Brand NEW! 2011 - Air Crash Investigations - Dead Tired - Colgan Air Flight 3407 (FULL)

[tamacol]

Because of this crash now i need an ATP certificate to become a first officer in an airline. Requiring more experience isn't going to stop Pilots from making mistakes, because i make mistakes, just makes it harder for people to fulfill their dreams of becoming an airline pilot. Pilot Experience didn't bring this plane down, it was fatigue.

[drprk123]

@tamacol

Being in training phase your concern for more training is understandable. but you need to realize that this additional training is Number Needed to Prevent (NNP) the crash. It is easier to get more training than get back the lives lost & may be lost due to fatigue. I would prefer to fly w/ pilot w/ more training than lesser one. As more training means less odds of crash. At least one is expected to learn more on how to handle fatigue safely. Price for working in civil aviation.

[Khan12078]

women should not be able to fly planes because when you need to push on the break this requires lots of strength and men are physically stronger then women to pull back on the handle when things get sticky. Thats just my assessment

[jabbernaut52733]

oh wait its supposed to be continental lol fail.

[jabbernaut52733]

0:12 Continetal AL logo?

[MrPhattdirty]

geisha balls in shaw???

[munky142]

14:36 14:49 14:52 Mic in.

[MDCAngryWalnut]

I'm not being sexist or anything but the female pilot was a fucking idiot

[at1212b]

@MDCAngryWalnut

Tell her dad that lol.

For sure though, she was not professional, and came across whining like a little baby only caring about their next hair salon appointment.

[MDCAngryWalnut]

@MDCAngryWalnut Yeah exactly

[GimiGlider]

Rebecca Shortt?

One of my teacher's name is a Rebecca Stewart, and another Isabella shortt. Coincidence?

[DemocracyPerth]

@GimiGlider yes

[ThomasAUSTRALIA1]

What?? They let women fly planes? Have you seen a woman try to drive a car? They are pathetic on the road so why do we put them in planes?

[Trixtah]

@ThomasAUSTRALIA1 - dear moron, women have far fewer fatal crashes per kilometre driven, and have recently been proven to be better at parking. Stick it.

[ThomasAUSTRALIA1]

@Trixtah ....Oh...um...and your wonky statistics come from a reliable source or from the local C Club? Look sweetie, do the world a favour and just stay in the kitchen where you belong. You guys are better at baking cakes and making babies than driving cars and flying planes!!!

[MsBananasmel]

@ThomasAUSTRALIA1 You're a bit of a numpty aren't you ?

[jonathanokoro35]

The pilots did exactly what they should've done in a Tailplane stall but they mistook the subtle difference in a Main wing stall for the tailplane stall. Maybe they didn't notice that the stick was doing a stick shaker(used to determine Main wing stall) and not a stick pusher(used to determine Tailplane stall) which can be deadly as you see in the video.

[unoriginalsyn]

i really don't understand why anyone is even bringing up the whole man/women thing and even arguing and getting nasty over it! so what that the first officer was female, it really shouldn't be a big deal! no one is making a fuss about the captain being a man!!!!!

[Wjanut]

This is where not paying enough your working force leads, and it proves that pilots are proletarians and should develop class consciousness. The study led by the human factors engineers is quite shocking: basically it's how to exploit people safely! They just should lower the working time!

[ryan1111111555555555]

I'm not saying female pilots aren't as skillful as male pilots, however when something goes wrong they don't show the same composure as their male counter-parts, I'm not saying all female pilots don't have composure, but the majority don't.

[Trixtah]

@ryan1111111555555555 - did you not watch the video? The CAPTAIN made the primary error of doing the exact opposite of what he should have done to recover. Sure, the first officer didn't help the situation, but she was following on with the action HE initiated. HE lost his composure first!

[ryan1111111555555555]

@Trixtah Yes... but you should know that a First Officer is supposed to overlook all the Captains actions, They are supposed to speak out if the Captain does something wrong, they aren't just supposed to do everything the Captain says, have you never heard of Crew Resourse Managment? (CRM) What did she do when things started to go wrong? gave a girlish scream and continued to scream until she died, she became another passenger, Im saying there needs to be more test's of composure.

[Andwrightrocks]

i also have had really good female pilots

[OphiophagusHannah56]

How many pets are killed here?.....D

[corvettekid224]

I remeber reading about this crash in the newspaper..terrible coincedince

[HotZingers]

i live close to an airport and now i wanna move

[Illidanek]

I love how the black boxes are flown out. Wonder what would happen if a plane with the black boxes had a crash

[monkeyboy85]

I don't care how tired you are, how little you get paid etc etc... pulling back on the stick when an aircraft is near stall speed is unbelievable.

