'Ghosts of the Iraq War' Haunt Congress in Senate Chamber

[xXSgtWolfXx]

The War on Terrorism reminds me of Vietnam. The type of enemy we are fighting, the protestors, the length of the war.

[DanielSvensson666]

WTF!!!

Do you really think it is that easy???

Do you think you can just stop fighting and they will stop bombing places around the world?

I'm sorry but it just does not work that way... So let the people in charge do their job. They do not want this war any more than you. But they are not to ignorant to see that it is the only way to solve the problem called terrorism...

[1037pm]

Pretty clever if you ask me.

That sure got their attention, everyone was sitting down at the end.

I can tell that they were really nervous, guilt sucks.

[venamuss1]

STOP OBAMA!!!! STOP OBAMA!!!!!

[pele6922]

I don't hear them blaming George Bush, Condi Rice, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Colin Powell and the other architects (if you consider a shit sandwich they dont have to eat, art). Iraq is our 20 somethings Vietnam thanks to those clowns. Only Powell had the dignity to leave the Bush Crew; he redeemed himself some. The others are con- artists, liars, traitors to the Constitution, war profiteers, and political hacks. You can guess which label fits each clown. Iraqi puppets get no sympathy either.

[chadpopstar]

STOP THE WARS!

[chaosad999]

MOVE TO CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lolermanche]

YA MATE MOVE HERE :D

[JDDasbach]

Stop funding the war would doesn't solve anything, they would get less vehicles and other stuff to defend themselves with, so probably more would get killed, pulling all troups out of there would be better!

[KyndestKid]

This America and its first Amendment at it's best. God bless this great country!

[profitprophet368]

good stuff

[maxwelk1]

From the 1st leaflet...

"It is unworthy of a civilized country to allow itself to be governed by an irresponsible clique that has surrendered to base instinct."

[EarthyPoetGrrl]

From the 4th leaflet of the White Rose....

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will not leave you in peace."

I thank you!

[elcatrin505]

look at that, how many people do you think were in there protesting? 20? 50? 100? just think if we all showed up on the at the senate and just fucking stormed the building and burnt it to the ground, now that would be a great day for america

[SAMMYJS99]

even better:

NO GOV'T.!!!!!

[darkyoda]

The only problem with that idea, is should it actually happen, then the feds would be on your rear with charges faster than you can say "conspiracy to commit a crime."

Doesn't matter what you think guys, remember, you can't threaten or be perceived to threaten, any elected official in government. Remember, back when Clinton first got elected, some guy in Florida made basically the same statement that Elcatrin505 did, and it got him put in prison for several years. Watch what you say.

[elcatrin505]

fuck the govt, i hope they are listening, i'll go out shooting g-men than spend one day in prison for speaking my mind, fuck the government! oh and if we're storming washington dc and we burn congress to the ground im sure we wont be worried to much about federal charges yo

[DEVRIMCI2007]

its called democracy in the fullest

[digitalgenitals]

We the people... Yea right. I wish Congress really would restore order. Starting with themselves.

[3bleadpencil]

US Foreign Policy: Cia Using Drug money to fund wars in Nicaragua. CIA Sets up Al-Qaeda to fight Soviets. 10 Year Daily Bombing Raid in IRaq(1990). 09 Year Bombing Raid iN Laos + Cambodia Nixon Denied these events(above)On Dec. 31, 1970 "Air America" South East Asia(Opium trade by CIA Pilots) FUnding Unpopular Militias with money and weapons to overthrow democratically elected governents. -Iran COup 1953 -supporting or planting unelected dictators (Noriega,Marcos,Mobutu,Diem,Ba­tista,Pahlevi)

[syanarasucka]

cccccccccoooooool, i'd be nervous as hell to do that, i'm surprised ti took them that long to restore order

[willtrib]

Beautiful!

[kingchaunc]

this is the funniest thing I ever saw

[hudsoncar]

From this side of the grave, STOP THE WAR, NO

MORE WARS. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A JUST WAR.

