Mr Brimelow is doing a great service to his adopted country. And he doesnt oppose all legal immigration obviously, but a moratorium for number of years
After having read a lot of Mr. Brinlow's thoughful commentary I am seeing him now for the first time on video and my reaction is... yikes. He mumbles to the point of being incomprehensible, and the sway is hugely distracting.
@AHighPwner - I know he's a lawful U.S. citizen... precisely my point. Why then, does he oppose LEGAL immigration if he himself is a beneficiary of this legitimate and established process that most countries have? This is why: Self-righteousness. He obviously thinks he's better than any naturalized U.S. citizen. Go figure.
this idiot Brimelow is himself an immigrant! He was born in Cheshire, England and came to America like the people he wants to deport. Althouth it's possible that he didn't come here illegaly, the moron also opposes legal immigration. He does not like naturalized citizens or resident aliens. How dare he... what a hypocrite!!
@AHighPwner - I know he's a lawful U.S. citizen... precisely my point. Why then, does he oppose LEGAL immigration if he himself is a beneficiary of this legitimate and established process that most countries have? This is why: Self-righteousness. He obviously thinks he's better than any naturalized U.S. citizen. Go figure
@sanfermusic Its because he's Bruitish. The British were the FIRST Americans, really. And so any British person is naturally more American than some Somali, Mexican, or Pakistani immigrant.
@ktxus05 "the British were the FIRST Americans". That's a very bizarre statement! There were indigineous people in this conitnent, before the Europeans arrived. Weren't they the FIRST Americans. And the immigrants who came later, British, French, Spanish, Italian, Irish, etc. etc. Ktxus, what an idiot!
@budgieman I didn't say the British were the first to inhabit the land that is now America - I said they were the first AMERICANS. Not all Indians were granted citizenship until 1924, and they contributed almost nothing to the development of America. And don't accuse me of hating non-British Americans, I am only minutely British myself (primarily German, Italian, Irish, and Cherokee). But you see, unlike many people, I don't stand up just for my own ethnic groups, I stand up for the truth.
Oh, and remember "conservative" republican Linda Chavez, who George Dubbya couldn't appoint because she herself had hired illegals as servants in her household?
Not only is she on the Board of Directors for ABM, who just got nailed BIG TIME under the Obama administration, but she is also a Director of Pilgrim's Pride, the Texas meat packers who got busted for the same thing--see below.
So you think Republican don't play a major role in illegal immigration?
Obama repealed the appellate court decision to prosecute private employers for hiring illegal undocumented workers is because Obama has received huge donations of soft money from them. Money influences Washington fucktard. Business that hire illegal workers are inbed with the democratic party. It's that simple. Ever heard of quid pro quo? Obama gets money from his liberal business partners for him to revoke the courts from prosecuting them for hiring illegal workers. :) get a fucking clue ;)
I mean, which party is pushing for illegal amnesty here? Demoshits
I know that money influenced obamas decision to repeal the judicial courts. Liberal business partners love illegals because they don't have to pay taxes. Kinda like half of obamas cabinet such as obamas chief assistant sec of treasury mark Patterson with $35,000 in unpaid taxes
sizeable list? O yea, Smithfield foods donate soft money to mike mcintyre, larry kissell, and Kay hagan. All white democrat hicks, just like you ;)
Who repealed the judicial appellate court decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegal aliens?
Which partys' political machine in chicago used federal funds to fund illegal underage girls from Argentina for child prostitution?
Which party received the most donations from mortgage giant Frannie Mae. The same mortgage giant that sold toxic assets from foreclosured homes at adjustable rate mortgages to unqualified low-income illegal aliens for profit?
Wow, took you this long to conjure that weak ass argument?
Frannie Mae with their adjustable mortgage rates and unethical loan practices to subdue illegal aliens into buying homes for profit motivation
CNN times, a legitimate news source, have reported 66% of trial law firms are members of the democratic party who represent businesses that employ undocumentated workers ;)
You're too fucking dumb to see that democrats are trying to usher an amnesty bill for illegal aliens
What's this "Frannie" Mae thing you're talking about? Nice irony when you call me "dumb".
The political persuasion of a defense attorney means nothing. It's rather refreshing to hear that Republicans are hiring Democrats to defend them in a court of law.
Seriously, check out what Glenn Beck has to say about George Dubbya misleading the public so that big business can hire chep mexican labor.
Obama is getting congress to enact legislation to make Pedro a legal citizen ;) what more could a democrat want? a large illiterate mass of voters ;) kinda like you
I know the democrats are the good shepard. Looking out for their liberal business counterparts that are heavy weights in finance contribution to the party. Who cares if they hire undocumented workers in California, it's power over principle.
If you're perpetuating this fucking liberal nonsense that illegals come here because of "republican" business hiring them for cheap labor, why are "republicans" pushing for harsher immigration reform and extraditing them back to their country, while demoshits are urging them to cross the border? Wouldn't that be an oxymoron thing to do, deporting your cheap labor back to their country? Are you just this fucking stupid & complacent with your retarded comments? Are you a highschool drop out?
@jlane4512 Illegal labor is perceived to take away jobs from Unionized laborers. Market forces dictate that cheaper production costs hurt legal, albeit unionized, workers.
You assume that unionized laborers make minimum wage. That's not the case.
Illegal aliens do not take away jobs from unions dumbass. In order to be in a union, you are required
to provide proof of citizenship in order to recieve union benefits
market dictates cheaper production hurt union employees? The only way for business to save cost is tocut labor. You can thank democrats for lowering tariffs on imports and raising the federal income tax rate on middle income families. Good, I hope your fucking ass gets canned
since you espouse and foster yourself as articulate and inteligent on policy and trade relations, which market corresponds to the market price for the cost of production? Is it the commodity markets or the industrial markets?
You say cheap production costs hurt union workers; I'm just curious to know, if you even know, which market dictates the price of raw material.
@odinata Absolutely. Both mainstream parties have been soft on illegals, and don't even consider settign new restrictions on legal immigration (we accept over a million a year, most from the third world, and Bush doesn't seem to give a damn). Neoconservatives have infiltrated the Republican Party, but socialism has been the game of Democrats for years. Both parties are messed up beyond repair, but I think the Republicans are the lesser of two evils.
@odinata Actually, I just finished Pat Buchanan's "Death of the West" and "Day of Reckoning," so I think myself quite well-informed regarding the neo-conservative movement and George "Dubbyah" Bush in particular. I never said I agree with them - on many issues they seem like liberals, quite frankly. Their silly crusade to bring "peace and democracy" to every Muslim and third-world dictatorship is pure folly. But they aren't as bad as Obama and the Democrats, no way.
@odinata Ron Paul is a Republican, I thought? Or is he a Libertarian? I could have sworn he ran for the Republican nomination in 2008. But if he was a Republican, then that is my point exactly. you don't find guys like him working for the Democrats, but the Republicans, even the neo-cons, at least tolerate him. They also tolerated Pat Buchanan, who was very big in the party until the creeping of neo-conservative ideology into the party forced him to leave and run for the Reform Party.
The guy who is calling it "Frannie" Mae is accusing me of being illiterate. Classic!
Republicans love the cheap labor. Catholics love the influx of more fecund, third-world Catholics. And Americans loves all the labor that get's done for them.
" Minneapolis — One of the largest immigration crackdowns under the Obama administration to date took place in the Twin Cities last month, when 1,200 undocumented janitors were fired from their jobs, according to immigration lawyers.
The janitors worked for ABM, a San Francisco-based contract company that cleans many downtown office towers in the Twin Cities. "
ABM Janitorial, a subsidiary of ABM Industries.
Hey what do you know? Linda Chavez serves on the Board of Directors for ABM.
one, Obama repealed the appellate federal court decision to prosecute businesses that hire ilegal aliens.
And two, going by CNN Times (Your kind of "news" source) 66% of businesses that hire illegals are defended by trial law firms owned by members in the democratic party
Democrats pet money machine ACORN help aid under age illegal aliens from Argentina come to the USA as sex slaves
Obama repealed the decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegals? If that's true there's going to be a lot of happy republican business owners out there.
WASHINGTON, April 20 — The apprehension on Wednesday of more than 1,100 illegal immigrants employed by a Houston-based pallet supply company, as well as the arrest of seven of its managers.
...immigration officials apprehended 1,187 illegal immigrants who worked in 26 states for IFCO Systems North America, a company that supplies plastic and wood pallets used to ship everything from produce to pet food.
President David S Russel, Republican and contributor to Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe
"...immigration officials apprehended 1,187 illegal immigrants who worked in 26 states for IFCO Systems North America, a company that supplies plastic and wood pallets used to ship everything from produce to pet food.
