Government having real-time access to individual bank accounts?That is pure socialist dictatorship.It was exactly like this in communist Romania! This is the future the liberals are preparing for America?
if one really knows how to reference or research what he talks about then you and many others would know... its obvious you and many others do not... no need for me to take the time to school.. learn on your own.. thanks for the videos bill they are very much appreciated..
Billy boy here thinks there's an invisible man living in the sky that controls everything ! It's a fact, I am not making this crazy shit up, he actually believes that ! Knowing that can you really take anything this maniac says seriously ?!?!
@MonsterMunchAreAce ...And your voice of reason? Since you know everything about "Obama Care" what are on pages 58-59? Since you know everything about the U.S. Congress why doesn't the congress have to pay into "Obama Care"! You run your mouth let's see if you know the answers... You talk the talk but can you walk the walk? If not stick to your own countries politics as it's going up in flames...
@lonedove1981 I know enough about The Health Care Bill to know that what Bill is saying here is bull shit and even Judge Kithil says it is bull shit. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
again thk you bill for the motivation and direction sir. my hats off to ya..if there is anything i can do to help you please feel free to contact me. ill visit your site and leave you a message. i have done so in the past several months and have not got a single response from you.
@TheShadetreeswrpp Take a couple of letters out of your name and you are left with sheep. If you believe one word that Bill spews, that is all that you are. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
Hey Bill In my response video (/watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ) that you are too much a coward to allow, I speculate that your "Secret Service Secrets" video came from a viral email, but I couldn't find attribution for your stories after 2005, guess what, today I found it. Fact Check dot org, under the title "Secret Service Tattle Tales." Now that I've proven that 2 of your videos are nothing more than viral emails, if I keep checking are all of your videos nothing more than that?
@Beachbug1vw You should check your facts, too. No republican or democrat voted for the bill that Judge Kithil wrote about. The final version of the bill wasn't written until months after that letter was written. Even Judge Kithil is trying to distance himself from that viral email. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
@brianhar100 Yeah look at how well his prayer day went a couple of weeks ago, next day the stock market crashed. Praying sure did a lot of good didn't it?
IMPEACH! CONVICT! IMPRISON! Guantanamo is missing the presidential imposter that should be chained to the floor there. HELP THE IMPOSTER GET TO HIS RIGHTFUL HOME at Guantanamo! Support the IMMEDIATE impeachement and imprisonment of Ohbummah! He's been away from "home" for too long.
@RDJim Bill's source is a viral email that has been floating around since 2009, long before the final draft was voted on, The Washington Post pointed out the errors in it on Jan. 21, 2011. /watch?v=oOJK6caKIWI Sorry about the quality of my video, but there is a link to the article in the description box.
@jymstone3 Quite the comment comming from someone who has never even attempted to make a video. Since reading seems to be too much a strain on your brain, try this video. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
@jymstone3 By the way , that video never even included any audio. But, I do now have a video up that does include audio, if you need translation for any word over 2 syllsables, just let me know. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
of the front runners of the republicans candidates swing voters won't vote for them apart from Romney who is fairly normal but has the disadvantage of being a Mormon. Come up with a proper candidate who is not a RWNJ and the republicans have a chance otherwise its Obama for another four more years.
Bill you moron, your source is a viral email that is woefully out of date, and most of Kithil's conclusions were based on misunderstandings of obtuse lawer speak, and since the letter was written in 2009, it does not even address the far more conservative version that was finally passed. This was reported on 1/21/11 by the Washington Post. You can find it at snopes dot com also.
Obama is a liar from hell and I, can't wait to see our Nation put him out. He and his cronies have sold out our country. Now with the health bill that they have run down our throats, the Death panels will start and you can kiss the older generation bye. I hope people continue to open their eyes and see what is going on.
I think I'm in love. Thank you Wild Bill for stating the obvious so clearly...no punches pulled....no BS....political correctness aside. You are my hero!
@GingerAtheist Obama doesn't give a shit about you. He wants your vote so he can ruin our country some more in the next term. You're retarded. Obamacare hasn't even started yet.
@Nebraska2155 Actually there are parts of the plan that have been enacted, ex the fact that my sister can still get health insurance from my father's plan even though she is a part time student. I don't literally think that Obama gives a shit either but I also don't think some people know how language operates. Like the phrase Freedom Fries isn't against the french but equates the french with freedom. Can you name an action that Obama has taken as president that has ruined the US fiscally?
@GingerAtheist Obamacare and the "stimulus bill". Wasting our money when he should be cutting the budget, not spending more. We're over 14 trillion dollars in debt. He hasn't' done a thing to help cut back.
