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  • Ahem - no, almost 6 sec slower than the R8, by this driver on this track, and almost 3 sec slower than Cayman. Faster than a GT-R? No how, no way, ever, on any surface. Maybe the poster meant the Nimso 370.

  • By the engine rpm sound, I think the driver keeps the rpm's too low (most of the time)! Thanks

  • The Mustang Boss 302 blows this away 1:40.21

  • @10243612B

    its faster around the track than a nissan GT-R and only 0:00:01 slower than an audi r8 5.2

  • It is a canadian car idiots! It is built exclusively in Canada in the most advanced plants GM has. Nothing like built in the US! LOL!

  • I am not a MT fan but this is an excellent series. A track test is always the best way to show an overall performance potential of a car. I also like Randy Post , it was cool to see is hand positions through turns and listen to his comments at the end.

  • That first driver reminds me of the driver in the "bad guy's car" in Bullett...

  • sounds like a lawn tractor

  • Well, the Cayman is not that much slower in acceleration than the Camaro SS these days. The Cayman traps in the 1/4 mile around 109mph to the Camaro's 110-112 mph.

    I feel that the Camaro did pretty well actually @ a 1:45.7xx on Laguna Seca with its really narrow front tires (245's on a 3800lb car?!) and you can get one for around $31k NEW.

    A few choice handling mods will transform the Camaro into a much more balanced car overall.

  • 2012 BOSS Mustang will dominate this.

  • @hypervariable sir if u dont mind do u know theres gonna be a camaro z28 coming with about 550 horsepower? if this camaro can go against a 550 hp mustang now with only 420 hp what will a 550 hp camaro do?

  • @hypervariable there are so many things wrong with your comment.. i like the boss... but.. its got less HP that this... and go watch the bosses laguna video... its even worse to watch....

  • I personally like the Camaro's look better then the mustang = ) and the camaro 1969 is BOSS! lol but both mustang and camaros are awesome cars = )

  • @LastTransAm2002 What should make an impression on you is the fact that the Camaro, a car with 105 more hp and 150 more torque than the Cayman, was slower by nearly 3 seconds (which is a significant time difference in racing). The Camaro should not only be faster than the Cayman on the straights, but it should have decimated it. Unfortunately, the Camaro was so slow (while the Cayman was so fast) through the turns, that it lost to a car which on paper is significantly slower.

  • Wait he just bashed its handling then in the same sentence praised it as more refined...... WTF?

  • It was 2.7 seconds slower than a Cayman S (a car with 105 fewer hp). Muscle cars suck!

  • did they stich a baseball into the shift knob? wow, hideous.

    look at those A pillars and visability... wrecking yards are going to see a lot of these when guys pretend to be "hot shots" with em.

  • 0:36 wtf there is bmw brand on the steering wheel ?

  • great noise, but not much else to show...

  • Jeremy Clarkson, really? You're quoting Jeremy Clarkson on an American car? He is by far one of the biggest car hypocrites alive. All the crap he talks about american cars and owns four. Ridiculous...

  • All Fords, 1 of which never hit the American market, and none of them muscle cars. What point are you trying to make?

  • Jeremy Clarkson was referring to the old muscle cars not new ones like this (in the interview with Eric Bana they were talking about is 1972 Ford race car that he crashed) Clarkson has admitted he loves the ZR1 and Ford GT (despite his always breaking down). That quote was used out of context, never mind the 14 year olds, but dont knock Clarkson he does know what he's going on about. And no I'm not English haha.

  • @kevman88 Camaro's and Mustangs are pony cars. They came out for road racing. Cars like Chevelles, Nova's and Chargers are Muscle cars.

  • "[Muscle cars] look fantastic, but they're all crap. They just are." -Jeremy Clarkson to Eric Bana

  • The review being what it is, I still want an SS with a 6 speed before the government drives the company in to the ground and nothing is left of GM.  Unless by some miracle the fed gets its hooks out of the automaker and lets it either sink or swim. Maybe if the government stopped being a nanny, and American companies stopped being such reckless sniveling whiney bitches America itself would be better off.