Company supervisors knowingly hired illegal immigrants, provided them with housing and transportation to and from work, and even reimbursed one undercover agent for the cost of obtaining fraudulent identity documents, Homeland Security Department officials said."
Yea, Smithfield farms contributes to democrats like McIntyre, Kissell, & Hagan
I'm glad you know how to copy an paste from bias opinions. Not news. You're a fucking joke :)
democrats are so against illegal immigration that our democrat president "repealed" a federal appellate court decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegal aliens ;)
"CNN Times, 66% of businesses that hire illegal aliens inthis country are represented by democratic friendly trial law firms."
Are you trying to imply that the largest pork producer in the world is some kind of "Liberal Democrat" corporation? By the way, its Smithfield FOODS, brainiac. Smithfield CEO Larry Pope is a REPUBLICAN 80% of their PAC contributions go to Republicans Which one of my quotes were my opinions, not facts? IFCO Systems was busted? Wal-mart busted? Smithfield? Pilgrims Pride? Agriprocessors? ABX Air? Swift?
Republicans hire democratic "friendly" law firms after they get busted, and that somehow means its no longer Republican money going to illegals in the first place?
Nice try. Fail.
What is the party affiliation of most trial lawyers, anyway?
So far you haven't refuted a single point. Your skills and intellectual capacity are the real joke here.
You're just another Jesus freak from Hickville who hates whatever your hick church tells you to hate.
Smithfield Foods - After ICE agents raided the Tar Heel, NC plant and arrested 21 illegal alien workers, 500 workers with fake Social Security numbers were promptly fired from the factory. Another raid in August 2007, netted 28 more illegal aliens, all were from Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras.
The world largest pork producer contributes to the REPUBLICAN party.
Yea, I know Smithfield foods very well ;) so do democratic representatives like Mike McIntyre ;)
California Political News
The Obama administration has repealed a rule that would have threatened employers with prosecution that hired illegal workers whose Social Security numbers did not match entries in a government database, ending a two-year battle in a San Francisco federal court.
once again, you're full of shit. Democrats want to help democrat friendly businesses hire illegal aliens :)
On April 16, 2007, ICE agents arrested 311 illegal aliens working at five Pilgrims Pride sites. Of the 311 arrested, 91 were charged with other criminal violations.
In December 2004, George W. Bush nominated Kerik as Secretary of Homeland Security. A week later, Kerik withdrew his acceptance, explaining that he had employed an illegal immigrant as a nanny.
In 2008, Barack Obama made the nomination to make Tom Daschle head sec of Health and Human Services until news broke out that he had 20 illegal aliens as servants and 300,000 in unpaid taxes.
Just like how ACORN was caught giving tax advice to a pimp importing 13 year old girls from Argentina for his child prostitution business.
We all know that ACORN is the bread and butter of the democratic party ;)
In 2001, President George W. Bush nominated her for Secretary of Labor, but the nomination was withdrawn after it was revealed that she had once employed an illegal immigrant.
October 2007, Steve Lonegan, GOP Gubernatorial candidate was caught red-handed by the police in Bergen County, having hired undocumented aliens to put up lawn signs for his "non-profit" organization, Americans for Prosperity.
The Associated Press reports that at first Lonegan said the workers "approached his taxpayer advocacy organization . . . looking for work." (AP 10/13/07)
"400 workers were arrested in the May 12 raid at the Agriprocessors Inc. plant in Postville - or more than one-third of the total number of employees - proves that company officials must have known they were hiring illegal immigrants."
Agriprocessors owner Aaron Rubashkin - in an organized labor fight in " is a Republican.He has donated over $20,000 to the Republican party, and his family members have donated some as well."
I mean, you chose the San francisco Chronicles? Come on, all they write are bias liberal opinions, not news. Give me a fucking break. Get some credible news source. Do you not know how to type a work cited page? You have no ethos friend
isn't it funny how Fresno, San Luis Obispo, Orange County, & other agriculture counties in California elected democratic representatives and won by Barack
Embrace your party of bigotry & their superior/inferior mentality
"CINCINNATI — Federal officials found that more than 1,000 illegal immigrants worked over a five-year period as freight sorters at ABX Air Inc. in Wilmington, leading to an indictment of a Tennessee-based business, its Ohio affiliate and its top executives, according to federal court records unsealed Tuesday"
"The Canadian political operative hired by the California Republican Party on a coveted H1B visa to do campaign consulting has been fired after it was revealed he was apparently working in violation of immigration law.
The dismissal, announced this week, came after The Chronicle reported last month that Christopher Matthews apparently violated federal immigration law when he also earned money from a second employer. "
Ron Nehring, chair of the California Republican Party, hired Michael Kamburowski, an Australian alien jailed by Homeland Security on visa violations, as Chief Operating Officer as the state GOP's chief operations officer. He made
Why dont you educate yourself and see the districts that democrats like Pelosi, Reid, an Dodd represent. The average household income is well over $500,000.00 ;)
Even oil billionaire jay rockefeller is a democrat, John Kerry who married into the Heinz family is a billionaire.
Why do I have rich celeberities like Ashton kutcher telling me to vote democrap ;)
biggest contributor to the democrats political action committee has been Goldman Sachs & Merrill Lynch
So it is your assertion that the majority of illegal aliens are hired by Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs,GM, GE, Petroleum Strategic, Chrysler, Apple, Fannie Mae, Country Wide, etc.
Do you have any specific examples of even one of these companies hiring illegals?
your friend pedro is an illegal alien. Then do your patriotic duty instead of trying to pass him off as evidence of your false assertion that the businesses that hire illegals don't vote republican.
Folleow the money, and do the research, genius.
And tell me I vote democrat. Hillarious.
California is predominately a red state--the overwhelming majority of counties--THE ONES WITH THE AGRICULTURE--are RED.
but here is another example as to why I think you're full of ca ca
"Map of California highlighting San Luis Obispo County Wine grapes are by far the largest agricultural crop in the county, .... part of California's 23rd congressional district, which is held by Democrat Lois"
Educated my ass. You can't even do the basic research to realize that personal servants don't constitute a DROP IN THE BUCKET as far as the illegal immigration problem is concerned, you ignorant piece of filth.
FAIL, loser.
Sounds like you and your buddy Pedro are happy with the alien problem the way it is.
I'm still waiting on the link to prove your point. You still haven't. You're just full of shit :)
while Pedro is working in the grape vine county in California that's being represented by an "elected" democrat, you can just keep lieing to yourself :)
O' and by the way moron, democrats hire illegals. Why do you think states like California and New Mexico vote democratic. Big businesses whose work force consist of child labor are huge campaign donors to the democratic party.
Will California Ever Go Red? (Fresno, Clovis: statistics, move ...
Look at all the agriculture counties turning blue .... What's happened in the Central Valley is that Latinos vote Democratic & vote in larger numbers now. Monterey & San Benito counties are also entirely agriculture,
I pull this shit off the web proving agriculture counties vot democratic :) it's o k, embrace your illegal hiring status of your party as your own who also supported slavery.
"In 2005 Wal-Mart agreed to pay $11 million to settle a federal investigation that found hundreds of illegal immigrants were hired by Wal-Mart's cleaning contractors."
"In December 2006, in the largest such crackdown in American history, U.S. federal immigration authorities raided Swift & Co. meat-processing plants in six U.S. states, arresting about 1,300 illegal immigrant employees."
Tell me HM Capital Partners of Dallas Texas--owners of Swift at the time--is Liberal OR Democrat.
Don't bother trying. Tom Hicks, founder, is a REPUBLICAN,was recently a member of the political action committee for the 2008 presidential election campaign for Rudy Giuliani.
No liberal businesses hire undocumented workers. That's why attorney generals in every democratic state like California are laxed about prosecuting their counterparts for hiring illegal aliens. It's an intelligent process.
The most corrupted person on wallstreet is Bernard madoff. He publicly financed both the clintons and the obamas. You know the same guy who extorted 100 billion in embezzlement of peoples lucrative retirement investment stocks?
Isn't the richest woman oprah Winfrey a democrap?
Isn't jay Rockefeller a liberal democrat? Big business are inbed with the democratic party
Summers is obamas cheif economic advisor who was also the COO of Goldman sachs.
If you don't like illegals why don't you call or write to your congressman or senator telling him or her that you're sick and tired of democrats giving away your money to non US citizens. Better yet, why don't you call governor democratic governor Bill Richardson of new Mexico to stop giving away government contracts to overseas employers because Americans want jobs in the USA and not in Central America.
Would you please stop being a fag, uneducated liberal fuck. I perfer women ;)
Yea, state and congressional democrats out source government contracts to foreign employers in exchange for soft money political contribution while Americans are left out of work.