@Nebraska2155 The stimulus bill was fiscally sound, it saved are economy from crashing entirely. The reason we needed the stimulus was because private industry was uncertain which prevents employment from increasing. The health care bill was planned to be at least deficit neutral and at most deficit reducing by $210 billion. These are findings by the CBO, Congressional budget Office. The risk pools that the health insurance industry uses are too small and actually need to be larger for benefit.
@GingerAtheist All the stimulus bill did was funnel money we didn't have into public jobs. If it helped the private sector, it helped it very little. There were nearly no jobs created from the stimulus bill in the private sector.
The health care bill is going to be gone in 2013 anyways. Probably even before then by the way things are looking.
The democratic party did not pass a budget while the had control of both houses of congress for 2 years. That's ridiculous.
@Nebraska2155 What ever one thinks of the stimulus bill, whether or not it worked, is irrelevant. The jobs it funded were both private and public. This bill was necessary to keep our economy solvent. In order to pay a person a wage there needs some type of action, who ever owns that labor does not matter. The healthcare bill will probably stay, even if we have a (R) president. Public opinion is clear, most people actually like the effects of the bill. Everything else said is you posturing.
@GingerAtheist Out of most polls I've seen, a majority do not like the current bill.
The healthcare bill will be repealed. It is being declared unconstitutional by a judge currently, I believe, because it is. You can't make it a law for someone to buy something. I don't see why we can justify giving people free stuff. All I have to say is Ron Paul needs to be our president. Then America can actually be what it was meant to be. Honestly, I'd go with anyone except Obama at this point. :\
@Nebraska2155 Mitt Romney is your best bet. Also the supreme court is going to hear the case because it has been said by multiple judges that this bill is either constitutional or not. I would say you can compel a populace to invest in a product I can cite four examples; wars, education, car insurance, and roads. And if you want a libertarians view of Ron Paul's economic policy watch this- /watch?v=vXZvewWguf0
@GingerAtheist I'd rather have Ron Paul. He's probably the only politician who has not flip-flopped for over 40 years.
That guy in the video has nothing to back his findings up with. :\ Go to Ron Paul's website, or find an interview with him on his economic policies. They make sense. Gold has value no matter when you have it. You can't "print" gold. Ever since our money was taken off the gold standard, the economy has gone to shit.
@Nebraska2155 I don't argue against Ron Paul, I ignore him. Did you watch the video? His claims are ones of logic not of evidence. You have a very simple view of economic history, the pinnacle of an unstable economy was during the 1800s.
@GingerAtheist Yes, during the 1800's we had a civil war going on. That is what brought our economy to its knees. After the civil war, the economy was put back on the gold standard which helped the economy get back on its feet.
@Nebraska2155 No wrong the Civil War was only one decade and the gold standard wasn't killed until 1933 when our economy was trying to be rebuilt by FDR, Republican. Nixon and FDR are the republicans to emulate not Reagan and Ron Paul. Both Reagan and Paul are dangerous ideologues that don't know the value of pragmatism. Obama can do one thing that is at the heart of any fiscally sound policy, pragmatism. But he gives a dash to much to ideologues.
@GingerAtheist LOL. Did you just say FDR was a Republican.... I'm going to stop this argument based on the fact that you think FDR is Republican. Obviously you don't know the difference between the two parties.
@Nebraska2155 Sorry about that I miss typed and miss thought. I was going for Teddy Roosevelt who was a republican. That was a major mess. But it was comparable to your misquote of the Civil War as a century long. Also the gold standard bullshit. No ones perfect, I suck at names.
@GingerAtheist You obviously do not stand on a moral base of any kind. As an individual who respects others' rights to believe or not believe what ever they want (don't tread on me), you and (seemingly) your hero, Barack Hussein Obama, make up your rules as you go along. Since man is now YOUR God, anyone who disagrees with you and tries to hold to an anchor is called "POSTURING". I say UP FRONT: BULLSHIT!
@jymstone3 I am on an equal moral basis with everyone else, represented by the first amendment. If I do something wrong I will be called out for it. If I see someone else do wrong I will call them out on it. Freedom of speech guarantees that we all can be offended equally. Also Obama is not my hero, he is someone I would give due deference to because of his fiscal conservatism. Also I have no god, I am an individual and control my own actions. Did you know one could be good without god.
@GingerAtheist Yep, you're right about Keynsianism sucking. But to say that is to assume that since Bush wasn't a conservative and that he cowtowed to the Keysian collectivists, that you can blame all our problems on HIM??? So I guess the Obamanistas are the champions of free enterprise? I DONT think so... In case you think I'm a lightweight butterfly... I served on the EXCOM of the Florida Libertarian Party in the early '80s. BTW, I cut my teeth on Ayn Rand... You're not BSing me
@jymstone3 Well no certain Keynesian actions are beneficial, the tax cut form of Keynesian is only beneficial if one goes from a 90% to a 50% tax rate. Keynesian economics isn't collectivist in nature it is regulatory. I support a more socialist agenda so I am disappointed at Obama to that extent. As for the capitalist policies I support he has been consistent with. Any strict ideological policy is weak, this is why I support Pragmatism. What do you mean by "cutting your teeth"?
