If you're too stupid to understand science, try religion." Case in point... the bible-belt mid-west United States.. where legions of walking stupidity congregate in Churches.. churches everywhere... billboards advertising bible verses and religious radio stations, polluting their minds with this religious fecal matter, shoving it down their throats, a dumptruck load at a time.. Probably impossible to find any legitmate scientific material anywhere.. they burned it all in the name of nothing.
I am a Christian who hasn't had a problem reconciling my faith to the observable universe studied by science. The two issues I have with the "religous" commitment to science are these:
1.Because a phenomenon can be explained from a relaltive position of understanding, it must be excepted as the only relevant data, which precludes any questioning of scientific discovery. It becomes "gospel".
2.I don't know is the fall back point for all failed inquiry.
Yep, Yopu know what was going on millions of years ago. What a Science Troll. I am no Creationist but your bullshit Illuminati University Science sounds absolutely rediculous. You wanna be Science Freaks were told everything you spout out. You cannot think outside the Box at all! Robot retards thinking you are so intelligent. Please don't bother with your "series". We have all heard this shit many times before. You actually sound quite stupid to me.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Hey Troll! I went to your Channel page and had a look. I can see you are an rider in this assholes posse. You brainwashed fuckers need help. The relligions you attack are Cons in my view too. But I would rahter hang with religious Zealots with at least some sense of ethical and moral conduct, than you fucking Heartless, self important witch doctors of the Illuminati Science Puppets Club are much worse.You do not worship? Bullshit. Your TextBooks and Witch Teachers r your God
The biggest bunch of hypocritical, genocidal, murdering, raping and intelectual suppressionist you could meet. These are the types you would rahter hang with. Low Standards Nazi
If science (which is a methodology) does not work, how does your computer operate? Are you using wish power. Prehaps you think it is the men in white coates that lock your door at night.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Hey Self Proclaimed Inteligent Person aka "Scientist. I was clear, I would not choose any religious group to spend time with. They are indeed the cause of much bloodshed throughout history. I said " I would rather hang with the local church goers who are often kind and humble, than with your Gang ot Pompous Text Book Worshipping Morons. You cannot think outside the Box. That is the diff between you dolts and Einstien or Tesla. You are Parrots and Drones. No Creativity
@VideoAudioDisco09 Once again, I realize the brainwashed sheep in the churches can be easily provoked to judgements and violence. But then, so can any group of closed minded, brainwashed humans. Sports Riots, Gang Fights, Tribal and even National Wars to name a few that are NOT associated with Religion. The Nazi Movement which utilized little religion and more Superior Race concepts as a motivator for violence and even mass murder. I understand a lot of "Scientists" joined happily. "Substance"?
The Nazi movement is like the bride of the Catholic Church which idealogically underwrote thier ethos.
Why do you this Catholic south America was so supportive from such a distance to the war.
No it is all well documented and history tells a long story of religion killing millions on evey continent in every century. The scale is the difference to gangs and sports riots. All done while preaching Brotherly Love.
@VideoAudioDisco09 We are all aware of these historic facts on religion corruption. The scale may be different to Gang fights and Sports Riots(basically tribalism) but they show religion is not the primary motivator.for mass violence as you say. Look at Ruwanda, and the Congo. No religions but witchcrafts and medicine men. Tribalism. Mass slaughters. Do you not think the Science acedemia is also brainwashed. Religion is a horrible control tool. Science? The Gulf? Fukushima ongoing right now. Not
90% christian Catholic priest assisted in the slaughter in everyway. But that is not all that is behind this.
It was with the arrival of Europeans that ethnicity became paramount. Looking to control the region, first the Germans (following the Berlin Conference) then the Belgians (who took control as a League of Nations mandate) imposed control through surrogates from the African community and thier faith &RELIGIOUS attitude, causing division
Science has been used like "selcected Versus" in the bible to Justify things.
However Science simply reports the best possible explination of the world.
Scientists in Germany were complient and even some supportive - if they were not jews.
The history of misuses of science to support racist ideologies, while current evolutionary biology does not support these ideologies and cautions in making claims about the genetic basis of behavior.
What an brain fucked asshole. Is this that dkstrong Shill by another name? SOunds like him. Uneducated? You sound like an acedemic retard to me. Scientists? All trained in University Departments funded and owned by the Scuminati. In my view, this vid producer is highly suspect. Shove your Big Bang shit in your ass. How dare you tell us the "Universe was very small and all gas before the "Stars Formed". How the fuck do any of you idiots know anything? Papers written by other Science Tards. Bunk!
Better than believing the man made scribblings of bronze and pre-bronxe age men in dressess, which many still wear.
Why are you afraid of the truth, is your life so empty to lose the delusion of a man made deity would be so hard to bear to find out thaat the snake oil salesmen like Kent have ripped you off.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Yep, You know what was going on millions of years ago. What a Science Troll. I am no Creationist but your bullshit Illuminati University Science sounds absolutely rediculous. You wanna be Science Freaks were told everything you spout out. You cannot think outside the Box at all! Robot retards thinking you are so intelligent. Please don't bother with your "series". We have all heard this shit many times before. You actually sound quite stupid to me.
It is commonly known as ‘The Big Bang’. However, we believe it was more of a sound than an actual crash. Therefore, we like to refer to it as ‘The Big Boing’, - when matter and anti-matter collapsed and out of the small bits of left over matter - you and I have evolved!
@ThevanGoghBlues i thank god you know enuf to know that even jesus was wrong on a few things. well, who are the failed prophets? yes, a few, like jesus, mohammed (peace and blessings blah blah blah), and moses. but the prophecies of those who were not just single random people who had hallucinations from starvation, but were peopl who HAD MANY! other prophecies that came true, and coincided with worldwide prophecies of the SAME DATE are VERY hard to dismiss, hun!
Why won't you make a little detour and create some material destroying the silly 2012 doomsday beliefs. I saw how deep it spread among my community and it's tough to fight it.
@comnenus42 thats not so cut and dry. im not saying it will be disastrous, but something IS gonna happen. you think its a coincidence that hundreds of people all around the world, who had no contact with each other thousands of yrs ago predicted it? (it wasnt just the mayans, hun)
But how can you not be convinced by the wonderful miracles of our Lord, like when they came to arrest him in the garden, and Peter cut the ear from the soldier. Jesus called to the soldier and said, 'Do you need a bandage over there?', and the soldier replied, 'No thanks, I've got one 'ear.'
You seem to think you know me how is this possible since I am particular about my friends.Notwithstanding my academic achievements in the words of Albert Einstien "the only people who understand relativity are small children and scientists".which one are you?I have not been home schooled although I wish I had since their GPA is higher than average.
Nobody knows why venus is spinning backwards, but they sure know it wasnt god! how do they know that??...people need to realize there is no evidence for god or against him. A hypothesis is basically a god of the gaps. there are many moons spinning backwards along with various planets, kind of amazing that saturn got rings too, While all you science guys are on the quest for truth, keep in mind there could be a god! and to say there isnt one is just a nothing statement! good luck proving it
@prophecy217 There could be a god, but why should someone disprove this? There's no proof of it's existence at all. It's like asking to disprove that smurfs don't exist.
There actually is a lot of evidence against the existence of a god.
- People on the earth believe in a lot of different gods.
- Holy books which claim to be the word of god contain mistakes.
2 strong arguments against a the existence of a god.
The stars beyond 6000 light years would still be winking on as the light gets here. Thats unless god placed the light of the rest of the universe just above planet Earth when he created it.
This is a pretty lousy debunk of creationism. Just tell 'em that if the universe is only 6000 years old, we wouldn't be able to see anything beyond 6000 light years. No galaxys.