Better yet, businesses will donate money to state congressional democrats in california for their re-election campaign fund inexchange for them to claim pen ship or may have ghost written themselves an amendment that favors their big business to hire illegal aliens as undocumented workers. It's called quid pro quo.
Speakng of ad hominems, could you please be germane with your comments?
Are you insinuating that I am not a Christian. Who are you to judge? Im sure since you're a liberal that you're an atheist who doesn't believe in a higher power how can you assume what is a good Christian or bad one? Why should you care? You don't believe in Yeshua, but I do! Do you even read the beatitudes?
Actually NAFTA has benefited both central and south Americas economy in the textile industry and it has helped bring down the cost of goods and low tariff imports. Obama repealed it because he is friends with Chavez, another socialist asshole/dictator.
NAFTA has left Latin America with economic prosperity, competitive manufactured goods, low tariffs, and an expansion of jobs and an increase standard of living
Of course, you being the liberal that you are, I assume all this is horrible and Chavez being a de facto socialist leader is your hero. Repeal NAFTA to allow the drug cartels from Chavez to flow from south America into north America
Did I mention Chavez kills his own people for speaking agianst him. Obama calls him his amigo, how sweet
But you are a liberal. Nothing that comes out of your mouth makes sense.
Most of the influx of illegals are in your liberal states like California. That's how liberal businesses are able to pay a higher tax in California. They hire undocumented aliens to work here illegal with cheaper wages and no benefits
Guess what bitch. California is bankrupt asking 8 billion from the federal government.
California, after decades managed from the left in the state legislature and governship, the left has finally made California broke with all the welfare programs that the state budget couldn't support.
You fucking retard. California, after Reagan has always went to the left. California state congress is controlled by the democrats. Fucking pelosi was a state senator before she became speaker of the house at the federal level.
California electoral delegates are represented by their district. California has remained blue
California, after decades managed by the far left has went belly up. Half of Californias population are illegal aliens receiving food stamps and medicaid started by democrats.
Who really cares about child labor laws. Some of the democrats biggest donors are from businesses that use child sweatshops in foreign countries. Hypocritical don't you think.
Plus, if you buy a 5 dollar shirt then you're a hypocrit yourself. Americans want cheap priced items so business have to find cheap labor inorder for Americans to purchase shit at a cheap price.
Who gives them the fucking money through welfare programs? Democrats bitch.
Who pays for these welfare programs? Taxpayers
who fucking promises to add more people to the welfare payroll? Democrats
Who promises to increase spending on welfare and threatening people that if you vote for a republican they will cut these entitlement programs? Democrats
you have got to be the biggest fucking idiot. Because of people like you, we have a fucking community organizer in the white house
democrats don't care of your legal are not. They just want your vote. You're the fucking dumb ass to vote for a government check inexchange for your freedom.
During reconstruction, southern republicans were elected for the first time to state legislatures & were the first to charter public schools in the south for both blacks & whites that southern & northern democraps opposed. Southern democrats despised the idea of a educated Negro & a Negro that owned his own property thanks to lincolns bureau refugee of freedmen & abandon lands.
The impoverished communities today are managed by democrats.
It must suck to be a dumb inbred liberal like yourself
I have you know that the social equalities people enjoy today are done by denominations of the Christian faith.
Try reading about Harriet Beecher stowe, Julia Louisa lovejoy, William Lloyd garrison, Benjamin Lundy, John brown, nat turner, Frederick Douglas, Grimke sisters, all Christians that stood up to despot democrats in the north and south
You're just a nitwitted moron. Who sets the minimum wage? The federal government
why is it in states like new Mexico and california have the most illegal alien immigration problem? Because the democratic controlled states passed legislation to legally hire undocumented workers and for illegals to recieve Medicaid.
Your bitching about how the fucking jobs are going to illegals and I'm fucking telling you that in states like California and new Mexico, the democratic state congress passed laws making it legal for undocumented workers to work.
No, democrats just smile and take your fucking money.
Who puts money in illegal alien pockets? Democrats :) it's called Medicaid, foodstamp, and the bank of America credit card (democrats serve as board members/shareholders also serve on the securities and exchange commission in the house and senate)
Sympathetic liberal policy my ass! If Obama gave 2 fucks about you, why is it his brother George Obama still lives in a mud hut in timbuktu?
Yea, eat shit liberal
sympathetic policy my ass. I guess it was sympathetic of democrats to abolish the school voucher program in the district of Columbia. They don't want those poor kids going to their prestige private school
I can see you don't really care about the issues, you just want to sling mud, slander, and throw your punches. Don't blame you. You don't seem too smart, and DAMN! You are one UGLY dude! You should change your avatar. Seriously. You look like your mom sniffed paint and your dad drank terpentine--and then beat you.
Unlike you I don't support a healthcare bill that subsidizes abortions and euthanize seniors by cutting Medicare and adding over a 300 billion dollars crippling those seniors on fixed income.
Ugly? Are you talking from personal experience? Besides, aren't you gay for judging other guy on his looks? Lol
No, big businesses paid democrats in the system state legislature like California and new Mexico to enact state laws that is conducive for good business by hiring undocumented workers.
Big business paid Democrats? And they didn't pay Republicans? Are you serious? Are you really that biased? Come on! California is the third largest economic powerhouse in the world(or fourth, or something)--its huge. You don't think Democrats AND Republicans are itching to get their hands on that? Yoohoo--Ronald Reagan, Grey, Hollywood--etc.
O no. Democrats are all about big business. Frannie Mae, Goldman sachs, lehman brothers, AT&T, Chrysler, liberty mutual, JP Morgan, medical industry distributor, apple, citibank, etc are all huge donors to democratic party in soft money.
What the fuck? Who do you think the recipients are for this healthcare? Why is the next immigration legislation from the democrats is to create amnesty to illegals here?
Illegal aliens get Medicaid and food stamps. Why do you think democrats are not in favor of enacting harsh border security and immigration control.
Whose creating lax immigration law and immigrants coming here illegally for work. Democrats dumb ass, not republicans
Why are democrats next agenda is to give amnesty to illegals living here?
I know illegals don't pay taxes, that's why they're laughing at your fucking ass because they get all the welfare help and not having to pay for it.
Why do you think democrats want illegals to come here? Why do illegals come here and have their kids born on US soil. It's all about entitlement programs an democrats use them for their autocratic power.
Who takes money from those who are productive and give it to the unproductive members in society? Democrats
cheap labor? Democrats don't care about child labor, their biggest donors to the democratic party come from businesses that use child labor sweatshops.
Democrats love illegals. That's why they don't enforce any immigration law. That's why democrats want to create amnesty to those living here illegally to become US citizens and their meal ticket for the democratic party ;)
Cut the tax rate, repeal the 16th amendment, and somehow that magically erases the immigration problem CONSERVATIVES created by hiring CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR.
Mr Brimelow is doing a great service to his adopted country. And he doesnt oppose all legal immigration obviously, but a moratorium for number of years
david1965af 1 year ago
After having read a lot of Mr. Brinlow's thoughful commentary I am seeing him now for the first time on video and my reaction is... yikes. He mumbles to the point of being incomprehensible, and the sway is hugely distracting.
mac195000 1 year ago
@AHighPwner - I know he's a lawful U.S. citizen... precisely my point. Why then, does he oppose LEGAL immigration if he himself is a beneficiary of this legitimate and established process that most countries have? This is why: Self-righteousness. He obviously thinks he's better than any naturalized U.S. citizen. Go figure.
sanfermusic 1 year ago
this idiot Brimelow is himself an immigrant! He was born in Cheshire, England and came to America like the people he wants to deport. Althouth it's possible that he didn't come here illegaly, the moron also opposes legal immigration. He does not like naturalized citizens or resident aliens. How dare he... what a hypocrite!!
sanfermusic 1 year ago
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AHighPwner 1 year ago
@AHighPwner - I know he's a lawful U.S. citizen... precisely my point. Why then, does he oppose LEGAL immigration if he himself is a beneficiary of this legitimate and established process that most countries have? This is why: Self-righteousness. He obviously thinks he's better than any naturalized U.S. citizen. Go figure
sanfermusic 1 year ago
@sanfermusic Its because he's Bruitish. The British were the FIRST Americans, really. And so any British person is naturally more American than some Somali, Mexican, or Pakistani immigrant.
ktxus05 1 year ago
@ktxus05 "the British were the FIRST Americans". That's a very bizarre statement! There were indigineous people in this conitnent, before the Europeans arrived. Weren't they the FIRST Americans. And the immigrants who came later, British, French, Spanish, Italian, Irish, etc. etc. Ktxus, what an idiot!
budgieman 1 year ago
@budgieman I didn't say the British were the first to inhabit the land that is now America - I said they were the first AMERICANS. Not all Indians were granted citizenship until 1924, and they contributed almost nothing to the development of America. And don't accuse me of hating non-British Americans, I am only minutely British myself (primarily German, Italian, Irish, and Cherokee). But you see, unlike many people, I don't stand up just for my own ethnic groups, I stand up for the truth.
ktxus05 1 year ago
Oh, and remember "conservative" republican Linda Chavez, who George Dubbya couldn't appoint because she herself had hired illegals as servants in her household?