[Cytacon]

@monkeyboy85 Yep, it is one of the first things pilots learn.

[KidKlassic91]

this is kind of scary considering I want to become a pilot and I'm very likey to start my career the same way the co pilot did and the possibility of traveling long distances to ' go to work ' are likely. I hope positive changes are made to the industry by the time I become a pilot

[sha370z]

say you made $60,000 a year but avg housing cost $780,000 and it was like that from 1997 to 2009

dec 31 2006 they said home price was going to be up big time 10% more in 2007 the video is on here .but have a nice home is call the dream .and the bank took back millions of homes each year . let see how you do on the job whit no house

[silvereagle2061]

That woman did not belong in a cockpit.

[1965guitarboy]

@silvereagle2061 She doesnt have any controls,she is just knitting, she is doing that out of shot so you cant see.

You dont think that....? What? Seriously?

[kisha1682]

for you people that believe women are no good pilots stick your thumbs up your ass! I have flown with some really good female pilots and some really good men pilots. The captain is also responsible for this crash as well. Bottom line, no one on this plane wanted to die.

[Asiloracing]

@kisha1682 Mangina brown nose detected.

[MrFelipeDantas]

@kisha1682 I'm sick and tired of these "politically correct" speeching. You're probably a tinny-dick looking for a woman who likes your idiot comment. Please, take a 60" wood and stick up in your sorry ass, bastard.

[kisha1682]

@MrFelipeDantas I'm sorry your parents must have really hated you and tortured themselves by allowing you to even breathe!!!!! I don't have any male parts and I'm sure you don't either, being that you must be some lonely, pathetic person in need of desperate attention. if you ever do get a woman, check to make sure she isn't really a man, cause that's all you're ever going to get. SUCK ON THAT LOSER!

[Kw12345ff]

@kisha1682 Flight Simulator pilot.

[tubbythesnipe]

the reason this plane crashed was because the co pilot should have actually been in the kitchen, leaving that job to someone slightly more apt for the job

[CoDCopsProductions]

@tubbythesnipe Sorry, but that's just disrespectful. That is a very overused stereotype and you know it. Granted, she should, in an ideal world, have been more alert. They both should. Fact remains; they were tired -- the plane crashed. They simply should not have been flying, but your remark does not offer anything other than insult, which is that of someone who has nothing better to say. Thus, take your unwanted remarks elsewhere. Thanks.

[judyjudy51]

@CoDCopsProductions thankyou

[vanillabeanduck]

WOMAN IN THE COCKPIT?!

[MrDiscoparty123]

like your comment and good idea alpik1979

[RockinToke]

05:25 is she having an orgasm?

[RockinToke]

Boy, the reenactments are piss-poor.

[alkap555]

commercial pilots should get "go pills" (dexedrine or provigil) just like military pilots

[A320FC]

@alkap555: Or humane loops...

[nerole1]

The pilot had his eyes on the wrong cockpit.

[BlytheWorld1972]

@nerole1 omg lol hahaha 

[rossmeroe]

before you fly a plane get some FUCKING SLEEP!

[parcer4401]

he TOLD the ladie to put up the landing gear! why didn't she do that? that could of helped

[sha370z]

with out housing that a big problem . how well would you do on your job

with no house . The report card for housing in the USA get a F

old nasty home where $400,000 just nasty in 2005

[loh1110]

How was it that the firefighters summoned for rescue not know about the crash.. even though it was only a block away?

[waseem5420288]

i am amazed with Her pay its about (1333.4$) dollar per month..WTF is this...

[greendayforever2k9]

if you only pay 16k a year you're hardly going to get people who could fly a 747.

[khankislaoras]

is the copilot having orgasm??

[sasukeAMVcreator]

@khankislaoras It's a girl screaming. Wow, some people watch too much porn, seriously... -.-

[jrustystafford]

Bookmark 31:08

[parcer4401]

@jrustystafford that's a good idea! never thought of that

[cinesimonj]

"We don't seem to attract the level of applicant that we used to" ... "some regional airlines get into a bind, and ... hire the 1st people that meet the minimums"

Well, DUH!

You pay peanuts and treat pilots like bus drivers with no specific needs for the job, and you can't expect a safe industry.

This is the consequence of deregulation. Safety - both pilot & maintenance - will continue to be compromised with this extremist & fraudulent 'market driven' approach the right wing have ushered in.

[Gnosticman00]

16 K??? WHAT?



[Justathought81]

Thank you for these

[talha099]

i appreciate immensely when the families of victims stand up for improving the safety measures, having lost their loved ones.

