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  • human created divinity not otherwise.

  • gos is a lie, weak people cannot deal or accept that. evidence that it is an invention exist everywhere they are delusional liars who I careless about them but they yet refuse to ckeck on evidence lie and twist the truth, that is a harmful parasitic action, they careless about reason, as long as people think thet are truth, there ust be a study whre this human treacheries come from, why is it that there are some certain kinds of humans that prefer treachery rather than truth and integrity.

  • wikipedia : ERVs are sequences in the genome THOUGHT to be derived from ancient viral infections. Endogenous retroviruses MAY BE a variant of a retrovirus. THOUGHT and MAY BE suddenly become irrefutable evidence? New studies suggest that those sequence so called ERV actually aid during transcription. Even now biologists still unable to decipher so many segments in DNA. How can they be so sure about something they dont know much about? Genes only make up around 1.5% of the genome.

  • The genome is much stronger evidence than the fossil record but it's harder to understand & requires more than watching YT videos. No ID/Creationist has yet explained how an invisible spirit "created" physical entities nor why he did so poorly. Couldn't an intelligent designer prevent genetic mutations? Why build something inherently defective?

    It appears that the only alternative to a natural origin for life (in nature) is a supernatural one. Correct?

  • @smb12321

    "It appears that the only alternative to a natural origin for life (in nature) is a supernatural one. Correct?"

    By definition, yes. I mean, everything around us consists of nature and of natural processes, so I have a hard time imagining something magical, invisible other than nature should have made life somehow.

  • @anglicantian That was a red herring - LOL I too fail to understand who a being beyond time and space can physically manipulate matter & energy. Mark it up to lack of faith, I guess.

  • Let's say we have two coins, pennies for example. At first glance, these pennies appear virtually identical. They look the same, they both have the same image of Lincoln. But upon closer examination, we find that one was minted in 1984, the other 1985. Tell me, what are the odds that both noses will look the same? What about the hair or beard? Why do think it strange (or rare) that an ERV would attatch at the same location of an (almost) identical genome?

    Wish you were a bookie.

  • @n2h2o2

    I'd think it strange since these ERV's insert their DNA randomly into our genome, there may be more likely insertion places, but our genome is still huge. If you have a problem with the calculations you should probably contact the maker, cdk007.

  • @anglicantian I really don't understand your argument here.

    The chimp and human genome is almost virtually identical as this video clearly shows.

    I agree with you that it appears more likely (higher probability) that an ERV would insert in certain positions along the genome. It would be expected that two human genomes attacked by the same ERV would have the exact same attachment points. So why should we expect a diffrent outcome between a human and chimp genome attacked by the same ERV?

  • @anglicantian What I am saying is this; I have a problem with the assumption that this proves evolution. The assumption that a chimp a million years ago got infected then passd this genetic marker down to man is the hypothisis. However I would like to propose an alternative possibility. Let's say a given ERV is airborne and infects it's host (a chimp) in the lung tissue. Could this same virus also infect a human lung in the same manner? If so, wouldn't it be in the same location in the genome?

  • @anglicantian This video claims astronomical odds of an ERV being located in the same chromosme and gene location of both man and chimp. Here is the problem. Would we expect an airborne ERV to attach to the gene which controls eye color, or the gene which controls the size of our foot?

    No. Even though insertion is random, we would expect the location in the genome to be associated with the point of infection. The lung cells for example. This eliminates most other possibilities. Not rare.

  • @n2h2o2

    The problem for this is of course that only germ cell infection are inherited, that is, the ERV's that insert in the specific germ cells that go on to produce a child are the only ones that are inherited and found in the offspring's DNA.

  • @anglicantian First I want to thank you for an intelligent, respectful, discussion.

    Upon infection a retrovirus RNA is reverse transcribed into DNA and integrated into the host genome. Retroviruses normally infect the somatic cells of their host and are transmitted in an exogenous way. Occasionally, however, some retroviruses can also infect and integrate into the genome of germ cells, which may allow for their vertical inheritance or endogenization. This is the (ERV).