Not only is she on the Board of Directors for ABM, who just got nailed BIG TIME under the Obama administration, but she is also a Director of Pilgrim's Pride, the Texas meat packers who got busted for the same thing--see below.
So you think Republican don't play a major role in illegal immigration?
You haven't got a pot to piss in.
odinata 2 years ago
Obama repealed the appellate court decision to prosecute private employers for hiring illegal undocumented workers is because Obama has received huge donations of soft money from them. Money influences Washington fucktard. Business that hire illegal workers are inbed with the democratic party. It's that simple. Ever heard of quid pro quo? Obama gets money from his liberal business partners for him to revoke the courts from prosecuting them for hiring illegal workers. :) get a fucking clue ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
Iv'e already given you a sizeable list of Business who are in bed with the REPUBLICAN Party, hick.
Illegal aliens have already been arrested while working for Republican led businesses UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
Are you even trying?
odinata 2 years ago
I mean, which party is pushing for illegal amnesty here? Demoshits
I know that money influenced obamas decision to repeal the judicial courts. Liberal business partners love illegals because they don't have to pay taxes. Kinda like half of obamas cabinet such as obamas chief assistant sec of treasury mark Patterson with $35,000 in unpaid taxes
sizeable list? O yea, Smithfield foods donate soft money to mike mcintyre, larry kissell, and Kay hagan. All white democrat hicks, just like you ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
Smithfield donates 80% republican.
Fail.
Walmart?
Swift?
ABM Industries?
Pilgrims Pride?
ABX?
Agriprocessors?
IFCO?
That's right. Republicans.
odinata 2 years ago
Who repealed the judicial appellate court decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegal aliens?
Which partys' political machine in chicago used federal funds to fund illegal underage girls from Argentina for child prostitution?
Which party received the most donations from mortgage giant Frannie Mae. The same mortgage giant that sold toxic assets from foreclosured homes at adjustable rate mortgages to unqualified low-income illegal aliens for profit?
All democrats :)
Eat shit
jlane4512 2 years ago
You've got one example. Other than that, all you can do is move the goalposts.
You're gonna make a great lawyer.
Who's the guy who knows an illegal alien working illegally in the US and has done nothing about it?
The hypocrite. You.
odinata 2 years ago
Wow, took you this long to conjure that weak ass argument?
Frannie Mae with their adjustable mortgage rates and unethical loan practices to subdue illegal aliens into buying homes for profit motivation
CNN times, a legitimate news source, have reported 66% of trial law firms are members of the democratic party who represent businesses that employ undocumentated workers ;)
You're too fucking dumb to see that democrats are trying to usher an amnesty bill for illegal aliens
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Sorry Bubba. I was doing other things.
What's this "Frannie" Mae thing you're talking about? Nice irony when you call me "dumb".
The political persuasion of a defense attorney means nothing. It's rather refreshing to hear that Republicans are hiring Democrats to defend them in a court of law.
Seriously, check out what Glenn Beck has to say about George Dubbya misleading the public so that big business can hire chep mexican labor.
(No offense to your friend Pedro)
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Hate what Obama is doing for illegal immigrants?
Check out what Glenn Beck has to say about George Dubbya's refusal to penalize businesses that hire illegals.
Say hi to Pedro for me.
odinata 2 years ago
Obama is getting congress to enact legislation to make Pedro a legal citizen ;) what more could a democrat want? a large illiterate mass of voters ;) kinda like you
I know the democrats are the good shepard. Looking out for their liberal business counterparts that are heavy weights in finance contribution to the party. Who cares if they hire undocumented workers in California, it's power over principle.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Right. Why do democrats want to legalize illegals? To pad their union base. Is that what brought them here in the first place? No.
Its the policies and practices of Neoconservatives and the businesses that support their fiscal ideals.
Cheap illegal labor.
George Bush refused to prosecute businesses hiring illegals for years.
odinata 2 years ago
If you're perpetuating this fucking liberal nonsense that illegals come here because of "republican" business hiring them for cheap labor, why are "republicans" pushing for harsher immigration reform and extraditing them back to their country, while demoshits are urging them to cross the border? Wouldn't that be an oxymoron thing to do, deporting your cheap labor back to their country? Are you just this fucking stupid & complacent with your retarded comments? Are you a highschool drop out?
jlane4512 2 years ago
Why didn't George Bush see fit to punish businesses that hire illegals?
Unions certainly don't want illegal labor driving down the wages of their constituents?
Why did the conservative Wal-mart hire illegals?
Why did the Republican Smithfield hire them?
Why did the Republican Swift hire them?
Why did the Republican ABX hire them?
Why did Neocon Linda Chavez hire them, and why did the firms that she chairs hire them?
Why did the California GOP hire them?
odinata 2 years ago
What the fuck? Illegal labor driving down the wages of other workers?
Are you smoking crack?
Its federal law that American citizens are to be paid the federal minimum wage. If businesses break that law, they are subject to fees and fines.
So, how does hiring illegal aliens bring the minimum wage down?
Please, explain you dumbing fucking hick ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512 Illegal labor is perceived to take away jobs from Unionized laborers. Market forces dictate that cheaper production costs hurt legal, albeit unionized, workers.
You assume that unionized laborers make minimum wage. That's not the case.
odinata 2 years ago
Illegal aliens do not take away jobs from unions dumbass. In order to be in a union, you are required
to provide proof of citizenship in order to recieve union benefits
market dictates cheaper production hurt union employees? The only way for business to save cost is tocut labor. You can thank democrats for lowering tariffs on imports and raising the federal income tax rate on middle income families. Good, I hope your fucking ass gets canned
change :)
So, please explain to me
jlane4512 2 years ago
Odinata, so tell me hick
since you espouse and foster yourself as articulate and inteligent on policy and trade relations, which market corresponds to the market price for the cost of production? Is it the commodity markets or the industrial markets?
You say cheap production costs hurt union workers; I'm just curious to know, if you even know, which market dictates the price of raw material.
Take your time googling my question ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@odinata Absolutely. Both mainstream parties have been soft on illegals, and don't even consider settign new restrictions on legal immigration (we accept over a million a year, most from the third world, and Bush doesn't seem to give a damn). Neoconservatives have infiltrated the Republican Party, but socialism has been the game of Democrats for years. Both parties are messed up beyond repair, but I think the Republicans are the lesser of two evils.
ktxus05 1 year ago
@ktxus05
You must not be familiar with the Bush family, their history, or the Neocon agenda.
odinata 1 year ago
@odinata Actually, I just finished Pat Buchanan's "Death of the West" and "Day of Reckoning," so I think myself quite well-informed regarding the neo-conservative movement and George "Dubbyah" Bush in particular. I never said I agree with them - on many issues they seem like liberals, quite frankly. Their silly crusade to bring "peace and democracy" to every Muslim and third-world dictatorship is pure folly. But they aren't as bad as Obama and the Democrats, no way.
ktxus05 1 year ago
@ktxus05
"Not as bad" is an opinion--one you are welcome to.
I tend to agree with Ron Paul and others, who fear the Neo-con agenda is not a valid choice in the false dichotomy of "the lesser of two evils".
odinata 1 year ago
@odinata Ron Paul is a Republican, I thought? Or is he a Libertarian? I could have sworn he ran for the Republican nomination in 2008. But if he was a Republican, then that is my point exactly. you don't find guys like him working for the Democrats, but the Republicans, even the neo-cons, at least tolerate him. They also tolerated Pat Buchanan, who was very big in the party until the creeping of neo-conservative ideology into the party forced him to leave and run for the Reform Party.
ktxus05 1 year ago
@ktxus05
I got it. You are willing to tolerate the Project for a New American Century, Enron, Blackwater, and the Bush Family Agenda.
Knock yourself out.
odinata 1 year ago
The guy who is calling it "Frannie" Mae is accusing me of being illiterate. Classic!
Republicans love the cheap labor. Catholics love the influx of more fecund, third-world Catholics. And Americans loves all the labor that get's done for them.
Have another Wal-mart ham sandwich, hick.
odinata 2 years ago
" Minneapolis — One of the largest immigration crackdowns under the Obama administration to date took place in the Twin Cities last month, when 1,200 undocumented janitors were fired from their jobs, according to immigration lawyers.