[jaysfan19]

Seen it

[molarityboi]

THERE SHOULD BE RELIEVERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE SLEEPY..

[Joker1990HU]

its Sad,so Sad :(

[HammerOfTheSun]

Less then $16K a year? WTF? You'd make more money delivering pizzas.

[bluehazer]

@HammerOfTheSun A friend flies for one of the airlines. A riddle came: What's the difference between a XXX airline pilot and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.

[unoriginalsyn]

@HammerOfTheSun exactly! people should be talking about the crappy wages pilots get, not what sex they are!

[Sudsak]

@HammerOfTheSun If someone gave me $16k for a year and said now what do you want to do, pilot an airplane or deliver pizzas? I'd choose the airplane. They do it for the love of flying, it's not about the money.

[thethirdsayaman]

the speed warning shouldnt have been the red bars only but a perfectly audible sound like a beep or something...come on even flight simulators do that and this is from a 15 year old boy,i partially blame the plane.......things happen fast during the landing procedures so the pilots eyes couldve been on the checklists,approach manuals atc.If it made a sound....it would be almost impossible not to hear

[Kambanicity]

@thethirdsayaman I aggre. A sound , a voice that they should look attthe speed. Its not that hard

[Critic764]

@thethirdsayaman the control stick starts vibrating when the plane goes to slow...learn your facts before you post.

[mmnasir1000]

They should not let a male and female pilot to fly a plane. It is a big distraction.

[TheFadabey]

@mmnasir1000 completely true

[myrtle402420]

jesus christ alot of help that f/o did im all for girls flying but come on now!!!!!!

[XPlaneNut]

I hate the way the title of the episode gives half of the cause away!

[SophyBieber11]

Why do the orange flight recorders always come out in one piece?

[dabois85]

@SophyBieber11 Kinda the same way if you put a high quality small bank safe on a plane and crashed it into the ground at 200Mph it would still be closed and intact

[rayadomfdz]

I'm wondering, The pilot's reaction to PULL the nose and add power is the opposite reaction for a Stall, yes. But that's precisely the reaction for a Tailplane Stall... I don't think he was undertrained, but he got it wrong... in either case...

[stefco100]

why all actors have nokia 6300 phones

[TheCrowneJewel]

wasn't this also a cause of the crash!

the pilots had the autopilot on during the decent?

[DOMIINICANBABE]

Heeyyy its United Airlines CEO!! @ 39:30...

[hissa93]

@sweetperson143 was it hard to get pilot i heard al lot of people dont make it to a pilot

[sweetperson143]

i am also a pilot ,,this plane has been crashed by the mistake made by the crew,,,a critical mistake i cnt beleive that the could make such these mistakes,,,,,

[noncents]

I fucking love this show, syedN07 you da man =D

[lagartoteamFrance]

what the fuck lm a 2chef and i make more money than that co_pilot did.....what da fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[wxsty]

stupid pilot and first officer

[Mamba1998]

5:26 Orgasm noises

[amrutngrampurohit]

now passenger planes should have ejector seats

[jackthayer]

@amrutngrampurohit  or parachute bags owo

[jsb3287]

this is what happens when you put a woman behind the wheel!

[JaredzzC]

@jsb3287 go to hell ur so sexist. equality is the key.. we are unique in ourselves but no different from others. we r people, human beings.. so if ur gonna be sexist i suggest u get lost.

[jackthayer]

@jsb3287 oh shut up look at every other plane crashes and u will find a man was pilot in fact u know who caused 9/11? a man! stfu

[Redblood797]

Oh, Colgan Air operates as a connection flight for Continental

[Redblood797]

The tail art has the symbol of continental airlines yet they say it is colgan air?

[dvamateur]

I mean, people expect the tickets to be less and less expensive in the age of internet and cheap everything. Well, you get what you pay for.

[lagartoteamFrance]

@dvamateur u right about that, i rather pay for a expensive airline but with proper pilots, than pay cheap fare and flying with pilots like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jmitterii2]

@lagartoteamFrance Totally agree. It's why I'm doing ATC instead of flying. Make more money, not enough in it to fly. And no, I highly HIGHLY doubt I'd EVER make such a stupid mistake and all I have is a private pilot with a few 100 hours VFR only. Fact is, they are over worked, TIRED and pay is way below where it should be. My guess we'll have a pilot shortage in the states in 20 years as people just stop even bothering applying to regionals. Only way to get to majors unless flew airforce.

[krzdkanga]

@tealmarlin furthermore, regionals have shorter flights (reduces monotony), more day flying, you fly airports you're familiar with, less seasonal variation, more flexibility with vacation time, etc. Also, in the technology age, many regional pilots make money doing things like consulting, accounting, even law when they aren't on company time. I know a guy that makes ~75k flying a regional and another ~50k doing consulting work and spends 5+ nights/week at home. That's impossible at a major.

