Robert Spencer - The Truth About Muhammad - Part 6

[pigment777]

Bla bla bla... who the fuck cares! Jesus is dead and gone. So is Mohammed, Tao, Budda etc.

[QatariWarrior]

In the Jewish Talmud the book Zohar,III, (282), tells that Jesus died like a beast and was buried in that "dirt heap...where they throw the dead bodies of dogs and asses, and where the sons of Esau {the Christians}and of Ismael [the Turks],also Jesus and Mahommed,uncircumcized and unclean like dead dogs are buried." Shame on those Christians who are ignorant and careless about these matters.

[QatariWarrior]

Now some Christians might think that these are simply old beliefs of the Jewish religion,and that Judaism might have softened its attitudes toward Jesus Christ and Christians. In actual fact,these are the formal policies of the Jews state. In fact, In Jewish schools in Israel it is forbidden to even read from the New Testament gospels or even mention the name of Jesus Christ.

[QatariWarrior]

Just Google this to know the TRUTH about Jews: - Iore Dea (157, 2) H - Zohar 1160a - Babha Kama (113b) - Choschen Ham(226,1) - Choschen Ham(183,7) - Sanhedrin 58b - Sanhedrin 57a - Moed Kattan 17a - Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 - Baba Mezia 114a-114b

[5haiHulud]

THIS GUY JUST SHUTS DOWN ISLAM.

[ALITECH1]

Robert is mistaken in decribing islam as a political system. There are no politicians in islam, those who practice politics do so outside of the religion because no where in the Qur'an and sunnah will you find politics. Lastly, there is a largely overwhelming majority of peaceful muslims here in the usa. So the question is : Yes howcome they can't find a nonjihadist leader??? Well the truth is there are plenty and it's not that they can't find them, the problem is they aren't looking for any!

[bhigr]

No where in the sunnah will you find politics? What about mohammed's sunnah? He was the leader of a statelet and a warlord. Islam rejects categorically the division of mosque and state. In it's core, Islam is a political ideology!

[ALITECH1]

I'm talking about the politics of what we have here in the usa and that of other so called democratic countries.

Your system practices and teach lies and deception. All politicians are veiwed as liars and this is not the same for islam.

So i personally don't see any comparison in the two systems. only that they are contrary to each other.

[bhigr]

I actually agree. Islam and democracy are mutually exclusive. Islam teaches submission under a single leader, the imaginary Allah, and the Caliph, the successor of Mohammed. A theocratic absolute dictatorship is the model of government according to Islam.

Islam also rejects universal human rights. Human rights depend on religious affiliation. On top are the muslims, then come the dhimmis and finally atheists, polytheists and slaves have virtually no rights...

[bhigr]

Oh, and women are also second class citizens. They are more or less the property of their husbands. They shall be beaten, if they do not obey; surah 4, verse 34...

[ALITECH1]

This verse says lightly and the sunnah which explains this verse forbids the hitting in the face or leaving marks upon her body. So basically you have a wrong understanding of this verse.

(As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, Great (above you all).

[bhigr]

Please improve your reading skills. The term "lightly" is added by the translater. Therefore, it is in brackets. I have several translations, so you can't fool me...

[ALITECH1]

My reading skills are just fine. The word lightly is translated from arabic and lightly is implied within the meaning.

A lack of a countries wealth would not interfere with me living in an islamic country. The countries that you meantion that are not doing well is basically because they are not fully complying with islam (says the scholars) and so they are having difficulties. I am preparing to leave the US in the futr when im done with my business here. Islam is everything 2 me.

[bhigr]

Do your business elsewhere! You are an enemy of the USA. Do your business with muslims.... The more islamic a country becomes, the more it falls into the abyss of ignorance, violence and poverty.... You'll see, it's rooted in the quran...

[ALITECH1]

Yes there is major poverty and corruption and violence in the lands of the muslims because of the nonmuslims presence there. Open your eyes!!!

The presence of the US in afghanistan and Iraq is the reason for the poverty, corruption and violence.

I will finish conducting my business here as usual whether you like it or not. I am an American citizen so were my parents and theirs. And only a fanatic would call me an enemy simply because i have different views!!!

Islam is the truth!!!!!!

[bhigr]

Ridiculous, the reason for muslim poverty and backwardness are muslims. Islam is a bad joke!

[ALITECH1]

Ridiculous???? No one is going door to door calling to islam yet it is the fastest growing religion in the world including here in the west.

There is balance with everything, e.g. Good and Bad, so there will be those who reject the truth and come up with all kind of flemsy excuses concern it. That is the balance i guess, not to mention that it is Allah (swt) who guides to His religion.

You are misinformed and thats your problem not mine. Islam is the truth and it will prevail.

[bhigr]

@ALITECH1 Non sequitur, this has nothing to do with poverty in muslime countries.

Fastest growing religion? Fastest breeding humans. People are born into Islam or forced to convert, they don't choose to be muslims...The rate of voluntary conversions is abysmal...

[ALITECH1]

wow, apparently you know nothing about islam if you say slaves have no rights in islam. And how does islam reject universal human rights???

[bhigr]

Because under shariah law non-muslims are second or third class citizens (dhimmis or slaves). They do not have the same rights as muslims. The rights of human beings are not universal. Don't you understand that?

[ALITECH1]

As for the Dhimmis or slaves they don't have the same rights of the muslims because they dont have the same obligations of the muslims, but yet they choose to live in the land of the muslims.

Their status (that can change) does permit them to change. They can change their status under the shariah if they so desire by becoming muslim if not then they must accept that status for what it is.

Here in the usa Only the white and wealthy are first class citizens, so whats the difference???

[ALITECH1]

Of course the submission will be under a single One and that One is Allah(swt) the One who has the right to be submitted to.

The One who created everything and has given us everything. We were created for His worship and we submit to Him not to any leader. No , we are commanded to obey the leaders and those in authority but submission as you put it,is only to Allah(swt).

Our way of live is islam and has been perfected by the All Wise and is more suitable than your democracy.

[bhigr]

Your way of live is abysmal. All the Islamic countries, wherever you look, from sudan to Iran, from Pakistan to Saudi-Arabia are riddled by poverty, corruption and violence.

If you believe that Shariah is the way to go, then leave the USA and live in one of those countries, where it is implemented... Good luck!

[onepath09]

Jews have to sacrifice animals for forgiveness of sin, Christians pray for forgivness through the blood of Christ which was shed for all sin of all men. . What do Muslims do to be free of sin?

[ALITECH1]

Muslims make taubah (repentence prayer) for all sins committed.

[mushu144]

you guys are delusional.

why can't you just NOT sin?

[MrCropper]

[5:00] A questioner mentioned Yaron Brook... but Spencer didn't reply to that exactly.

[MANCKIE]

brilliant

[edStueart]

Yes! A Manhattan Project for non-Middle Eastern energy sources!!!!!!!