    (cotinued)

  • This is my understanding of an RV and an ERV.

    Now, my point is that if we have a modern chimp and a modern human and we infect each with the same RV in the same tissues, what would we expect to find in their genomes? Now if we infect the germ cells of each with the same ERV, what would we expect to see in the offspring genome of each? Would we not expect similar positions on the genomes such as chromosome 2?

    The literature suggests deterioration of the ERV markers after millions of years.

  • Great vid. Very succinct and logical. You're leaving the creationists no option but to bust Kent Hovind out of prison so he can post a response vid.

  • There will always be people who lack the emotional maturity (i.e. "the guts") to face the reality of mortality. Scroll through the responses to this vid, and you'll find some of these sorry, snot-nosed wimps making their pathetic posts--all written in the language of denial.

  • EVOLUTION IS OBVIOUS

  • @bouiglob

    Yes, we know dammit!

  • Odds of all those viruses ending up in the same place: 1 in 2x10^138

    Number of atoms in the entire universe: 8x10^79

  • oh yeah God put ERVs in us to test our faith in him.

  • This video was a funny joke HAHAHHAAAA

    There is not 1 piece of evidence suporting evolution..... But wait we all have somthing in Common we all believe in God.

  • There are 253.000 articles in the peer-reviewed literature supporting evolution. These include millions of independently verified facts, directly observing evolution, both in vitro and in the wild.

    "But wait we all have somthing in Common we all believe in God. "

    Which one? There are many thousands to choose from... I just happen to believe in one less than you.

  • Directly observing evolution

    HAHAHHHAAAHHAHHAHAAAAAHAHAA

    OH that was a good one.

    oh there is tons of articales in the evolution buddy system oh ya you call it peer reviewed.

    You believe in God you are just lying and or in denial

  • "Directly observing evolution

    HAHAHHHAAAHHAHHAHAAAAAHAHAA

    OH that was a good one."

    Why? It has been. You need examples?

    "You believe in God you are just lying and or in denial "

    Hah.. yeah.. which god, then?

  • Now now go run along and play with your GI Joe action figures. The adults are discussion scientific matters.

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  • Yes I will be laughing for all eternity while you are burning in hell. but there is still hope ask the Lord to become your Lord and Savior and ask forgivness of your sins.

  • "Yes I will be laughing for all eternity while you are burning in hell. but there is still hope ask the Lord to become your Lord and Savior and ask forgivness of your sins."

    -

    Sadism much?

  • @coolvideo28, you want me to explain you the origin of life? I can, with proofs, and you will get your ass a the floor, tell me if you want

  • I can explain the origin of lthe universe, to the earth formation and the human mind, so shut up, and tell me if you want to know, because the bible.... :S

  • Yeah, well said, but I wouldn't expect a reply. Or any logically coherent sentence for that matter.

  • @bengacris

    You believe in God you purposfully fall into denial and then puropsfully force yourself into believing this evolution nonsense and then somehow you think that I want to buy into this garbage like your trying to. I think not I know the Truth hurts hu? God is waiting with open arms you can either exept or reject him but the consiquences will be eternal.

  • @coolvideo28

    do u understand what evidence means u silly fool?..did u watch the video?..do u understand how ERV's were found in the exact areas of human chromosomes as chimp chromosomes?..and not just once, but 98,000 times. and most of the 98,000 locations we found an ERV within our genome, it matched the exact location within a chimps genome..this is irrefutable proof that we inherited ERV's from chimps thru evolution. pull your deluded head out of your ass and get with it!

  • This is funny ok for anyone that can see go to a zoo look at the hundreds of diferences between you and a Chimp now if are genes are tat close yet we are sooooo diferent why do evolutionists try to say we have evolved from them ? this only proves God made everything he can make it however he wants he can even make most things have similar dna yet be Completly diferent.

    He goes on to say that he is going to assume evolution is not true then he just continues ranting on it being right.

  • Humans and chimps are both classified as apes.

    No, we did not "evolve from chimps". We share a common ancestor with them. Please, go brush up on some basic biology.