@SvenTviking A common creationist "response" to this is that God created the light already underway. Ridiculous, I know. But it's their response, not mine.
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Your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums Whether space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since all movement is relative.If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?
@animefan2k9 I don't see how evolution is a religion, there is no God involved and there is no need for faith involved. Atheism is can be part of a religion, like buddhists, but athiesm it self is nothing but rejection of God concept.
@Alphacaliber no you don't. you refuse see to how complicated the universe is and how it has to fine tuned to support life. who made laws that govern the universe?
@animefan2k9 Pray tell me, what do you think 'believing' in atheism entails? The universe is very complex, this is true. It has been explained, scientificly, based on evidence and rational thought. What are these laws of which you speak? You look at the sheer volume of the universe where you cannot live, and yet you say it's fine tuned for life? Are you serious? Earth is the only place we can live without dying within 5 minutes. And even then earth is hostile. How arrogant of you.
@AndromedasWake your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums Whether space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since all movement is relative.If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?
@MrNewkingjames ''since all movement is relative'' And you don't understand the Theory of Relativity either. I know, theories are hard for home schooled people.
@MrNewkingjames "If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?" "Your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums"....WHAT? Are you SO STUPID that you take 1 sentence to make yourself an asshole and 3 sentences to counter yourself?
@MrNewkingjames Your grammar is weak and insipid and I was not impressed (you already established this by saying "insipid") by your ad hominums[sic]. Whether (phew, you got this word right, scared me for a second) space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since your grammar and argument is absolutely atrocious (ad-lib) . If you don't have at least a middle school level grasp on grammar, than[sic] why bother arguing?
Whenever you get a video debunking Kent Hovind you always get these mysterious characters posting absolute crap in his defence and aggressively down voting the video it happened in a spectacular fashion to Thunderf00t's video. kent Hovind has a very large brain washed family who spend their entire time commenting on these videos. Zyozyoma may be just one such brainwashed sibling.
The Big Bang is no less a creation myth, and many atheists fall into that trap so easily. I lol’d at the mention of the “early” universe. There never was an “early universe”! The universe always existed and always will!
@Zyozyoma Well, yes and no. As far as we can tell, the universe may well have always existed, but in what state? To call the Big Bang a creation myth is to ignore the enormous amount of data in support of the theory. To say that atheists "believe" in the theory doesn't make sense. The theory will stand or fall on its own merits, and its acceptance is not contingent with atheism, especially true given that I attend a church full of people who also accept Big Bang cosmology.
I must add, for those maybe a little bit confused or those who are in doubt, there is no war between CRE(a)TI(o)NISM and science !!!
You can't do nothing with imaginary opponent, in form of pure fabrication which is an essence of cre.ti.nism, let alone be at war with them / that / it ! LOL
Joke aside - this is an excellent channel, it stand shoulder-to-shoulder with cdk007, Thunderf00t, SpaceRip, Science & Reason, and many other channels.
Yo AndromedasWake! My finger moved faster than the speed of light in clicking my mouse with the cursor over the 'subscription' button and the next instant I know I find myself in a hospital bed with my home damaged... Could you help me find out how much energy was released? Thank you!
Aside from Creation and Evolution (or a mixture), what third option is there?
One may exist even though they seem mutually exclusive. But 4 u 2 say there is ALWAYS a thrid option is merely a tautology....The possibility that something exists isn't evidence that it does.
Your shirt example is great! Indeed beliving it had to be one of two colors when we know of more would be a false dichotomy.
Great presentation. Ever notice how Kent Hovind talks like some kind of hicktown carnival barker promoting some asinine exhibit? What a lying douchebag.
@AndromedasWake is it so wrong to call it the "big bang"? An explosion is in a way a very rapid expansion. I think it might be a bit imprecise, since the word "bang" implies that there was a sound though.
@prophetchannel An explosion is a rapid expansion, but a rapid expansion is not always an explosion. You could only relate the big bang with an explosion if you said there was an explosion [rapid or sudden increase in the amount or extent] of space. But we treat the increase in space as an expansion of the metric of space, so expansion is still a less confusing term.
And there was sound at the Big Bang. The acoustics of the early Universe is its own field of study.
@AndromedasWake Thanks for the good and clarifying response! I am surprised (in a good way) that you responded to such an old video. Come to think of it, I think I have heard of people studying the acoustics of the early universe. I wonder how it sounded like. I also heard that the color of the universe is creamy beige. Another question: if the universe, i.e. space is expanding, wouldn't light coming to us from far, far away have traveled faster than the speed of light? or would it take longer?
Hi - great video. This is a level of detail we are not used to. At times I think you are in danger of losing your audience if they haven't had the education that you have had. Sometimes baby-steps for ignoramuses might help. Be careful with the words 'imply' and 'infer' they are not interchangeable. Thanks very much though - great work.
Like some creationists any facts opposing his hypothesis he dismisses as lies or some conspiracy against religion/creationism(war against creationism) and distorts the theories into a strawman.
Lets say BB, Evo and Abio are all wrong misrepresenting/misunderstanding the theories destroys any credibility of anyone trying to debunk them to anyone who actually goes beyond creation sites to understand the theories.
About Venus' rotation, there was an documentary on National Geographic about big collisions in which they mentioned Venus was hit so hard by an asteroid or a planet while the planets were still cooling down and that the collision made it spin the opposite way of all the other planets in Solar System.
Dear AndromedasWake, would please speak a bit slower and clear, please? As does Potholer. Please bear in mind that your videos may be watched by people from all around the world and I have to say it is very, very hard to understad you and AronRa and Thuderf00t.
This is great if your goal is to debunk CrAP and have us rational people wave paper around in the air cheering. (Which I am doing, quietly at my desk)
Unfortunately I doubt any amount of evidence, debunking, and pwnage can change a bigoted creationist's mind. sadface
I am so very tired of hearing "but it's just a theory not a fact". How many times do we have to explain that "theory" means "idea that explains all the facts"???
Lots of theory (big bang etc.) which you state with absolute confidence as it were cast in stone, and you didnt really argue against conceptual creationism, you argued against the churches view of creationism, which is apparently an old Jewish bedtime story.
Sunshine, you can never really know anything of these natures with absolute certainty. But your very pushy about your views. This is not a good way to educate.
@paolo27 It means the concept or theory even that we were created by design, intelligent or otherwise. Look Im simply saying that you propose theory as fact. Its not a good way to be thinking or teaching. The natures of everything are still in sore question.
@david18861886 1- what evidence is there to even entertain the idea that we were created by design? 2- A "scientific theory" is far from stuff a scientist dream up at night. Google it . 3- If the nature of everything is still "in sore question" how do you know the answer is creation?
While I agree that the "creationist's" arguments are crap, My problem is this. If I knew the values for every variable involved in the "break" of a billiard game, I could use existing formulas etc. to know the outcome in advance. Now, if there were an "entity" with the means to know the value of every possible variable in existence, could it not (if it had the means to control it) create a singularity that would eventually go on to create this existence exactly the way it intended it to unfold?
At one point you said it was possible that Venus had been tidally locked with the earth moon system. Does that mean it would have been orbiting earth? I was under the impression that things would only be tidally locked to what they orbit. Im no creationist, just an astronomy buff and future student :P
@grameron It was just sloppy wording. Earth and Venus seem to have spin orbit resonance which could occur due to billions of years of gradual tidal interaction. Their resonance isn't perfect though and might be coincidental. No one is really sure!
@AndromedasWake In laymen terms when the two planets come near each other in their own orbits the effect each other tidally. Am I understanding that right?
