i just though i posted but it didn't show. i can't explain all basic economics to you. and the government has no business governing wages - that's called socialism. that's un-American. Move to France
Maybe we shouldn't have the government governing working hours or conditions either? Yeah, let's go back to working 12-19 hours a day in horrid, unsafe conditions with few/no safety protections. If you're hurt or killed on the job, tough shit- your "compensation" is to get fired & replaced with an uninjured worker. To your surviving family, "tough shit" to them. Let them beg, steal, or starve, right?
So now I'm an idiot. Spoken like a true fundamentalist conservative. To answer your question, I'm a building contractor, self employed. I'm also an atheist. With morals.
Obviously my posts are being blocked. The 3rd of my initial 3-part post won't post, and my reply to your zealotry remark won't post. So much for dialog.
Cont'd to Kane: The Min Wage didn't go up for TEN years. At that time, persons working FORTY hours a week with NO vacation or holiday would still earn under $11,000 per year! You need to get a grip, my friend. If you think wages should be "between employee & employer," with no legal recourse to prevent exploitation, then you really don't know much about business or how life works. If you were starving, wouldn't you work a full day for half a loaf of bread? Think about it.
Minimum wage isn't the governments job! It's between the employee and the employer! Why do idiots like edwards get involved! They screw things up, not help. They FORCE...FORCE employers to pay higher and higher and higher wages, and it hurts employers, so instead of higher wages, there are no wages thanks to going out of business. Click on my name and seem my channel!
Hate to break it to you but this is a democracy where 90% of us want a reasonable minimum wage. And as far as employers, someone has to provide the services provided by min. wage workers. Somoeone has to work the service industry, or manufacturing. You can't eliminate all those jobs.
Besides, a CBO study in the 70s found a slowly increased min. wage doesn't harm employment. And a higher min wage in Oregon or calif doesn't hurt employment
Hate to break it to you but we have this thing called a constitution which limits the power of the government. I know liberals hate the constitution but it's a real thing that needs to be respected. The governments job isn't your pay. And 90% of the people..show me! And have you been to California, do you know how expensive it is there?
The more you are FORCED to pay your employee the higher you prices you must charge. What if an employer and employee agree on $5 an hour, but then the government comes in and says the employer must pay $8 an hour. Is that fair? Even if the employee and employer have already agreed on a wage. It's between the employee and the employer.
Kane, We know big business would pay .10/hour if not for laws to prohibit it. Greed ALWAYS exploits others. & people would work for that to survive. So we have a law against such exploitation— the Minimum Wage. Like picking up after one's dog, if decency isn't volunteered, then it must be mandated. Of course business wont SAY it doesn't like such decency & will instead come up w/great-sounding rationales! But good grief you don't have to BELIEVE them! And you begrudge people earning $11K/yr???
Hate to break it to you HalfBrain and Todd-Bureaucracy, the minimum wage is detrimental to an economy and its constituents. It increases unemployment and sends jobs outside the country. It also increases prices for goods. I don't want people like you sending our jobs to Mexico and China for no reason. There are people working at McDonald's and hotels that are over payed, even at $6-$7/hour! "Minimum" is subjective and relative anyway. That's why the market determines it. Its the only fair way.
Dominatrix, you simply state the argument big business gives for being against the min. wage. Of course they would say that, I mean they're not going to say "we have lots of greed & little integrity"! Decent people believe a person who works full time should make a living wage. Decent people want to pay a fair price for goods that INCLUDES a living wage for the workers. People with brains & calculators know that the $6 you cite means $13,000/year, which is well below the POVERTY line (cont'd...)
(cont'd...) and intelligent, informed people know it's GREED that sends jobs overseas, not the notion that workers ought not to be exploited. "The market" will NOT cause employers to pay a fair wage so long as human being need to eat. They'd pay a dime an hour, and people would work for it to eat (exploitation) if not for the law to enforce simple decency when greed rules. If being fair to workers means raising prices to do so, well DUH, that's how prices SHOULD be set. Selfishness & (cont'd...)