[oldhacks]

I'm still waiting to hear from you Mike.

[stophypocrisy]

Don't trust Michele Moore, He's a pro communist Jewish Supremacist supporter.

The Coup De Ta is done; your country has been taken over. The only thing anyone can do now is go into survival mode. Get Guns, lots of guns and ammo. People will be very hungry and all hell will soon break out. This is a deliberate plane to finally destroy the Constitution by America's enemies that now dominate our Government

[yowzers101]

You're fucking retarded. Our country isn't doing so well, now is it? Michael Moore tells the truth straight up.

Vote Ron Paul, the only candidate who will fix this corrupted country!

[gravel2008]

Not the only one...

[SASRed87]

What the hell do you know about war or government, you can't even spell 'coup d'etat'... or Michael, or plan ...

[yowzers101]

LMAO, dumbass alert. I can obviously spell Michael, plan, and coup d'etat. Do you even know what the means yourself? It's French just to help you out.

[dadica99]

You are somm birocratik idiot. What if he can not spell?

[mrmojoroo]

Well by and by, way after many years have gone,

And all the war freaks die off, leavin' us alone,

we'll raise our children in the peaceful way we can,

It's up to you and me brother

To try and try again.

[mrmojoroo]

i am so proud of you. thank you for speaking up for the rest of us who want peace. thank you for jeopardizing your lives for us. thank you. thank you. thank you.

[SnowflakeMoray]

Nancy Pelosi = 100% Iraq war neocon enabler the single worse betraying Democrat in History

[Truegeeza]

this is why we should stand up to what we believe in there are cowards in the goverment that will try and hide every truth from us and poison the very hearts of the true democratic nations with blunders and lies that will only make our world a much more dangerous place. We learnt from history that whatever bush administration does is nothing but lies and deception

[gavingoo]

Get em. Time for revolution. Ron Paul 2008 at the convention!

[carolmoore]

Congress is owned by military-industrial-israel lobby complex. Secession is only answer - break up the empire.

[dghulderman628]

not only should congress stop funding but we the people can help stop this illegal war by informing the youth to not join the military. without soldiers and money they will have no war!

[dondebar]

EXCELLENT! This should be done wherever possible until they stop the murder.

[kimintexas]

Our Senate has failed us! God in heaven please save our children and our country from the war mongers and war profiteers!

[eekdog2005]

The ghost of Pat Tillman, murdered in cold blood in Iraq, covered up by the military.

[kashmeerimunda]

i think he was covered in afghanistan.

[bulmer13]

wow, what a bunch of losers....I'm a ghost!!  Ooooooh, scary! You know what else is scary? The hairy legs of the Code Pink Women. Could they be bitter because this is the only way they can get attention. Mmmmmmmyes.

[busherbee]

you go to iraq asshole

[rainingwolf]

Thank you for protesting this obscene and immoral war! Bless your courage!

[alexcastellanosleon]

that was fricking cool and scary

[hypnometal]

That was quite clever. I wonder who organized that?

[marcusjansen239369]

if we all decide to that, it will end! Do it!

[mom4education]

That was absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

[TheAntiV]

Since when did acting like a whiny spoiled cretin change anything. Truly, no matter the strategies of the past, this did not help your cause in anyway possible. Acting through emotion rather than reason never fixes anything.

[maxx1000]

Doing nothing accomplishes just what?

How is the Senate acting reasonable?

[TheAntiV]

I'm not telling you to do nothing. Not everything you do has to be judged by emotions you know. And as long as Senaters arn't screaming at each other, I'm pretty sure they are acting reasonable, if not completely.

[maxx1000]

Acting reasonable = not holding war criminals accountable?

HA!

[TheAntiV]

You shouldn't get opinion mixed with fact. There's a very large difference between the two.

[maxx1000]

There are different ways of reacting to various situations.

To date, submissiveness by the people to their Representatives have shown our Representatives that We, the People, don't care. Ergo the continuation of the occupation.