And the Scientists know all of this how? Were they there. Has it happened somewhere else? NO. Really people like you put your FAITH in a mans THEORY and call it truth. If you really want to get wisdom, stop lying to yourself. Be honest with yourself. Realize that you, TRULY know no thing, nothing. Then and only then will you begin to learn. SEE. Truly SEE with your eyes and UNDERSTAND. Learn things for yourself. Don't recite like a frickin parrot what someone else THEORIZES about.
@jokerlyla for the record, science does not claim to "know" anything. it merely comes up with rational explanations for natural phenomena through logical processes based on observable evidence. No. No one was present at the origin of the universe, but there have been many observations made that SUGGEST that the Big Bang is how the universe formed. I agree with you regarding how it is impossible to truely (spell check?) know anything. With that being said, how do you know science is wrong?
@Brysonmdulack I never said all of science was wrong. I just think it is hypocritical of scientists to claim they KNOW by observation and "logical" evidence that their theory's are right and creationists theory's are wrong. Creationists observe the world and in my opinion think logically too. So, Like I stated before it all truly boils down to faith. You can put your faith in a big bang, or a God. Either we are here by accident or design. I am I wrong?
@jokerlyla scientists use observable evidence. creationists atribute it all to miracles. accident or design, the point it that were here. now we must figure out how.
Perhaps god "designed" the Big Bang?
To me this is just one way that science and religon are compatible, given the mountains of evidence supporting the Big Bang.
@Brysonmdulack I'm not saying God couldn't have created the universe this way if he wanted to, but since no religion or scripture says he didn't he obviously didn't. If you or others believe this view then you've made up your own religion and God.
@jokerlyla there is no math in creationism. its based on miracles and other supernatural things. there were no eyewitnesses at the biginning of the universe.
there is also history and artifacts for ancient greek egyptian chinese and indian religions. does that make those true as well?
i dont know about you, but the big bang reminds me a lot of "let there be light"
notice that the order in which god puts animals on the earth is very similar to the order scientists believe they appeared
@jokerlyla can you honestly see god or jesus trying to explain modern theories of the big bang and evolution to the people of 15 AC. the genesis account comes about as close as what the minds of that era could have handled
@jokerlyla again, scientists do not claim to "KNOW" anything. all they do is come up with the most logical answers to questions given observable evidence. that is why so many scientific theories have been falsified over time; because solid evidence has been found to its contrary. Until creationists can come up with some observable evidence and some logic suggesting that they are correct, it will be difficult to find acceptance in the scientific community.
@Brysonmdulack It has always been argued that the language of science is mathematics. If the Big Bang can be disproved mathematically then to all intents and purposes the theory is redundant.
@Brysonmdulack I'm not sure if they are creationists or not. I know they are mathematicians and scientists. But I guess if they disproved the theory they would lean more toward having a creationist viewpoint. And yes they did disprove it. You should look it up for yourself and see what you think about it. Of course not everyone agrees with their findings, but I think it more than disproves the big bang theory personally.
@jokerlyla first can you tell me where to find this and/or this person is because i cant find it anywhere? second, can you prove creationism mathematically?
@Brysonmdulack 0 x anything= 0. If you have nothing, you will always have nothing. As for mathematically proving creationism try Google/looking up Dr. Ivan Panin. He mathematically proves scripture to be of divine origin. Therefore, proving creationism by mathematical standards. You can also buy books or even Google how the Big Bang is mathematically impossible and impossible by other standards, if you want to learn more about the subject. I found things all over the place really.
@jokerlyla i actually watch a docmentary about that guy. did you know that similar numerical patterns can be found in moby dick? the bible has been (not surprisingly) changed and translated a lot over the centuries. and it was written by many men whos credibility was untested. thats not to say the bible is bad or wrong, but imperfect men wrote it, so it was bound to be imperfect.
@Brysonmdulack We can argue with each other forever I suppose. Since you have already formed your opinion on how the earth was created based on a man's theory and I on faith, mathematics, history, witnesses, scripture etc. it's really pointless arguing anymore. I know, you keep believing in your religion and I'll keep believing in mine. Regarding Moby Dick, It's easy for code researchers to find ELS's in books. It's however challenging to find ones that defy the laws of probability.
@jokerlyla did you read EVERYTHING i said. again you cannot assign a number to god, therefore creationism is not mathematic. again there histories and scriptures for any other religion. AGAIN what witnesses were at creation? Did you not say that believing in the big bang is also faith based?Can you (pretty please) respond to these things instead of ignoring them, Probability is about fractions. the "probabilities" in the bible are X over... what? your probabilities are undefined
@Brysonmdulack I'm not trying to ignore you. I'm getting your messages to quick to respond to them as quickly as you'd like. I'm not constantly at my computer you see. Many attribute the # 7 to God. Numbers have meanings. Particularly in Hebrew. Each letter has a number value. My whole point is not to prove Gods existence. I do not need to prove his existence to anyone. Jesus was present at creation according to scripture. I used Ivan Panin as an example. I'm not going to go over all of the
@jokerlyla im not asking you to prove his existence. i already believe in Him and Jesus and the Bible and all that jazz. The problem I have is when people try to insist that modern science and religion have to always be at odds with each other, when in fact they are not.
"The problem I have is when people try to insist that modern science and religion have to always be at odds with each other, when in fact they are not."
This only means you have not dig deep enough into science. Try to understand the mathematics behind it.
"try to elaborate on that. i dont understand what youre saying"
When you dig deeper into science, the mathematical parts, you realise pretty fast that all these beauty is nothing more than a series of mathematical formula's. Maybe a god did create this universe but the mathematical formula's are so that no god is required to run this universe once started. It is completely self-running.
@jokerlyla mathematical probabilities with you. There much to many. Do the research on your own. Come up with your own conclusions and opinions on these matters. If I can find them you should be able to find them too. My point is that there is more evidence for a creationists viewpoint than for the Big Bang. The Big Bang is purely Theory, and if you believe it you have to believe with blind faith.
@jokerlyla did you bother to take notice of the rather strange coincidences between modern scientific theory and genesis that i pointed out or did you skip over that too?
@jokerlyla as for mathematically disproving the big bang. i still couldnt find anything. In regards to mathematically proving creationism: that was kind of a rhetorical question. because creationism relies on god and miracles (neither of which can have a number assigned to them) they cannot be proven mathematically.
@jokerlyla the reason i ask if theyre creationists is this: if you already have a conclusion about the universes origins, then why do the research part anyway. and even if you did, you would bias the experiment.
@Brysonmdulack I could say the same thing about your Big Bang scientists. How can you believe in something you've never observed! It's a theory. It's more religious than scientific. And obviously they rejected a creationist view or they wouldn't have theorized about a big bang, which is pure speculation. Creationists at least have eye witnesses, history, artifacts, and math to prove their theory.
@jokerlyla another thing "How can you believe in something you've never observed?"
ive never observed Asia or dinosaurs but i know from the mountains of evidence at my disposal that they exist(ed). like the big bang... theres lots of evidence for it too
@jokerlyla: You honestly believe that eye-witnessing is the only form of evidence? Legally, circumstantial evidence is impermissible, or doesn't lead to a correct verdict? How then do you believe in a book, which is, at best, third hand information?
Having faith in religion is not the same as trusting science on at least two levels: science has demonstrably worked (say, in creating the computer you use); secondly, its pedigree is been documented back to observed fact. Religion has neither.
I am a nutty creationist who actually believes that the Earth, in fact the Universe, is only about 10,000 years old at most. That is if this is actually reality. That's a whole other discussion though. I just wanted to tell you I think that your dry wit accompanied by your awesome English? accent was hilarious. Thank you for your thought proving video and information about universal spacetime that I had never heard before. By the way, that guy you were talking about had
Damn he tore that Kent dude up. But I find it funny Christians try to argue with "evidence". What's the point? Christianity and most if not all religions are based on faith, not evidence.
