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  • 100 marines walk into a bar and ask "where's the counter?"

  • I know there is no such thing is OP and don't troll, but seriously Marines are OP. Marines were already fking hard to deal with in Starcraft 1 with Medics in the mix, now they have combat shields, easier to micro, and a Medivac instead of a Medic healing them. And, they counter about everything. HOW IS THAT NOT OP?

  • lol google image/video search Sora Aoi

    for maximum effect, take off content filters

    merry belated christmas!!

  • infestors with fungal growth woulda been devastating

  • Please try to say "Obviously" not that often, it is sooo annoying.

  • Pure marines??? Wtf But actually there could be contra to marines WHAT ABOUT BROOT LORDS?

  • @My1way1on1a1highway

    that many upgraded marines will eat threw broodlords, and also broodlords are extremely expensive, especially on gas. wouldnt give much room for banelings. zerg should have gone a ling/bane/roach/infestor combo.

  • Pure marines??? Wtf

  • I'm not the only one who wants more sora games right? 

  • banelings + infestors, enough said.

  • Proof that Ultras are just plain bad.

  • And This is how to 'Out-Zerg' the Zerg! {Uber production output of cheep units} L0z!;}

    And yeah, Ultra vs. Mass M's== *.* ('Cause in SC2, Quantity, not Quality, it what wins)

    [ex. X num. BC's vs. Y num. Vikings, Y ==(X worth supply and resource cost)]

    Big num of low tech beats low num of high tech, Almost every time.

    {unless u can't shoot air! ;}{See old vid Murader vs Gateway units}

  • @ZGuy0fSci not true. high templars, infestors, siege tanks and colossus rape the fuck off low tier units when properly used, even in critically low numbers against a massive army.

  • @GraveUypo

    'Key Phrase': "IF Used Properly". Even then, if have enough, can divide&conquer 'em 2Hell and back...

    (PS, WHY no one ever seem to get the BC's main gunz? the Amado(?) Cannon? So many battles lost against lower tier units because of it, seems...)

    Oh, and glhf! L0z

  • @ZGuy0fSci not that easy to do against someone who knows what he's doing. and btw, when i said "if used properly" i meant "in the hands of anyone who isn't a total noob".

    if numbers were THAT important, protoss would be the worst race by far, and everyone would go mass marine / zergling.

    you can't go all massive units either, of couse. that's even worse than sticking to a lot of tier 1 units. it's all about getting a balanced army to counter your enemy.

  • @GraveUypo

    Hey, even Noobz have feallings, Uknow! {jK, not really noob, much?;}

    Still, this whole 'No one beats everything Always' thing is what makes SC2 such an AWESOME/miraculously KewL thing to be part of (even if can only watch... [sad face...] Loz:)

    Oh, and not answerd question: WHY NOT GET'N AMADO ON BCs?!(much). ahem, sorry if 2load there. nn

    [PS, jK on bad grammar; not illiterate...Really, i'm not!;]

  • @ZGuy0fSci why get battlecruisers in the first place? they suck lol

  • @GraveUypo

    Yeah, teir3 kinda do, don't they? L0z...(Except for Colossus; Protos 3rd imba?;)

    Also, speaking of "Tier-1 Terror", would you&Urz want to watch a purely TvT multi-person Free-For-All, Reactors Only, only One Tech Lab (for upgrades and Few teir'2s)? If so, help spread the word! [Sent Big_List to the guys already,]

  • the Zerg's strat was bad... banelings are terribly inefficient, and he should have pressed when he had the chance. Also mass infantry, come on, infestor , no brainer! fungal growth....

  • lol Ultras. = Lose. No Brood lords, no infestors. He just needed infestors with that recyclable energy to be even more cost effective than the terran player. Banelings are cool, but you need to manage to kill more than just the marines when you attack. Also Roaches are kinda cost effective against marines.

  • I'm more than surprised by this video. I mean, high-level play too, right? Holy shit---JUST MARINES. NOICE.