Write letters, march in the streets, occupy offices, wear buttons, etc. Find some way to speak out and reclaim your role as your Representatives employer.

QUESTION:

If Congress is listening, why is America still occupying Iraq/Afghanistan? Have We spoke loud enough?

[TheAntiV]

To answer your question:

1) Even if the majority of Americans think the war was not justified that does not mean they will follow the majority of the people and pull out because the United States was never meant to be a direct democracy where majority rules. Its a Federal Republic.

2) Not everyone who thinks the war was unjustified believes that we should immediately pull out and let the Iraqis fend for themselves.

You need to take a Political Science course.

[maxx1000]

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AntiV,

1) Still can't negate the correct solution to this problem which ultimately lies WITH US, the PEOPLE!

2) McLOLERZ--- Some people SHOULD HAVE pulled out!

THE PEOPLE SHALL REMEMBER,

COME VOTING TIME NOVEMBER!

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[maxx1000]

Now, I never even suggested "PULLING OUT"

YOU DID!

YOU FRAMED IT THAT WAY!

I want to know where the hell is the PEACE KEEPING MISSION?

[TheAntiV]

2) Now whats with the anger? As the person in the video, you are not getting anywhere by raising your voice.

[CodeRed001]

No, you won't get anywhere WITHOUT raising your voice.

[dghulderman628]

you're right theantiv we should just shut iup and go back to sleep, everything is fine, the economy is great, martial law is a conspiracy theory along with cfr, nau, and the amero, you stupid sheep.

[TheAntiV]

1)If you realized anything you would know that the people have numerous solutions to correct this dilemma. And even if the anti-war crowed were the majority that does not mean they are "the people." And just because the people want it does not mean they are correct and its the right course of action. This is why the founding fathers dumbed a direct democracy and the idea of "majority rules."

"Sometimes the majority means that all the fools are on the same side.

[TheAntiV]

I'm not telling you to do nothing. Not everything you do has to be judged by emotions you know. And as long as Senaters arn't screaming at each other, I'm pretty sure they are acting reasonable, if not completely.

[jondough83]

This was great, it gives me some hope that We The People, haven't completely turned into Sheeple

[gladiadorextremo]

stop this war .period.

[marlon8a91]

wow! that was incredibly great!

[GustafSjoblom]

Why would this make the news? Even if I agree with them on the issue (and I do) anyone can get into the senate and scream out their view regardless of if its sound advice or batshit crazy.

I'm surprised that this channel showed this in a endorsing sort of way. This is the way I'd expect "save marriage from the gays" and such to act.

Or perhaps I'm just boring. :P

[djtrixen]

Gustaf: That channel is CSPAN2, which regularly shows debate and discussion on the floor of the US Senate. They don't endorse any political positions or parties. It is a non-profit public service channel. This just happened to be one of the more interesting moments captured.

[GustafSjoblom]

With channel I was referring to the YouTube-channel not C-span. :)

[TheNextTurn]

All actions that go to stopping this war should be allowed as long as those actions are not violent.

Those people did not use violence nor did they do anything illegal. Yes they should be kicked out of the building but that is a great example of speaking your mind.

[maineboy1979]

I agree with the sentiment too, but when people do things like this, it just galvanizes the people on the opposite side and gives them even more ammunition against us. Stuff like this is why the conservatives call us names like "left wing moonbats" and the like.

[JeffMaus]

so make it weeks and not seconds.

[maxx1000]

I disagree. For far too long the Senate has DICTATED the view that the war must go on while attempting to placate the notion that it must end.

What shall the People do, observe?

When the people dutifully observe, the Senate and House call the shots. But then, when that happens, WHO DOES CONGRESS REPRESENT?

The silent?

[mikeaz77]

I agree with the sentiment, not the tactics; by disrupting a meeting for mere seconds you undermine your credibility, allowing yourselves to be seen as radicals and the general population and media tend to ignore those types of personalities. Instead, consider using your energy to organize think tanks and supporters to assist and affect real change.