Ok, kind of a weird question, but at around 1:20 he says "compare these two ...... definitions, and play spot the difference". What's the word that goes on the ......? People are trying to tell me it's "verified" but it honestly doesn't sound like it to me.
AdromedasWake, I appreciate what you do. But as a student of history, I would also appreciate your not polluting history with the same sort of crappy propaganda that Creationists do science (infograph at 5:11).
1. The so-called Dark Ages were not "Christian". They occurred 4 various reasons including climate change, but primarily b/c of repeated invasions of the Roman World by non-Christians.
2. They did not last for 1,000 years. Only 400 years after Rome's fall can really be called "Dark Ages"
3. After the fall of Rome, it was *Christians* who preserved and disseminated Roman literature, including that pertaining to classical scientific thought.
4. The Middle Ages, as they're properly called, were a time of far more complex intellectual activity than your infographic would have people think - the recovery from the Dark Ages began in earnest under Charlemagne and continued unabated until the Renaissance.
(And yes, I do realize the bit about the invading barbarians being non-Christian should be parenthetical - meaning that their being non-Christian is irrelevant to the historical outcome - but I've already removed & re-posted for punctuation editing & am not doing it again.)
@EyeLean5280: Your history here reminds me of the World History that I was taught at the Catholic grade school I attended. They had a great way of interpreting the middle ages as a barbarous, and sometimes Islamic, pit into which Ireland, the catholic Franks and the church in Rome (but not Constatinople, at least not until the HRE) held at bay. Feudalism was a return of civilization; I've wonder how the serfs felt about it. BTW, the graphic is from elsewhere; AW isn't a historian, either.
@puncheex, it may remind you of it, but it is not it. My few posts here of course cannot impart a deep understanding on the period but even in these 1500 words, I do not describe your Catholic grade school mythology.
I suspect you are both not reading very carefully and interpreting most ungenerously.
I was merely trying to refute the infographic's implication that Christianity might have somehow "caused" the "dark ages." I think any emotionally mature, fair-minded person can see this.
well you did debunk an idiotic creationist. There's still no absolute way to know whether there is some cosmic entity (natural law and physics in our universe) that has a conscious control over the order of it all. Not really LIKELY either way I suppose.
Only just got around to watching this. Excellent video - will watch the rest now.
Huttate1 4 days ago
Good stuff. These vids are a good launching point if you want to explore further. Thanx
paramattic70 1 week ago
Are you Alexander Siddig?
ZachSolten 1 month ago
If you're too stupid to understand science, try religion." Case in point... the bible-belt mid-west United States.. where legions of walking stupidity congregate in Churches.. churches everywhere... billboards advertising bible verses and religious radio stations, polluting their minds with this religious fecal matter, shoving it down their throats, a dumptruck load at a time.. Probably impossible to find any legitmate scientific material anywhere.. they burned it all in the name of nothing.
poopjuice0 3 months ago
I am a Christian who hasn't had a problem reconciling my faith to the observable universe studied by science. The two issues I have with the "religous" commitment to science are these:
1.Because a phenomenon can be explained from a relaltive position of understanding, it must be excepted as the only relevant data, which precludes any questioning of scientific discovery. It becomes "gospel".
2.I don't know is the fall back point for all failed inquiry.
1+2=Science answers all Or it doesn't.
RIGHT
TheRoninshaman 3 months ago
Yep, Yopu know what was going on millions of years ago. What a Science Troll. I am no Creationist but your bullshit Illuminati University Science sounds absolutely rediculous. You wanna be Science Freaks were told everything you spout out. You cannot think outside the Box at all! Robot retards thinking you are so intelligent. Please don't bother with your "series". We have all heard this shit many times before. You actually sound quite stupid to me.
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism
Get Help
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Hey Troll! I went to your Channel page and had a look. I can see you are an rider in this assholes posse. You brainwashed fuckers need help. The relligions you attack are Cons in my view too. But I would rahter hang with religious Zealots with at least some sense of ethical and moral conduct, than you fucking Heartless, self important witch doctors of the Illuminati Science Puppets Club are much worse.You do not worship? Bullshit. Your TextBooks and Witch Teachers r your God
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism
ethical and moral conduct, ha ha ha
read history in the real world loser.
The biggest bunch of hypocritical, genocidal, murdering, raping and intelectual suppressionist you could meet. These are the types you would rahter hang with. Low Standards Nazi
If science (which is a methodology) does not work, how does your computer operate? Are you using wish power. Prehaps you think it is the men in white coates that lock your door at night.
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Hey Self Proclaimed Inteligent Person aka "Scientist. I was clear, I would not choose any religious group to spend time with. They are indeed the cause of much bloodshed throughout history. I said " I would rather hang with the local church goers who are often kind and humble, than with your Gang ot Pompous Text Book Worshipping Morons. You cannot think outside the Box. That is the diff between you dolts and Einstien or Tesla. You are Parrots and Drones. No Creativity
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism No Creativity thats why nothing has advanced in the last 500 years.?
no one thinking outside the box mmmm don't see it.
Good people are good people no matter where they are or what they have being coerced into believing.
However mind numbing religious belief opens the door for thoes same folk to join a lynch mob or crusade.
I hope the "kind and humble" rubs off on you - don't see it yet.
Addhominum attacks - sign of no substance thought or evidence.
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Once again, I realize the brainwashed sheep in the churches can be easily provoked to judgements and violence. But then, so can any group of closed minded, brainwashed humans. Sports Riots, Gang Fights, Tribal and even National Wars to name a few that are NOT associated with Religion. The Nazi Movement which utilized little religion and more Superior Race concepts as a motivator for violence and even mass murder. I understand a lot of "Scientists" joined happily. "Substance"?
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism
The Nazi movement is like the bride of the Catholic Church which idealogically underwrote thier ethos.
Why do you this Catholic south America was so supportive from such a distance to the war.
No it is all well documented and history tells a long story of religion killing millions on evey continent in every century. The scale is the difference to gangs and sports riots. All done while preaching Brotherly Love.
What a Con.
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 We are all aware of these historic facts on religion corruption. The scale may be different to Gang fights and Sports Riots(basically tribalism) but they show religion is not the primary motivator.for mass violence as you say. Look at Ruwanda, and the Congo. No religions but witchcrafts and medicine men. Tribalism. Mass slaughters. Do you not think the Science acedemia is also brainwashed. Religion is a horrible control tool. Science? The Gulf? Fukushima ongoing right now. Not
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism
Ruwanda ...??? Are you kidding.
90% christian Catholic priest assisted in the slaughter in everyway. But that is not all that is behind this.
It was with the arrival of Europeans that ethnicity became paramount. Looking to control the region, first the Germans (following the Berlin Conference) then the Belgians (who took control as a League of Nations mandate) imposed control through surrogates from the African community and thier faith &RELIGIOUS attitude, causing division
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@MAN2011ism
Science has been used like "selcected Versus" in the bible to Justify things.
However Science simply reports the best possible explination of the world.
Scientists in Germany were complient and even some supportive - if they were not jews.
The history of misuses of science to support racist ideologies, while current evolutionary biology does not support these ideologies and cautions in making claims about the genetic basis of behavior.
Racism comes from the bible.
