Cro Mags

[vespamerica]

I saw this band opening for Motorhead in 83/84 in Paris...They were replacing Black Sabbath who had canceled their opening for the british band.

Man what a freaking show that was, they were sharp, next day I bought the age of quarrel in Amsterdam and listened to that album for a long long time.

Too bad these guys went nuts with one another...

[Iwontdounoharm]

Fuck John and Harley...It was good to watch Rocky and Doug playing together...

[pmaguy]

Seriously, Harley acts stupid. I just saw them at Liskfest...and guess who wasn't there. I'm glad too. They were still fucking amazing!

[mindyou78]

I love CRO-MAGS but Harley is so full of himself. Everytime I see a live performance it's the same shit with him "how long motherfuckers!" shut up already & play you fuckin midget, BLOODCLOT should knock your ass out... AGAIN.

[BlueDemon77]

Mindyou78 - Quite agree...Harley is a petty little thug basically, no respect for that.

I love Cro-Mags but man, Harley is a tool.

When did JJ knock Harley out?

[impresador]

who shot this video a deer or a bear?

[SpiderRico]

This was one of my favorite shows...Can't wait for it to happen again.

[TheMedium79]

I think a Cro-Mags-Pit is close to a slaughterhouse.

[charlieF]

2001

[RDX1981]

thank you man.

cro-mags are the best Hardcore band ever.

[mindyou78]

jiajiang why you u trying to sound all intellectual? In simple english you are a FAG. Shut up & enjoy the video or go watch your GAY porn dumb fuck.

[RjPSpaceInvader]

i didnt meen to say that about the bass player. im sorry dude

[RjPSpaceInvader]

bass player is a pussy

[jiajiang]

eatmytits 16,

excellent response and read narrative of my juxtaposition to the actual point of cromag lyrical content, it was meant as just that-they were brilliant, simple true ideas, regardless of the dummies I encountered at the shows. You got it, most didn't. Yours and mine aren't big words, but maybe some of people who think. Did you know any of the hanger-ons in the 80's on LES-not too bright, if not deplorable. The scene was gross. Cheers

[epittsburgh]

This is word salad.

Is English your second language? Dictionary before your next wordy speech, my man.

But I do agree there was indeed an air of homo-eroticism tying the scene together (no judgment implied -- just calling it as it is).

Baboons showing off their big purple butts, but with no female baboons around to see 'em!

[Zizek4U]

Jiajiang, what you are calling "the scene" is a bit ambiguous. Are you asserting that all Cro-Mags fans can be defined by reference to a certain phenomenon (herein, the "scene")? Any scene is merely a constructed community that offers a sense of belonging to negate the otherness and anonymity that is imposed upon us by the absence of meaning in a sterile world. Moderate Cro-Mag fans like myself had no affiliation to a scene while retaining an ostensibly ontological identy as a Cro-mags fan.

[sdmsamy]

its just music dude, good music yes.

[mindyou78]

Stop trying to sound smart loser.

[Kromattics]

yo....Wtf?

[handrolled69]

hey Jianjiang, im trying to understand your narrative on the Cro-Mags and homosexuality? you sound like a treehugging yuppie yellow motherfucker that got his ass beat numerous times down the LES!

[jiajiang]

In the era of aids fear, with this band basically wrecking all other bands, does question their macho sensibility, upright desire to dominate, and any socio-historicicity that explains other gets lost among heterosexual latent need for homesexual gatherings-just look at the video, it's kinda obvious,

[eatmytits16]

your abstruse and eloquentialized aforementioned modus of self reflected angst in the apparent of ones own contextualized attack based there in on behalf of yourself seems to infer as to your latent and repressed homosexual tendency towards male domination.....cucumbers not doing it for you?, try an eggplant.

i can use big words too!

[metalmunky44]

If you're refering to moshing as homosexual, look at it more as a way to get frustration out on other people than as a way to touch other dudes.

[Gravelandart]

Pseudo-critique mired in regressive Marxism immersed in smug contemporary sensibilities drains any topic of it's quintessential meaning. Namely, your overt references to homosexuality reveal the crude epicenter of your thoughts more than they shed any understanding of those that congregated at cro-mags concerts. Fuck you and your foolish deconstruction/post modren tripe...88

[212brianf]

somebody's on a thesaurus trip..

i'm all for an intelligent discourse, but that was painful to read..

[Zizek4U]

There is no basis for alluding to Marxism when confronting jiajiang's critique. Homosexuality or gender identity have very little to do with Marx (unless in refernce to the sweat-glistening bodies of the workers toiling in factories). However, I do draw issue with your claim of "those who congregated at Cro-Mags concerts." You are foolish not to realize that your congregation is merely an imagined community that has very litte cohesion outside of the discrusive meaning which you have given to it

[DANxCHORIN]

I hope John Joseph knocks you out, you Nazi bitch.