  • Why does everyone put the GT500 up against a stock Camaro SS? Thats not apples to apples. Put the GT500 up against the Hennesey 550. Thats apples to apples and I bet the Camaro would surprise everyone.

  • that wouldent be a surprice the camero is a beast in this configuration and the hennessy is a monster

  • Not really, apples to apples would be a Supersnake vs the Hennesey Camaro. How is apples to apples a stock car vs a non stock fixed by Hennesey car. I understand the price in the supersnake is a lot more than a Hennesey fixed Camaro, but we're talking about performance here, not price.

  • @Abe4racing exactly what he is trying to say is that they should both be super charged

  • I think he would have liked it more had they driven the 6. Obviously it would have been slower, but the V8 is horribly unbalanced. The Zeta platform was intended for 4 door V8s like the G8, VXR8 etc. A 2 door Zeta based car is simply too nose heavy with a big engine like that. Youd really have to do a transverse mounted, smaller displacement, turbo V6 like Audi used to do to get this thing decently balanced.

  • ok so faster in a straight line camaro better handling mustang.man thats a tough choice but ill pick the camaro and tune it myself and screw ford they are always the slowest of the sports cars a little srt4 neon would beat a mustang

  • They have already done that comparo, this isn't just about any one car. they were trying to find the best drivers car!

  • lol...that kind of true

  • is that the camra mounts squeeking or is that car poorly put together?

  • How is that car "all new"? It was 4 years old the first year it was for sale thanks to Transformers

  • That's called a concept car.

  • @RayCottrell no its called a gm imported austrailian turd

  • @RayCottrell no it not

  • don't look like hes haveing that much fun but hey that what u get when u buy a lame a camaro lol hahaha

  • This guy sucks. I can definitely do better.

    Put a driver like the stig instead.

  • Money-Brains= Camaro, I will take a Miata or my dream car a Lotus Exige agains 5 Camaros like this one any day of the week want to see what happens when you put a titanic size Camaro or Mustang against a Miata size Lotus Exige? I'll Take light and smart against Heavy and Dumb any time. Go grab the dipstick in your Camaro and put it in your stink hole? Who needs a V8 when you can do it with 4?

  • You will take a Miata over a Camaro SS !? I respect your choice, but I don't understand it.

  • Ceejay loser if the Camaro is so good why did they kill it? My miata will outlast your 3 ton Camaro with out even trying. When a Miata breaks down one time your Camaro will take 10 trips to the dealer. LOL If I want to beat your Titanic size Camaro with just a turbo on my Miata or just a V8 transplant you will be history either way. So go suck on your mama's tities you cry baby.

  • Your miata is the size of yr mamas tities....lol chevy is always number 1 ! ( NASCAR ) ( Hands Down !! ) don't compare a junk half size shit box mazda to a chevy camaro...!!! keep driving your $2,000.00 car and dream about a 2010 Chevy Camaro....You just said if you tune your car with a SWAP you can beat a stock 2010 6.2 camaro...are you a retard or what? if you just put a Super chargred Hennessey Camaro on the line then you can go home and enjoy your mamas miata tites some more !!!

  • hahahah hell yeah

  • One of these passed me on the highway today so I rolled down my window and gave him the thumbs up badass car

  • the camaro is nice.. too bad im too tall to fit in it-- i guess i have to go with the mustang- which is actually smaller! but for some reason my head doesnt ram the ceiling..

  • get one with sun roof stick ur head out i would instead of geting a car that everyone has

  • lol.... nahhh

  • Only thing I have agaist the Camaro is if you are taller then 6'2" you can't fit in the cars.. Its a little mans car.. But it look cool and is a good car..

  • They have to work out all the bug before I will buy one!

  • Why is everyone comparing a stock car to specialty tuned car? Obviously there is going to be drastic difference.

  • ok but the shelby500gt is almost 25k more than the camaro please u pay for waht u get they should not even put those 2 in the same category

  • the camaro is designed to understeer to be safe for beginner drivers who dont know how to handle a car on the edge, a simple racing alignment could dispose of that understeer

  • Randy pobst is a very good pro driver.... he races a porche in gt1 scca

  • Camaro will sell well the first year, but Ford is gettign strong sales because they didn't get bailed out, they've got good designs, and mustangs are better handling, more fun than the camaro. Both are typical American non-track type cars, more stoplight cars, but at least the mustang tries.