@GingerAtheist What do you think I mean by "cutting my teeth"? You're a native English speaker, right? FYI: The expression is somewhat literal, for the implication is that by the time a person has got his permanent set of canine teeth, has reached the age of twelve or fourteen, he has passed out of babyhood and has reached years of discretion. This working of the saying appears to have originated in the United States, first recorded in 1870 by the essayist, Ralph Waldo Emerson
@GingerAtheist Pragmatist, huh? I knew it. Make up your rules as you go. Pure action without that pesky thing called Objectivism... Alinsky... Gramsci... a couple of the more nefarious Pragmatists. Oops I almost forgot... JOHN DEWEY. Oh, yeah, George Soros the infamous Fabian Socialist who's trying to wipe out freedom in the world. Go back to college, chickie pooh! You need an education.
@GingerAtheist So you're a proponent of a mixed economy... Keynesianism WILL NEVER work unless via a brutish collectivist ruling dictator or oligarchy, for the sole purpose of ENFORCEMENT. DUH! FYI Capitalism is not the same as FREE ENTERPRISE. Our current form of "Crony Capitalism" is mirrored in Ayn Rand's Magnum Opus: ATLAS SHRUGGED Thanks but no thanks for your ideas on a mixed economy, et cetera. We've tried that and it SUCKS! Never has worked, so what do we do? Keep trying.
@GingerAtheist Abolish the INCOME TAX! Stop feeding the ravenous crocodilian leviathan state. FAIR TAX RULES! POWER TO THE PEOPLE, (NOT the friggin' state).
@jymstone3 This leviathan you speak of isn't the state. There are necessary evils, one has to grow up in order to reconcile with the establishment. The properties of the state should be our choosing, not a foreign limb to decapitate. Money=power/speech. One needs to make sure one man does not have power over another. The state is a part of the people, ideally. It just needs reforming not abolishing. Please don't be reactionary it's unhelpful, childish, and unhealthy.
@GingerAtheist You talk about growing up... Wow, that's great. You are vomiting out a bunch of pompous junk that I chop to bits and then you vomit out more nonsense. Your quote, "The state is a part of the people, ideally. It just needs reforming not abolishing." I am not an Idealist, you are. When did I suggest anarchy? We are supposed to be a constitutional (modifier), democratic (modifier), Republic (noun). You are talking like we live in a Democracy. You're living in a fantasy
@jymstone3 Quote where I am pompous and I will renounce the pomp. These are ideas that are compatible with our society not away from reality. The concept of a democracy is closer to describing the US situation. Also that statement is not idealist, I think it is possible to change our government through policy but never said it would be easy. The time frame is what makes concepts seem idealist.
@jymstone3 No you can critique my work, if I think you made a good point I will concede it. Liberal is the skeptic of policy, arguments rise or fall on there own merit. I can adapt to reality not make up my own, pompous would be saying one was less fallible which I don't.
@jymstone3 Lastly Ayn Rand's 'philosophy' is something I shy away from because of certain concepts that are never looked at. For example size; one can have free enterprise but there are businesses that don't work well with capital. I could take the Healthcare industry and show that its risk pools are most equitable when put nationally. Another example would be the regulation of industry, to live unscathed by private business folly is impossible if you leave the investigating to the individual.
@jymstone3 I am an expert at anything but I can understand premises and conclusions enough to sort these ideas out in my head. I would argue that skepticism helps me think clearly. I hate democrats, republicans, libertarians, and marxists. But there are ideas I accept and I respect non-absolutists.
@GingerAtheist "Money=power/speech"... Sounds like one of your professors' indoctrination! Money actually represents someone's labor. Some think property came before labor; nope! Now I see why you want Obama to steal money from some and give it to those who don't earn it. You're an "egalitarian" to boot. Well, that's really a lie you're living out because you also morph at will into a Kafka-like, roach-like existentialist. You need to dump that crap, and think for yourself.
@GingerAtheist Go read "Animal Farm" by Orwell. In any "managed economy", some will ALWAYS be more equal than others. I know you have been made into a mind numbed robot, so keep on with it... good luck.
@jymstone3 No, these are my observations. I am not an egalitarian, people are not equal in ability. This does not negate the distribution because I think people should show their true ability and not what happens to drop in their lap from their parents. I read Orwell's work and it show how power should never be concentrated. Also the morphism in Kafka's work wasn't the male, I read the story it was his sister's metamorphosis.
