@St00sh13 My point was that the original video I responded to was pointless. Just because you don't know everything about something doesn't mean you know nothing. If you can know what is not in the box, then the question is which "nots." I can think of many. There would be no before time, but rather an existence beyond time. Just because we don't know everything, doesn't mean we know nothing.
@ApologeticsBenJoiner "To hold even 1 idea requires time to exist." The question is, "Is your assertion really true?" Also, God isn't an infinite regress. God existing beyond time is irrelevant to the issue of moving across an inf. number of days with less than inf. speed.
I cannot believe that he made a video as if he were speaking to a two year old and there are STILL morons who cannot comprehend it. it makes me wonder at the future of humanity.
So you are asking your neighbour if the thing in the box is immortal?
If somebody was to give you the answer on the question what the thing in the box is not it would mean that he has already discovered what is in the box.
Or you could just walk up to the box and look inside, but that's not the point. It doesn't really matter what's in the box though does it? It could be a cat, but if your preacher tells you it's a dog, then a dog it must be. Silly naive young man.
People only argue against if not properly understand. As house once said; If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people.
... information letting you know it was, for example, not impersonal? In order to have that question answered you would require further evidence about the contents of the box, which was the ENTIRE point of that portion of the video! Next time, take a moment or two to *actually* think about what Qualiasoup said before making a video.
"If you can obtain information about what's not in the box, then you've obtained information about what's in the box- that's the simple truth."
Absolutely false. The only situation in which that would be there case is if you have a genuine dichotomy, which, of course, only applies to an enormously small portion of the possible situations. Also, immediately afterward you mentioned such a dichotomy (personal v. impersonal), but you forgot one important aspect- WHERE did you get the ...
God damn your stupid. When you accept magical thinking as a baseline for your view on reality (god goggles) then you are especially susceptible to any lie. Faith is gullibility and ignorance void of scientific evidence and analytical thinking. Think for your self or some one will do it for you, to your peril and their benefit. Unfortunately this is not possible for some. To those I give my condolences.
With information so easily available, being ignorant today is by choice.
lol...How can you answer your own questions to "What's in the box?" in the first place by saying "Is it all powerful or not?"
How the fuck can you know? That is the whole point of the question to start with. You don't know what's in the box because it's not able to be quantified or measured. So how can you even begin to deduce what characteristics belongs to what may or may not exist.
I found it painful and redundant to watch past one minute, so I stopped there. From I've seen though, you're wrong. He says it's okay to believe what you want, go ahead; just don't force it onto other people or try to argue it without a valid argument. (see: proof, evidence)
and stop justifying what you do not know.. whatever is or isn't.. is or isn't so focus on what matters.. (and all religion does is keep us separated, divided.. we are all people.. we all have the same beginning and the same end.. )
It's quite obvious you fall into the category of people that feel uncomfortable having their beliefs debunked. It's understandable, but instead of justifying utter bs in your mind, step back and try to understand what it is that was said in the video. Understand that your beliefs are personal and you can't prove them to any one and trying to do so, by the looks of this video, will only dig a deeper ditch.
You're not even qualified to refute the original argument. You stated absolutely nothing in this entire video. Had you comprehended the original video you would realize that knowing what's NOT in the box in no way proves what IS in the box. You're just talking out of your ass, made evident by the fact that you eyes are shifting around constantly as you search for the next bit of bs you can spew to attempt and refute what was originally stated.
@CaboDelWabo Right! Exactly! I watched this entire video and every time I was thinking "go on say it say your point say what you think is refutable" and then the entire video is like "bleh I didn't get it all the people didn't get it" it's so full of shit.
You can't narrow down what IS in the box. We don't know what's in the box.
Asking is it NOT NOT all powerful is an unanswerable question, because we don't know if it is all powerful in the first place.
If time and space began to exist, then we have no way of knowing what before even means, never mind what existed before.
He wasn't talking about changing the mind of the disembodied mind. To hold even 1 idea requires time to exist.
Also, if god is infinite, u still have the regress problem.
St00sh13 3 weeks ago
@St00sh13 My point was that the original video I responded to was pointless. Just because you don't know everything about something doesn't mean you know nothing. If you can know what is not in the box, then the question is which "nots." I can think of many. There would be no before time, but rather an existence beyond time. Just because we don't know everything, doesn't mean we know nothing.
ApologeticsBenJoiner 3 weeks ago
@ApologeticsBenJoiner "To hold even 1 idea requires time to exist." The question is, "Is your assertion really true?" Also, God isn't an infinite regress. God existing beyond time is irrelevant to the issue of moving across an inf. number of days with less than inf. speed.