  • i am a huge ford fan but that camaro can be alot faster if the guy knew how to shift quickly. they should have brought in a pro driver like the stig lol

  • Umm Randy IS a pro driver. SCCA world Challenge, Grand Am, IMSA the guy has done it all and done it well. Id put him in a race with Ben Collins any day of the week, trust me they would be very close in ability.

  • well he sure as hell doesnt drive like it. listen to all the short shifts

  • Hmm sounds like too much weight Toward the front if its Understeerig like that..Hopefully chevy will revise it wth a lighter front end later on down road for better turn in

  • this car is junk!!the mustang rules.

  • chevy needs to fix the roof...

  • why did he say anything about the rear biting? thats a good thing. lol just make it turn better

  • Yes i agree a dash view would rock for sure! Hehe kinda like in Shift.

  • They should throw the dash up there on the videos in the corner or something, It would be nice to see the tach and speedometers, no?

  • Hey guys lets compare a 60k$ supercharged car against a stock 35k$ car and see what the difference is.

    Next im sure hes gonna ask the driver what he thinks of a Bugatti Veyron vs a Smart car.

  • People dont fuckin realize. The GT500 IS NOT THE CAMAROS RIVAL! The mustang GT is, fords just crying cuz the GT's dinky engine cant even beat the new camaro v-6. Put a shelby up against a  ZR1...PLEASE

  • um can't even beat? are you sure about that? because the last time i checked, the GT actually matches the Camaro RS.

    and by the way, you just said the GT500 wasn't the Camaro's main rival, yet you bring up the ZR-1. that's not the GT500's rival.

  • lol the 2011 mustang gt is making 400 hp out of the new coyote 5.0. and yes the ss camaro is marketed against the gt 500

  • americain cant build cars they never could !

    europen cars are de best !

  • they can't build cars? hmmm, sure looks like they can build them. i mean you do see one on your monitor right? i mean if we couldn't build them, then the car wouldn't be rolling around because we never got to building the car.

    you're European fanboy who has NEVER EVER driven an American car.

  • 2011 Mustang Gt will have 400 hp. God knows what the cobra will have.

  • a V10 from that Ford Truck if thats possible lol

  • 2011 Camaro Z28 will have 556hp from the 6.2L Supercharged LSA V8 that is found in the new CTS-V. your point?

  • You're wrong. GM scrapped the Z28 for some reason. It really is a shame. We need all of our domestics to impress.

    Guess the Hennessey is the best ya got, but its like a $30,000 mod for low 4's to 60.

  • uh no, they didn't. go look it up. just last week they confirmed it to be out late next year. they as in meaning GM. the actual GM president even confirmed it.

    go look it up.

    autoblog(dot)com

    the whole story is on that website if you search it right.

  • I know I'll hear crap for this... but it sounded like a higher revving truck engine... not that thats bad, just alil out of place. The mustang just sounded way sexier and obviously handled alot better, after all it is lighter. like he said though, lots of potential.

  • well, i see it like this, the GT500 (i'm getting one, sorry to brag) but the camaro was what, a second n half off, with 120BHP less, so, give the big chevy another 120BHP and it will beat the GT500 as it has a way too rudimentary suspension system

  • its also naturally aspirated add a super charger like the 500 and its the same in the hp department

  • WOW what an ugly exhaust note for a muscle car. Sounds like a civic with a crappy exhaust system. no wonder it finished dead last.

  • shitty sound from video camaros sound really nice if you ever heard one in real life

  • put one of ur pos miatas against it bitch. Speakers dont serve no justice dumb fuck

  • shitcar

  • You mean a more expensive car is better???

    Wow, who would of though.