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
What an brain fucked asshole. Is this that dkstrong Shill by another name? SOunds like him. Uneducated? You sound like an acedemic retard to me. Scientists? All trained in University Departments funded and owned by the Scuminati. In my view, this vid producer is highly suspect. Shove your Big Bang shit in your ass. How dare you tell us the "Universe was very small and all gas before the "Stars Formed". How the fuck do any of you idiots know anything? Papers written by other Science Tards. Bunk!
MAN2011ism 4 months ago in playlist CrAP Debunked
@MAN2011ism
Yes Scientists are trained .... to think.
Better than believing the man made scribblings of bronze and pre-bronxe age men in dressess, which many still wear.
Why are you afraid of the truth, is your life so empty to lose the delusion of a man made deity would be so hard to bear to find out thaat the snake oil salesmen like Kent have ripped you off.
VideoAudioDisco09 4 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Yep, You know what was going on millions of years ago. What a Science Troll. I am no Creationist but your bullshit Illuminati University Science sounds absolutely rediculous. You wanna be Science Freaks were told everything you spout out. You cannot think outside the Box at all! Robot retards thinking you are so intelligent. Please don't bother with your "series". We have all heard this shit many times before. You actually sound quite stupid to me.
MAN2011ism 4 months ago
It is commonly known as ‘The Big Bang’. However, we believe it was more of a sound than an actual crash. Therefore, we like to refer to it as ‘The Big Boing’, - when matter and anti-matter collapsed and out of the small bits of left over matter - you and I have evolved!
for more turn to w w w. k m e n t e m t. c o m
kmentemt 5 months ago in playlist CrAP Debunked
wow the guy that made this video is so angry.
LiberalsUtopian 5 months ago
@LiberalsUtopian It is hard talking to really stupid, uneducated, brainwashed religious ID-iots without getting angry or calling them names.
gregrutz 4 months ago
7:30
Hi hi, I get it XD
Anyway, whats the name of the song in the end?
AK47own 5 months ago
At about 6:02, you say "inferring". Surely you meant to say "implying"?
ianmathwiz7 5 months ago
@ThevanGoghBlues i thank god you know enuf to know that even jesus was wrong on a few things. well, who are the failed prophets? yes, a few, like jesus, mohammed (peace and blessings blah blah blah), and moses. but the prophecies of those who were not just single random people who had hallucinations from starvation, but were peopl who HAD MANY! other prophecies that came true, and coincided with worldwide prophecies of the SAME DATE are VERY hard to dismiss, hun!
guineapiggyman 5 months ago
@ThevanGoghBlues i never anything like that. all i said was a change is coming. in your twisted mind change MUST be bad, tho, right? jeez.
guineapiggyman 5 months ago
love the video
sydtocreation 5 months ago in playlist atheism - AndromedasWake
Brilliant opening to the video :D
OblivionSilk 6 months ago
Ammunition fully locked and loaded!
marianbordadora 7 months ago
Why won't you make a little detour and create some material destroying the silly 2012 doomsday beliefs. I saw how deep it spread among my community and it's tough to fight it.
comnenus42 7 months ago
@comnenus42 thats not so cut and dry. im not saying it will be disastrous, but something IS gonna happen. you think its a coincidence that hundreds of people all around the world, who had no contact with each other thousands of yrs ago predicted it? (it wasnt just the mayans, hun)
guineapiggyman 6 months ago
But how can you not be convinced by the wonderful miracles of our Lord, like when they came to arrest him in the garden, and Peter cut the ear from the soldier. Jesus called to the soldier and said, 'Do you need a bandage over there?', and the soldier replied, 'No thanks, I've got one 'ear.'
gamesbok 7 months ago
"Hey, there's a spot in Ur anus" LoL!
lgalicki 9 months ago
You seem to think you know me how is this possible since I am particular about my friends.Notwithstanding my academic achievements in the words of Albert Einstien "the only people who understand relativity are small children and scientists".which one are you?I have not been home schooled although I wish I had since their GPA is higher than average.
MrNewkingjames 9 months ago
You seem to think you know me how is this possible since I am particular about my friends.
MrNewkingjames 9 months ago
Nobody knows why venus is spinning backwards, but they sure know it wasnt god! how do they know that??...people need to realize there is no evidence for god or against him. A hypothesis is basically a god of the gaps. there are many moons spinning backwards along with various planets, kind of amazing that saturn got rings too, While all you science guys are on the quest for truth, keep in mind there could be a god! and to say there isnt one is just a nothing statement! good luck proving it
prophecy217 9 months ago
@prophecy217 There could be a god, but why should someone disprove this? There's no proof of it's existence at all. It's like asking to disprove that smurfs don't exist.
There actually is a lot of evidence against the existence of a god.
- People on the earth believe in a lot of different gods.
- Holy books which claim to be the word of god contain mistakes.
2 strong arguments against a the existence of a god.
KittyGotSued 9 months ago
The stars beyond 6000 light years would still be winking on as the light gets here. Thats unless god placed the light of the rest of the universe just above planet Earth when he created it.
SvenTviking 9 months ago
This is a pretty lousy debunk of creationism. Just tell 'em that if the universe is only 6000 years old, we wouldn't be able to see anything beyond 6000 light years. No galaxys.
SvenTviking 9 months ago
@SvenTviking A common creationist "response" to this is that God created the light already underway. Ridiculous, I know. But it's their response, not mine.
atheistram 7 months ago
I know about as little about astronomy and physics as humanly possible, so I prefer to stick to what I know; namely philosophy.
This was not only educational but jam-packed with delicious pwnage.
It's a shame that all the time you put into creating this series will be wasted on those whom it would do the most good.
Amarkcalledme 9 months ago
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Your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums Whether space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since all movement is relative.If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?
MrNewkingjames 10 months ago
@MrNewkingjames I... what?
Hmmm. Yes.
AndromedasWake 10 months ago 18
@AndromedasWake more lies to support your hateful religion
animefan2k9 1 week ago
@animefan2k9 I suppose the hateful religion in wuestion here is evolution?
TioPhillippe 6 days ago
@TioPhillippe yes
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 I don't see how evolution is a religion, there is no God involved and there is no need for faith involved. Atheism is can be part of a religion, like buddhists, but athiesm it self is nothing but rejection of God concept.
TioPhillippe 12 hours ago
@animefan2k9 What religion is this?
Alphacaliber 1 day ago
@Alphacaliber religion of evolution and atheism
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 You don't know what either are, that is self evident.
Alphacaliber 1 day ago
@Alphacaliber no you don't. you refuse see to how complicated the universe is and how it has to fine tuned to support life. who made laws that govern the universe?
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@animefan2k9 Pray tell me, what do you think 'believing' in atheism entails? The universe is very complex, this is true. It has been explained, scientificly, based on evidence and rational thought. What are these laws of which you speak? You look at the sheer volume of the universe where you cannot live, and yet you say it's fine tuned for life? Are you serious? Earth is the only place we can live without dying within 5 minutes. And even then earth is hostile. How arrogant of you.
Alphacaliber 23 hours ago
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@AndromedasWake your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums Whether space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since all movement is relative.If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?
animefan2k9 1 day ago
@MrNewkingjames ''since all movement is relative'' And you don't understand the Theory of Relativity either. I know, theories are hard for home schooled people.
gregrutz 9 months ago
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@MrNewkingjames "If you don't have constructive responses than why bother arguing?" "Your arguments are weak and insipid and I was not impressed by your ad hominums"....WHAT? Are you SO STUPID that you take 1 sentence to make yourself an asshole and 3 sentences to counter yourself?
Guildwars55 7 months ago
@MrNewkingjames
What the hell are you talking about?
