Modern Jujitsu - Jujitsu Lock Flow

[OXCerberusX0]

jujitsu is so awesome.

[valgorlin]

I really love grappling of all sorts. Grappling is the most divers in application and stuff out there. grappling has helped me out of so many bad situations, even stufflike china and japanese jujitsu. poeple grab, you man.. .thats how fights happen, and usually there isnt a giant room to fight in so they can have all the space they want getting ahold of them wont be a problem. Grappling is truth. its a beatuiful lifestyle.

[haircutdeluxe]

On an iPad and can't link, sorry. Video is called "Timing and Sensitivity Drills", by poster RobMcntyre

[haircutdeluxe]

Analogue the spinning around thing has, but whatever, some dudes flip tires and do yoga. Whatever gets you strong. This is one of my all time favorite videos about drills, with the famous "dae chao" story. Great stuff, all his videos are awesome.

[haircutdeluxe]

Good, I'm glad that we were able to settle that. You are not implying that these are effective self defense techniques, but just that this is a conditioning drill. Good, looks like fun. I've always gotten great practical conditioning for bjj by doing things like that belt pull up from laying on the floor, which I'm sure has a name. It's more or less the identical muscle motion you use when you break someone down into your guard with a cross collar grip. I'm not quite sure what the practical ana

[akrocuba]

This is just a dril....like a boxer punching a speed bag. It helps in all aspects of your training. I do these type of drills also along with other types and it not only trains you how to move, it provides a good work out and hand-eye coordination.

[aalford111]

@akrocuba I'm glad to see that you get it! Regards!

[akrocuba]

@aalford111 ..I think allot of guys know nothing about actual training and staying sharp. Thanks and keep up the hard work! I've been traing in the martial arts for over 20 years...but still never acheived a black belt in any one system. I think now, at the age of 43, I'm going to stick it out and go for it!

Great vid...keep it up!!

[haircutdeluxe]

Personal self defense, and expect guys like me not to say anything about it. Why would I let someone get away with that? Who would benefit? Self defense, life and death, these aren't subjects to get sentimental and emotional about. I want to ACTUALLY be able to defend myself, not have good form against a compliant partner.

[haircutdeluxe]

But don't presume to introduce unrealistic techniques into the general conversation about persona

[haircutdeluxe]

I would suggest you do a search for "combatives clinch", and see what it looks like when people train to defend themselves against an actual attacker. I HOPE you are disheartened. I am happy that you might be beginning to understand your own motivations for training martial arts. Not everybody wants to train realisticly, it tends to be much more challenging to the ego, mind, and body.

[haircutdeluxe]

Any rule which banned wrist locks would also ban ankle locks. Small joint manipulation refers to fingers and toes. Turning of the wrist has been a part of the finish of many armbars since the beginning, but as far as a wristlock takedown like in the video, or the spinning around, total and complete fiction. We've got literally thousands of hour of tape of full contact fights now. We have proof.

I never said a thing about you or your teacher. I asked if you'd ever gotten any wristlocks on him.

[haircutdeluxe]

Because that is what a trained martial artist would do from that position and range, and from the position and range in this video. None of the wrist locks in this video would work on a high school wrestler, for instance. He would never give you his limb, his upper arms would be sucked into his side like a t-rex. He would pummel past your attack, and dominate you with a single collar tie, underhooks, and head position.

Wrist locks are legal under the Unified Rules of Combat.

[haircutdeluxe]

I can wrap my gi around my opponents neck, too. And thumb his throat from the guard, fingers inside pants cuffs, scrub his forehead on the mat, all that stuff. But that's not GOOD TECHNIQUE. It's not repeatable, not trainable, and usually will get you reversed or arm-barred against anyone with skill.I saw a fight on the street the other day, and I never thought "why isn't he getting a wristlock?", I thought "why isn't he getting double underhooks, bodylock, and head position?"

[haircutdeluxe]

This is a drill against a compliant opponent. One would only need to perform a drill against a compliant opponent if one did not know the technique, and was learning it. You clearly know the technique, so why not train with full resistance? THAT IS HOW ALL GRAPPLING TRAINING IS DONE, clinch, ground, submissions, takedowns,/gi/ nogi, all the same; except for fictionally effective grappling techniques such as wrist locks, trapping techniques, hitting the elbows, and other kung fu movie crap.

[haircutdeluxe]

Wristlocks are 100 percent legal under the Unified Rules of Combat. Yet they are never used. This is because wristlocks are a "fictionally effective" martial arts technique, meaning they only applicable in the realm of fantasy, and are not effective against an opponent with any amount of skill, strength, or size.

Your comment makes it very obvious that you have zero practical grappling experience, so it is strange to me that you would comment on the subject of practical "groundfighting".

[aalford111]

@haircutdeluxe Listen...Like I said, this is just a flow DRILL. Of course he's working with me to keep feeding me things. To explain why you Don't see wristlocks in the MMA: Small Joint manipulation is ILLEGAL per the UFC rules. Also, the fighters hands and wrists are taped to protect the hands and wrists of the fighter. I assure you, I do get wrist locks on my bjj friends when they are not being complacent. I get them because I practice these drills. My bjj instructor is a World Champion

[aalford111]

@aalford111 4th Degree black belt from Rio. Why would you claim to know about me?