The janitors worked for ABM, a San Francisco-based contract company that cleans many downtown office towers in the Twin Cities. "
ABM Janitorial, a subsidiary of ABM Industries.
Hey what do you know? Linda Chavez serves on the Board of Directors for ABM.
odinata 2 years ago
Nothing you said on here beats the fact that.....
one, Obama repealed the appellate federal court decision to prosecute businesses that hire ilegal aliens.
And two, going by CNN Times (Your kind of "news" source) 66% of businesses that hire illegals are defended by trial law firms owned by members in the democratic party
Democrats pet money machine ACORN help aid under age illegal aliens from Argentina come to the USA as sex slaves
by the way white hick, I'm part Muscogee ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
If you recall, you started your filthy diatribe by denying that REPUBLICAN MONEY FEEDS ILLEGALS.
I have proven that you are wrong.
You have shown that you are incompetent.
If you think Obama caused the illegal immigration problem over the past12 months, you're an idiot--its been going on for years.
How many ACORN sex slaves are there?
What beats the party affiliation of trial lawyers?
How 'bout the party affiliation of the people HIRING THE ILLEGALS IN THE FIRST PLACE?
odinata 2 years ago
Obama repealed the decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegals? If that's true there's going to be a lot of happy republican business owners out there.
odinata 2 years ago
WASHINGTON, April 20 — The apprehension on Wednesday of more than 1,100 illegal immigrants employed by a Houston-based pallet supply company, as well as the arrest of seven of its managers.
...immigration officials apprehended 1,187 illegal immigrants who worked in 26 states for IFCO Systems North America, a company that supplies plastic and wood pallets used to ship everything from produce to pet food.
President David S Russel, Republican and contributor to Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe
odinata 2 years ago
"...immigration officials apprehended 1,187 illegal immigrants who worked in 26 states for IFCO Systems North America, a company that supplies plastic and wood pallets used to ship everything from produce to pet food.
Company supervisors knowingly hired illegal immigrants, provided them with housing and transportation to and from work, and even reimbursed one undercover agent for the cost of obtaining fraudulent identity documents, Homeland Security Department officials said."
NYTimes 2006
odinata 2 years ago
Yea, Smithfield farms contributes to democrats like McIntyre, Kissell, & Hagan
I'm glad you know how to copy an paste from bias opinions. Not news. You're a fucking joke :)
democrats are so against illegal immigration that our democrat president "repealed" a federal appellate court decision to prosecute businesses that hire illegal aliens ;)
"CNN Times, 66% of businesses that hire illegal aliens inthis country are represented by democratic friendly trial law firms."
that says it all ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
odinata 2 years ago
Republicans hire democratic "friendly" law firms after they get busted, and that somehow means its no longer Republican money going to illegals in the first place?
Nice try. Fail.
What is the party affiliation of most trial lawyers, anyway?
So far you haven't refuted a single point. Your skills and intellectual capacity are the real joke here.
You're just another Jesus freak from Hickville who hates whatever your hick church tells you to hate.
odinata 2 years ago
Smithfield Foods - After ICE agents raided the Tar Heel, NC plant and arrested 21 illegal alien workers, 500 workers with fake Social Security numbers were promptly fired from the factory. Another raid in August 2007, netted 28 more illegal aliens, all were from Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras.
The world largest pork producer contributes to the REPUBLICAN party.
odinata 2 years ago
Yea, I know Smithfield foods very well ;) so do democratic representatives like Mike McIntyre ;)
California Political News
The Obama administration has repealed a rule that would have threatened employers with prosecution that hired illegal workers whose Social Security numbers did not match entries in a government database, ending a two-year battle in a San Francisco federal court.
once again, you're full of shit. Democrats want to help democrat friendly businesses hire illegal aliens :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
I'm sure you do know Smithfields foods very well. You look like a guy who loves the pork.
Smithfield Foods donates to Republican candidates 7:1. ;)
Sorry bubba. Keep diggin. Maybe you could bring up Tom Daschle again.
odinata 2 years ago
On April 16, 2007, ICE agents arrested 311 illegal aliens working at five Pilgrims Pride sites. Of the 311 arrested, 91 were charged with other criminal violations.
Lonnie Pilgrim is a Republican.
odinata 2 years ago
Bernard Kerik
In December 2004, George W. Bush nominated Kerik as Secretary of Homeland Security. A week later, Kerik withdrew his acceptance, explaining that he had employed an illegal immigrant as a nanny.
odinata 2 years ago
In 2008, Barack Obama made the nomination to make Tom Daschle head sec of Health and Human Services until news broke out that he had 20 illegal aliens as servants and 300,000 in unpaid taxes.
Just like how ACORN was caught giving tax advice to a pimp importing 13 year old girls from Argentina for his child prostitution business.
We all know that ACORN is the bread and butter of the democratic party ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
Linda Chavez
In 2001, President George W. Bush nominated her for Secretary of Labor, but the nomination was withdrawn after it was revealed that she had once employed an illegal immigrant.
odinata 2 years ago
October 2007, Steve Lonegan, GOP Gubernatorial candidate was caught red-handed by the police in Bergen County, having hired undocumented aliens to put up lawn signs for his "non-profit" organization, Americans for Prosperity.
The Associated Press reports that at first Lonegan said the workers "approached his taxpayer advocacy organization . . . looking for work." (AP 10/13/07)
odinata 2 years ago
"400 workers were arrested in the May 12 raid at the Agriprocessors Inc. plant in Postville - or more than one-third of the total number of employees - proves that company officials must have known they were hiring illegal immigrants."
odinata 2 years ago
Agriprocessors owner Aaron Rubashkin - in an organized labor fight in " is a Republican.He has donated over $20,000 to the Republican party, and his family members have donated some as well."
cleveland.indymedia
odinata 2 years ago
Indymedia isn't a legitimate source
I mean, you chose the San francisco Chronicles? Come on, all they write are bias liberal opinions, not news. Give me a fucking break. Get some credible news source. Do you not know how to type a work cited page? You have no ethos friend
isn't it funny how Fresno, San Luis Obispo, Orange County, & other agriculture counties in California elected democratic representatives and won by Barack
Embrace your party of bigotry & their superior/inferior mentality
jlane4512 2 years ago
So you are claiming that Aaron Rubahkin isn't a Republican?
You are claiming that Christopher Matthews wasn't fired for violating immigration law?
You are claiming that the chair of the Republican Party of California didn't hire an illegal alien who had been jailed?
You want a f***ing break?
Looks like you just gave yourself one by deciding to believe only what you want to believe.
Fail.
odinata 2 years ago
"CINCINNATI — Federal officials found that more than 1,000 illegal immigrants worked over a five-year period as freight sorters at ABX Air Inc. in Wilmington, leading to an indictment of a Tennessee-based business, its Ohio affiliate and its top executives, according to federal court records unsealed Tuesday"
CE0 of ABX Air, Joe Hete. REPUBLICAN.
odinata 2 years ago
"The Canadian political operative hired by the California Republican Party on a coveted H1B visa to do campaign consulting has been fired after it was revealed he was apparently working in violation of immigration law.
The dismissal, announced this week, came after The Chronicle reported last month that Christopher Matthews apparently violated federal immigration law when he also earned money from a second employer. "
-San Francisco Chronicle
odinata 2 years ago
Ron Nehring, chair of the California Republican Party, hired Michael Kamburowski, an Australian alien jailed by Homeland Security on visa violations, as Chief Operating Officer as the state GOP's chief operations officer. He made
$130, 000 a year.
odinata 2 years ago
Where do illegals work?
Service occupations31.0%
Construction 19.0%
Production, installation, repair15.0%
Sales and administration12.0
Management, business and professional10.0%
Transportion, moving8.0%
Farming, other4.0%
odinata 2 years ago
Democrats created the immigration mess!
How?
By hiring them as personal servants like Tom Daschle :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
So the majority of illegal aliens end up as personal servants?
What's the matter? Can't do the research yourself?
Most illegals aren't hired as LABOR
Like the ones Tom Tancredo hired to renovate his MANSION.
odinata 2 years ago
Can you distinguish between an illegal working to remodel your mansion verses an illegal wiping your ass as a personal servant?
Come on democrats hire illegals as maids and butlers, ask Tom daschle
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Your claim was that the problem results from illegals hired as servants.
If you think more illegals are hired as servants than as general labor, you obviously have no idea how to look up a statistic.
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Here's a hint for you, you foul mouthed fake christian.
How many illegal aliens are in America today?
How many are hired by small businesses, entrepenuers, agriculture?
Is it your claim that small business votes democrat? Agriculture?
Now what percent of illegal work as servants for the people rich enough to hire servants.