:|
kissmygrittsyall 7 months ago
@MrNewkingjames Andromedas explicitly said that all motion is relative. I don't see your point.
ianmathwiz7 5 months ago
@MrNewkingjames Your grammar is weak and insipid and I was not impressed (you already established this by saying "insipid") by your ad hominums[sic]. Whether (phew, you got this word right, scared me for a second) space is expanding or the astral bodies are moving is irrelevant since your grammar and argument is absolutely atrocious (ad-lib) . If you don't have at least a middle school level grasp on grammar, than[sic] why bother arguing?
iz2sicc 3 months ago in playlist XChristian idiots,and rationalist's that debunk them
Whenever you get a video debunking Kent Hovind you always get these mysterious characters posting absolute crap in his defence and aggressively down voting the video it happened in a spectacular fashion to Thunderf00t's video. kent Hovind has a very large brain washed family who spend their entire time commenting on these videos. Zyozyoma may be just one such brainwashed sibling.
vohshkab 10 months ago
I m sorry to say sir, you can not OWN in an intellectual debate with a monkey, however he will always own you in a poop flinging contest..
babelfsh66 10 months ago
@bellow
Urgg stop contradicting yourself
POLO2941 11 months ago
The Big Bang is no less a creation myth, and many atheists fall into that trap so easily. I lol’d at the mention of the “early” universe. There never was an “early universe”! The universe always existed and always will!
Zyozyoma 11 months ago
@Zyozyoma Where's your evidence of this, dickhole?
hondadrvr3 10 months ago
@Zyozyoma Well, yes and no. As far as we can tell, the universe may well have always existed, but in what state? To call the Big Bang a creation myth is to ignore the enormous amount of data in support of the theory. To say that atheists "believe" in the theory doesn't make sense. The theory will stand or fall on its own merits, and its acceptance is not contingent with atheism, especially true given that I attend a church full of people who also accept Big Bang cosmology.
gardener68 10 months ago
@Zyozyoma no, it will not. The universes expansion will doom it.
TheMysteriousAtheist 10 months ago
@Zyozyoma
That's got to be one of the most absurd claims I've ever heard.
I would sooner believe that a supernatural being created the universe than accept that it has always been.
Amarkcalledme 9 months ago
I just love this series
meleder 1 year ago
anybody searched hugh ross? See creation as science by him on here.
TommyNitro 1 year ago
I must add, for those maybe a little bit confused or those who are in doubt, there is no war between CRE(a)TI(o)NISM and science !!!
You can't do nothing with imaginary opponent, in form of pure fabrication which is an essence of cre.ti.nism, let alone be at war with them / that / it ! LOL
Joke aside - this is an excellent channel, it stand shoulder-to-shoulder with cdk007, Thunderf00t, SpaceRip, Science & Reason, and many other channels.
Merry Christmas & HNY from Sarajevo, Bosnia
Santa
santasa99 1 year ago
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santasa99 1 year ago
Beside the bible, what else do religious folks know? The Bible Has ZERO Science!
flightkiller09 1 year ago
Yo AndromedasWake! My finger moved faster than the speed of light in clicking my mouse with the cursor over the 'subscription' button and the next instant I know I find myself in a hospital bed with my home damaged... Could you help me find out how much energy was released? Thank you!
June28July 1 year ago
Hey AndromedasWake,
Kent used a dichotomy by giving two options.
Wouldn't you first have to provide a thrid option before you call his dichotomy false?
Thanx,
Gavin Majors (My real name by the way, what's yours?)
gavinmajors 1 year ago
@gavinmajors You shouldn't need to be told. Assuming that the two options given are positive claims, there is ALWAYS a third option:
"Neither of the above."
You might as well ask whether my T-shirt is red or green, and then look blank when I tell you it's blue. As AW said, it's a false dichotomy.
RedGreenInBlue 1 year ago
@RedGreenInBlue
Hey thank you for the response!
Aside from Creation and Evolution (or a mixture), what third option is there?
One may exist even though they seem mutually exclusive. But 4 u 2 say there is ALWAYS a thrid option is merely a tautology....The possibility that something exists isn't evidence that it does.
Your shirt example is great! Indeed beliving it had to be one of two colors when we know of more would be a false dichotomy.
God bless,
Gavin Majors
gavinmajors 1 year ago
Nice video, very informative.
615Deathdealer 1 year ago
Great presentation. Ever notice how Kent Hovind talks like some kind of hicktown carnival barker promoting some asinine exhibit? What a lying douchebag.
jdh501 1 year ago
@AndromedasWake is it so wrong to call it the "big bang"? An explosion is in a way a very rapid expansion. I think it might be a bit imprecise, since the word "bang" implies that there was a sound though.
prophetchannel 1 year ago 2
@prophetchannel An explosion is a rapid expansion, but a rapid expansion is not always an explosion. You could only relate the big bang with an explosion if you said there was an explosion [rapid or sudden increase in the amount or extent] of space. But we treat the increase in space as an expansion of the metric of space, so expansion is still a less confusing term.
And there was sound at the Big Bang. The acoustics of the early Universe is its own field of study.
AndromedasWake 1 year ago 12
@AndromedasWake Thanks for the good and clarifying response! I am surprised (in a good way) that you responded to such an old video. Come to think of it, I think I have heard of people studying the acoustics of the early universe. I wonder how it sounded like. I also heard that the color of the universe is creamy beige. Another question: if the universe, i.e. space is expanding, wouldn't light coming to us from far, far away have traveled faster than the speed of light? or would it take longer?
prophetchannel 1 year ago 2
@AndromedasWake
I bet a recording of that would be epic.
thissystemneeds 1 year ago
@AndromedasWake The term Big Bang was coined by a creationist in order to disparage the theory of rapid expansion.
mucephi1 10 months ago
Hi - great video. This is a level of detail we are not used to. At times I think you are in danger of losing your audience if they haven't had the education that you have had. Sometimes baby-steps for ignoramuses might help. Be careful with the words 'imply' and 'infer' they are not interchangeable. Thanks very much though - great work.
brainburger 1 year ago
Kent hovind is an exellant argument against home schooling.
panterguy 1 year ago 2
Bob. Bob. Bob. Bob....... All of our guests are named Bob.
mmmmmarcus 1 year ago
Please give your honest rating for Discovery Institute's creation astronomy "documentary".
The Privileged Planet --> watch?v=JnWyPIzTOTw
It currently has more thumbs up then thumbs down.
KKM121 1 year ago
I call them creat-tards.
krissyeh 1 year ago
Like some creationists any facts opposing his hypothesis he dismisses as lies or some conspiracy against religion/creationism(war against creationism) and distorts the theories into a strawman.
Lets say BB, Evo and Abio are all wrong misrepresenting/misunderstanding the theories destroys any credibility of anyone trying to debunk them to anyone who actually goes beyond creation sites to understand the theories.
robvlob 1 year ago
About Venus' rotation, there was an documentary on National Geographic about big collisions in which they mentioned Venus was hit so hard by an asteroid or a planet while the planets were still cooling down and that the collision made it spin the opposite way of all the other planets in Solar System.
Sh1n0kk 1 year ago
Dear AndromedasWake, would please speak a bit slower and clear, please? As does Potholer. Please bear in mind that your videos may be watched by people from all around the world and I have to say it is very, very hard to understad you and AronRa and Thuderf00t.
Thank you.
flaviofavero77 1 year ago
This is interesting stuff as I plan to get my Doctorate in some field of physics. Theoretical, Astrophysics, experimental, or even particle.