    "only proves God made everything he can make it however he wants"

    Yeah... gods like to deceive us and make it look AS IF evolution is true to "test us". Please.

    Nope, cdk007 is saying that these results only make sense in the light of evolution. Remember, science doesn't use the argument "a god did it somehow".

  • unfortunatly God made humans and cals us man.

    Chimps are monkeys animals were are completly diferent go to a zoo and look at the hundreds of diferences

    Youe right evolution believes 0+0= 1

    nothing pluus nothing made everything its funny

  • "unfortunatly God made humans"

    Show me articles with evidence of this. How did it happen?

    "Chimps are monkeys animals were are completly diferent go to a zoo and look at the hundreds of diferences"

    Of course. We've diverged. Humans are also different from dogs, but we're all animals nonetheless. Show me significant biochemical differences.

    "nothing pluus nothing made everything its funny"

    Nothing + nothing? In which articles did you read this? Or are you simply making things up.

  • @anglicantian Its so funny to see you evolutionists throw tempurtantrums because You Cant Handle The Truth. Yes everything was made by the same Creator/Designor God no crap it has stuff in common a banana has a closer amount of Chromesomes to us then a Chimp so what does that prove we were a banana first then a Chimp hahahahaa. We are Humans people not animals even if you might act like one like in your last comment you want the Truth read the Bible Gods living word & check out my Fav videos

  • @coolvideo28

    "a banana has a closer amount of Chromesomes to us then a Chimp"

    Please provide a source.

    "we were a banana first then a Chimp"

    Nope, since human chromosome 2 confirms that 2 chromosomes in our common ancestor were fused into this chromosome, as evidenced by the vestigial centromere and inactive telomeres on our chromosome 2. Thanks, with that comment you actually showed how evolution makes predictions that conform to reality - unlike creationism.

  • @anglicantian HAHAHAAA that is hilarious you have no problem believing we use to be a banana but you wont believe that we had a Creator wow your Faith is way Greater then mine thats for sure thanks for the laugh. You just proved how much Faith in lies you need to pretend to believe in to believe in evolution. I say lies because everyone believes in God but many are running from him purposfuly in denial

  • @coolvideo28

    "HAHAHAAA that is hilarious you have no problem believing we use to be a banana"

    I never said that. Read my comment again. Bananas have 3 chromosomes, we have 46. Is that hard to understand?

  • @anglicantian just read it again it says

    "we were a banana first then a Chimp"

  • @coolvideo28

    The "common designer" argument fails, because it ignores the fact that not all animals share common design. The genetic differences between animals conform to the phylogenetic evolutionary tree of life, as cross-confirmed by microbiology, phylogeny and genetics. Genetics is one of the strongest pillars supporting evolutionary biology.

    Please, if you have any valid point, reply.

  • @anglicantian You couldnt possibly be farther then the Truth un the Bible God makes it very clear that he made "kinds" so all those dogs are 1 "kind" all those horses zebras etc all 1 "kind" Also If Darwin would have known genetics he would have never wrote the fairytale on evolution because he would have realized those finchs were just genetic changes with the inforation that was already in them when God put it in there nothing evolved at all. The fossil record proves evolution fails

  • @coolvideo28

    Please provide a coherent, taxonomic definition of "kind".

    "those finchs were just genetic changes with the inforation that was already in them when God put it in"

    Of course evolution works by genetic change. New "Information" is formed by gene duplication and mutation.

    "The fossil record proves evolution fails"

    How so?

    How does "God" create something? Do you have a mechanism? Real science does.

  • @anglicantian A Kind is what God Created including everything inside there all the info all the Changes built in there & everything they can become due 2 that fact. or micro evolution which is not evolution at all exept by old dictionary definition B4 evolution Science took over the word. Macro evolution is a Scam it is immpossible for new info to just show up magicaly like evolution believes. God Speaks things into existence hes God. may take Faith 2 believe but not as much faith as evolution

  • @coolvideo28

    "it is immpossible for new info to just show up magicaly like evolution believes"

    Nope. Gene duplication with a following alteration of the new gene-variant produces what you call "new info". Otherwise you'll have to define "info". This has been observed many times.