  • why would any self-respecting zerg player be mad over this?

    there were zero infestors on the field. i mean, really?

    if anything, this just proves that banelings are so cost-effective that it really is sickening. trolls go ahead and flame me, im saying zerg needs balance. banelings are too efficient because you can still happily tech without worrying about gas because 6+extractors are no problem. ultralisks are less gas efficient. up gas for banelings, down gas for ultras. my 2 cents.

  • @clvinning if he didnt just stand there and take the banelings up the bum they are very manageable

  • Now I'm going to try this....and get royally owned

  • Okay, I rewinded, and find out why Zerg lost at the game. He made 8 Ultras. that costs 2400 mineral + 1600 gas = 64 banelings + 32 Zergling except tech cost. When I see more than 10 baneling in this game, Zerg always wins at the battle, because his marine split is not something Foxer. I think it's zerg's mistake to make Ultra. It was fully upgraded marines and dealing 5 damage per attack, which is not bad against 1base +3 armored Ultra I believe. Fully upgraded Ultra take only 2 per attack.

  • I don't think the infestor does matter. The reason infestor is soo darn good against marine is not just fungle growth, but FG + banelings. However, Terran didn't do very intense spliting his marines. He did some, but not very impressive enough to go for all in marine tactic. I think if Zerg didn't go Ultra but keep producing Zerglings and banelings, then he should win. Terran's economy was too much rely on mules and it will run out quickly. Same level of unit loss long term? -> terran's lost.

  • WTF? Terran wins? I definitely thought terran gonna lose when I see baneling's melting down bunch of marines 3 times or more.

  • Sorry for too many post but I just have to quote: "Marines are chewing up the ultras" Never thought I will hear these words being uttered...

  • @Silverknite1 this isn't broodwar, retard. siege tanks aren't half as cost-effective as they were several years ago. marauders? don't even get me started with marauders in TvZ... only way marauders are viable are with hellion+marauder+scv all-in, which is a very very sad tactic but it does win games (yes, even in masters). all these zergs that QQ their asses off just really need to learn2play. the only reason why terran won this game was because of the expo at the 9 position stayed alive.

  • Like Iydra said, Marines counters banelings.

  • @Silverknite1 um, no? i remember that game on metalopolis that you are referring to... idra only had maybe 10 banelings and attack-moved them into a group of about 20 stimmed marines.

    do the math, genius.

  • Real man watch in 240p (Not to mention if you have REALLY cheap internet)

  • 14:50 Shouldn't have recalled the mutas. He had enough blings and lings to delay the rines long enough to let his mutas take it all down.

  • 2 critical mistakes in this game by the zerg. he had attack move syndrome, he wasted dozens upon dozens of banelings attacking just 4 or 5 marines, when mutas or lings could have done it. he could have used the banelings to suicide the command centers. and when he attacked the main with his mutas, he should have kept it up and killed him, and beat the army that was down there with his lings and blings

  • Marines the hard counter to everything!!!!!!

  • that zerg player should switch to terran because he obviously had no idea how to play zerg

  • this game was EPIC, who cares what zerg does ? Just go marines ^^

  • OMFG to. it looked like the Zerg player had it for so long but the terran made it work.

  • OMFG that happened to me when there was just pure marines. Its really gay. It look like the zerg completely had that game. Im a zerg player and i dont think that was nice of the terran

  • zerg could've done soo much with those mutas

  • No one can qq, the Zerg played bad, he could have got infesters for fungal growth, even borrow some banelings around the map, he also could of done more muta harass to keep the Terran in his base

  • GOOD STUFFF.

  • terran new unit - Banerines lol

  • wow ! after watching sora twice with his marines, i'm a fan !! he's like a marine only liquid TLO. the guy's a genius ! he's obviously thought out his playstyle very well and in great detail. fantastic casting by ahnaris as usual.

  • That terran was just insane. I'd like to see what his APM was.

  • The reason why this is bullshit is becuase Ultras are supposed to counter marines...