[vasarian]

I'm not sure what homosexuality has to do with the Cro-Mags jiajiang- they rock for all people! It sounds like you were a gay squatter back in the '80s and the Cro-Mags helped save you somehow - if so good for you

They were the best - Bloodclot = Round 2

[jiajiang]

A bickering band in the potentiate with one of the strongest messages ever of street ethic as subtextual concern to a broken narrative, such further possible signification of homosexuality thus becomes lost among crude imagery of shirtless men without dialectical truth. Cromags are most creative work known with platform of diachotomy to answer either concern of gender need or postmodern ruin as academic historical cathecting would let a squater be aware of, even in 2007.

[pw3uk]

You might think you have a way with words, but your grammar is fucking awful.

F for effort.

[diohaxedrt]

hardcoreeeeeeeeeeeee,

[Mozzer232]

I guess its only fitting that the 2nd greatest HC band of alltime hates eachother(the 1st being bad brains). I saw Harley's Mags around the time "Revenge" came out and it was great. Around the sametime I saw John's Age of Quarrel. That show was awesome too. It's ashaim I was out of the country when this tour happened!

[ohrj]

it's a shame to see a band i loved turned into a joke, i don't pick sides. i guess musicians always fuck shit up for each other. which form of cromags there will be, harley and his cool bands..i guess i'll just enjoy. fatboy tom Holland ( old hardcore fart)

[zorecobalt]

Harley , do you remember Seth from Brooklyn. I used to walk your Pit Bull and do you remeber Jason and the whole gang in Williamsberg in the 80's. Shit what did we not do. - Seth

[foffle]

The energy of Harley and Johns stage presence, when standing right next to each other rather than performing seperately, is completely fucking volatile!!! CHEERZ

[SpiderRico]

LOL, thanks for being THE authority on NYHC, sooo sorry the date was wrong...haha

[vajrahorn]

@PRETALIATION any body want to bet the pretaliation is harley?!!!

[HarleyFlanagan]

Yo Check Me out at

http://www.myspace.com/harleyf­lanagan

http://www.myspace.com/harleyc­romag

Peace

HF

[SteveHanson]

Just read Bloodclots book....he made you out like a real scumbag. You really rat the dude out like that and rip him off?

[HarleyFlanagan]

Its About as true as much as He was a navy seal wich he had the world believing for over 20 years, and supposedly i reviewed his book to but ive never read it.

He's just trying to sell books, he has been making a living off me since he joined the mags and he still is now with all this crap, it's all good this shit dont mean a thing

[HarleyFlanagan]

If I where to to start writting books talking shit about him it would have to be a vol 1 vol 2 vol 3 etc etc hahaha Yo how many of our friends did u rob LB's from john??? How many people have u back stabbed??

How many cro-mags songs did u really have Anything to do with writting hahah dont get me started hahaha

we all gotta grow up sooner or later none of this shit means a thing My book will be out soon,

It wont be about him hahahah

Peace

HF

[SteveHanson]

Yeah man 2 sides to every story people are going to understand that. He talks about alot of ill shit he did to people. He talks good about you too but as far as judging or taking sides in the beef people are gonna understand there's 2 sides. The fucking stories are amazing though, the tour stories like thinking Motorheads tour bus was for the mags, then finding out your "bus" was a '71 plumbing van parked behind it where you guys had to hold the carbuerator valve open while driving. Unreal dude!

[HarleyFlanagan]

it sounds funnier that way.

but we never thought the buss was for us, gimme a break, if john did he is as stupid as i think he is

[HarleyFlanagan]

But wait till i tell yall some real stories about that tour and everything else .

It was all pretty funny and i could really care about the negative aspects of it anymore its all in the past I aint dwelling on it no more anybody who has beef yo, ill fight Anybody Anytime if theres money involved hahaha otherwise hahah what the fuck do i care

John u want some?? lets do it on DVD hahah for the world to see or clam up already hahaha

[BlueDemon77]

Man - Bloodclot has openly called you out in Maximum R N R and Flipside....you never took up the offer dude.

[HarleyFlanagan]

But then again he thought the movie Spinal tap was a "real" documentary about a real band so...

Me and Doug Holland couldnt believe that shit hahaha

[HarleyFlanagan]

my man is sittin there like "yo these guys suck, why would anybody make a movie about them i never even heard of them" haha me and doug are like??? u r fuckin kidding right?? he thought it was a real flick,So We let him hahaha neither of us could believe that shit hahaha yeah hes Real smart hahaha

big fake ass navy seal hahahaha

[SteveHanson]

Thats fuckin funny!

[SteveHanson]

In his version he said he went to the bus and Lemmy opened the door. He said to Lemmy "I guess the party is on our bus",Lemmy says "No mate this is our bus, your vehicle is behind ours" John says he turned to all of you and said "our nightliner is in the back" and then you guys found the van. As much as I'd fucking love to hear your stories, SELL THEM! A Harley Flannagan tour story book? Youve been touring since you were like 10. Call it "Harley's War Stories" with the double meaning and all.

[zorecobalt]

Do you remember Jason and everyone from williamsberg from the 80's

[oscardelatorre]

Harley,its Simon Bar sinister here.Thanks for telling me about U-tube,lots of good shit on here-hoe are you??how are the kids??