You reek of zealotry. (Not meant to be an insult) In all serious, define: "greed", "big business", "decent", "exploit", "fair", "living wage", "poverty line". Do you see what I'm getting at? Those words are subjective, unscientific, and irrational and have no place in an economics debate. Again, price floors create a surplus of labor and increased prices that affect the poor the most. You're a hypocrite. You're going to keep the "needy" unemployed and their expenses up!
Domina: Spoken like a true BigBusinessMan. Muddy waters with all sorts of erudition to convince people it's really a good thing to work your butt off for $13k/year! Life's greatest truths are the simples ones, & grade schoolers understand this one: exploitation is bad, fair is good. You can't use the excuse that poor people would have to pay higher prices for goods made with fair wages—different problem, other solutions for that. Get a grip. Bad people will ALWAYS make themselves SOUND good.
big business man? i'm in college! and you totally missed my point. again your litany of loaded words will never win a debate. why impose your morals on the rest of society? no one is stopping you from giving away YOUR money to the poor. Don't try to make me pay higher prices for stuff. Read up on Ayn Rand
I said you SPEAK like one—with verbiage right out of the conservative playbook. Fairness is "imposing my morals"? LOL. Never had a business ETHICS course??? Heck, if we don't need morals in business, we can have SLAVERY! You don't want to pay a "higher price" for an item if you can avoid it through exploitation of others. Basically you want something for free at another's expense. It's disgusting. You whine over paying people a wage that's lower than dirt already—as if they didn't EARN it!!!
Dom: After this, U can have the last word. Fact: Business will pay as LITTLE as possible; so without a law, it would pay a dime an hour—and people would work for it, because they need to eat (in slavery, business paid zero; but hey, the people needed to eat). Like dog poop laws, sometimes you must enforce what should be common decency. The min wage is a MINIMAL pittance for hard work, which draws the line against indecency. U can debate where to draw that line, but U can't debate the concept.
(cont'd) greed will ALWAYS find some rationale (Bible writers claimed GOD sent them on their murderous slave capturing rampages) but that doesn't make it true. The concept is simple & elegant: workers deserve a fair wage, no matter how hungry & desperate they may be for work. Business is esp prone to exploitation. Claiming "the market" ensures wage fairness is a lame & disgusting excuse for greed. & GREED ships jobs out, not poor people "generously" allowed to struggle below poverty on min wage.
"There are people working at McDonald's and hotels that are over payed, even at $6-$7/hour!"
Overpaid? Excuse me, but those people often have to get 2nd, 3rd, even 4th or 5th jobs, and/or apply for public assistance to make ends meet- you know, keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. In fact WalMart actively ENCOURAGES their new hires to apply for food stamps, Medicaid, Sect 8 housing, etc, and shows them how to do so. And you say they're overpaid?
Maybe if we quit eliminating all the better paying jobs, or shipping them out of the country, or giving them to foreign guest workers willing to do them for a fraction of what Americans can afford to live on(because the countries they're from pay 100% of their citizens' college tuition so they don't have to worry about paying back student loans), that would be more of an option.
define better paying jobs? GM workers who get paid 70dollar/hr or some union worker who gets paid 30/hr for making toys? and your shocked that companies are running to the door to outsource their job?
It's those kind of wages that have enabled people to buy a house, buy a new car, buy health insurance, send their kids to college, and pay taxes that support the community. The jobs now being created on the other hand pay low enough to qualify for public assistance. Who's gonna keep the economy going? A $30 an hour worker or a $6 an hour slave? Who's gonna buy the houses, cars, PC's, DVD players, etc, when 70-90% of Americans are either unemployed or working for subsistence wages?
yes under your logic i'm sure no one was living in a house, owned a car, and went to a college before that 70/hr job came along. I wonder how Chinese people are buying cars and houses at (1/10th) the wage of minimum wage in america.