[maxx1000]

Think tanks started this occupation and war of aggression.

SILENCE IS BETRAYAL.

Think tank that.

[mikeaz77]

Well, maybe...right leaning, rich think tanks are what got us here? Further, I said nothing about being silent, but making yourself a regular joke to the congress begins to negatively impact mass media appeal, what you need to convince the media to carry that message. Groups like this should expect the same results if they continue their approach in its current condition. I believe we can beat them, but we can't come off like loony tunes, it only bolsters their negative media spin on us.

[maxx1000]

The joke is the obediently silent populace!

What you do not fight for, you do not deserve!

Does America deserve to be known as a country that has a government filled with war criminals that are allowed to act with impunity?

Americans are afflicted with total apathy!

You argue for THAT apathy. I argue for reclamation of our prestige and reputation and that requires ACTION!

[DVincentW]

Anybody that gives themselves a title with Master in it has deep feelings of inadquecy.

Your not my master.

Sigh, blah blah balh sigh.

[MasterNemesis102]

Sigh, all that does is damage the effort to end the war rather than stop it.

[DVincentW]

Oh BULLSHIT!

[DVincentW]

BULLSHIT!

[JasonMelancon]

How would it damage the effort? I acknowledge that this action was not done within the system, but it does help the legislators feel the pressure more acutely. Historically, this kind of thing is (part of) how changes are made. Feminism, anti-slavery, you name it.

[MasterNemesis102]

There are ways to protest in fashions that cause the public to respect your cause. Then there are ways to prostest that make you look crazy, and demean the cause you are protesting. This is one of those types of protests.

It's needlessly disruptive and also halts other processes that may come to help people. Congress does not listen to a view outspoken people like that, and people Bill O'Reilly, and Fox co. use it to demean and belittle the left.

[maxx1000]

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MasterNem, "There are ways to protest in fashions that cause the public to respect your cause."

I don't disagree with this viewpoint, I just also believe that continually be patient over, and over again is also indicative of looking pretty "crazy".

Isn't the repetition of behavior that leads to no results a form of insanity?

McLOL ;/

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[maxx1000]

Now, I do NOT advocate violence in ANY way.

However, it IS important to keep the ills of the Administration and their enablers in focus.

Hanging, banners in office buildings, memorial services in the Halls, echos of the dead, orange jumpsuits, etc.

Or should we go for an "Out of sight, out of mind," approach?

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[gogmagog666]

Disruption is a necessary part of dissent. Clearly the senate and congress have chosen not to listen to the majority of the people in this country regarding the ill advised war in Iraq and Afghanistan which is bankrupting our country. You are paying a hidden tax for the war every time you fill your gas tank with $3+ gas. This is all done by design of the IMF and the World bank. They want America to be brought down to third world standards..goodbye middle class..

[maxx1000]

The effort to end the war?

What effort to end this occupation has Congress and the Senate accomplished.

Please, reality IS here, join us!

[MasterNemesis102]

I don't believe I ever gave any credit to the Congress or Senate in their accomplishments. I merely critize their method of protest not their actual protest.

[maxx1000]

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MasterNem,

Did I say YOU did or didnt, give any credit to either the Congress or Senate?

I made a rhetorical statement about the situation we both see before us. YOU took it personally when it wasn't even about you.

I gotta say, though, that someone HAS to be the outspoken force in the mix of things. Someday, dissent WILL disappear from this land if we continue to degrade it's many forms.

They knew they risked being arrested in an act of Patriotic Dissent!

--- NO?

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[JasonMelancon]

I think they "look crazy" to the extent that they appear to be alone. Ask yourself: If there were 300 people doing this action instead of 2 or 3, would Fox be able to get as much propaganda mileage out of it? Regardless, I'd be interested to hear what kind of action you have in mind. Why not do it, film it, and post it as a video response? That would rock.

[FattKidd]

Awesome

[OneoftheImmortals]

Wouldn't it be nice if this made the news?

[RickySRT]

Music to my ears, thank you 1st amendment!