    "Macroevolution" is what biologists call speciation. This has also been observed numerous times.

    In biology we have Domain, Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species. Where does "kind" belong in?

  • @anglicantian That is called a mutation and 99.9999999999 percent of the time mutations cause problems and kill not fix or better the host. Micro evolution is not evolution in the way scientists use it is just Genetics using the information/genes etc that God originaly put in there.

    Macroevolution is a Scam it is impossible it requires new information but Please show me proof of macro evolution show me somthing scientists have observed starting from 1 species becoming a new Species

  • @coolvideo28

    "That is called a mutation"

    A gene duplication is NOT a mutation. Look it up.

    "Macroevolution is a Scam it is impossible it requires new information"

    The evolution of "new info" happens frequently and has been observed many times. It happens via gene duplication or genome duplication and following alteration. 13% of the proteins (a LOT of "new info") in the Yeast genome are the result of a genome duplication. Look it up, read, study, I can recommend "Biochemistry" by L. Stryer.

  • @coolvideo28

    Furthermore, "new information" is not required for speciation. It is merely the cumulative effect of changes over time in two geographically isolated population of the same species.

    "1 species becoming a new Species"

    One species does not become another species, rather populations of the same species evolve in different directions, ensuring branching from the common ancestor. Look up "allopatric speciation". At least try to understand the mechanism before shouting out against it.

  • @anglicantian without information nothing new can be built our bodys are like a infinite amount of supercomputers they require information dna to make stuff fix stuff etc without it they do nothing so like I said macroevolution is impossible

  • @coolvideo28

    I've just shown you how you can learn about the mechanisms behind the evolution formation of information. I've also just shown you 3 examples of the "impossible" macroevolution, also known as speciation. I should've known that you would now try to redefine macroevolution. I take this as a sign of victory. Please either accept your defeat or find some new arguments.

  • @anglicantian No you didnt I looked them up and they have nothing to do with macroevolution not 1 of them although in some evolution articales they did try to take huge leaps of faith and claim so but the prof is in the pudding and the evidence proves no example of macroeveolution at all. I can show you a dog and call it a whale if you want but that doesnt make it a Whale

  • You do understand that science is not all about observing? This video you're commenting on contains strong genetic evidence that humans share a common ancestor with the other great apes. It's easy to tell you either didn't watch or understood it. Human chromosome 2 is another example of irrefutable evidence of the fact that humans are primates.

    "Whale" is NOT a species, it's a biological order containing dolphins, blue whales, killer whales and many others. Do you understand what a species is?

  • @anglicantian this isnt evidence at all its a Scam if you go look up what they actualy did to come to the conclusions they did you will realize it is a scam. If I took random letters in 2 different linesgoing on for a million milles, then searched hard enough I would find a small section that the letters matched up but to say that they are the same because a small section is the same is ignorance at its best and that is exactlky what they did it is a Scam nothing more nothing less

  • @coolvideo28

    I've shown you examples of speciations, but you apparently think that a species are something else entirely. The evolution of an entire biological order would take many million years, if it would ever happen again.

    Please tell me, what do you think of the ERV evidence and the human chromosome 2? Please go educate yourself on speciation. This is a bit like discussing chemistry with someone who doesn't understand atomic theory.

    What is your explanation for the nested hierarchy?

  • @anglicantian You havent showed me anything but look at the bright side you evolutionists are horible at lying lol. No its like explaining multiplication to somone who doesnt even know there is numbers. I bring you the Truth but you pretend you dont believe ion God and you pretend you believe in this Scam called evolution its truly sad your just waisting your life away

  • @coolvideo28

    Sigh, looks like I have to repeat myself. I've shown you 3 speciations. Please explain why they are not. Ok, here I go again:

    Please tell me, what do you think of the ERV evidence and the human chromosome 2

    What is your explanation for the nested hierarchy?

    Do you understand what a species is?

    What do you think of mitochondrial dating?