Before workers got paid $30-$70 an hour type wages, most people lived at home with their parents. 3 or 4 generations under the same roof was not uncommon. And usually only the upper classes were able to afford a new car or to send their kids to college. Chinese workers? Most of them are either still living with their parents or in company dorms with no running water and maybe 1 toilet for the whole floor or building.
lol your looking at the poor of the poor most of them move on to be middle class. If you want to go that low yea in america we have that too. Mexicans cramming into 3bdrm apts. I don't know where ur getting your news but many of them live in decent apts. and many of them have middle class jobs.
Most poor move on to be middle class? Where? Every day more middle class people are being forced into poverty by their jobs getting eliminated, outsourced, or given to H1-B visa guest workers, and the only jobs available are at fast food joints or WalMart, and that's when they aren't being rejected as "overqualified" or having to compete with illegals willing to do those jobs for less than $5 an hour.
Best way to eliminate these job losses is reduce goverment burden on socity. There no motvation for me to work when they take 35% of my money and charge me another 10-15% on sales tax. I just rather go on Wel-fare
Define government burden? Corporate taxes? Regulations? Yeah, let's eliminate those and let companies pollute at will and leave the community to deal with water unsafe to drink and air unfit to breathe and let the locals pay for the cleanup- that's what they're doing in China. Yeah, companies should be allowed to do whatever they want- child labor, unsafe working conditions with no safety measures, no workmen's comp, just like China, and pay no taxes, right?
we can & should reduce pollution when possible because I been to china & south America & totally agree with the air and water issue. However environment laws and compliance does not kill bussines and sometimes is does make economic sense to be green. The ones that kill business its labor and just plain corporate tax why would anyone want to own a business here when ever dollar your earn you only keep $.70. But when push comes to shove I rather have people working then unemployed with clean air.
i'm sorry i was wrong, its not 30% its 39% and thats just federal corporate tax rate so you got to add states corporate tax rate. so that should easily be near 50%
federal is 35-39% depending on how much ur net sales. then the state i live in is 4.8% so if my business does a gross profit of 200k (which should be for the average mom and pop shops) that 39% tax bracket plust 4.8% thats just fed and state. (now you need to add county and city). and your wondering why small business don't hire more people.
According to conservatives, all the keys to great economic growth, growth far better than Reagan and Clinton were finally in place in 2007: the lowest taxes since 1940, the weakest unions since 1940, the least regulation since 1935, longest stretch of easy money, and very low inflation. Look what happened.
how is easy money a conservative key to economic growth? It encourages risky investment and overpsending, which did lead to the bubble and subsequent collapse. Easy money is not a good thing, nor is it something conservatives should or do strive for. Money should not be a factor in investment decisions. Money is simply a way to engage in trade without having to carry around some physical commodity. Monetary policy should not be used to incentive certain investments over others.
decent wages? what u call decent wages? when the goverment take a way everything they earn? i think a decent wage its a $25h and no more taxes at all thas how a wage could be decent SUCKERS
WE WILl change and rise the minimum wage to $25h NO A MISERABLY 7:50h so VOTE ED BROWN AND ME 2008 THIS SENATORS THIS GOVERMENT THINK THAT a family of 3 could live with a 7:50h BULL SHIT no way jose so for better conditons and better salaries VOTE ED BROWN AND ME 2008
This is an impulse issue. Kinda like a lure the angler (politician) uses to stir the bite impulse (self interest) in a fish (uninformed voter). It's no good for the fish - the only advantage gained is for the angler.
John Edwards is a trial lawyer that probably made his money by conning jury's that consisted of a bunch of backwoods, toothless, moonshiners that congenatal abnormalities(genetic birth defects) where the result of hospitals and doctors.
John Edwards: Minimum wage should not be raised. Do you realize that an extremely small percentage of the U.S. makes minimum wage? Raising minimum wage makes it harder for 14-year-olds, like me yo get a job. Thus raising minimum wage will increase the unenployment rate.
Then your government should amend those laws so that younger workers can get paid less than the minimum wage. In Australia, our minimum wage is about AUS$13.45 an hour at the moment (US$11.43), but 14 yo's can get paid 50% of that, whilst a 20 yo is 90%, with different percentages for different ages.
Lobby your government to introduce a law like that.