[cinesimonj]

@krzdkanga Your (likely fictitious))pal is a minority, and your suggestions as to what pilots could be doing as a second job is nothing but rose-tinted idealism.,

Reality is nothing at all like how you imagine things are.

As with defending most deregulated markets that have gone wrong: instead of looking at the facts you make stuff up to suit your case - instead of bothering to actually look at what is happening.

Most regional pilots make less than 30k flying max hours, btw. That's reality.

[krzdkanga]

@tealmarlin it isn't entirely true that flying the big jets is the only way to make money in the field. you can make close to six figures (in some cases even more) as a senior regional capt. but even if you are making 65k at a regional when you could be making 90k at a major, you have far more opportunities to fly regular out & backs or full circles. Many senior regional pilots may only spend 5-7 days away from home; even senior pilots at majors typically spend 19-23 days or so in a hotel

[krzdkanga]

@k2s3p that is partially true. pilots are paid based on hours flown. even a 22 year old new hire is going to get paid at least twice what the most senior bus drivers are making per hour. the problem is, it is really difficult to schedule a new hire to fly very much. there are strict limitation imposed by the companies and the government as to how often they can fly, the types of flights they can fly, the experience, certifications, and safety records of the captains with whom they fly, etc

[alpik1979]

I think it is time to start designing planes with seating located inside a giant orange flight recorder

[janeyrevanescence12]

@alpik1979 then the plane would be way too heavy to fly

[pubuman]

@alpik1979 Wouldn't really work ... its not the breaking up of the aircraft that kills the people, its the force of the impact (sudden stop) - with the FDR material this would be even worse ...

[measl]

@alpik1979 The FDR & CVRs are protecting objects that can withstand far more forces than a human body (which are essentially water, subject to fluid dynamic forces, unlike the static nature of the recording equipment, which can survive FAR higher force than a people).  Your idea wouldn't help - in fact it would add so much weight and volume that the plane would likely be unflyable, if even buildable at all. Nice try though.

[judyjudy51]

@alpik1979 lol

[danamatti]

I just want to ask what is pilot feeti ?? 

[alpik1979]

@danamatti it is fatigue

[k2s3p]

@tealmarlin hmm... I ssly dint knw that... Thanks for sharing the infro... You said you are in general aviation... Are you a pilot??

[k2s3p]

at one point he said wages of some pilots are <$16000/yr... less than a bus driver... Are you kidding me???

[tealmarlin]

@k2s3p Im in general aviation, yes it is true...

Pilots who fly these planes are just using the experience as a stepping stone. People dont understand that the only pilots who make good money are the ones that fly wide body jets.

[Kira200905]

@k2s3p - yeah , it's fucked up ain't it , eh?

[sankalp4499]

idiot pilots..



[aki31286]

The pilots wanted sleep, so they got what they wished....a long sleeeep!!!! sadly the passengers tooo!!!

[RDthe1]

Because the first officer was a lady she kept talking all the way!!!! ;)

[cattyomuppet]

@RDthe1 shut up

[TheMrMarilyn]

Ya know...ah could SWEAR that this is the same case that was Greg Fife's case!!Oh...hold on...no...that was a French plane...but WTF??...iss almost the same design as that French one...looks like...Ahm only half way through watching this as ahm typing...ah hope it turns out that iss nothing to do with ice on the wings and those 'boot' things!!Wonder why Greg has seemed to have juss disappeared from these prog's as well!!

[victoriaindigo]

@TheMrMarilyn That was Frozen in Flight.  I think Greg Feith is a consultant now, he retired from NTSB after solving some of the toughest cases.

[TheMrMarilyn]

@victoriaindigo Oh!!Ok...well thank you for letting meh know!!Ah relly DO miss his participation in these Aircrash clips etc...he was/IS such a distinctive guy...who relly DOES seem to know his 'stuff'!!All mah best to you...and thank you again for the info!!Love Em,x (Marilyn)

[syedN07]

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@ syedN07

[Scott38660]

I've heard stories about commercial planes flying with no pilot awake on them... Rules need to change and also for air traffic controllers.

[636roadrunner]

@Scott38660 The planes fly themselves.  The autopilot feature along with other computers have slowly designed the pilot out of the cockpit. The pilots these days are mainly there to make sure nothing goes wrong and talk with controllers. While the pilot isn't going to disappear due to the flying fears people have currently, they may slowly begin to be phased out. Although I do agree that there do need to be regulations that allow pilots more rest periods. Sleepy pilots make bad decisions.