there early. He was standy by himelf  having a soft drink. I'm originaly from Detroit so we had a few things to chat about. We spoke with him for a bout 15 minutes. A great guy. I saw your video. Your right

  • im an incredibly big Mc5t fan,

    but this is just sad.

  • This is what f*ckin heroin

    does to ones spirit....

    What a shame...

  • i think its funny when people argue on youtube.

  • high five

  • Wow, ace! There were three bands of the 68-72 period which were ignored and/or ridiculed, but which today are revered worldwide as sonic visionaries - Velvet Underground, Stooges and MC5. I was a VU fan myself, so judged to be an idiot by potheads into Traffic and other weedy crap. You can see every aspect of 70s punk here, half a decade before its advent - but like all originals, this is still the greatest. MC5 were righteously political too: why the fuck doesn't anyone get angry anymore?

  • I actually saw the MC5 a long time ago somewhere. Anyway, the funny thing about this band is they had this "White Panther" gimmick, that included a manifesto renouncing money. This obviously didn't last long, as the band was starving. Then they embraced capitalism, and became a real rock 'n' roll band.

  • hey danteeen, what the f&*^ck have you done. something in your eye???

  • im really sorry that you are too shallow to enjoy a good song because it is simple. the rock and roll community would like to formally apologize for the fact that we are too mediocre for you and punk music isn't good enough for you. it is a real shame that you can't even understand that "loie loie" is a song that defines rock music.

  • if you love Mozart so much, why don't you marry him?

  • Okay, every single one of you retards missed the point by millions and millions of miles. Here's the deal: I LOVED the MC5. Fred "Sonic" Smith? Wayne Kramer? Are you F-ing kidding me? They rocked beyond comprehension! Still and all, they were, at best by anybody's standard, a garage band AND STILL MADE THE REST OF YOU LOOK LIKE THE MOST RETARDED WASTES OF DNA SINCE HUMANS FIRST LEAPT FROM THE PRIMORDIAL OOZE, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE COMMENTS POSTED BY YOU PATHETIC, SUB-HUMAN RETARDS! DIE, MORONS!

  • You're right. Calm down. You should have been around back in 68 or so. The hippies HATED the VU, the MC5, The Stooges. They were often booed or mocked or just ignored. Nice that today, they're finally seen as the real artists of the day--

    Too late for Rob Tyner, Sonic, Dave Alexander, Sterling Morrison, and a lot of their fans to know...but still feels like justice.

  • Sterling got to see it w/ the VU reunion in the early 90's.

  • Yes.

  • It's okay to be a stuck up elitist, but I think the rest of us would rather you didn't share.

  • ts...such a shame you can enjoy this and Mozart as well....

  • Lou Reed? WTF

  • I didn't know Christ Robinson was in the MC5?

  • Yeahh....he was the only

    decent performer here ☺♫☺♫

  • It's good they committed these three chords to memory before trying this live, an intellectual stretch if there ever was, as evidenced by the vocal exchange at the end. There were BAR BANDS that could kick their sorry asses back then........no shit.

  • It doesn't get any worse than this. Drunk, out of tune, lethargic, too wasted to play worth a shit......terrible

  • The singer actually isn't that bad,but

    indeed.....a cryin shame,you can see that

    the fire has been put out by heroine.

    Otherwise....that '66 intensity is ofcourse

    difficult to maintain.

  • how do you think the original sounded dumbass? its about a drunk lovesick jamacian sailor how do you think its supposed to sound? they got in the same state of mind as the writer of the song who was a bit of a junkie

  • fuck off sailor boy. I remember the origional all too well......it sucked too.......but this is beyond description. these sad-asses are SUPPOSED to be PROFESSIONALS, not a glorified garage band......but then maybe that's just what the fuck they were.........THIS SUCKS

  • sailer boy? who the hell are you? and when were the MC5 ever proffessionals? they were only just the driving force in punk rock in the early '70s dont talk about stuff you dont understand i was there

  • Yeah, well I was there too. and they sucked back then, and they still suck. and punk sucks too

  • fuck you

  • The Kingsmen and the Kinks,were the only ones

    who made a decent cover of the "original"./

  • The Kingsmen made the origional

  • I can't blame you for thinking

    that Zlazon....[I thought that too]

    The Kingsmen version is the most known

    but check"The History Of Louie Louie"

    posted by Geosilver.

    (Look to the right,"(related Vids),

    and get some Louie historie./

  • That's good to know, but, actually, I don't really care for the song much. But I remember lying in bed with my cheap transistor radio listening to the Kingsmen version. Personally, I think the song sucks, and this version really sucks.  It's terrible what drugs can do after the initial wave of creativity that accompanies it is over. This video is proof enough for me.

  • Whell....for the most,I can't argue with that.For some reason, Kingsmen Louie touched a nerve in the early sixties,but apart from America it was unknown over here in Europe.

    But....drugs....whell,some artists thrived

    on it,(for a short while).even a certain K.Richards began to suck after '77.