@lonedove1981 1. Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits will be eliminated and annual limits are to be restricted. 2. Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions. 3. Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' health plans until the age of 26. 4.Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage. Continued (Reuters)
@lonedove1981 Continued 1.A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. 2.Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. 3.A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses. 1. 10 percent tax on indoor tanning using UV (Reuters)
@cjbart2 Me and my sister are part time students and are able to benefit from our father's health plan until we graduate from our respective universities. This seems to be an increase in services so can you name a specific decrease of services?
@GingerAtheist Our local practitioners are cutting back on the acceptance of Medicare patients, since the re-reimbursements are already shrinking. I never could understand Part Time students. i went to university, graduated in 4 years, never borrowed a dime, worked 40 hours week and paid my own Medical insurance premium......My children were responsible for their costs also as they reached the age of majority.
Your situation is not an Increase in Services, it is an Increase in cost.
@cjbart2 Cost to what? Not to premiums I can assure. The CBO, Congressional Budget Office actually concluded that this Healthcare Act will increase services to 32 million non-elderly citizens by 2016. Also as far as my education goes I will have to spend 5 years to obtain my engineering degree. I don't come from an affluent family I live in an area that on average makes $50,000 a year. My father got his job without a degree which is impossible now-a-days. Also what do you mean "age of majority"?
@GingerAtheist Oh yeah, I watched it when Rith first made it. I've exchanged a couple of PM's with Rith, that effort really burned him out, can't blame him for not making more WB videos, so I'm just trying to continue his work.
We can't wait that long. we need to get the SOB and his chronies out right now! I'm sick of listening to obama schmooze America with his lies and deceptions like there's no tomorrow. if we don't impeach him soon there may not be a tomorrow or a 2012 election.
We can summarize the entire obama administration from obamacare. Liars, deceivers, schemers that DO NOT follow our Constitution and are working directly and indirectly for the overthrow of our nation.
If America does not wake up now and carefully study every issue and candidate then we are irrevocably doomed towards collapse. Organizations like goooh.com can, in one election (and pay for our campaign), citizen representatives that speak for all of us who may not have million$ in the bank.
Nobama no way.
SuperRip7 1 month ago
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odenskrigare 2 months ago
Government having real-time access to individual bank accounts?That is pure socialist dictatorship.It was exactly like this in communist Romania! This is the future the liberals are preparing for America?
superesterhazy 4 months ago 4
I would love to meet you Wild Bill
Shawnlynn1966 5 months ago
Love your videos Wild Bill (and your hat!).
bluestarchronicles 6 months ago
if one really knows how to reference or research what he talks about then you and many others would know... its obvious you and many others do not... no need for me to take the time to school.. learn on your own.. thanks for the videos bill they are very much appreciated..
TheShadetreeswrpp 6 months ago
Billy boy here thinks there's an invisible man living in the sky that controls everything ! It's a fact, I am not making this crazy shit up, he actually believes that ! Knowing that can you really take anything this maniac says seriously ?!?!
MonsterMunchAreAce 6 months ago
@MonsterMunchAreAce ...And your voice of reason? Since you know everything about "Obama Care" what are on pages 58-59? Since you know everything about the U.S. Congress why doesn't the congress have to pay into "Obama Care"! You run your mouth let's see if you know the answers... You talk the talk but can you walk the walk? If not stick to your own countries politics as it's going up in flames...
lonedove1981 5 months ago
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@lonedove1981 I know enough about The Health Care Bill to know that what Bill is saying here is bull shit and even Judge Kithil says it is bull shit. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 5 months ago
again thk you bill for the motivation and direction sir. my hats off to ya..if there is anything i can do to help you please feel free to contact me. ill visit your site and leave you a message. i have done so in the past several months and have not got a single response from you.
TheShadetreeswrpp 6 months ago
@TheShadetreeswrpp Take a couple of letters out of your name and you are left with sheep. If you believe one word that Bill spews, that is all that you are. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
thank you bill/ keep them coming in.
TheShadetreeswrpp 6 months ago
@blackfootfred I'm working on it.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Hey Bill In my response video (/watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ) that you are too much a coward to allow, I speculate that your "Secret Service Secrets" video came from a viral email, but I couldn't find attribution for your stories after 2005, guess what, today I found it. Fact Check dot org, under the title "Secret Service Tattle Tales." Now that I've proven that 2 of your videos are nothing more than viral emails, if I keep checking are all of your videos nothing more than that?
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Hey Bill, I just sent you another video response, have you got the balls to allow it?
/watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
By the way, it is an excellent video too! ;-))
Beachbug1vw 6 months ago
You should check your facts! Not one Republican in either the House or Senate voted for that rag bill!
Beachbug1vw 6 months ago
@Beachbug1vw You should check your facts, too. No republican or democrat voted for the bill that Judge Kithil wrote about. The final version of the bill wasn't written until months after that letter was written. Even Judge Kithil is trying to distance himself from that viral email. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Vote for Perry he can fix this mess with alot of prayer.
brianhar100 6 months ago
@brianhar100 Yeah look at how well his prayer day went a couple of weeks ago, next day the stock market crashed. Praying sure did a lot of good didn't it?
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@ATCFDrummer That's my point. Works good don't it?
brianhar100 6 months ago
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@brianhar100 Hey man, just noticed your a musician, looking forward to hearing some of it. Check out my band on my channel, if you get the chance.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@blackfootfred Bad language just makes you look bad; nobody respects someone who uses filthy language.
jymstone3 6 months ago
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jymstone3 6 months ago
Hooah!
GeoffsUtubeAccount 6 months ago
DUMP The CHUMP in 2012
Darwinist1 6 months ago
Too bad we do not have a candidate to run against him. If we do not get serious and find someone that can run against him he will win a second term.
Thewizzardof9 6 months ago
IMPEACH! CONVICT! IMPRISON! Guantanamo is missing the presidential imposter that should be chained to the floor there. HELP THE IMPOSTER GET TO HIS RIGHTFUL HOME at Guantanamo! Support the IMMEDIATE impeachement and imprisonment of Ohbummah! He's been away from "home" for too long.
ThLuckyOne 6 months ago
can you please provide references for the judge's notes?
RDJim 6 months ago
@RDJim Bill's source is a viral email that has been floating around since 2009, long before the final draft was voted on, The Washington Post pointed out the errors in it on Jan. 21, 2011. /watch?v=oOJK6caKIWI Sorry about the quality of my video, but there is a link to the article in the description box.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@ATCFDrummer I'm sorry for the quality of your video and your audio... oooo you scare me with your "POOF" (proof) LOL
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 You didn't even take the time to follow the link in the description box, and actually read the article, did you?
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@ATCFDrummer What am I supposed to be your mommie and clean up after your incompetence? You want somebody to respect you, post something worth a crap
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 Quite the comment comming from someone who has never even attempted to make a video. Since reading seems to be too much a strain on your brain, try this video. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@jymstone3 By the way , that video never even included any audio. But, I do now have a video up that does include audio, if you need translation for any word over 2 syllsables, just let me know. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Hey Bill, I just sent you a response video, lets see if you have the balls to allow it.
Since I doubt you do, here's the link for everyone, /watch?v=oOJK6caKIWI
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Obama and his entire family should be deported...IMMEDIATELY. Actually...I'd rather see him imprisoned like the sneaky crooked politician that he is.
SUCKMEISTER005 6 months ago
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NicolasDavid24 6 months ago
America is slipping away from the tyrant
jeanneseay1 6 months ago
E E EDL
Support the English Defence League
Even we in the UK know what an ass hole Obama Bin Laden is
mickeymcgregor1 6 months ago
I am sorry thieves will be shot on sight
Truklodyte 6 months ago
of the front runners of the republicans candidates swing voters won't vote for them apart from Romney who is fairly normal but has the disadvantage of being a Mormon. Come up with a proper candidate who is not a RWNJ and the republicans have a chance otherwise its Obama for another four more years.
angrywhenroused 6 months ago
Bill you moron, your source is a viral email that is woefully out of date, and most of Kithil's conclusions were based on misunderstandings of obtuse lawer speak, and since the letter was written in 2009, it does not even address the far more conservative version that was finally passed. This was reported on 1/21/11 by the Washington Post. You can find it at snopes dot com also.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@ATCFDrummer Hey Bill, if you were a real cop you wouldn't be this gullible.
Show me the long form US Marshal certificate!!!
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Bill....I wish you wouldn't bear around the bush the way you do....LOL!
DapperDan47 6 months ago
Do you possess a conscience, or do you just not mind constantly lying?
ScottishAtheist 6 months ago
@ScottishAtheist I suspect both.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
Obama is a liar from hell and I, can't wait to see our Nation put him out. He and his cronies have sold out our country. Now with the health bill that they have run down our throats, the Death panels will start and you can kiss the older generation bye. I hope people continue to open their eyes and see what is going on.
thorsthunder77 6 months ago 6
I think I'm in love. Thank you Wild Bill for stating the obvious so clearly...no punches pulled....no BS....political correctness aside. You are my hero!
bjeweled21 6 months ago
My sister and I are benefiting from Obamacare. You are correct when you say Obamacare, because Obama does care.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Obama doesn't give a shit about you. He wants your vote so he can ruin our country some more in the next term. You're retarded. Obamacare hasn't even started yet.