  • zerg was too passive

  • Sora Aoi.....what a great username! I should have named my screen name to Maria Ozawa

  • incredible !

  • cant believe Terran won that

  • marines are a op unit, the dps with the 3 attack upgrade is incredible, and they are only 50 minerals each

  • Jesus that zerg made really poor decisions. I'm sorry, but he had several opportunities to attack. Why did he go ultralisks? Ultras and mutas vs. marines. That's such a bad idea. Terran's not OP, zerg just messed up because he was thrown off by his opponent going marines only.

  • How in the world did the terran player win....

  • @crazayj honestly its all how he controlled his micro and macro skills and kept that consistent pressure. obviously the zerg player was too stuck with his zling muta army and invested too much into it already. and when he transitioned into ultras i think he was behind on unit upgrades unlike the terran player to where he was maxed out

  • infestors

    fungal growth

    

  • Btw anyone complaini, the zerg had an opp to attack for ages.

  • urgh man, i hate when commentators miss stuff.. Watch the mini map more >.<

  • 1st: I look at all the zerg tears in the comments, then I laugh because I play Terran... Terran must be OP right?.... But then...

    2nd: I look at the winners of the GSL, SCRi, and ROOT Gaming Tourney and feel sad. (if you don't know what I'm talking about, a Terran has never won any of these)

    3rd: I come to the conclusion that it's just the "cool thing to do" to hate Terran and dismiss all of your biased opinions.

  • @kiwiteepee I know what you mean. All the haters of Terran dont do their homework and look at the stats. TERRAN ARE NOT OVERPOWERED YOU IDIOTS!!! Look at the tournaments records you morons

  • @REDRAGON12345 Terran op.

  • @ShonkyAdonis No.

  • @REDRAGON12345 shut up n00b. do you even HAVE this game?

  • that was unbelievable. it was about 5 base v 2 base. and he managed to win

  • @ldane zerg had about 35 drones total all the time. Godlike pros always have like 70-80 for that amount of expansions.

  • It's like a showcase of all the broken things with ZVT right now in a single replay

    I wish the Zerg had gone Infestors at some point just to show that it would have been equally bad, as in infestors pop, fungal 20 marines, 20 others stim and blow the infestors in half a second

    Also did someone really suggest Broodlords against mass marines with stim, every broodling would be killed instantly so you'd just end up with a slow as hell flying unit against mass stim marines, makes sense really

  • Thumbs up 4 Terran Marine Power xD Just gr8!

  • cmon sora, marines arnt zerglings, they have families too D:

  • marines are so OP could all zealot or all ling do the same thing in any matchup? no. BS man

  • now that is how you play with terran, no fancy, just straight to the point with it thumbs up

  • now that is how you play with terran, no fancy, just straight to the point with it thumbs up

  • should have gone infestors

  • BUILD BROOD LORDS!!!

  • @Doncroft1 That would be retarded. Marines can easily micro against blords. I think he should have went infester hydra, fungled the army and ranged the marines with grooved spines

  • @ParadoxOwnz

    Thats stupid, you have to exploit mobility with zerg (or try to) and hydras are slow as fuck off creep, he shouldve gotten infestors mutas, lings and banes and used his 5th and 6th bases as gas only

  • HAHAHAHAHAH i hope it pisses off a lot of zerg players!!!! LOL i LOVE watching zerg get ran over by terran :D zerg is such a gay race. GOOD GAME sora you are a beast

  • I guess if you got the mad skillz to spread your marines in a split second against speedlings and banelings, go for it xD.

  • marines, the counter to fucking everything

  • @pudgeypigeon expect banelings (:

  • One word: Infestors.

  • fantastic opening with 3 command centers!

    Mass marine worked because he was earning mineral fast, and killing zerg's larvae and gas.

    with so many command centers and 10 barracks he could pump 18 marines at a time. Zerg can't do that. and the marines are ranged.

  • I wouldn't want to be a marine in SoraAoi's army after that 2v2 =p

    chance of death was like 99% =P

  • Your comments are awesome, but why not put some music in there for ambiance ?