    "I bring you the Truth"

    You have brought nothing but a horrible argument from ignornance. Answer these questions.

  • @anglicantian Go look at the fossil record there R no Transitional fossils So darwins nested hierarchy is Nonsense. No evidence for ERV evidence & the human chromosome 2 that is proof for evolution it was a Scam anyone can take anything & pick & choose w/ they want to go & find an area that is similar in anything why because we all have a common Creator/Desighner God. As far as all evolution dating goes I will send you a message it breaks it down to very basics so anyone can understand

  • @coolvideo28

    I will repeat my questions for the last time. Answer them, and them only - do NOT keep spamming with illiterate nonsense, or I will block you. 1st warning.

    Please tell me, what do you think of the ERV evidence and the human chromosome 2

    What is your explanation for the nested hierarchy?

    Do you understand what a species is?

    What do you think of mitochondrial dating?

  • @coolvideo28

    "No evidence for ERV evidence"

    Man, do you even understand what endogenous retroviruses are? Did you even watch the video

    "human chromosome 2"

    Yep, human chromosome 2 contains a double deactivated telomere in the middle, a clear sign that this chromosome was fused on the human lineage after our divergence from the other great apes. Once more, how would you explain this? Do you even understand what a telomere is?

  • @coolvideo28 dude, go learn how to read and write before you get into matters that little kiddies shouldn't care about

  • @anglicantian God made kinds such as 1 kind would be hourses there are lots of them but there all the same kind. Man makes classifications which mean Nothing at all then evolution tries to take this man made classifications to try to prove there point its nonsense. I can start making my own classifications then try to prove somhing wrong about what you believe but what would that mean nothing classifications mean nothing God Created "kinds" read Genesis in the Bible Gods living word the Truth

  • @coolvideo28

    Your own classification? Sure, so WHAT IS IT? What is this "Kind". You still haven't answered. Answer me that question, or I will eventually block you.

  • @anglicantian HAHAHAHAAA You think threatining to block me means anything to me.

  • @coolvideo28

    I really don't care whether it means something to you, but I can't tolerate you keep spamming this channel. You don't answer any questions, but keep ejaculating your nonsensical comments without any science references.

  • @coolvideo28

    And as for speciations, here are a few

    "Single-gene speciation by left–right reversal"

    (Speciation in the Euhadra snail by ONE point mutation.)

    "Multiple speciation events in an arthropod with divergent evolution in sexual morphology."

    "Speciation through sensory drive in cichlid fish."

    So, there you go.

  • @anglicantian I looked it up you either falied to read my last statment or failed to present any real evidence (No offence)

  • Chihuahua also has hundreds of differences from a Great Dane, but they are still dogs.

    Humans and Chimps may also have differences but we are still apes.

    If you had brain you would've known that.

  • Wow you realy need to get out of the house go to a zoo look at a Chimp there are hundreds of diferentses we are humans they are animals you need to get your eyes checked

  • "Wow you realy need to get out of the house go to a zoo look at a Chimp there are hundreds of diferentses we are humans they are animals you need to get your eyes checked"

    Yeah and humans are animals. You need to get your brain checked.

    You know, the more I read this kid's post the more I think he's a fake. Even creationists are THAT fucking stupid.

  • no look at him, he's very angry to know that his god is pure human mind shit

  • @coolvideo28 How about 0+0 = +3 -3? OMG I'M GOD! :O

  • LMAO Sorry to break it to you kid, but the creationist's "God" doesn't exist. Neither does Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.

    Don't worry you'll grow out of it once you hit puberty.

  • You believe in God your not fooling me or you so you my as well stop lying about it and yes being in denial is still lying to yourself and me

  • Nice job in waisting 10min on the odds of ERV resembling in chimps&man.

    What you failed to point out his how the virus was inserted into the common ancestor in the first place without reproduction?

    There goes that theory.

  • "What you failed to point out his how the virus was inserted into the common ancestor in the first place without reproduction?"

    It was inserted into a germ cell. Hence, all the offspring of the originally infected individual will inherit this ERV sequence.