... and this coming from a multi millionaire trial attorney who made much of his money from frivilous lawsuits.and who wins? he makes off with millions while poor old bob pays a $1.OO more for a pack smokes,and the tobacco companies continue to get richer.
typical cheap worded Democrats!
ntn1987 2 years ago
Minnimum wage costs jobs for meny willing to work.
john51880 2 years ago
i just though i posted but it didn't show. i can't explain all basic economics to you. and the government has no business governing wages - that's called socialism. that's un-American. Move to France
DominationCorp 3 years ago
they are not governing wages its a price floor
its un american to pay someone 2 bucks an hr
wkruk1979 2 years ago
The government has no business interfering in business whatsoever. Wages, hours, and working conditions need to be laissez faire.
DarrelfromZeeland 2 years ago
and so should the choice of music and tv stationsThe government has no business in those two either u stupid hypocrite
wkruk1979 2 years ago
Maybe we shouldn't have the government governing working hours or conditions either? Yeah, let's go back to working 12-19 hours a day in horrid, unsafe conditions with few/no safety protections. If you're hurt or killed on the job, tough shit- your "compensation" is to get fired & replaced with an uninjured worker. To your surviving family, "tough shit" to them. Let them beg, steal, or starve, right?
Pbirv 2 years ago
We have socialism now- socialism for the rich, which costs way more than all the programs for the working classes and the poor put together.
Pbirv 2 years ago
i can't argue with an idiot. and for the record, what do you do for a living?
DominationCorp 3 years ago
So now I'm an idiot. Spoken like a true fundamentalist conservative. To answer your question, I'm a building contractor, self employed. I'm also an atheist. With morals.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
take a spin through my favorites and educate yourself
DominationCorp 3 years ago
LOL to that!
Obviously my posts are being blocked. The 3rd of my initial 3-part post won't post, and my reply to your zealotry remark won't post. So much for dialog.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago
Cont'd to Kane: The Min Wage didn't go up for TEN years. At that time, persons working FORTY hours a week with NO vacation or holiday would still earn under $11,000 per year! You need to get a grip, my friend. If you think wages should be "between employee & employer," with no legal recourse to prevent exploitation, then you really don't know much about business or how life works. If you were starving, wouldn't you work a full day for half a loaf of bread? Think about it.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
Minimum wage isn't the governments job! It's between the employee and the employer! Why do idiots like edwards get involved! They screw things up, not help. They FORCE...FORCE employers to pay higher and higher and higher wages, and it hurts employers, so instead of higher wages, there are no wages thanks to going out of business. Click on my name and seem my channel!
KaneFenton4Freedom 4 years ago
Hate to break it to you but this is a democracy where 90% of us want a reasonable minimum wage. And as far as employers, someone has to provide the services provided by min. wage workers. Somoeone has to work the service industry, or manufacturing. You can't eliminate all those jobs.
Besides, a CBO study in the 70s found a slowly increased min. wage doesn't harm employment. And a higher min wage in Oregon or calif doesn't hurt employment
ToddBudreau 4 years ago 2
Hate to break it to you but we have this thing called a constitution which limits the power of the government. I know liberals hate the constitution but it's a real thing that needs to be respected. The governments job isn't your pay. And 90% of the people..show me! And have you been to California, do you know how expensive it is there?
KaneFenton4Freedom 4 years ago
(Cont)
The more you are FORCED to pay your employee the higher you prices you must charge. What if an employer and employee agree on $5 an hour, but then the government comes in and says the employer must pay $8 an hour. Is that fair? Even if the employee and employer have already agreed on a wage. It's between the employee and the employer.
KaneFenton4Freedom 4 years ago
"I know liberals hate the constitution"
Apparently so do neocons. After all Bush did call it "just a goddamn piece of paper".
Pbirv 2 years ago 2
Kane, We know big business would pay .10/hour if not for laws to prohibit it. Greed ALWAYS exploits others. & people would work for that to survive. So we have a law against such exploitation— the Minimum Wage. Like picking up after one's dog, if decency isn't volunteered, then it must be mandated. Of course business wont SAY it doesn't like such decency & will instead come up w/great-sounding rationales! But good grief you don't have to BELIEVE them! And you begrudge people earning $11K/yr???