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 Actually there are parts of the plan that have been enacted, ex the fact that my sister can still get health insurance from my father's plan even though she is a part time student. I don't literally think that Obama gives a shit either but I also don't think some people know how language operates. Like the phrase Freedom Fries isn't against the french but equates the french with freedom. Can you name an action that Obama has taken as president that has ruined the US fiscally?
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Obamacare and the "stimulus bill". Wasting our money when he should be cutting the budget, not spending more. We're over 14 trillion dollars in debt. He hasn't' done a thing to help cut back.
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 The stimulus bill was fiscally sound, it saved are economy from crashing entirely. The reason we needed the stimulus was because private industry was uncertain which prevents employment from increasing. The health care bill was planned to be at least deficit neutral and at most deficit reducing by $210 billion. These are findings by the CBO, Congressional budget Office. The risk pools that the health insurance industry uses are too small and actually need to be larger for benefit.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist All the stimulus bill did was funnel money we didn't have into public jobs. If it helped the private sector, it helped it very little. There were nearly no jobs created from the stimulus bill in the private sector.
The health care bill is going to be gone in 2013 anyways. Probably even before then by the way things are looking.
The democratic party did not pass a budget while the had control of both houses of congress for 2 years. That's ridiculous.
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 What ever one thinks of the stimulus bill, whether or not it worked, is irrelevant. The jobs it funded were both private and public. This bill was necessary to keep our economy solvent. In order to pay a person a wage there needs some type of action, who ever owns that labor does not matter. The healthcare bill will probably stay, even if we have a (R) president. Public opinion is clear, most people actually like the effects of the bill. Everything else said is you posturing.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Out of most polls I've seen, a majority do not like the current bill.
The healthcare bill will be repealed. It is being declared unconstitutional by a judge currently, I believe, because it is. You can't make it a law for someone to buy something. I don't see why we can justify giving people free stuff. All I have to say is Ron Paul needs to be our president. Then America can actually be what it was meant to be. Honestly, I'd go with anyone except Obama at this point. :\
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 Mitt Romney is your best bet. Also the supreme court is going to hear the case because it has been said by multiple judges that this bill is either constitutional or not. I would say you can compel a populace to invest in a product I can cite four examples; wars, education, car insurance, and roads. And if you want a libertarians view of Ron Paul's economic policy watch this- /watch?v=vXZvewWguf0
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist I'd rather have Ron Paul. He's probably the only politician who has not flip-flopped for over 40 years.
That guy in the video has nothing to back his findings up with. :\ Go to Ron Paul's website, or find an interview with him on his economic policies. They make sense. Gold has value no matter when you have it. You can't "print" gold. Ever since our money was taken off the gold standard, the economy has gone to shit.
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 I don't argue against Ron Paul, I ignore him. Did you watch the video? His claims are ones of logic not of evidence. You have a very simple view of economic history, the pinnacle of an unstable economy was during the 1800s.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Yes, during the 1800's we had a civil war going on. That is what brought our economy to its knees. After the civil war, the economy was put back on the gold standard which helped the economy get back on its feet.
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 No wrong the Civil War was only one decade and the gold standard wasn't killed until 1933 when our economy was trying to be rebuilt by FDR, Republican. Nixon and FDR are the republicans to emulate not Reagan and Ron Paul. Both Reagan and Paul are dangerous ideologues that don't know the value of pragmatism. Obama can do one thing that is at the heart of any fiscally sound policy, pragmatism. But he gives a dash to much to ideologues.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist LOL. Did you just say FDR was a Republican.... I'm going to stop this argument based on the fact that you think FDR is Republican. Obviously you don't know the difference between the two parties.
/epicfail
Nebraska2155 6 months ago
@Nebraska2155 Sorry about that I miss typed and miss thought. I was going for Teddy Roosevelt who was a republican. That was a major mess. But it was comparable to your misquote of the Civil War as a century long. Also the gold standard bullshit. No ones perfect, I suck at names.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist You obviously do not stand on a moral base of any kind. As an individual who respects others' rights to believe or not believe what ever they want (don't tread on me), you and (seemingly) your hero, Barack Hussein Obama, make up your rules as you go along. Since man is now YOUR God, anyone who disagrees with you and tries to hold to an anchor is called "POSTURING". I say UP FRONT: BULLSHIT!