  • Sid Barrett, enough said

  • wat

  • Was it drugs that fucked up your grammar ?

  • toots and the maytals my friend....

  • shut the fuck up thats the way its supposed to sound asshole listen to the real song

  • Kramer's got the junk eyes

  • Very close to the oh so sad ending of the five.

  • Okay it's not the MC5, they are only 2 of the original band, but here it's LOUIE LOUIE THE SONG, the played it raw and sinceritely. THANKS FOR THIS, KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHERFUCKERS !!!!!

  • Who's the lead singer? Doesn't really look like Rob...

  • maybe Derek Hughes. I don't know the drummer's name

  • Okay then, but what happened to Rob?

  • he had just quit the band

  • Are you sure? In the "related" bar, there's a version of "Motorcity is burning" And it is said to have took place in 73, it's probably false, but i'm hungry for knowledge.

  • that clip was early '72

  • that was in Beat Club Bremen march'72

  • Only Wayne and Fred left at this point. This is Europe in late 72. Check out the book "Grit, Noise, and Revolution" by David Carson. Great book on the history of Detroit rock. He has a few chapters on the 5. Aslo, get a hold of the film "MC5: A True Testimonial" if you can. 2 hour documentary on the 5. This clip is from that film. The film was never officially released. You can find a few promotional copies out there that were released before legale problems stopped the DVD distribution.

  • fred smith wayne kramer ritchie dharma derek hughes

  • So it's the MC4? They were much better with Rob.

  • No, Actually it´s MC3.

  • More like MC2. Only Wayne and Fred left at this point. They played their last gig as the MC5 one month later on New Years Eve at the Grandie Ballroom in Detriot where it all began 6 years earlier. Wayne was dope sick and left 1/2 way through the show. Check out "Grit, Noise, and Revolution" by David Carson, or the docunetary "MC5: A True Testimonial"

  • Its an early "Smells like teen spirit"

  • love these guys! they're my brothers!

    however this aint so good, and it's fine.

    it's for real, that's what matters, it's still got soul. they were detroit guys in helsinki in 1972, that's a trip unto itself. put yourself in their shoes. sheeze, most detroiters barely got as far as cleveland and these guys were on the other side of the world.

  • still way far out

  • 3:29-3:38 oh exploitable

  • Wayne Kramer told in a finnish music mag a couple of years ago that before this show he drunk a small bottle of whisky with one giant sip. That could explain some.

  • I picked up a bootlegged copy of this show years ago when I was a kid and  couldn't reconcile the fact that this was "T-H-E M-C-5". I finally got the true story as the fog of history began to clear. I spoke to Kramer once and asked about this show and he stated that he could remember being there and nothing more given how "fucked up" he was. I pressed him on it it and he said "no, listen- I was fucked up!". End of story, end of chapter- in like a bang, out with a whimper.

  • Hello! I try to colect bootlegs of the mc5, but it's quite hard to find. Do you have some ideas of where Thanks a lot!

    this video kiks ass.

  • Ts not bad. But they did NEVER EVER kicked the shit outta band calles CREAM; you faggot

  • boy you guys argue a lot! i gotta say though  this is really bad

  • did someone say this band are better than cream? you cant be serious

  • Zlyto you are the worlds best musician I assume.

    Have you ever played "Louie Louie"?

    The absolute bottom rung of the ladder with "Gloria".

    These guys are having fun messing with the CIA's favourite conspiracy ,porn lyric song.you are pathetic.

    Go listen to Phil Collins

  • in tune?? faggot

  • Hey, this is not bad. MC5 is punk, not art rock.

  • That's probably because people in '68 to '72(and beyond, let's not kid ourselves) were fuckin' idiots, for the most part. And you obviously don't have a clue about this band, because if you did you'd know that this was one of the lowest points the band ever reached. Wayne Kramer has spoken of how horrible this gig/tour(mostly cancelled) was. They sure kicked the shit outta bands that were happening at the time, like Cream, for instance.

  • It doesn't suck, but they should never have called it The Mc5.

  • Still a treat. Interesting to say the least.

  • Sometimes you need to put food on the table.

  • Or in your arm, as the case may be.

  • 'we gotta go' no truer words spoken at the end there ad nauseum. this should have never happened.

  • Incredibly disappointing.  At least Derek Hughes was once humble enough to admit that this line-up should have never occurred. This tour ended up being canceled. You can just tell by Wayne and Fred's performance that they were over it.

  • over and over

  • This is a treat. Thanks for pulling this one out of ...wherever it came from...

  • to the end of time only the classic line up will survive in memories: this one was born already dead

  • There's no MC5 without Rob Tyner

  • still good...

    taxiboysdrummer

  • you're right man....

  • anyone know who the others are?

  • Derek Hughes bass/vocals and Ritchie Dharma drums.  check out MC5 Gateway for tons of history

  • Great version of louie louie. RIP Fred and Rob.

  • More like MC2. Only Wayne and Fred left at this point. They played their last gig as the MC5 one month later at the Grandie Ballroom in Detriot where it all began 6 years earlier.

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