Robtehman 1 year ago
anyone else catch the "drops soap for jesus" beside hovinds name
blazereef 1 year ago
This is great if your goal is to debunk CrAP and have us rational people wave paper around in the air cheering. (Which I am doing, quietly at my desk)
Unfortunately I doubt any amount of evidence, debunking, and pwnage can change a bigoted creationist's mind. sadface
JimboWizbo 1 year ago
I am so very tired of hearing "but it's just a theory not a fact". How many times do we have to explain that "theory" means "idea that explains all the facts"???
infernvsnecrohag 1 year ago 2
5:28 funny bible you have there :).
Blackerer 1 year ago
you are talking too fast bro
hamberg42 1 year ago
Conservation of angular momentum.
spooky9791 1 year ago
What a noob, he spelt pwnage with an 'o'.
DoctorChainsaw 1 year ago
The worst creationists for me are the ones that are just complete jackasses beyond the fact that they are creationists -- like Hovind.
Daruqe 1 year ago
Lots of theory (big bang etc.) which you state with absolute confidence as it were cast in stone, and you didnt really argue against conceptual creationism, you argued against the churches view of creationism, which is apparently an old Jewish bedtime story.
Sunshine, you can never really know anything of these natures with absolute certainty. But your very pushy about your views. This is not a good way to educate.
david18861886 1 year ago
@david18861886 Please enlighte us about this "conceptual creationism" you speak of.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27 It means the concept or theory even that we were created by design, intelligent or otherwise. Look Im simply saying that you propose theory as fact. Its not a good way to be thinking or teaching. The natures of everything are still in sore question.
david18861886 1 year ago
@david18861886 1- what evidence is there to even entertain the idea that we were created by design? 2- A "scientific theory" is far from stuff a scientist dream up at night. Google it . 3- If the nature of everything is still "in sore question" how do you know the answer is creation?
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th I never proposed that.
Now, lets get back to what I was talking about. Here it is, summed up nicely for you to understand.
The big bang theory, is a theory.
Can you agree with that?
david18861886 1 year ago
@david18861886 Agreed. It`s a "scientific theory".
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27 I apologise for being a bit of a prick about it.
david18861886 1 year ago
While I agree that the "creationist's" arguments are crap, My problem is this. If I knew the values for every variable involved in the "break" of a billiard game, I could use existing formulas etc. to know the outcome in advance. Now, if there were an "entity" with the means to know the value of every possible variable in existence, could it not (if it had the means to control it) create a singularity that would eventually go on to create this existence exactly the way it intended it to unfold?
possumverde 1 year ago
@possumverde
Yes, but it does not really change anything. The 'entity' is still supernatural, not part of the equation. If it would be then it's not supernatural.
didjabringadidjalong 1 year ago
For Great Justice!
simon24h 1 year ago
What's sad, the most creationists will not ask an expert or question their[fake scientists] sources of info and evidence for their claims.
HybridD91 1 year ago
At one point you said it was possible that Venus had been tidally locked with the earth moon system. Does that mean it would have been orbiting earth? I was under the impression that things would only be tidally locked to what they orbit. Im no creationist, just an astronomy buff and future student :P
grameron 1 year ago
@grameron It was just sloppy wording. Earth and Venus seem to have spin orbit resonance which could occur due to billions of years of gradual tidal interaction. Their resonance isn't perfect though and might be coincidental. No one is really sure!
AndromedasWake 1 year ago 3
@AndromedasWake In laymen terms when the two planets come near each other in their own orbits the effect each other tidally. Am I understanding that right?
robvlob 1 year ago
Dr. Ivan Panin
jokerlyla 1 year ago
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Dr. Ivan Panin found some really cool stuff out.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
And the Scientists know all of this how? Were they there. Has it happened somewhere else? NO. Really people like you put your FAITH in a mans THEORY and call it truth. If you really want to get wisdom, stop lying to yourself. Be honest with yourself. Realize that you, TRULY know no thing, nothing. Then and only then will you begin to learn. SEE. Truly SEE with your eyes and UNDERSTAND. Learn things for yourself. Don't recite like a frickin parrot what someone else THEORIZES about.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla for the record, science does not claim to "know" anything. it merely comes up with rational explanations for natural phenomena through logical processes based on observable evidence. No. No one was present at the origin of the universe, but there have been many observations made that SUGGEST that the Big Bang is how the universe formed. I agree with you regarding how it is impossible to truely (spell check?) know anything. With that being said, how do you know science is wrong?
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack I never said all of science was wrong. I just think it is hypocritical of scientists to claim they KNOW by observation and "logical" evidence that their theory's are right and creationists theory's are wrong. Creationists observe the world and in my opinion think logically too. So, Like I stated before it all truly boils down to faith. You can put your faith in a big bang, or a God. Either we are here by accident or design. I am I wrong?
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla scientists use observable evidence. creationists atribute it all to miracles. accident or design, the point it that were here. now we must figure out how.
Perhaps god "designed" the Big Bang?
To me this is just one way that science and religon are compatible, given the mountains of evidence supporting the Big Bang.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack I'm not saying God couldn't have created the universe this way if he wanted to, but since no religion or scripture says he didn't he obviously didn't. If you or others believe this view then you've made up your own religion and God.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla there is no math in creationism. its based on miracles and other supernatural things. there were no eyewitnesses at the biginning of the universe.
there is also history and artifacts for ancient greek egyptian chinese and indian religions. does that make those true as well?
i dont know about you, but the big bang reminds me a lot of "let there be light"
notice that the order in which god puts animals on the earth is very similar to the order scientists believe they appeared
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack ha! i said biginning
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla can you honestly see god or jesus trying to explain modern theories of the big bang and evolution to the people of 15 AC. the genesis account comes about as close as what the minds of that era could have handled
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla in other words: to me, scripture DOES indicate a big bang and evolution
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla also no scripture or religion says atoms exist, but they do.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla again, scientists do not claim to "KNOW" anything. all they do is come up with the most logical answers to questions given observable evidence. that is why so many scientific theories have been falsified over time; because solid evidence has been found to its contrary. Until creationists can come up with some observable evidence and some logic suggesting that they are correct, it will be difficult to find acceptance in the scientific community.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack It has always been argued that the language of science is mathematics. If the Big Bang can be disproved mathematically then to all intents and purposes the theory is redundant.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla soooo...... was it disproved mathematically? by noncreationists?
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack I'm not sure if they are creationists or not. I know they are mathematicians and scientists. But I guess if they disproved the theory they would lean more toward having a creationist viewpoint. And yes they did disprove it. You should look it up for yourself and see what you think about it. Of course not everyone agrees with their findings, but I think it more than disproves the big bang theory personally.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla first can you tell me where to find this and/or this person is because i cant find it anywhere? second, can you prove creationism mathematically?
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack 0 x anything= 0. If you have nothing, you will always have nothing. As for mathematically proving creationism try Google/looking up Dr. Ivan Panin. He mathematically proves scripture to be of divine origin. Therefore, proving creationism by mathematical standards. You can also buy books or even Google how the Big Bang is mathematically impossible and impossible by other standards, if you want to learn more about the subject. I found things all over the place really.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla i actually watch a docmentary about that guy. did you know that similar numerical patterns can be found in moby dick? the bible has been (not surprisingly) changed and translated a lot over the centuries. and it was written by many men whos credibility was untested. thats not to say the bible is bad or wrong, but imperfect men wrote it, so it was bound to be imperfect.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack We can argue with each other forever I suppose. Since you have already formed your opinion on how the earth was created based on a man's theory and I on faith, mathematics, history, witnesses, scripture etc. it's really pointless arguing anymore. I know, you keep believing in your religion and I'll keep believing in mine. Regarding Moby Dick, It's easy for code researchers to find ELS's in books. It's however challenging to find ones that defy the laws of probability.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla did you read EVERYTHING i said. again you cannot assign a number to god, therefore creationism is not mathematic. again there histories and scriptures for any other religion. AGAIN what witnesses were at creation? Did you not say that believing in the big bang is also faith based?Can you (pretty please) respond to these things instead of ignoring them, Probability is about fractions. the "probabilities" in the bible are X over... what? your probabilities are undefined
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack I'm not trying to ignore you. I'm getting your messages to quick to respond to them as quickly as you'd like. I'm not constantly at my computer you see. Many attribute the # 7 to God. Numbers have meanings. Particularly in Hebrew. Each letter has a number value. My whole point is not to prove Gods existence. I do not need to prove his existence to anyone. Jesus was present at creation according to scripture. I used Ivan Panin as an example. I'm not going to go over all of the
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla im not asking you to prove his existence. i already believe in Him and Jesus and the Bible and all that jazz. The problem I have is when people try to insist that modern science and religion have to always be at odds with each other, when in fact they are not.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack
"The problem I have is when people try to insist that modern science and religion have to always be at odds with each other, when in fact they are not."