Now what percentage of those rich people vote democrat (because obviously the rich LOVE the fiscal policies of liberals).
odinata 2 years ago
Yes the rich love liberals.
Why dont you educate yourself and see the districts that democrats like Pelosi, Reid, an Dodd represent. The average household income is well over $500,000.00 ;)
Even oil billionaire jay rockefeller is a democrat, John Kerry who married into the Heinz family is a billionaire.
Why do I have rich celeberities like Ashton kutcher telling me to vote democrap ;)
biggest contributor to the democrats political action committee has been Goldman Sachs & Merrill Lynch
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Why aren't you capable of looking up the statistics?
Are you claiming that the numbers are equal? Or that rich liberals outnumber rich conservatives?
Why don't you educate yourself and learn who hires cheap illegal labor.
Until you are able to do that, pleas spare me your ignorance.
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
How much of the illegal alien problem is hired by Pelosi's democrat constituents
How many rich celebrities are hired by rich celebrities?
How many illegals are hired by Goldman Sachs? Merill Lynch?
odinata 2 years ago
I'm talking about the rich and the democratic party.
Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, GM, GE, Petroleum Strategic, Chrysler, Apple, Fannie Mae, Country Wide, etc are all imbed with the democratic party.
Yes, the democratic party hire illegals as personal servants ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
So it is your assertion that the majority of illegal aliens are hired by Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs,GM, GE, Petroleum Strategic, Chrysler, Apple, Fannie Mae, Country Wide, etc.
Do you have any specific examples of even one of these companies hiring illegals?
odinata 2 years ago
Come on, you can't comprehend what I'm telling you?
I'm telling that all these fortunes 500 companies on wallstreet are inbed with the democratic party.
I'm sure fucking illegal mexicans have their progenitors vote democratic as well.
Don't be such an asswipe and follow the conversation.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I assume that the reason you've resorted to such foul-mouthe slander is that you haven't been able to refute the statistical fact that
illiegals are here because Republicans HIRE them in larger numbers than any other political party.
Not only are you a poor Christioan, but you're an intellectual midget.
odinata 2 years ago
No, my friend Pedro says that his boss that pays him under the table is a democrat.
The only intellectul midget is you
keep voting for the party that ship jobs overseas ;)
it's funny how an agriculture state like california is heavily democrat with all it's illegal aliens
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512 Wow, you are a dim bulb!
your friend pedro is an illegal alien. Then do your patriotic duty instead of trying to pass him off as evidence of your false assertion that the businesses that hire illegals don't vote republican.
Folleow the money, and do the research, genius.
And tell me I vote democrat. Hillarious.
California is predominately a red state--the overwhelming majority of counties--THE ONES WITH THE AGRICULTURE--are RED.
Moron.
odinata 2 years ago
Last time I checked both Clinton and Obama won California ;)
Moron
Like I said, democrats hire illegals as personal servants
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Take a look at the map of california, dipshit.
And then tell me again, which way do the Agricultural counties of california vote?
odinata 2 years ago
Give me the link
but here is another example as to why I think you're full of ca ca
"Map of California highlighting San Luis Obispo County Wine grapes are by far the largest agricultural crop in the county, .... part of California's 23rd congressional district, which is held by Democrat Lois"
later douche
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Google California county by county voting record, douche.
Its red, and you're full of fecies.
Follow the money, dipshit.
odinata 2 years ago
Give me the link that proves your point. If not, shut the fuck up.
Looks like the grape vine county in California has a democratic representative ;)
told you liberals and illegals go hand in hand. Democrats like Tom daschle use them as personal servants
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Educated my ass. You can't even do the basic research to realize that personal servants don't constitute a DROP IN THE BUCKET as far as the illegal immigration problem is concerned, you ignorant piece of filth.
FAIL, loser.
Sounds like you and your buddy Pedro are happy with the alien problem the way it is.
Who hires aliens?
Your replican buddies. Look it up, dipshit.
odinata 2 years ago
I'm still waiting on the link to prove your point. You still haven't. You're just full of shit :)
while Pedro is working in the grape vine county in California that's being represented by an "elected" democrat, you can just keep lieing to yourself :)
O' and by the way moron, democrats hire illegals. Why do you think states like California and New Mexico vote democratic. Big businesses whose work force consist of child labor are huge campaign donors to the democratic party.
jlane4512 2 years ago
Will California Ever Go Red? (Fresno, Clovis: statistics, move ...
Look at all the agriculture counties turning blue .... What's happened in the Central Valley is that Latinos vote Democratic & vote in larger numbers now. Monterey & San Benito counties are also entirely agriculture,
I pull this shit off the web proving agriculture counties vot democratic :) it's o k, embrace your illegal hiring status of your party as your own who also supported slavery.
jlane4512 2 years ago
Your friend Pedro the illegal works in "grape vine" country?
Why have you turned a blind eye to this illegal alien?
odinata 2 years ago
"In 2005 Wal-Mart agreed to pay $11 million to settle a federal investigation that found hundreds of illegal immigrants were hired by Wal-Mart's cleaning contractors."
Tell me Wal-Mart embraces Democrats.
odinata 2 years ago
"In December 2006, in the largest such crackdown in American history, U.S. federal immigration authorities raided Swift & Co. meat-processing plants in six U.S. states, arresting about 1,300 illegal immigrant employees."
Tell me HM Capital Partners of Dallas Texas--owners of Swift at the time--is Liberal OR Democrat.
Don't bother trying. Tom Hicks, founder, is a REPUBLICAN,was recently a member of the political action committee for the 2008 presidential election campaign for Rudy Giuliani.
odinata 2 years ago
Republicans create the immigration mess.
How?
By hiring and paying illegals!
odinata 2 years ago
No liberal businesses hire undocumented workers. That's why attorney generals in every democratic state like California are laxed about prosecuting their counterparts for hiring illegal aliens. It's an intelligent process.
Republicans want tougher immigration laws but democrats want soft compassionate immigration statutes.
jlane4512 2 years ago
Democrats created the immigration mess
how?
By hiring illegals as personal servants :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
Pick and choose.
Doesn't change the facts.
Who puts American Dollars in illegal alien pockets?
Conservatives?
Why?
They hate funding America and they love their riches.
odinata 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about?
The most corrupted person on wallstreet is Bernard madoff. He publicly financed both the clintons and the obamas. You know the same guy who extorted 100 billion in embezzlement of peoples lucrative retirement investment stocks?
Isn't the richest woman oprah Winfrey a democrap?
Isn't jay Rockefeller a liberal democrat? Big business are inbed with the democratic party
Summers is obamas cheif economic advisor who was also the COO of Goldman sachs.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Sounds like you got it figured out.
Good luck to you.
I bet your girlfriend is a real peach.
Seriously though, I would change that avatar.
Or at least pin your ears back.
Don't like illegals?
STOP GIVING THEM MONEY!
odinata 2 years ago
If you don't like illegals why don't you call or write to your congressman or senator telling him or her that you're sick and tired of democrats giving away your money to non US citizens. Better yet, why don't you call governor democratic governor Bill Richardson of new Mexico to stop giving away government contracts to overseas employers because Americans want jobs in the USA and not in Central America.
Would you please stop being a fag, uneducated liberal fuck. I perfer women ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Can't make a difference by writing your congressman--Republicans keep hiring illegals 'cause they're cheap.
The only way to stop illegals is to
STOP GIVING ILLEGALS MONEY!
Who's giving illegals money?
REPUBLICANS
odinata 2 years ago
Yea, state and congressional democrats out source government contracts to foreign employers in exchange for soft money political contribution while Americans are left out of work.
Better yet, businesses will donate money to state congressional democrats in california for their re-election campaign fund inexchange for them to claim pen ship or may have ghost written themselves an amendment that favors their big business to hire illegal aliens as undocumented workers. It's called quid pro quo.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
"...more cordial introduction..."
"Fag". "Uneducated f***"
Wow. You are a typical country bumkin.
And you call yourself a Christian.
Keep up the good work.
odinata 2 years ago
Typical country bumpkin? You sound hillbillish.
Actually, I am Portuguese, Dutch, and Cherokee.
Speakng of ad hominems, could you please be germane with your comments?
Are you insinuating that I am not a Christian. Who are you to judge? Im sure since you're a liberal that you're an atheist who doesn't believe in a higher power how can you assume what is a good Christian or bad one? Why should you care? You don't believe in Yeshua, but I do! Do you even read the beatitudes?
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Germane? Like you are?
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I'm sure that since you are such a brilliant Christian, you have found some loophole that allows you to call me a f***ing idiot.
Republicans create this immigration mess.
Your slander doesn't come close to refuting it.
Merry Christmas. Thanks for all the evil bile you spewed at me.
odinata 2 years ago
Democrats created the immigration mess.