[haircutdeluxe]

Or jkd thing, you know, arts that exist in the realm of fantasy and imagination. Can you explain to us why I've never seen a wristlock in mma, even though they are 100 percent legal?

[adamjowens]

@haircutdeluxe probably because the success rate of being able to grab someones arm and execute a wristlock in full on combat is very low. The wrist is also very delicate and you must be quite precise. So people rely on larger targets with more obvious breaking points such as the elbow while groundfighting. Im not 100% on the rules, but could could a wristlock be considered small joint manipulation, therefore illegal (as is a finger lock for example)?

[haircutdeluxe]

Bjj people don't talk about fucking insane bullshit like tactile sense. That's a rbsd

[haircutdeluxe]

Ever sparred boxing with a guy who faked like you just knocked him out, even though you didn't touch him? Who awarded you your purple? Ever get any of these locks on him?

[furiousmat]

damn.. wrist locks can work but this is complete bullshit. locks can work when they're pulled in a context of "stopping teh fight before it starts" you gotta surprise the guy. flowing like that is just stupid this is all choreographed. What happens when the opponent doesn'T respond the way your partner usually does? there is no way a man can react fast enough in real time to flow from one lock to another like that. no1 should buy that crap. there's no such thing as grabing one's punch like that.

[haircutdeluxe]

I suppose that this training is for "teh streetz", too, and not "for sport", right? Good grief. Why do you think your techniques work? Think about that for a sec. Do you think these techniques work because someone TOLD you they did, or because you have successfully performed them someone who was doing their damnedest to stop you?

[chozn11]

@haircutdeluxe LOL.. You know what I have to agree with you.. Guys get on you tube and show things that just make you stare in aw that people buy it.. There is a sucker born every sec .

[aalford111]

@haircutdeluxe Wow! You've been training 18 months?? You must know everything! I would love you to teach me!

[haircutdeluxe]

You will be subduing precisely no one. Multiple attackers vs. retarded co-operative dancing? I'm going to go with the multiple attackers on that one. Are you trying to tell me you're going to subdue one guy, and then fight off the other guys with one hand? WTF? You people are delusional.

[haircutdeluxe]

Ground. They are not effective for self defense.

[haircutdeluxe]

You going to use your techniques on ME, that's what I want to know. I mean, really. C'mon. I'm on the mat, what, 6-8 hours a week on average. I've been training for 18 months, and I compete at the intermediate level. And you are not getting this bullshit on me.

I have had hundreds, thousands of live rounds against TRAINED, FULLY RESISTING

opponents. And I have never been impeded, slowed down, or submitted by a wristlock of any kind. They have been attempted over and over, standing, and on the

[haircutdeluxe]

Locks are not used in Vale Tudo? They are legal, why are they not used?

I think I know. It's just a theory, but I don't think you could actually perform these locks on a fully resisting opponent. Combat is to fluid, too dynamic, and too violent to effectively use small joint locks without first dominating position. You don't train wrestling, how in the hell are you going to dominate position? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you guy's don't train alive groundfighting at ALL, right?

How are

[aalford111]

@haircutdeluxe . I have been a purple belt in BJJ longer than you've been training. I hold Multiple black belts in many combative styles. I agree with some of your comments. Problem is, you come off like a Jack Ass because you think you know me or what I do. Locks are not all what I do, they are a small portion of what I do. The video is of a drill designed to increase your tactile sensitivity and flow. That's it. Do you post Stupid comments on boxers shadow boxing? Get over yourself.

[haircutdeluxe]

I understand that you want these techniques to be effective in combat. They are not. The sooner you recognize that, the better off you will be.

I want to learn how to be victorious in combat. This is why I train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, wrestling, and boxing. I am unsure as to why you train as you do. It is clearly not for self defense, as your absurdly compliant training methods would preclude your art's effectiveness against a fully resisting opponent.

Have you ever wondered why these wrist l

[chozn11]

@haircutdeluxe

Now I disagree. You are training a sport. UFC, wrestling, BJJ etc all sports my friend with rules, based on weight class and have a ref. It has nothing to do with street combat. That's the problem with MMA people they are just as guilty as the guy in this video to think they have it all.You cannot lay on the ground and look for position where I live .

[haircutdeluxe]

This demonstration is ridiculous. You will never gain any martial skill from dancing ike a ballerina, leading your compliant partner around by the fingers. You sensitivity argument is bunk, combat sensitivity comes from a familiarity with the REALITY of combat, not the FANTASY of combat.

You will claim that you cannot train against resistance because you will injure someone, but this is not true. It is because your techniques are based purely in fantasy, and you cannot risk this being revealed.

[aalford111]

@haircutdeluxe . This is a DRILL. Seek first to understand. I practice with full resistance when I am working on the reality base material. Do you think that all training is done at full speed? Why would you pretend to know what I would claim

[haircutdeluxe]

What is it a drill FOR, exactly? Do you plan on actually performing any of the techniques in this drill against a fully resisting opponent? Good, god, I hope not, cause you're in for a big surprise.

