Yes but, there are only 8 notes in an octave, 12 if you go chromatic; and there are only certain rhythms that appeal to the human ear, Jokingly, I've always thought that any composer has pretty much had it post Mozart and Beethoven as they'd already used them all up ... hence we got stuff like putting nails between the strings of pianos etc .. there's a few Louis Armstrong trumpet/cornet solos you'd recognize as guitar solos, and some you'd like to play. Isn't music a wonderful thing?!
Iluvatar is Marillion's rip off? It's so natural, even they're names are both based on Tolkien's Mythology. Both based on Tolkiens "Silmarillion" book.
Most of this examples doesn't fit into the plagiarism area, definitely, and some are vague to say the least. Similar rythm patterns, or references inspired by other's people's work or mere coincidences.
The ones that are real plagiarisms is the Camel and Opeth, Marillion and Lluvatar.
Porcupine Tree's spin to harder rock is by miles influenced by Tool, and not only in Lazarus, also in Open Car, but I love both bands,they send different messages and have different sensibilities.
So Called Friend and Flood have a very similar riff in one part, but nothing else in both songs resemble each other. Only so many notes and combinations in the world to use...But PT is God.
Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
@rizz7604Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
@rizz7604Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
my favourite rip off ever is dream theater peruvian skies chorus follows the exact note for note chord progression of rush afterimage, seriously same key and everything i put the 2 songs on top of eachother and they sync up exactly, and also learning to live dream theater, heart of the sunrise yes, that is another amazing copy
Can Utility and the Coastliners I believe was made to be a nod towards Yes. Early on Genesis where quite fans of Yes, Phil even considered applying for them as a drummer.
I've got something new for you: "Race With the Devil" by Al Di Meola and "Acid Rain" by Liquid Tension Experiment. It's not a total ripoff, but "Acid Rain" has a riff that is veeeery similar to another riff in "Race With the Devil." And it makes complete sense because Al Di Meola is one of Petrucci's biggest influences. Listen yourself and see if you can find it. ;)
Yeah true, when one is in Drop D Tuning... such as allot of people say DT's Home is like 46&2 I even thought so...but I Dismiss that one cause it isn't too Blatant.
Oh and I've noted to myself the similarities between "Flood" and "So Called Friend," but the PT song just has a better rhythmic flow (HUGE Tool fan as well); also, as a musician, those notes seem to be commonly placed together. It's just natural for the fingers to play em like that.
Well I'm a Keyboardist with some knowledge of guitar, so I know some of these are fairly Basic, but I do believe PT Cited Tool as an Influence...I Think.
Exactly what I thought when I listened to it today.
The whole Sky Moves Sideways is very similar to the whole Wish you Were Here album. It's awesome, there's no doubt that Steven Wilson derived a lot of influence from Floyd for that album.
Years ago cause I had the SymX and DT around hte same time I noticed they sounded the same...then some time later the Queen one but forgot about it, Thanks.
Man I love how these bands just rip off each other XD
SonOfYoungwood 2 months ago
Yes but, there are only 8 notes in an octave, 12 if you go chromatic; and there are only certain rhythms that appeal to the human ear, Jokingly, I've always thought that any composer has pretty much had it post Mozart and Beethoven as they'd already used them all up ... hence we got stuff like putting nails between the strings of pianos etc .. there's a few Louis Armstrong trumpet/cornet solos you'd recognize as guitar solos, and some you'd like to play. Isn't music a wonderful thing?!
NialCaratacus 3 months ago
Man . . . Opeth Loves Camel and Seiges Even Loves Rush :D
mvunit3 7 months ago
@21stCenturyRushMan I should check that out and Revive this series at least for a new special.
Spydrfish 8 months ago
Iluvatar is Marillion's rip off? It's so natural, even they're names are both based on Tolkien's Mythology. Both based on Tolkiens "Silmarillion" book.
halfdan60 9 months ago
Just stumbled upon this. Very cool little project! Thanks for putting it together.
HousleyMike 10 months ago
I love Dream Theater and I really like seing them in these videos.
mitchwheelz 10 months ago
Most of this examples doesn't fit into the plagiarism area, definitely, and some are vague to say the least. Similar rythm patterns, or references inspired by other's people's work or mere coincidences.
The ones that are real plagiarisms is the Camel and Opeth, Marillion and Lluvatar.
Porcupine Tree's spin to harder rock is by miles influenced by Tool, and not only in Lazarus, also in Open Car, but I love both bands,they send different messages and have different sensibilities.
rael2099 1 year ago
So Called Friend and Flood have a very similar riff in one part, but nothing else in both songs resemble each other. Only so many notes and combinations in the world to use...But PT is God.
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Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
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Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
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Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
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rizz7604 1 year ago
Can-Utility pwns Astral Traveller. Both are great bands though. ..