California, Arizona, and New Mexico are heavily liberal states with the immigration problem.
And new Mexico governor democrat bill Richardson doesn't mind shipping jobs to foreign employers while Americans are left out of work
Tom daschle has 20 aliens working as personal servants.
jlane4512 2 years ago
So let's start off the next conversation with a more cordial introduction.
Merry Christmas
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Im a little put off by how you called me a "f***ing retard""
Kinda hurt my feelings when you called me an idiot.
Don't like liberals. Okay. do 'em better.
Wise up. If you think the Republican Party is representing your interests, you're not seeing the big picture.
Who gave you NAFTA?
Like the Neocons? Bend over.
Conservatives delivered the Mexicans to your doorstep.
odinata 2 years ago
Actually NAFTA has benefited both central and south Americas economy in the textile industry and it has helped bring down the cost of goods and low tariff imports. Obama repealed it because he is friends with Chavez, another socialist asshole/dictator.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
You a fan of NAFTA?
odinata 2 years ago
NAFTA has left Latin America with economic prosperity, competitive manufactured goods, low tariffs, and an expansion of jobs and an increase standard of living
Of course, you being the liberal that you are, I assume all this is horrible and Chavez being a de facto socialist leader is your hero. Repeal NAFTA to allow the drug cartels from Chavez to flow from south America into north America
Did I mention Chavez kills his own people for speaking agianst him. Obama calls him his amigo, how sweet
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Love how you pigeonhole me--now I'm a "liberal" just because I don't but in to the Conservative propaganda.
I suppose I'm a "fag" and a f***ing idiot", too.
Seems to me you don't like communists.
I don't blame you. Not a big fan myself.
What I don't get is how you're missing this key concept: Conservatives create illegal immigration.
Of course liberals want to incorporate them AFTER they're here--pad their voting base and what not.
Who lures them here?
odinata 2 years ago
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jlane4512 2 years ago
But you are a liberal. Nothing that comes out of your mouth makes sense.
Most of the influx of illegals are in your liberal states like California. That's how liberal businesses are able to pay a higher tax in California. They hire undocumented aliens to work here illegal with cheaper wages and no benefits
jlane4512 2 years ago
Where do the Mexicans work?
Who pays the Mexicans?
Big city socialist liberals? Nah.
Conservative. Republican. Hypocrites.
odinata 2 years ago
Where do illegals pay to work? From business
who pay illegals their welfare programs? Tax payers and democrats take from those who work to their voter base that depend on handouts.
who started these welfare programs? Democrats
why! Because democrats want their voter base to be dependent on them for handouts to win their vote.
If fucking democrats did their job in keeping illegals out of the US, then private sector jobs will be available for Americans
jlane4512 2 years ago
Guess what bitch. California is bankrupt asking 8 billion from the federal government.
California, after decades managed from the left in the state legislature and governship, the left has finally made California broke with all the welfare programs that the state budget couldn't support.
Liberalism fails
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
And how does that show that conservatives aren't the ones hiring illiegals?
Last I checked, California had a republican governor. Land of Reagan.
Conservatives hire illegals. People who vote Republican hire cheap labor, regardless of immigration status.
Guess what, brother? Conservatives created the illegal immigration problem by GIVING THEM MONEY!
Illegals don't vote.
Thank you for the kind Christian words on this Christmas Eve. You can't even get your religion right.
odinata 2 years ago
You fucking retard. California, after Reagan has always went to the left. California state congress is controlled by the democrats. Fucking pelosi was a state senator before she became speaker of the house at the federal level.
California electoral delegates are represented by their district. California has remained blue
California, after decades managed by the far left has went belly up. Half of Californias population are illegal aliens receiving food stamps and medicaid started by democrats.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Ah, good. Our"Christian" friend has resorted to name calling. Nice.
Does the Republican minority wish to do something about immigration?
I suggest they stop HIRING cheap Mexican labor.
odinata 2 years ago
Well let's see dumbass.
Who really cares about child labor laws. Some of the democrats biggest donors are from businesses that use child sweatshops in foreign countries. Hypocritical don't you think.
Plus, if you buy a 5 dollar shirt then you're a hypocrit yourself. Americans want cheap priced items so business have to find cheap labor inorder for Americans to purchase shit at a cheap price.
You douche
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I see now why have to resort to the name calling--you just ain't bright enough to stay on task.
Who hires illegals?
Conservatives.
Sorry bubba. Tell you uncle aka "dad" to stop hiring them damn Messicans.
odinata 2 years ago
Who hire illegals?
Democrats passed legislation to make hiring illegal aliens legal.
Next, democrats want to pass legislation to grant amnesty to illegals to become us citizens.
Democrats love people dependent on them for handouts and democrats want illegals to become their constituents :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Democrats this, democrats that--whose money lured the illegals here? Democrats?
Mexicans mail home Republican money.
odinata 2 years ago
Whose fucking Welfare programs created states to go broke? Democrats
who takes taxpayers money and give it to illegal aliens thorugh entitlement welfare programs? Democrats
who in the state legislature allowed undocumented workers to work in California legally? democrats
get a fucking clue nitwit
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Perhaps this is another reason why California has so many illegals: Agriculture
To save money, small business owners--and large--hire cheap foreign labor.
How do those guys vote again? I forgot. Oh yeah.
REPUBLICAN.
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
You won't catch me voting for a Democrat anytime in the near future. That doesn't mean I don't know Republican turds don't stink.
Republicans created the immigration problem by GIVING THEM MONEY!
Now please, drop more f-bombs on me, as you seem incapable of refuting my assertion.
odinata 2 years ago
Who gives them the fucking money through welfare programs? Democrats bitch.
Who pays for these welfare programs? Taxpayers
who fucking promises to add more people to the welfare payroll? Democrats
Who promises to increase spending on welfare and threatening people that if you vote for a republican they will cut these entitlement programs? Democrats
you have got to be the biggest fucking idiot. Because of people like you, we have a fucking community organizer in the white house
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
illegals get a welfare check? legal american citizens don't? stop the presses!
No matter how much you swear at me, you don't seem to be getting any smarter.
odinata 2 years ago
O trust me, I am way smarter than you bitch ;)
democrats don't care of your legal are not. They just want your vote. You're the fucking dumb ass to vote for a government check inexchange for your freedom.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Oh, I can see that you are "way smarter" than me.
Everything you have posted so far is proof of that.
You almost addressed one of my points.
By all means, keep paying Mexicans. I'm sure that will end the immigration crisis.
odinata 2 years ago
During reconstruction, southern republicans were elected for the first time to state legislatures & were the first to charter public schools in the south for both blacks & whites that southern & northern democraps opposed. Southern democrats despised the idea of a educated Negro & a Negro that owned his own property thanks to lincolns bureau refugee of freedmen & abandon lands.
The impoverished communities today are managed by democrats.
It must suck to be a dumb inbred liberal like yourself
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Nice try. Not a "liberal". Just another guy who isn't dumb enough to fall for the Republican propaganda.
Don't like illegals?STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.
odinata 2 years ago
You're a liberal. Every fucking thing you've said has been said or perpetuated by the left.
Right wing propaganda? Lol. You're just some brainwashed lib with no comprehension on how our government works.
Isn't it funnie how rich and poor districts are represented by democrats and the middle class districts are represented by republicans ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Everything that comes out of your mouth is twisted by your brainwashed backward Baptist mentality.
Its really just this simple, simpleton:
Don't like illegals?
STOP PAYING THEM TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK!
odinata 2 years ago
You imbecile,
I have you know that the social equalities people enjoy today are done by denominations of the Christian faith.
Try reading about Harriet Beecher stowe, Julia Louisa lovejoy, William Lloyd garrison, Benjamin Lundy, John brown, nat turner, Frederick Douglas, Grimke sisters, all Christians that stood up to despot democrats in the north and south
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
So now the guy who is calling me a "f***ing retard,douche, dumbass" etc. is going lto lecture me about social equality?!?
Is it because you are a truly ugly person? (Nice ears--love the picture) Why so bitter?
Heres the sad truth: Conservatives created the illgal immigration problem by HIRING CHEAP LABOR!
odinata 2 years ago
Here's the sad truth...
You're just a nitwitted moron. Who sets the minimum wage? The federal government
why is it in states like new Mexico and california have the most illegal alien immigration problem? Because the democratic controlled states passed legislation to legally hire undocumented workers and for illegals to recieve Medicaid.
Get a clue dumbass
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I am just a "nitwitted" moron. I think you just invented an adjective.
Here's another possible reason those states have a bunch of illegals: they are on the border.