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
Hate to break it to you HalfBrain and Todd-Bureaucracy, the minimum wage is detrimental to an economy and its constituents. It increases unemployment and sends jobs outside the country. It also increases prices for goods. I don't want people like you sending our jobs to Mexico and China for no reason. There are people working at McDonald's and hotels that are over payed, even at $6-$7/hour! "Minimum" is subjective and relative anyway. That's why the market determines it. Its the only fair way.
DominationCorp 3 years ago
Dominatrix, you simply state the argument big business gives for being against the min. wage. Of course they would say that, I mean they're not going to say "we have lots of greed & little integrity"! Decent people believe a person who works full time should make a living wage. Decent people want to pay a fair price for goods that INCLUDES a living wage for the workers. People with brains & calculators know that the $6 you cite means $13,000/year, which is well below the POVERTY line (cont'd...)
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago
(cont'd...) and intelligent, informed people know it's GREED that sends jobs overseas, not the notion that workers ought not to be exploited. "The market" will NOT cause employers to pay a fair wage so long as human being need to eat. They'd pay a dime an hour, and people would work for it to eat (exploitation) if not for the law to enforce simple decency when greed rules. If being fair to workers means raising prices to do so, well DUH, that's how prices SHOULD be set. Selfishness & (cont'd...)
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago
You reek of zealotry. (Not meant to be an insult) In all serious, define: "greed", "big business", "decent", "exploit", "fair", "living wage", "poverty line". Do you see what I'm getting at? Those words are subjective, unscientific, and irrational and have no place in an economics debate. Again, price floors create a surplus of labor and increased prices that affect the poor the most. You're a hypocrite. You're going to keep the "needy" unemployed and their expenses up!
DominationCorp 3 years ago
Domina: Spoken like a true BigBusinessMan. Muddy waters with all sorts of erudition to convince people it's really a good thing to work your butt off for $13k/year! Life's greatest truths are the simples ones, & grade schoolers understand this one: exploitation is bad, fair is good. You can't use the excuse that poor people would have to pay higher prices for goods made with fair wages—different problem, other solutions for that. Get a grip. Bad people will ALWAYS make themselves SOUND good.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
big business man? i'm in college! and you totally missed my point. again your litany of loaded words will never win a debate. why impose your morals on the rest of society? no one is stopping you from giving away YOUR money to the poor. Don't try to make me pay higher prices for stuff. Read up on Ayn Rand
DominationCorp 3 years ago
I said you SPEAK like one—with verbiage right out of the conservative playbook. Fairness is "imposing my morals"? LOL. Never had a business ETHICS course??? Heck, if we don't need morals in business, we can have SLAVERY! You don't want to pay a "higher price" for an item if you can avoid it through exploitation of others. Basically you want something for free at another's expense. It's disgusting. You whine over paying people a wage that's lower than dirt already—as if they didn't EARN it!!!
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
Dom: After this, U can have the last word. Fact: Business will pay as LITTLE as possible; so without a law, it would pay a dime an hour—and people would work for it, because they need to eat (in slavery, business paid zero; but hey, the people needed to eat). Like dog poop laws, sometimes you must enforce what should be common decency. The min wage is a MINIMAL pittance for hard work, which draws the line against indecency. U can debate where to draw that line, but U can't debate the concept.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago 2
(cont'd) greed will ALWAYS find some rationale (Bible writers claimed GOD sent them on their murderous slave capturing rampages) but that doesn't make it true. The concept is simple & elegant: workers deserve a fair wage, no matter how hungry & desperate they may be for work. Business is esp prone to exploitation. Claiming "the market" ensures wage fairness is a lame & disgusting excuse for greed. & GREED ships jobs out, not poor people "generously" allowed to struggle below poverty on min wage.
ApplyUrBrain 3 years ago
"There are people working at McDonald's and hotels that are over payed, even at $6-$7/hour!"