This only means you have not dig deep enough into science. Try to understand the mathematics behind it.
obaeyens 1 year ago
@obaeyens try to elaborate on that. i dont understand what youre saying
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
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@Brysonmdulack
"try to elaborate on that. i dont understand what youre saying"
When you dig deeper into science, the mathematical parts, you realise pretty fast that all these beauty is nothing more than a series of mathematical formula's. Maybe a god did create this universe but the mathematical formula's are so that no god is required to run this universe once started. It is completely self-running.
obaeyens 1 year ago
@jokerlyla mathematical probabilities with you. There much to many. Do the research on your own. Come up with your own conclusions and opinions on these matters. If I can find them you should be able to find them too. My point is that there is more evidence for a creationists viewpoint than for the Big Bang. The Big Bang is purely Theory, and if you believe it you have to believe with blind faith.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla did you bother to take notice of the rather strange coincidences between modern scientific theory and genesis that i pointed out or did you skip over that too?
Let me also point out that i share your religion
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla as for mathematically disproving the big bang. i still couldnt find anything. In regards to mathematically proving creationism: that was kind of a rhetorical question. because creationism relies on god and miracles (neither of which can have a number assigned to them) they cannot be proven mathematically.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla the reason i ask if theyre creationists is this: if you already have a conclusion about the universes origins, then why do the research part anyway. and even if you did, you would bias the experiment.
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@Brysonmdulack I could say the same thing about your Big Bang scientists. How can you believe in something you've never observed! It's a theory. It's more religious than scientific. And obviously they rejected a creationist view or they wouldn't have theorized about a big bang, which is pure speculation. Creationists at least have eye witnesses, history, artifacts, and math to prove their theory.
jokerlyla 1 year ago
@jokerlyla another thing "How can you believe in something you've never observed?"
ive never observed Asia or dinosaurs but i know from the mountains of evidence at my disposal that they exist(ed). like the big bang... theres lots of evidence for it too
Brysonmdulack 1 year ago
@jokerlyla: You honestly believe that eye-witnessing is the only form of evidence? Legally, circumstantial evidence is impermissible, or doesn't lead to a correct verdict? How then do you believe in a book, which is, at best, third hand information?
Having faith in religion is not the same as trusting science on at least two levels: science has demonstrably worked (say, in creating the computer you use); secondly, its pedigree is been documented back to observed fact. Religion has neither.
puncheex 1 year ago
Do you make that music in the intro?
mrhnm 1 year ago
keep up the good work
greger333 1 year ago
i'm turning you in to the fcc, there's no way this amount pure ownage should be legal on the internet lol
rphamning 1 year ago
It is a good "crappy" anogram. These (creationists) are God's geniuses-- Oh "Crap"---Van
van1976 1 year ago
Say, where do you get your information on the big bang?
KnightTemplar108 1 year ago
I'm learning a lot from your videos. Thank you for taking the time to create them. Ignorance definitely isn't bliss.
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago
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good intentions with not alot of information behind it. respond to blaker0311@gmail.com
gwennie226 1 year ago
Hello AndromedasWake,
I am a nutty creationist who actually believes that the Earth, in fact the Universe, is only about 10,000 years old at most. That is if this is actually reality. That's a whole other discussion though. I just wanted to tell you I think that your dry wit accompanied by your awesome English? accent was hilarious. Thank you for your thought proving video and information about universal spacetime that I had never heard before. By the way, that guy you were talking about had
gwennie226 1 year ago
Your videos rule man. I do learn a lot from them. Thank you.
jeans1515 1 year ago
AAAAAWWWWWWWW SNAP! "In the beginning... dirt." Damn dirty atheists got SERVED!
cjc813 1 year ago
Kent Hovind does drop soap for Jesus. Thumbs up from me.
cjc813 1 year ago 3
disgusting that hovind actually taught high school science.
aguteempasil 1 year ago
@aguteempasil Disgusting that Hoving actually taught.
cjc813 1 year ago
Damn he tore that Kent dude up. But I find it funny Christians try to argue with "evidence". What's the point? Christianity and most if not all religions are based on faith, not evidence.
luv4drums1 1 year ago
Ok, kind of a weird question, but at around 1:20 he says "compare these two ...... definitions, and play spot the difference". What's the word that goes on the ......? People are trying to tell me it's "verified" but it honestly doesn't sound like it to me.
Anyone?
CoolFire666 1 year ago
@CoolFire666: "verified"
puncheex 1 year ago
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AdromedasWake, I appreciate what you do. But as a student of history, I would also appreciate your not polluting history with the same sort of crappy propaganda that Creationists do science (infograph at 5:11).
1. The so-called Dark Ages were not "Christian". They occurred 4 various reasons including climate change, but primarily b/c of repeated invasions of the Roman World by non-Christians.
2. They did not last for 1,000 years. Only 400 years after Rome's fall can really be called "Dark Ages"
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
3. After the fall of Rome, it was *Christians* who preserved and disseminated Roman literature, including that pertaining to classical scientific thought.
4. The Middle Ages, as they're properly called, were a time of far more complex intellectual activity than your infographic would have people think - the recovery from the Dark Ages began in earnest under Charlemagne and continued unabated until the Renaissance.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
(And yes, I do realize the bit about the invading barbarians being non-Christian should be parenthetical - meaning that their being non-Christian is irrelevant to the historical outcome - but I've already removed & re-posted for punctuation editing & am not doing it again.)
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@EyeLean5280: Your history here reminds me of the World History that I was taught at the Catholic grade school I attended. They had a great way of interpreting the middle ages as a barbarous, and sometimes Islamic, pit into which Ireland, the catholic Franks and the church in Rome (but not Constatinople, at least not until the HRE) held at bay. Feudalism was a return of civilization; I've wonder how the serfs felt about it. BTW, the graphic is from elsewhere; AW isn't a historian, either.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex, it may remind you of it, but it is not it. My few posts here of course cannot impart a deep understanding on the period but even in these 1500 words, I do not describe your Catholic grade school mythology.
I suspect you are both not reading very carefully and interpreting most ungenerously.
I was merely trying to refute the infographic's implication that Christianity might have somehow "caused" the "dark ages." I think any emotionally mature, fair-minded person can see this.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
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EyeLean5280 1 year ago
Where do I get the song at the end!
pendulousphallus 1 year ago
@pendulousphallus That's MC Hawking's "What we need more of is science".
SeltsamerAttraktor 1 year ago
well you did debunk an idiotic creationist. There's still no absolute way to know whether there is some cosmic entity (natural law and physics in our universe) that has a conscious control over the order of it all. Not really LIKELY either way I suppose.
FotoSpencer 1 year ago