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
odinata 2 years ago
Your bitching about how the fucking jobs are going to illegals and I'm fucking telling you that in states like California and new Mexico, the democratic state congress passed laws making it legal for undocumented workers to work.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
New Mexico has a Democratic state congress?
odinata 2 years ago
Yes you fucking reject. New Mexico state gov bill Richardson is a democrat. New Mexico state congress is controlled by the democrats.
Get a clue dumb fuck
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I'm not "bitching" about anything--I'm stating a fact:
Republicans create the illegal immigration problem by PAYING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
odinata 2 years ago
And the fact is that the Hispanic population vote democrat.
Democrats want as many people on their welfare payroll so they can get re-elected.
Democrats invent these welfare programs to create dumbass voters like yourself dependent on them.
Shit, California went broke because they couldn't sustain the welfare payouts to both illegal and legal citizens.
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Hispanic means illegal?
odinata 2 years ago
Does Mexican mean illegal as you insinuated in your earlier comments?
Besides jackass, South America was conquered by Spain
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Hard to keep up with your non-sequitors.
Thanks again for all of your kind Christian words.
Who puts money in illegal alien pockets?
That's right. Republicans.
odinata 2 years ago
No, democrats just smile and take your fucking money.
Who puts money in illegal alien pockets? Democrats :) it's called Medicaid, foodstamp, and the bank of America credit card (democrats serve as board members/shareholders also serve on the securities and exchange commission in the house and senate)
that's right! Democrats!
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Ilegal aliens don't draw very much from the institutions you just cited. Look it up.
Democrats suck. I'll give you that.
Who pays illegal aliens? By and large?
REPUBLICANS
odinata 2 years ago
Who pay illegals by taking tax dollars and giving it to those who are here illegally? Democrats :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
You missed it man! Why did they come here in the first place? Tax breaks? Health plans? Sympathetic liberal policy?
Hell no! They came here because someone PAYED THEM IN CASH!
Blame away. Stick it to them damn librals. Doesn't change the truth.
Take away the incentive, you got no more illegals.
odinata 2 years ago
Sympathetic liberal policy my ass! If Obama gave 2 fucks about you, why is it his brother George Obama still lives in a mud hut in timbuktu?
Yea, eat shit liberal
sympathetic policy my ass. I guess it was sympathetic of democrats to abolish the school voucher program in the district of Columbia. They don't want those poor kids going to their prestige private school
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
I can see you don't really care about the issues, you just want to sling mud, slander, and throw your punches. Don't blame you. You don't seem too smart, and DAMN! You are one UGLY dude! You should change your avatar. Seriously. You look like your mom sniffed paint and your dad drank terpentine--and then beat you.
odinata 2 years ago
O how mellow dramatic.
Talk about ad hominems, you're just a fucking bitch that can't even back your claims.
Really all your rhetoric is the repertoire of those angry white liberals from msnbc.
Just curious are you a female? If so, I have a social democraticization question to ask you :)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
"Mellow Dramatic" isn't a term.
You've been dropping f-bombs on me all night.
Not a liberal. Don't have a TV. Never seen "MSNBC"
Don't get all queer on me, fakeJesus boy.
You are really, really, REALLY ugly.
And a bad Christian.
odinata 2 years ago
O trust me, I am a good Christian.
Unlike you I don't support a healthcare bill that subsidizes abortions and euthanize seniors by cutting Medicare and adding over a 300 billion dollars crippling those seniors on fixed income.
Ugly? Are you talking from personal experience? Besides, aren't you gay for judging other guy on his looks? Lol
trust me, my girlfriend knows I'm hot ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Democrats suck--I agree.
But do you really think that Republicans aren't taking your money?
odinata 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Medicaid, foodstamps, yadayada?!?!
Illegals come here for jobs. And who is paying them--under the table--(evil godamm taxes america sucks im not gonna pay no goddam taxes)
Thats right-- REPUBLICANS
odinata 2 years ago
No, big businesses paid democrats in the system state legislature like California and new Mexico to enact state laws that is conducive for good business by hiring undocumented workers.
Democraps asshole
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Big business paid Democrats? And they didn't pay Republicans? Are you serious? Are you really that biased? Come on! California is the third largest economic powerhouse in the world(or fourth, or something)--its huge. You don't think Democrats AND Republicans are itching to get their hands on that? Yoohoo--Ronald Reagan, Grey, Hollywood--etc.
Hiring illegals is ILLEGAL. Who still does it?
Fiscal Conservatives.
odinata 2 years ago
O no. Democrats are all about big business. Frannie Mae, Goldman sachs, lehman brothers, AT&T, Chrysler, liberty mutual, JP Morgan, medical industry distributor, apple, citibank, etc are all huge donors to democratic party in soft money.
Fucking Bernard madoff financed Obama
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Yeah man, yer on to something. Republicans arent about big business at all. Yer supersmart.
odinata 2 years ago
O shit. Did you know that Obama has money lined up in strategic petroleum along with the clintons? Those fucking oil driven asshole
kinda like how Obama made sure his democratic congress funded 2 billion dollars to George soros (obamas colleague) to have his oil
company to drill in south America. How come the environmentalist wackos arent over that shit
jlane4512 2 years ago
Gosh. I mean, if republicans were never around that would mean...
Slavery of blacks would still exist
Women wouldn't be able to vote
Disabled people would be sterilized along with other minorities.
Education would never be facilitated as equal to everyone.
Segregated public institutions would exist.
Lynching wouldn't be a federal crime.
If you weren't a party democrat you would be denied due process and a jury of your peers.
Native Americans would be stripped away from of their citizenship.
jlane4512 2 years ago
Don't like Illegal aliens? Stop giving them money.
Who's giving them money?
Conservatives. Republicans.
odinata 2 years ago
What the fuck? Who do you think the recipients are for this healthcare? Why is the next immigration legislation from the democrats is to create amnesty to illegals here?
Illegal aliens get Medicaid and food stamps. Why do you think democrats are not in favor of enacting harsh border security and immigration control.
Whose creating lax immigration law and immigrants coming here illegally for work. Democrats dumb ass, not republicans
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Why are illegal immigrants here?
Who pays them?
Laws and taxes don't apply to illegals--DEFINITION law boy.
Who pays illegals?
Conservatives.
Nice F-bomb,"christian"
odinata 2 years ago
Hey doofus,
illegal aliens can get food stamp and Medicare ;)
Why are democrats next agenda is to give amnesty to illegals living here?
I know illegals don't pay taxes, that's why they're laughing at your fucking ass because they get all the welfare help and not having to pay for it.
Why do you think democrats want illegals to come here? Why do illegals come here and have their kids born on US soil. It's all about entitlement programs an democrats use them for their autocratic power.
jlane4512 2 years ago
Yes. Our laws are applicable to illegals. How do you think illegal aliens are extraditable to the US Court System. Read the 6th amendment.
Who pays illegals?Democrats. For them to create potential progenitors for the democratic party.
Why do you think California is broke. Decades
of liberal rule ;)
liberalism is a failure
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Which democrats pay illegals?
Don't like liberals? Don't blame ya.
Don't vote democrat? More power to ya.
Who puts the cash in illegals pockets?
Follow the money. Its not liberal democrats.
Conservative republicans pay Mexicans. They love the cheap labor.
Got proof otherwise?
Put up or shut up.
odinata 2 years ago
WTF?
Who takes money from those who are productive and give it to the unproductive members in society? Democrats
cheap labor? Democrats don't care about child labor, their biggest donors to the democratic party come from businesses that use child labor sweatshops.
Democrats love illegals. That's why they don't enforce any immigration law. That's why democrats want to create amnesty to those living here illegally to become US citizens and their meal ticket for the democratic party ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
Ad hominems huh.
Funny ;)
jlane4512 2 years ago
"you stupid bitch"
This is what we can expect when conservatives are called on the problems THEY have created.
odinata 2 years ago
Cut the tax rate, repeal the 16th amendment, and somehow that magically erases the immigration problem CONSERVATIVES created by hiring CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR.
Yah. You're brilliant.
odinata 2 years ago
Democrats hire cheap undocumented workers to. Tom daschle had 20 illegals working as his butlers ;)
besides, businesses decide what they want to pay or they decide to outsource jobs outside of the US.
Not bush
try taking an economics class, it will help you
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Tom Tancredo hired illegals to redo his basement.
Whats your point, besides the ad hominems?
Who is more motivated to hire cheap labor?
odinata 2 years ago
O k, so he hired them to redo his basement? Big fucking deal
Tom daschle had 20 undocumented workers as servants. Lol
Besides, democrats are all about illegals coming in. Why do you think democrats enact soft legislation on immigration.
Take a class in economics ;) you need it
jlane4512 2 years ago
@jlane4512
Sweet, "Christian".
The illegal problem ends when Republicans stop paying them.
odinata 2 years ago