Overpaid? Excuse me, but those people often have to get 2nd, 3rd, even 4th or 5th jobs, and/or apply for public assistance to make ends meet- you know, keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. In fact WalMart actively ENCOURAGES their new hires to apply for food stamps, Medicaid, Sect 8 housing, etc, and shows them how to do so. And you say they're overpaid?
Pbirv 2 years ago 3
i would add that Wal mart is a communist company, if they rncourage its employees to get on goverment assistance
THAT is communism
who told you people at those obs were overpaid? and what do they base that on?
wkruk1979 2 years ago 3
I was responding to DominationCorp. It should be on the next page over of comments here.
Pbirv 2 years ago
nobody is forcing anybody to work for McDonald's or walmart if you dont like your wage your always willcome to quit your job and find a new one.
djtohkee 2 years ago
Maybe if we quit eliminating all the better paying jobs, or shipping them out of the country, or giving them to foreign guest workers willing to do them for a fraction of what Americans can afford to live on(because the countries they're from pay 100% of their citizens' college tuition so they don't have to worry about paying back student loans), that would be more of an option.
Pbirv 2 years ago
define better paying jobs? GM workers who get paid 70dollar/hr or some union worker who gets paid 30/hr for making toys? and your shocked that companies are running to the door to outsource their job?
djtohkee 2 years ago
It's those kind of wages that have enabled people to buy a house, buy a new car, buy health insurance, send their kids to college, and pay taxes that support the community. The jobs now being created on the other hand pay low enough to qualify for public assistance. Who's gonna keep the economy going? A $30 an hour worker or a $6 an hour slave? Who's gonna buy the houses, cars, PC's, DVD players, etc, when 70-90% of Americans are either unemployed or working for subsistence wages?
Pbirv 2 years ago
yes under your logic i'm sure no one was living in a house, owned a car, and went to a college before that 70/hr job came along. I wonder how Chinese people are buying cars and houses at (1/10th) the wage of minimum wage in america.
djtohkee 2 years ago
Before workers got paid $30-$70 an hour type wages, most people lived at home with their parents. 3 or 4 generations under the same roof was not uncommon. And usually only the upper classes were able to afford a new car or to send their kids to college. Chinese workers? Most of them are either still living with their parents or in company dorms with no running water and maybe 1 toilet for the whole floor or building.
Pbirv 2 years ago
lol your looking at the poor of the poor most of them move on to be middle class. If you want to go that low yea in america we have that too. Mexicans cramming into 3bdrm apts. I don't know where ur getting your news but many of them live in decent apts. and many of them have middle class jobs.
djtohkee 2 years ago
Most poor move on to be middle class? Where? Every day more middle class people are being forced into poverty by their jobs getting eliminated, outsourced, or given to H1-B visa guest workers, and the only jobs available are at fast food joints or WalMart, and that's when they aren't being rejected as "overqualified" or having to compete with illegals willing to do those jobs for less than $5 an hour.
Pbirv 2 years ago
watch?v=I_IMuxMXd3E
Best way to eliminate these job losses is reduce goverment burden on socity. There no motvation for me to work when they take 35% of my money and charge me another 10-15% on sales tax. I just rather go on Wel-fare
djtohkee 2 years ago
Define government burden? Corporate taxes? Regulations? Yeah, let's eliminate those and let companies pollute at will and leave the community to deal with water unsafe to drink and air unfit to breathe and let the locals pay for the cleanup- that's what they're doing in China. Yeah, companies should be allowed to do whatever they want- child labor, unsafe working conditions with no safety measures, no workmen's comp, just like China, and pay no taxes, right?