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 I am on an equal moral basis with everyone else, represented by the first amendment. If I do something wrong I will be called out for it. If I see someone else do wrong I will call them out on it. Freedom of speech guarantees that we all can be offended equally. Also Obama is not my hero, he is someone I would give due deference to because of his fiscal conservatism. Also I have no god, I am an individual and control my own actions. Did you know one could be good without god.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist That's a good one, Obama the fiscal conservative~ LOL
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 Ok the one thing that denies him that title is continuing the Bush tax cuts which are Keynesian.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Yep, you're right about Keynsianism sucking. But to say that is to assume that since Bush wasn't a conservative and that he cowtowed to the Keysian collectivists, that you can blame all our problems on HIM??? So I guess the Obamanistas are the champions of free enterprise? I DONT think so... In case you think I'm a lightweight butterfly... I served on the EXCOM of the Florida Libertarian Party in the early '80s. BTW, I cut my teeth on Ayn Rand... You're not BSing me
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 Well no certain Keynesian actions are beneficial, the tax cut form of Keynesian is only beneficial if one goes from a 90% to a 50% tax rate. Keynesian economics isn't collectivist in nature it is regulatory. I support a more socialist agenda so I am disappointed at Obama to that extent. As for the capitalist policies I support he has been consistent with. Any strict ideological policy is weak, this is why I support Pragmatism. What do you mean by "cutting your teeth"?
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist What do you think I mean by "cutting my teeth"? You're a native English speaker, right? FYI: The expression is somewhat literal, for the implication is that by the time a person has got his permanent set of canine teeth, has reached the age of twelve or fourteen, he has passed out of babyhood and has reached years of discretion. This working of the saying appears to have originated in the United States, first recorded in 1870 by the essayist, Ralph Waldo Emerson
jymstone3 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Pragmatist, huh? I knew it. Make up your rules as you go. Pure action without that pesky thing called Objectivism... Alinsky... Gramsci... a couple of the more nefarious Pragmatists. Oops I almost forgot... JOHN DEWEY. Oh, yeah, George Soros the infamous Fabian Socialist who's trying to wipe out freedom in the world. Go back to college, chickie pooh! You need an education.
jymstone3 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist So you're a proponent of a mixed economy... Keynesianism WILL NEVER work unless via a brutish collectivist ruling dictator or oligarchy, for the sole purpose of ENFORCEMENT. DUH! FYI Capitalism is not the same as FREE ENTERPRISE. Our current form of "Crony Capitalism" is mirrored in Ayn Rand's Magnum Opus: ATLAS SHRUGGED Thanks but no thanks for your ideas on a mixed economy, et cetera. We've tried that and it SUCKS! Never has worked, so what do we do? Keep trying.
jymstone3 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Abolish the INCOME TAX! Stop feeding the ravenous crocodilian leviathan state. FAIR TAX RULES! POWER TO THE PEOPLE, (NOT the friggin' state).
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 This leviathan you speak of isn't the state. There are necessary evils, one has to grow up in order to reconcile with the establishment. The properties of the state should be our choosing, not a foreign limb to decapitate. Money=power/speech. One needs to make sure one man does not have power over another. The state is a part of the people, ideally. It just needs reforming not abolishing. Please don't be reactionary it's unhelpful, childish, and unhealthy.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist You talk about growing up... Wow, that's great. You are vomiting out a bunch of pompous junk that I chop to bits and then you vomit out more nonsense. Your quote, "The state is a part of the people, ideally. It just needs reforming not abolishing." I am not an Idealist, you are. When did I suggest anarchy? We are supposed to be a constitutional (modifier), democratic (modifier), Republic (noun). You are talking like we live in a Democracy. You're living in a fantasy
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 Quote where I am pompous and I will renounce the pomp. These are ideas that are compatible with our society not away from reality. The concept of a democracy is closer to describing the US situation. Also that statement is not idealist, I think it is possible to change our government through policy but never said it would be easy. The time frame is what makes concepts seem idealist.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Everything you say is pompous! Snarky liberals think they're smarter than everybody.
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 No you can critique my work, if I think you made a good point I will concede it. Liberal is the skeptic of policy, arguments rise or fall on there own merit. I can adapt to reality not make up my own, pompous would be saying one was less fallible which I don't.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@jymstone3 Lastly Ayn Rand's 'philosophy' is something I shy away from because of certain concepts that are never looked at. For example size; one can have free enterprise but there are businesses that don't work well with capital. I could take the Healthcare industry and show that its risk pools are most equitable when put nationally. Another example would be the regulation of industry, to live unscathed by private business folly is impossible if you leave the investigating to the individual.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Where are you published?