  • hes talking about the gt500 thats not fair becuase i would hope its better then the camaro considering how much more it cost

  • The camaro came in 10th

  • well the camaro and the challenger are some of the muscle cars that they remained with that old classic look

    the mustang,it's completely a new car

  • take an R32 on that course or an FD3S. they'll smash on those muscle cars

  • Uhhh apples to oranges my friend. Put an R8 against your two rides and it would fuckin SMASH them.

    See what I did there?

  • Lol true true but there was a guy earlier saying tuners were for pussys xD

  • And that my freinds is why Ford is in a better position as a company over Chevrolet. This is the opinion of a real race car driver, not a You Tube wannabe. Dale Jr. was part on the R&D of this car, he said exacly the same, needs a better set up to run faster, Chevy did not listen. Camaros are ugly BTW

  • GM never does, they ask average Americans. witch amounts to asking some one that is half retarded, and does not know shit about how a car should drive. if anything ask guys who run Corvette's in the SCCA. when the US government built the Atomic bomb they did not ask high school physics teachers on how to build one, they asked Albert Einstein, because he was the best in his field mite I point out that he was a German as well. if your going to make a sports car I would ask the same people on it.

  • You are right!! Seroyer2, I can assure you Ford has learned a lot of how to set up a car from its European division as they are way ahead on that department, even Japan cant touch them thats why they use Porsche's and BMW's as benchmarks. Camaro has great potential being independent rear just needs a better company behind it

  • GM is a number company, and I don't think they well ever make really good cars, just ok cars. Ford has a very bright future and I think they well be able to compeat with the rest of the world just fine. now if only ford would drop that live axle.

  • if you dont own either of these cars you cant say if there good or bad, you can drive a 90 hp civic and be happy as hell. people are so weird with cars these days...

  • I don't drive a civic, I drive a STi, I love it great car.

  • i think Ford is already doing much better than the competition, top safety ratings on every car in its line up, and top quality i think better than toyota. but i do like the live axle, its lighter, less expensive and i just like the way it handles over the IRS. but on the other hand if i was racing like this i would probably want the IRS

  • man your old school, Independent cars ride so much better, and With 540HP I think I would like a Independent rear.

  • IRS in the Camaro sucks compared to the solid axle in the Mustang. not to say that the IRS in the Camaro can be better because with the right set up it could be alot better. if i was racing on a track, yeah i would want IRS, but for everyday use, 1/4mi and street racing.. live axle is lighter, cheaper, and in some cases (like this one) is just better

  • @LOWESDOLEO The Ford they are comparing it to cost nearly $20,000 more. It SHOULD be faster. This is also Chevy's FIRST attempt. Very first year of the car. It won't be perfect right away. It is still better on the road.

    Wait for the Z28.

    BTW, the Camaro looks much better than the Mustang.

    (BTW, I do like the Mustang)

  • @TheOfficialKC dude I like what you're saying, but, uh this isnt the first year. This is a redesigned monaro/gto/g8 gxp...

  • @accordv6er Redesigned, exactly. If it was the exact car they would have had it out 3 years before they did. And seeing how different the G8 and Camaro are says something.

  • camaros are for greaseballs,, real men drive mustangs,,,, that queermaro is just plain ugly too...

  • hahahaha queermaro!

  • @seroyer2

    TROLL

  • lol thats funny because i see alot of women driving stangs, imo mustangs are kinda feminine. mustangs are cool though, they arent bad, but im just sayin.

  • which camero is more expensive ?

  • Anybody into small fast cars? Check my ride, it's a Fiat 500 Abarth, may be sold in the USA in a year or two! Video response above ^

  • Camaro is an ugly POS

  • boy your car HAS to be good then

  • i think that guy works for a ford company.....

  • a Ricer is a japanese car thats tuned up to look fast ide rather have a muscle car any day

  • i'd take this camaro over the gt500 mustang

  • wow thats only 5sec more than the

    Audi R8

  • 5 seconds is a massive gap.

  • but the R8 is a $100000+ supercar

    Camaro is a $30000 muscle car so really thats not allot considering the vehicle class.

  • For a car that was so well displayed in the commercials and in movies, I am very surprised about hearing that it has a lot of understeer... its a nice lookin car though.

  • why you guys using difernt Steering wheel

  • no airbag to kill the driver.