  • Why would he go ultras? They're worthless.

    I find a bit odd that a terran can have higher income on 2 bases than a zerg on 4.

  • I think if the zerg did not through away those mutas to the marines he could of sniped the reactors right then

  • i was surprised that mass marine actually worked. he got wiped so many times to banelings, but didnt transition into anything i thought he wouldve lost.

  • wow that was a strange way to win lol

    but it makes sense

  • Banelings and Ultralisks are still good counter to marines technically despite the marines high dps output but sora was able to rebuild and mass his armies even quicker than the zerg player can so i guess it was a matter of time b4 the zerg got outplayed :))

    broodlord wouldnt be as effective, marines will just stim and run beneath them. Infestors wouldve change the outcome tho.

  • No need to hate, the zerg just got cought off guard by a play stlye he did not expect. Should have gone corrupters, they rape mass marines, and certainly a way better choice then Ultras at that point.

  • @TheWinterNights I am assuming you mean brood lords and not corruptors.

  • @TheWinterNights corrupters doesnt shoot ground smartass

  • Someone send this replay to idra

  • And he was like, banelings banelings banelings oohh! Btw the Protoss wins =)

  • herp whats a broodlord derp

  • derp whats an infestor derp

  • this soraaoi really is playing like a retard

  • the terran played like a zerg, fast expand, kept rebuilding his army super fast after each engagement, he out could out swarm the zerg, ha

  • incredible play by soraaoi, really taking advantage of the strenghts of terran

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  • Ahnaris, what race do you play?

  • wow simplicity=success

  • Terran marines <3

  • Terran isnt OP, lol

  • LoL Sora Aoi the double D Japanese porn star?

  • Lol.... I love how at the end, Sora sighs (in Korean) when the game ends at 19:44. It must have been a lot of work even on Sora's side...

    I personally think that he has done so much and was just about to out micro and macro the zerg player... to an extent. Usually I hate it when Terran players win (hate those marauders with a passion of a dying super star), but this one I am content with. Good job to Sora!

  • Terran T1 units. All they need

  • seriously everyone knows marines are op

  • sick game,

    never seen a terran outmass a zerg wow he resurged his army sooo fast

    GUYS, do you think it was that tricky expansion that helped terran mass up so fast ??

    

    mules ??

    or the fast expand ??

  • @dannieurok1d he had the knowledge to build mules indeed

  • @dannieurok1d it was that he managed to keep out that first drone. It made the zerg player decide to just try and out macro. If the drone looked in and saw the second barracks he'd have been able to realise that the terran was going to be more aggressive but have little to no army and then he'd have switched to zergling-ing it up. It was the clutch barracks stopping the drone getting in that put him in the lead straight from the begining

  • this game sucked. the terran player was crap, and zerg was even worse for losing

  • zerg was owning till he got those ultralisks. they are the worst units ever.

  • @kingnatre ultras with attack upgrades even at level one would have done sooo much extra damage. The zerg just sent them in too early, lost them and then didn't have enough left to get upgrades

  • @boredwan ultras were upgraded 3-3...

  • @boredwan zerg got 3-3 before mutas even came out

  • I can't believe it. I ... I just can't.

  • Why get ultralisk? ;S why not invest into infestor

  • Terran is bullshit. Zerg had complete dominance over that game. Planetarys OP against ground forces because of massive splash and marines are way too cost effective against mutas and when microed correctly are cost effective against banelings too.

  • @Mirrorenergy Yes, it will seem we will have to wait until HotS to get the lurker back and change that.

  • that terran is a zerg player at heart

  • Don't understand the Mutas though (except for harass, but he didn't do that much). What do you want with mutas vs. mass marines?

    Plus the 3rd base from terran survived way too long. It was nearly mined out by the time it went down.

    Terran didn't play that good IMHO. Queuing up 3 SCVs while having below 100 minerals...several times during the game.

    The creep spread was hilarious and the terran pretty much didn't care which is deadly vs. banelings.

