Australian Story Part1 - Simon Illingworth - The Underbelly

[mm20105]

I truly believe that there is no place for good people on this planet.

[MrFarout88]

ya dont give up ya mates ....NO MATTER WHAT....thats the same in the crime world and the coppers world..... fuck as kids we are told DONT TELL...at the end of the day your a dog and now we all now you can not be trusted..i bet ya mates dont trust ya fully.

[teedzy1]

@MrFarout88 a real freind would not put someone in that position to begin with,if you think there is honor among theives,then you watch too much TV

[flashtin166]

Are there any shows where they follow aussie cops around?

[58Clams]

When I reported bean raped by a NSW police officer from the Customs Assistance Unit Known as the CAU in Sydney. I was threaten. I was suffering abuse, harassment ect from my own locale in Goulburn. Won day I checked my mail box and in an envelope was bullets. I did knot know what it meant at the time. But I only found out recently..the bullets were police issued. I can't give them to the police because like the rape evidence the cops will make it disappear. What do I Do? bullets in screw care.

[666daedsidog]

@tranjohn

My missus knew him from years ago. Apparently he was a prober nut, even shot his own brother for selling drugs. He really hated drug dealers, most assume thats why he killed carl.

[Jacintalee24]

what a good cop don't see many of those these days most PIGS ARE WELL PIGS but I call him a Police officer cause he deserves it

[jimmybenji]

what are you on about they all should be shot hahahahahahahahaha

FUCKING DOGS!!!!!!

[58Clams]

You know, If there were cops like Simon Illingworth. The public would like and respect the police. But because there's not! only corrupted police. That have to cover up fore one another no matter what. We the public are at there mercy to witch they show no remorse.

[58Clams]

That rapist cop ( is a narcissistic predator ) Who hate woman and in particular woman in the police force. I think that,s the case with most male cops.

[58Clams]

I was meant to say (my) medical evidence. The police should never be aloud to investigate them selves. Many victims like me will not report bean raped. Because of who the rapist is! I know with all my hart, that I will never trust the police for any thing ever again. They don't give a dam about any one but them selves. They may pretend that they wont to help you. But there only interested in protecting a fellow cop! and if that means that your life gets destroyed...well so be it.

[razehey]

I didnt say i was joking or found it funny. IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE thats all. Cos you would expect cops to protect you.

That is true cops will protect their own.

Cops are gangs, everything is built on gangs.

Are you male or female? so a cop was male and you are male? so the cop was homosexual?

[razehey]

Simon is a legend. out of like 500 cops.. he is the only one that i know of that stands up against crooked cops.

[Bandido97167]

The first person you call when someone is kicking your door down is a cop. Who else are ya gonna call? Ghostbusters???

[Freshhhhh1982]

Corrked cops are the worst. They should be shot like dogs.

[58Clams]

I was raped by a NSW cop from the CAU Internal Affairs. The NSW police protected him and victimised me. I wish I some one that could help me.

[razehey]

@58Clams U r a guy or girl? u got raped by a cop? is this a joke?

[58Clams]

Why would I joke about been raped by a cop? The basted worked at the Custom Assistance Unit Internal Affairs known as the CAU. I contacted the CAU after the Goulburn police deliberately sabotaged an assault case to witch I am still the victim of. The Goulburn police would NOT allow me to show the court me medical evidence. The cops covering up for the cops before them cost me every thing. I paid the price for trusting the NSW police force. I got raped by a cop and I had no were to go for help.

[bdbmedia1]

Simons book "Filthy Rat" now back in all Dymocks bookstores.

[58Clams]

Simon, you are my hero. I hope that you know that you are not alone. You have the guts to stand up agents police corruption. I am so sorry for what you have been though. One man agents evil. You can hold your head up! Were those barsted can't If you read this. please look up NSW police , you will see what I am talking about. I wish you all the best my friend.

[LogicHead]

I think most would appreciate my point of view by the responses I made to the other contributors above.

Simon Illingworth, go hard bud. My words here are heavy on form but light on substance. Just know that in a struggle, beauty is seen. I'm sure you see the beauty in life as much as the crap as well as anyone who is fighting the good fight. I can tell you that with my 32 years experience, you are fighting that fight. The good one. Good for you. You have made your impression on at least 1: me

[janadp01]

How many doughnuts does Christine Nixon eat per day?

[vkwagony]

sounds like yr criminals

[steve771000]

If your life is fucked for chasing criminals , THATS YOUR FAULT!!!! you had a choice you could have walked away.