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@rizz7604Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
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@rizz7604Ooooohhhh no Porcupine Tree...I remember thinking that the first time I heard it...it should be noted, though, that So-Called Friend develops into quite a different song from Flood after the introduction of that riff. It's also similar to Part of Me by Tool, which was the first song I thought of upon hearing SCF for the first time.
rizz7604 1 year ago
Try Rush - Natural Science. Dream theater - In the presence of Enemies Part 1
Naabenstadt 1 year ago
Genesis - "Fireside Song" - Kansas "Carry On Wayward Son"
Genesis - "Timetable" - Marillion - "Slainte Maith"
hiltonhoughton 1 year ago
Genesis "Firth of Fifth " - "Kansas Song For America" (lots)
Genesis "I Know What I Like" - Marillion "Charting The Single" (Bassline and 'Choo Choo To You')
Genesis "White Mountain" (the 'Fang Son Of Great Fang' bit) - Marillion "Grendel" ('The 'Silken Membranes' bit)
Camel's "Mystic Queen" sounds like a Pink Floyd pastiche
King Crimson "21st Century Schizoid Man" - Yes "Heart Of The Sunrise"
King Crimson "21st Century Schizoid Man" - Van Der Graaf Generator "Darkness 11/11"
hiltonhoughton 1 year ago
now it makes sense why I don't like the late PT. - 'cause i don't like Tool.
Neueregel 1 year ago
Wow it's been a year? amazing... well I'll make another cause I have enough of them....
Spydrfish 1 year ago
my favourite rip off ever is dream theater peruvian skies chorus follows the exact note for note chord progression of rush afterimage, seriously same key and everything i put the 2 songs on top of eachother and they sync up exactly, and also learning to live dream theater, heart of the sunrise yes, that is another amazing copy
pinkfloydrule27 2 years ago
@pinkfloydrule27 Yeah, the chill sections with the bass and the synth pads in LtL and HotS.
That same part in Jacob's Ladder, by the way, can be compared to a part near the end of Through the Looking Glass by Symphony X (amazing song, btw).
And that Marillion song kinda sounds like Through Her Eyes by Dream Theater.
n30l1nk 2 years ago
The intro riff of "Nothing at all", by Gentle Giant sounds a lot like king Crimson "Moonchild" one.
axzck 2 years ago
The riff of The MArs Volta "Golliath" Jam part sounds a lot like a riff from "21st Century Schizoid MAn", by King Crismon.
axzck 2 years ago
porcupine tree ----> pink floyd
chinastax10 2 years ago
Can Utility and the Coastliners I believe was made to be a nod towards Yes. Early on Genesis where quite fans of Yes, Phil even considered applying for them as a drummer.
FredMalm 2 years ago
how about the tom petty - red hot chili peppers issue? XD
AsurorusA 2 years ago
I've got something new for you: "Race With the Devil" by Al Di Meola and "Acid Rain" by Liquid Tension Experiment. It's not a total ripoff, but "Acid Rain" has a riff that is veeeery similar to another riff in "Race With the Devil." And it makes complete sense because Al Di Meola is one of Petrucci's biggest influences. Listen yourself and see if you can find it. ;)
n30l1nk 2 years ago
Uhm I don't know about Tool being a PT influence but it's definitely possible. They're just common notes i guess.
edthehead83 2 years ago
Yeah true, when one is in Drop D Tuning... such as allot of people say DT's Home is like 46&2 I even thought so...but I Dismiss that one cause it isn't too Blatant.
Spydrfish 2 years ago
Oh and I've noted to myself the similarities between "Flood" and "So Called Friend," but the PT song just has a better rhythmic flow (HUGE Tool fan as well); also, as a musician, those notes seem to be commonly placed together. It's just natural for the fingers to play em like that.
edthehead83 2 years ago
Well I'm a Keyboardist with some knowledge of guitar, so I know some of these are fairly Basic, but I do believe PT Cited Tool as an Influence...I Think.
Spydrfish 2 years ago
@Spydrfish There's a clip where Wilson says Tool was an influence - you are right.
But let's face it - a lot of bands are so high they steal from themselves....
discoverytime1 4 months ago
Yeah it's pretty well known that Mikael Ackerfeldt <3 Camel.
edthehead83 2 years ago
Isn't Dream Theater's "6:00" a clear Rush influence?
And Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways (Phase II)" makes me think of something by Tangerine Dream or Vangelis.
Isn't Sieges Even's "Seasons of Seclusion" more of a King Crimson ripp off?
AchirdProg 2 years ago
Well, Think of a near sound alike and I'd do something, otherwise Just influence wouldn't make the video.
Spydrfish 2 years ago
Pocupine Tree/The Sky Moves Sideways
sounds like :
Pink Foyd/Welcome to the Machine
somewhat
Great Video!
METALSTYGIAN 2 years ago
Exactly what I thought when I listened to it today.
The whole Sky Moves Sideways is very similar to the whole Wish you Were Here album. It's awesome, there's no doubt that Steven Wilson derived a lot of influence from Floyd for that album.
Daregmakil 2 years ago
I have a suggestion, too. Three songs with very similar begining:
Queen - Father to Son (Queen II)
Dream Theater - Surrounded (Images and Words)
Symphony X - Twilight in Olympus (through the looking glass)
I think this has not been mentioned yet :)
mamlasu 2 years ago
Years ago cause I had the SymX and DT around hte same time I noticed they sounded the same...then some time later the Queen one but forgot about it, Thanks.
Spydrfish 2 years ago
Another good video.
teababe27 3 years ago
Got a suggestion, check out The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" and Coheed & Cambria's "The Hound". The intros sound very similar.
livingdeadman17 3 years ago
Yeah, You're Right...
Thanks.
Spydrfish 3 years ago
Hahaha, this is great Spydrfish!
I love Sieges even's RUSH sound though!
Good work!!!
davidsanful 3 years ago
Another nice video spydrfish, good spot with the last one and the marillion one i liked aswell ^^
nejifanx 3 years ago