  • not all mics are movie quality. this one definitely cant get the lows.

  • this guy needs to learn how to drift

  • he doesnt want to drift dickcheese. drifting makes you go slower. quit watching fast and furious movie ricer.

  • Man I hope you meant that insult with some humor because that was the funiest thing if heard in weeks. dickcheese? I can stop laughing.

  • whats a ricer?

  • purpose? lose time and consume tyres?

  • He's a pro race car driver and he could drift around your head for days.....

  • The engine does not sound like that at all. I know, I've driven an SS. There was just something wrong with the mic probably.

  • yea, the car sounds like a massive orgasm in a can.

  • The sound of an Evo or STi or even the Skyline would be nice!

  • I ain't driving nothing that sounds as dull and drab like taht!!! WTF... Is it a car or a lawn mower?

  • If JJiq76 has an IQ of 135, then the rest of us have an IQ of 215 !

  • man arent you a mature 33 year old

  • Check my video response above! Abarth 500 is going to the USA next year! You will love it, not the fastest car in the world, but possibly one of the most fun!

  • Nazcar38, yes, you are right. Those words don't deserve to be spelled correctly. By the way, isn't nazcar races when a bunch of idiot amerikans drive in circles in cars with no windows? I'm not sure, because we don't do that in my country. We also do not practice in-breeding.

  • no, it is where high performance racecars speed a round a track at speeds topping 200 mph

  • I laugh every time I hear the engine on this hunk of shit cumara. Listen to that junk!

  • what cant you get through your fucking head, it is CAMARO, there is no fucking -a at the end or a -u after the -c, go back to school and learn to spell, better yet, just read the damn title

  • jjIQ135, he purposely spells it "cumara" like that because he thinks it doesn't deserve to be spelled correctly (Other creative words of his include "corabeth" and "amerikan"), and to piss people off. Ignore him. He's probably one of the most narcissistic cowards I've seen. And don't try to make a bad comment in his channel because he'll just delete it and block you. I guarantee he's already blocked you already.

  • i guess you are right, i just hate dumbasses, he cant even figure out how to hit replyon one of my comments, and i dont care if he blocks me, i blocked him a long time ago

  • lol yeah it did sound like shit from the inside of the car...

  • JJiq78, Go hop on your short school bus and dream of being a grown up. You are only 15 with an iq of 78. You poor slow amerikan child. Does this cumara sound like the school bus you ride on every morning? Is that why you like it? Someday, if you study hard, you could drive a school bus too.

  • what?what? speak up, i dont speak DUMBASS

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  • it looks like you need to go back to school , seeing how you cant even type in plain english, dumbass

  • He said 6.2 litre, but only 426 HP?! Whats going on, why do 90% of American cars have huge engines but comparably small HP? Even my tiny Abarth 500 has more 30 BHP per litre more than this car! It just seems they're not making the most of the engine. If a 4.2 litre has well over 1000 BHP, then why only 426 in a 6.2?

  • Comparing your Abarth is silly.

    Most american cars are undertuned at the factory for the best economy/power.a 6.2 could probably pull alot more hp stock.

    1000hp out of a 4.2? not unless you have a fortune to spend on it. I am geussing you don't know much about cars......

  • Car i was quoting was a koenigsegg 4.2 V8 with 1018 BHP stock, running on bio fuel. 6.2 litre & economy don't come in the same sentence, if the UK built Caterham R500 can do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and STILL do 40 MPG, then what can this thing do? I never understood why the US didn't break the mold and start building fast AND economical cars, that are built like those is Europe and can at the very least take a bend with out over steering? Just watch a vid of the GTR, half the engine size, more BHP.

  • jjIQ74, don't you have homework or coloring books you need to work on? Go clean your room, you've got toys and stuffed animals all over the floor!

  • jjIQ76, So are you going to explain what the word "jumo" is? I am waiting here impatiently. I can hardly wait to read your reply. Your young age and low IQ really crack me up. You do realize you are in the company of many accomplished grown men, and not a bunch of your special education classmates in the the 8th grade.