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 I am an expert at anything but I can understand premises and conclusions enough to sort these ideas out in my head. I would argue that skepticism helps me think clearly. I hate democrats, republicans, libertarians, and marxists. But there are ideas I accept and I respect non-absolutists.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist "Money=power/speech"... Sounds like one of your professors' indoctrination! Money actually represents someone's labor. Some think property came before labor; nope! Now I see why you want Obama to steal money from some and give it to those who don't earn it. You're an "egalitarian" to boot. Well, that's really a lie you're living out because you also morph at will into a Kafka-like, roach-like existentialist. You need to dump that crap, and think for yourself.
jymstone3 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Go read "Animal Farm" by Orwell. In any "managed economy", some will ALWAYS be more equal than others. I know you have been made into a mind numbed robot, so keep on with it... good luck.
jymstone3 6 months ago
@jymstone3 No, these are my observations. I am not an egalitarian, people are not equal in ability. This does not negate the distribution because I think people should show their true ability and not what happens to drop in their lap from their parents. I read Orwell's work and it show how power should never be concentrated. Also the morphism in Kafka's work wasn't the male, I read the story it was his sister's metamorphosis.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Can you name the parts of ObamaCare that have been enacted?
lonedove1981 6 months ago
@lonedove1981 1. Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits will be eliminated and annual limits are to be restricted. 2. Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions. 3. Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' health plans until the age of 26. 4.Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage. Continued (Reuters)
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@lonedove1981 Continued 1.A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. 2.Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. 3.A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses. 1. 10 percent tax on indoor tanning using UV (Reuters)
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist How does ObamaCare effect Veterans using the V.A. Hospital system?
lonedove1981 6 months ago
@lonedove1981 There were no standards of the Healthcare Act that Tricare isn't already meeting.
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist At this point, what could you be benefiting from? The only affect we have seen is a reduction of services
cjbart2 6 months ago
@cjbart2 Me and my sister are part time students and are able to benefit from our father's health plan until we graduate from our respective universities. This seems to be an increase in services so can you name a specific decrease of services?
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Our local practitioners are cutting back on the acceptance of Medicare patients, since the re-reimbursements are already shrinking. I never could understand Part Time students. i went to university, graduated in 4 years, never borrowed a dime, worked 40 hours week and paid my own Medical insurance premium......My children were responsible for their costs also as they reached the age of majority.
Your situation is not an Increase in Services, it is an Increase in cost.
cjbart2 6 months ago
@cjbart2 Cost to what? Not to premiums I can assure. The CBO, Congressional Budget Office actually concluded that this Healthcare Act will increase services to 32 million non-elderly citizens by 2016. Also as far as my education goes I will have to spend 5 years to obtain my engineering degree. I don't come from an affluent family I live in an area that on average makes $50,000 a year. My father got his job without a degree which is impossible now-a-days. Also what do you mean "age of majority"?
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist I thought you might enjoy this video, it's a little fact checking on what WB says. /watch?v=sflicCsw0PQ
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
@ATCFDrummer Thanks man, I saw you comments. Have you ever seen the 1 hour 42 minute Ragnarok against WB- /watch?v=fIkP1AG_X5w
GingerAtheist 6 months ago
@GingerAtheist Oh yeah, I watched it when Rith first made it. I've exchanged a couple of PM's with Rith, that effort really burned him out, can't blame him for not making more WB videos, so I'm just trying to continue his work.
ATCFDrummer 6 months ago
We can't wait that long. we need to get the SOB and his chronies out right now! I'm sick of listening to obama schmooze America with his lies and deceptions like there's no tomorrow. if we don't impeach him soon there may not be a tomorrow or a 2012 election.
randellmd 6 months ago
We can summarize the entire obama administration from obamacare. Liars, deceivers, schemers that DO NOT follow our Constitution and are working directly and indirectly for the overthrow of our nation.
If America does not wake up now and carefully study every issue and candidate then we are irrevocably doomed towards collapse. Organizations like goooh.com can, in one election (and pay for our campaign), citizen representatives that speak for all of us who may not have million$ in the bank.
bobfox321 6 months ago
Im canadian and i feel for u guys
cholent770 6 months ago
@cholent770 Wow, thank you neighbors. Hopefully the USA will wake the hell up!
bobfox321 6 months ago 2
BILL! I AM DAMN PROUD OF YOU. YOU FINALLY MENTIONED WEAK REPUBLICANS ALONG WITH THOSE COMMUNISTS! God bless America, and God bless you Bill.....
alielbaryeshua 6 months ago 2
Wow .i had it with this man. Cant wait for 2012
bluetunder40 6 months ago
Keep it real WB!!
Chuck65201 6 months ago
We need snipers in DC STAT!
ThreeCatsScratching 6 months ago 2
Obama is a one termer. It's over for him WB :)
MWJEFF1 6 months ago 14
@MWJEFF1 Yep, I think its a forgone conclusion; we just need to dump all the "Maxine Waters" too.
jymstone3 6 months ago