[LogicHead]

Illingworth does not appear to be a complainer. He is an industrious and responsible human being. He found himself in a fucked situation and he is taking a fucking stand. Perhaps you want a police force which is bent or turns a blind eye and therefore allows crime to flourish. How can it stop? Asking for support where it is needed is a far fricking cry from complaining. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[steve771000]

He is a baby , all of a sudden the criminals were too big for him and now he wants our support, like i said , if u cant handle the fire stay out of the kitchen!!!

[LogicHead]

What makes you say he is a baby? It may be the crims AND the his fellow cops that are too big. What is he supposed to do? Catch the crims, risk being "let down" in a hairy situation, testify alone in court, all the while copping flak from the people who he works with? What is he supposed to do? If your answer is walk away, you are essentially saying the bent cops and those that turn a blind eye are the only ones who can remain? Is that the policing we want?? ***What is he supposed to do??***

[steve771000]

I dont see these bent cops hurting anyone innocent other then him, hence why he should have minded his own business.

[LogicHead]

I tell you what Steve. If an innocent someone you know gets murdered in a gangland war or they become addicted to drugs, don't go to the police for any sort of remedy: legal or just to have an ear to speak to. *You* are advocating to have a police force which is on the take or turns a blind eye to those who are on the take. That is what you are doing and the more energy you put into doing that, the more of it we will get. Crime brings suffering dude. That is why we fight it. Methods vary but

[LogicHead]

the goal is to reduce the suffering. Tell me, what do you want to achieve with everything you are writing here?

These 500 character limits are not conducive to substantive debates. My email is:

tom . 369 (at) hotmail . com (obviously with the @ symbol and no spaces).

Tom.

[steve771000]

for the record , the last 2 times i was held at gun point i didnt call the police , even though my sister is a legitamate copper , she didnt even bother doing anything , simon lllingworth is still a dog and people knowing this is all im trying to achieve i put my 2c worth in while you put at least $10 bucks worth , get fucked wanker!!!!!

[LogicHead]

So what happens now? We continue to have people holding up others at gun point? At what point does someone say, no, I'll take responsibility? Bud, feel free to write as much as you like. I won't stop you. Responsibility is the hard road. The rewarding one. The one which allows each of us to live with ourselves. It doesn't eliminate the option of taking the easy road but the easy road comes with increased suffering out there. Each of us makes that choice every moment.Illingworth is rare but good.

[centrefire00]

this guy isnt a hero...

these gangsters wouldnt kill a cop, even if most of the drug squad was bent.

Their not morons the criminals, they know the kind of heat a dead cop would bring on their business.

[LogicHead]

So, are you advocating that their business be sustained?

1. The criminals want it that way;

2. The bent cops want it that way;

3. You dismiss the honest cops who try to do their job! The man puts himself in a position of extreme personal sacrifice and you sit there dismissively.

What conclusion can anyone draw from your comments in terms of the business which *you* brought into the debate?

[Remus0387]

so called whistleblowers or grasses should not be demonized for exposing corruption. Cops who abuse their positions of power and authority deserve to go to jail. Integrity is more important than not dogging on your mates who are bent as hell.

[wombartos]

This guy is a REAL hero. He should get a medal for being so brave.

[bdbmedia1]

Make sure you watch the 2nd and 3rd Part to Simon's story..

[youngbeastintheeast]

were can i get it? is it in new zealand yet?

[bdbmedia1]

You can order from any bookstore in NZ + Australia now. Or purchase online direct from publisher 'Fontaine Press'

[ClockworkOrangeKid]

you dont bite the hand that feeds you.

[LogicHead]

Is it the criminals who should feed the police or the general community? Assuming you are not a criminal, that means you and me. Criminal activity destroys lives. It eats away at the health of a community.

Looking at your nickname, I think Kubrick was suggesting that we should all take responsibility for maintaining physical, emotional, mental and social health in the community. Perhaps you could elaborate on your one-liner because from where I sit, it is a sick thing to say in this context.

[bdbmedia1]

Book just released, purchase online: search for "Filthy Rat by Simon Illingworth"

[sillychops]

4 years not enough

[LogicHead]

Which four years are you talking about? Illingworth is saying he has been fighting corruption for 16 years. 16 years worried about whether you'll cop a bullet from people you work with. Adjusting your life to crooked cops. Worried whether socialising with people will bring those people into danger. Putting your own family at risk. All because of crooked cops. How long have you lived your life under these conditions?

[sillychops]

im not gonna watch all that again but im on the side of the non corrup cop

[bdbmedia1]

Read more about Simon's incredible story in his book: 'Filthy Rat'