    "There goes that theory."

    Oh, so now 247.000 peer-reviewed articles, The chromosomal fusion, the evolutionary dead-end of Homo neanderthalensis and mitochondrial dating isn't good enough. Arguments from ignorance are not compelling.

  • angilicantian

    "It was inserted into the gem cell"

    So than how was the virus inserted into the gem cell?????

    Evolution we have a problem.

  • I don't mean to sound patronizing, but I had to read that twice - it sounded that ignorant.

    You've ever had the flu? That's when vira infect your cells, normally those in your respiratory passages. These vira inject their RNA into your cells to produce proteins, which synthesize more vira.

    The ERV mentioned here work in the same way, only they inject RNA which is then translated to DNA and incorporated into the genome of the cell. This is not high-level biology. Any more questions?

  • You assume that the virus was inserted into the common ancestor,that is ignorant in itself.

    You assume that the virus from the common ancestor is not lethal not detriment to its offspring?again ignoranance.

    What are the ODDS of that since,you like using statistics to prove that man&chimps are so much alike?

    Why do chimps no longer evolve into a man,or something rather than a chimp like anymore,since they resemble man so much?

    I bet your answers will be based on ignorance.

  • "You assume the virus was inserted into the common ancestor"

    It is THERE. They can be recognized by the unique proteins this DNA codes for. By dying the human genome, biologists can SEE this happening with their own eyes when an ERV infects a cell.

    "You assume that the virus from the common ancestor is not lethal"

    WE have these ERV in our genomes. ALL of us. 98000 of them. The human genome has been sequenced.

    Here, go educate yourself further:

    retrovirology. com/content/3/1/67

  • "Why do chimps no longer evolve into a man,or something rather than a chimp like anymore,since they resemble man so much?"

    Because evolution only occurs in response to change in environment. In short, Homo Sapiens sacrificed a strong bite for a bigger brain. This was how we succeeded in surviving the last Ice age, the Weichsel.

    The species Homo Neanderthalensis couldn't cope with the cold and went extinct.

    You could find ALL this in the peer-reviewed literature. Do your own research.

  • I can hardly understand what this kid is writing. Why do all creationists show sign of mental retardation?

  • Your younger then me yet you call me a kid go read the Bible and you can get a real education. you are brainwashed by school

  • "Your younger then me yet you call me a kid go read the Bible and you can get a real education. you are brainwashed by school "

    HAHAHAHA The Bible is real Education.

    That's gotta be joke of the century.

    The insides of my toilet after I take a shit has more educational value than a fairy tale book written by primitive 4000 year old herdsmen.

  • @coolvideo28

    "go read the Bible and you can get a real education" - everyone is laughing at you sooo much right now XD

  • "So than how was the virus inserted into the gem cell?????"

    -

    Have you never had a virus inside your body?

    Has that virus never spread inside your body, causing an infection?

    You know how he spreads? An ERV. Inserted in the DNA, he resembles a DNA molecule (part of it) but is not as there are significant differences, and then keeps copying itself.

    It has a chance of being vestigially carried to the organism's offspring. Once it is, it will be carried down to every one of their offspring.

  • "Don't be a fool.. believe in god"

    spoken like the king of fools as he paraded naked down the city streets claiming only the wisest of men could see his clothes.

  • Wanna go in on some lottery tickets?

    Excellent vid! 5's & faved! :-)

  • Great video. Unfortunately you could make all the points down to showing microorganisms evolve into large creatures before everyone's eyes, and the cretards would still deny it.

    5/5

  • uhhh... you're right, it's not chance, because god made it happen that way...

    great video

  • Yeah, you're right, god put the ERV's there because we are sinners, and deserve it, and also to test our faith. lulz

  • ERV= one of the worst forms of post hoc fallacy. Bc we see this; this must have happened. But keep searching maybe some actual evidence will show up somday!:)

  • You're right of course, but common ancestry with chimpanzees IS the only reasonable explanation for this, unless you wanna go into the whole "invisible magic man done it" thing.

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