Real opponents actually bend their wrist back against your pressure, seeing as how they aren't keen on dancing around the sidewalk with you. Also, real opponents are very likely to actually PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE with the free hand, instead of being docile and weak.

Your art only works against ukes.

[videoiorio]

Guy, these locks work really well; even on large strong drunks. If you have ever worked in a night club it is the best way to get someone out the door; they do not get knocked out; the club does not get sued; you keep your job; they can come next week and spend all there money on booz. i speak on experience not fantasy.

[BigRoma1]

@videoiorio

This is very true!

Been there done that.

At 5'6" I hae been able to control 6' drunks in a drunk tank with little to no damage to the individual.

[Hardysamnin]

@videoiorio - You know nothing. This keyboard warrior obviously knows everything of martial arts, that's why his name is "haircutdeluxe"

No but seriously, know it all cunts like him, plague every martial arts video I have ever seen on youtube. You can guarantee he knows fuck all about anything, so just laugh his bullshit off. Same with 95% of the negative comments you read.

[agentapathy]

@haircutdeluxe dont joke around, dude. this video is just an equivalent of karatedo's kata. grapplers can be very brutal. try sparring with one first, maybe it'll change your mind.

[aalford111]

@haircutdeluxe The school is located at 18 Del Carmine St, Wakefield MA. We offer 2 free weeks. Hope to see you

[TonyPstunts]

@haircutdeluxe Well then why not post a video of your version of "reality" style combat? Its comments like yours that really dishearten traditional martial artists like myself. You think that just because these guys aren't beating the shit out of each other that this is "Fantasy"?!?! These techniques have been around for CENTURIES and have been used both in practice and in combat! Its easy to sit there behind your screen and talk shit, but until YOU post a video of the skills you got, shut it.

[Hardysamnin]

@haircutdeluxe - You need to stick to cutting hair, and shut you fucking dumb mouth about shit you know fuck all about.

[pawnshopr]

it's looks kinda like aikido much but i don't know aikido so i can't know :/ either way it's wicked haha

[ImpactJujitsu]

I agree - its great to see some educated comments for once. Well done guys you are all a credit to Martial Arts and self defence. At the end of the day preparation always wins so does action over reaction. These drills are great for sensitivity training.

[aalford111]

@ImpactJujitsu Thanks for the kind comment.

[Kenlac92]

Lots of insight in these comments, its a very welcome change.

The thing with MMA is that the fighting mentality is already established amongst the two in the ring. On the street, its purely defense, not competition. You want to make it out as safely as you can rather than give a beat down. Im a beginning martial artist, only 17 years old. My journey is just beginning. Self-defense is my personal preference because im frankly not a fighter.

[lagook]

hey sorry can someone tell me something about small circle i do are more traditional form of jitz, is this mroe modern ? it has more chinese influence? like akido?

[hkdharmon]

Small circle was founded by Wally jay who studied Danzanryu jujitsu under Prof Okazaki. Danzanryu is a fairly traditional style but not as traditional as the heavy Japanese jujitsu styles. Jay added a bunch of stuff and it is really cool. I study danzanryu and would not mind studying SCJ.

[xCaptainHMorganx]

CasualSoul speaks a lot of truth. And, you have to keep in mind that SCJ is purely self-defense oriented, not MMA oriented. It's meant for street self-protection: recognize, surprise, stump, adapt to or stop the attack, take advantage-flow and transition into a winning position where you can get away. Training at full intensity will simply break bones and joints. Training like this is to gain instinctual behavior in transitional flow; learning how to react to put yourself in a positive position.

[aalford111]

Thanks xCaptain and CasualSoul for the comment. In all honestly, I love MMA and have some training in it. Although my personal focus is on the reality based aspects of martial arts, I feel I have gained a lot of knowledge and insight from MMA as well. I feel we should break down the steriotypes and learn from one another. I believe that you will see many MMA fighters and fans seeking out reality based martial arts in the future. To me is seems like a logical step. Take care guys!

[CasualSoul]

Yeah, very nice training exercise with a lot of great traditional jujutsu techniques. With regard to the lion8dragon's comments, I don't see how one could use those techniques at full speed and power without breaking your training partner's joints. I'm so tired of UFC fanatics comparing self-defence/combat jujutsu with what they see in the ring.

[dalquen]

@CasualSoul Theres a guy at work who is a third dan in jujitsu,i did my best to land a punch on him.i realy did my best but he did some weird arm locks and I had to give in.He didn't even try,he calmly and methodicaly owned me.If he actualy did try I would have had both arms broken in three places and my kneck would be snapped.When you see these people training slowly and calmly theres a good reason for it.

[CasualSoul]

@dalquen Totally.

[lion8dragon]

5/5 this must be the most realistic demonstration of standing joint locks I have ever seen.I really like the aliveness energy and motion that the "attacker" demonstrates, it is much better than just justing there and receiving your locks. I also liked the fact that once in a while some strikes were executed. I would like to see more from that with more intensity however. If you could succeed to apply those against strong full resisting opponents you might turn a lot of heads from the MMA world.