  • i dont need to say anything to you other than what i said in the last comment, it was a typo, i meant to type jump, or did you not recognize that the -oand -p are right beside each other on the keyboard, besides, who gave a 5 year old mentally retarded douchebag like you a computer anyway

  • JJiq72, your father is unemployed because he did work for GM, and they are bankrupt. Now, please explain, "and learn to fucking spell the name of oursand". What is "oursand"? I also do not understand your amerikan ebonics, "go jumo off a cliff with spikes on the bottom". What is a "jumo"? Is a jumo your mother's vagina lips? I just don't understand your amerikan ways!

  • it was a typo jackass, and no, my father IS employed because GM WAS bankrupt way back in fucking JULY!, and you cant talk shit about my type when you obviously cant even tell the difference between a fucking C and a K, ameriCan, not ameriKan you dumbass, and i was saying, learn to spell the name of MY country and go jumP off a cliff with spikes on the bottom, it would do the whole world a favor

  • JJiq78, Im sure you need to recheck your facts. For a 15 year old, (according to your profile), you sure do have a filthy mouth. If you were here in front of me, I would put you over my knee and give you a good spanking, then wash your mouth out with soap. But since you are a disrespectful amerikan, I wil leave you alone to grow up and be like the rest of the animals there in the states. Enjoy drinking alchohol, doing drugs, and holding up liquor stores. Just stay in your country!

  • and learn to fucking spell the name of oursand i dont need to recheck my facts, you need to at least get some, my dad is a gm mechanic and knows all of this stuff when he gets things from GM, and you are just a fucking pervert, so do the whole world a favor and go jumo off a cliff with spikes on the bottom

  • i've actually driven this car before.. feels pretty sweet until you hit a tight corner

  • This car is really built like a hunk of crap. Why would a bankrupt company build such a heap of feces? One would think they would put a last ditch effort into building something that could compete with the Europeans and Japanese, but no. Amerikan car manufacturers made their companies bankrupt by building low quality unreliable cars, let them go under.

  • ok dumbass, why domt you shut the fuck up, first of all it is ameriCan, learn to spell, GM has been out of bankruptcy since early july, the camaro kicks multiple foreign cars' ass, GM is a VERY reliable car company, and FYI every single 2010 camaro that has been made, has been sold, AND there are 20,000 on backorder, so you can just shut the fuck up you stupid douche

  • TRANS AM THAT WOULD BE COOL.

  • bring back the trans am!!!!

  • youtube is now, making an advantage trough innovation....

  • I'm a GM guy but I have to agree the new mustangs are better. All this hype and wait and I hate to say i'm not impressed

  • looks reallyy heavy and clumsy for nothing

    looked like he didnt even have power steering the way his face was getting so red

  • why do all the tester have to be middle aged farts?

  • middle-aged farts? Randy Pobst? a middle-aged fart? hmm, i guess his multiple road racing championships and wins don't mean anything do they?

    you should probably read up on Randy Pobst. you wouldn't sound so ignorant if you had done it in the first place.

  • damn that car is hott!

  • Yeah, this car is really a terrible attempt at a sports car. It wouldnt even hang with a Miata at a drag race, and in the turns the Miata would totally destroy it. GM, just give it up. Fire all those losers you have working in your company so they can work for McDonalds.

  • why wont you shut the fuck up, camaro has been successful since it came out in the late '60s, and it KILLED the miata

  • Wouldn't hang with a miata on a drag race? Are you stupid or something?

  • this guy is retarded, the live axle in the mustang is what makes it bad and what every other reviewer complains about...he just doesn't know how to drive!!

  • yea, I bet Motor Trend just pulls some chump off the street that doesn't know what he is talking about... please...

  • No you are. He says that the Camaro's rear end is very refined compared to the Mustangs. But fuck the only American car that has stirred my pot lately is the ZR1. Exception of the CTS-V they are still very primitive and horribly understeery cars.

  • great sound. though it would sound better if it wasn't recorded.

  • what's the price tag?

  • depends on what yo want on it. but the one in the video probably starts at $44,000

  • LS and LT are around $23-$30,000 while the SS is around $40,000