ApologeticsBenJoiner 3 weeks ago
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@ApologeticsBenJoiner "To hold even 1 idea requires time to exist." The question is, "Is your assertion really true?"
Yes, it's true. Thoughts require neurons. Neurons fire over time.
St00sh13 2 weeks ago
I cannot believe that he made a video as if he were speaking to a two year old and there are STILL morons who cannot comprehend it. it makes me wonder at the future of humanity.
kickassatron420 1 month ago
Religion doesn't cause you to do stupid shit, you being a dumbass does lol.
shortguy257 4 months ago
So you are asking your neighbour if the thing in the box is immortal?
If somebody was to give you the answer on the question what the thing in the box is not it would mean that he has already discovered what is in the box.
ogrim99 5 months ago
This video sucks :(
Raspikeku 5 months ago
@Raspikeku This video makes no sense... "You can learn a lot from these NOTS" lololol so stupid
Raspikeku 5 months ago
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@Raspikeku This video makes no sense... "You can learn a lot from these NOTS" lol so stupid
Raspikeku 5 months ago
Hey, it was a nice try. Maybe next time.
LOLUMADCAUSUBAD 5 months ago
Or you could just walk up to the box and look inside, but that's not the point. It doesn't really matter what's in the box though does it? It could be a cat, but if your preacher tells you it's a dog, then a dog it must be. Silly naive young man.
cvanunen 6 months ago
People only argue against if not properly understand. As house once said; If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people.
Onbekend1980 6 months ago
... information letting you know it was, for example, not impersonal? In order to have that question answered you would require further evidence about the contents of the box, which was the ENTIRE point of that portion of the video! Next time, take a moment or two to *actually* think about what Qualiasoup said before making a video.
LeonhardEuler1 6 months ago
"If you can obtain information about what's not in the box, then you've obtained information about what's in the box- that's the simple truth."
Absolutely false. The only situation in which that would be there case is if you have a genuine dichotomy, which, of course, only applies to an enormously small portion of the possible situations. Also, immediately afterward you mentioned such a dichotomy (personal v. impersonal), but you forgot one important aspect- WHERE did you get the ...
LeonhardEuler1 6 months ago
God damn your stupid. When you accept magical thinking as a baseline for your view on reality (god goggles) then you are especially susceptible to any lie. Faith is gullibility and ignorance void of scientific evidence and analytical thinking. Think for your self or some one will do it for you, to your peril and their benefit. Unfortunately this is not possible for some. To those I give my condolences.
With information so easily available, being ignorant today is by choice.
scotttebben 7 months ago
lol...How can you answer your own questions to "What's in the box?" in the first place by saying "Is it all powerful or not?"
How the fuck can you know? That is the whole point of the question to start with. You don't know what's in the box because it's not able to be quantified or measured. So how can you even begin to deduce what characteristics belongs to what may or may not exist.
No1101 7 months ago
I found it painful and redundant to watch past one minute, so I stopped there. From I've seen though, you're wrong. He says it's okay to believe what you want, go ahead; just don't force it onto other people or try to argue it without a valid argument. (see: proof, evidence)
Okloper 7 months ago
and stop justifying what you do not know.. whatever is or isn't.. is or isn't so focus on what matters.. (and all religion does is keep us separated, divided.. we are all people.. we all have the same beginning and the same end.. )
davespark10 7 months ago
look up consciousness shift.. 2012
davespark10 7 months ago
Holy shit this guy's serious....
YoFaaa 7 months ago 2
It's quite obvious you fall into the category of people that feel uncomfortable having their beliefs debunked. It's understandable, but instead of justifying utter bs in your mind, step back and try to understand what it is that was said in the video. Understand that your beliefs are personal and you can't prove them to any one and trying to do so, by the looks of this video, will only dig a deeper ditch.
CaboDelWabo 7 months ago 14
@CaboDelWabo ^that.
shortguy257 4 months ago
You're not even qualified to refute the original argument. You stated absolutely nothing in this entire video. Had you comprehended the original video you would realize that knowing what's NOT in the box in no way proves what IS in the box. You're just talking out of your ass, made evident by the fact that you eyes are shifting around constantly as you search for the next bit of bs you can spew to attempt and refute what was originally stated.
CaboDelWabo 7 months ago 13
@CaboDelWabo Right! Exactly! I watched this entire video and every time I was thinking "go on say it say your point say what you think is refutable" and then the entire video is like "bleh I didn't get it all the people didn't get it" it's so full of shit.
Raspikeku 5 months ago
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CaboDelWabo 7 months ago