Pbirv 2 years ago
we can & should reduce pollution when possible because I been to china & south America & totally agree with the air and water issue. However environment laws and compliance does not kill bussines and sometimes is does make economic sense to be green. The ones that kill business its labor and just plain corporate tax why would anyone want to own a business here when ever dollar your earn you only keep $.70. But when push comes to shove I rather have people working then unemployed with clean air.
djtohkee 2 years ago
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djtohkee 2 years ago
i'm sorry i was wrong, its not 30% its 39% and thats just federal corporate tax rate so you got to add states corporate tax rate. so that should easily be near 50%
djtohkee 2 years ago
federal is 35-39% depending on how much ur net sales. then the state i live in is 4.8% so if my business does a gross profit of 200k (which should be for the average mom and pop shops) that 39% tax bracket plust 4.8% thats just fed and state. (now you need to add county and city). and your wondering why small business don't hire more people.
djtohkee 2 years ago
According to conservatives, all the keys to great economic growth, growth far better than Reagan and Clinton were finally in place in 2007: the lowest taxes since 1940, the weakest unions since 1940, the least regulation since 1935, longest stretch of easy money, and very low inflation. Look what happened.
Pbirv 2 years ago
how is easy money a conservative key to economic growth? It encourages risky investment and overpsending, which did lead to the bubble and subsequent collapse. Easy money is not a good thing, nor is it something conservatives should or do strive for. Money should not be a factor in investment decisions. Money is simply a way to engage in trade without having to carry around some physical commodity. Monetary policy should not be used to incentive certain investments over others.
oterj0 2 years ago
John Edwards kicks ass!!
aweakgruel 4 years ago
Minimum Wage sucks at any any mount
cbowman61 4 years ago
decent wages? what u call decent wages? when the goverment take a way everything they earn? i think a decent wage its a $25h and no more taxes at all thas how a wage could be decent SUCKERS
franco1991abby 4 years ago 2
Edwards is communist.
Notsplane 4 years ago
porve it so is bush
n438 4 years ago
WE WILl change and rise the minimum wage to $25h NO A MISERABLY 7:50h so VOTE ED BROWN AND ME 2008 THIS SENATORS THIS GOVERMENT THINK THAT a family of 3 could live with a 7:50h BULL SHIT no way jose so for better conditons and better salaries VOTE ED BROWN AND ME 2008
noseMF 4 years ago
This is an impulse issue. Kinda like a lure the angler (politician) uses to stir the bite impulse (self interest) in a fish (uninformed voter). It's no good for the fish - the only advantage gained is for the angler.
DAVESIV 4 years ago
Edwards has no chance, why is he wasting his time and money?
embryo923 4 years ago
John Edwards is a trial lawyer that probably made his money by conning jury's that consisted of a bunch of backwoods, toothless, moonshiners that congenatal abnormalities(genetic birth defects) where the result of hospitals and doctors.
ophuchew 4 years ago
go wast money on a haircut...
Toxik03 4 years ago
John Edwards: Minimum wage should not be raised. Do you realize that an extremely small percentage of the U.S. makes minimum wage? Raising minimum wage makes it harder for 14-year-olds, like me yo get a job. Thus raising minimum wage will increase the unenployment rate.
nj2010mqt 4 years ago
Then your government should amend those laws so that younger workers can get paid less than the minimum wage. In Australia, our minimum wage is about AUS$13.45 an hour at the moment (US$11.43), but 14 yo's can get paid 50% of that, whilst a 20 yo is 90%, with different percentages for different ages.
Lobby your government to introduce a law like that.
MikeT2005 4 years ago
U know, I've never thought of that. That's actually
a pretty good idea.
nj2010mqt 4 years ago
Damn straight it's a good idea. It's an Australian idea. :-p LOL probably not but I'll claim it as ours.
MikeT2005 4 years ago
sounds good. i would do that 2
nj2010mqt 4 years ago
collectivism, communism, what's that differance??
no7flap 5 years ago
lol
embryo923 4 years ago
collectiveism, progressivism, communism, whats the difference?
ophuchew 4 years ago
edwards deserves every cent he has. Him and is wife bth went through law school. John Edwards for President 2008
rockybalboa55 5 years ago
but he says rich people don't deserve what they have that they should be ashamed and the $ really isn't theirs but the gov't's
bobalu10 4 years ago
... and this coming from a multi millionaire trial attorney who made much of his money from frivilous lawsuits.and who wins? he makes off with millions while poor old bob pays a $1.OO more for a pack smokes,and the tobacco companies continue to get richer.
Gregoryy1 5 years ago
John Edwards for President 2008
arpgj 5 years ago