  • @Chloiber when you're having so many marines (which are really cheap) you can afford to have 3 scvs queued up so you focus more on micro rather than macro. He can do it because he has so many goddamn minerals it doesn't really matter, specially since scvs are the same cost as a marine.

  • @SopaDeDinosaurio

    Generally I agree, but not if you're below 80 minerals and your barracks aren't producing anything because of it.

  • Waaaaay too much creepspread. Terran has to do something about it, can't let that happen.

  • most painful T v Z ever, no marine micro whatsoever, just throwing minerals away by the terran player, no tech switch to counter mutas or banelings, very much one sided engagements all through out the game, poor choice by the terran player trying to out micro the zerg, no pressure by terran in early game, and poor tech choices and weak micro equals failed strategy, only reason the terran won is because zerg player's disastrous tech switch in the end

  • @pure0pwnage he won so how did the strategy fail?

  • marines-the counter for banelings

    terran-the most op race

    unbalanced-all of blizzards games

  • I dont even understand why he went for ultras just go mass mass banelings and if you have 70 banlings you cant micro from that unless the lings are going into a choke.

  • He played Terran as Zerg, mass mass mass units :D

  • wtf marines arnt even effected by thier hard counter. That my friends is why i play terran and agree when people cry op

  • @Mrbeanstalk4 Yeah, marines are good. But to play like this you still have to have crazy micro and macro.

  • this guy is the true marine king fuck the cheese fucker of foxer.

  • Its not that the Terran marrined medvac is OP its just that the zerg was doing ok keeping him off his back with the baneling zergling counter and decided to switch to Ultras with was a bad idea

  • Thumbs up for the porn star sora aoi :D

  • He should have gone for brood lords

  • Ahnaris pls make the ingame sounds louder.

  • God damn marines -.- don't even cost gas...

  • @Paggee zerglings dont

  • Craaaaaaazyyy, sick video dude thanks :D

  • This has been the week of the failed Ultralisks...

  • wow way to bronze it....

  • protoss win ^^

  • SoraAoi..... serious? someone watches a lot of japanese AV

  • Posting spoilers should be illegal.

  • If Idra sees that his head blows up with anger

  • @bombaybic Idra would rage quit the replay, he wouldn't make it to the end

  • @bombaybic Idra: marines is the counter of banlings

  • +3 +3 marines r insane

  • em MARINES ARE OP

  • @lovebattleforgemass banelings is op........ and for the marines thats called good micro..........

  • omg lol how did the terran win zerg shouldnt have gone ultras

  • OMG zerg was retarded...could have just done baneling drops in base to kill reactors and scvs or maybe actually put pressure on terran like most zerg players do....

  • im a zerg player. how dare you post this video.

  • Sora Aoi = name of an japanese pornstar and i might say I'm quite a fan of her work!

  • because Ultras no gg

  • Shoulda nydus to destroy the barracks

  • Im a z player, and although it's kinda lame in the way ahnaris says, everybody who knows sc knows marines w stim are good vs everything....

  • i cant f**** believe it!!!!that zerg got more than half the map, double his adversary and tech up, but still managed to lose the game!!!! what a douche

  • More Porn Please!!!

  • Yeah Terran 3 armor and 3 attack are imba against 1,2 Zerg. Mm hm. The Zerg would have destroyed the Terran with a few Infestors.

  • actually he transfused a lot of those ultra's 19:30

  • that was epic

  • kind of a game you can only watch in korea servers

  • Awesome game!

  • obviously this guy doesn't know that marines are the counter to banelings

  • how do u load up units in med's so fast?

  • i wonder if it would be a good idea of making banelings doing friendly damage just like siege tanks, it's just an idea lol

  • @hockeybrat95

    hell no... they'd always kill the units (like say, other banes) that are around them....

  • marines are like the most cost effective unit in the game... terran was probably winning the resources lost race because the baneling explosions were just not worth it. zerg made them attack move and you can see some engagements were like 10 banelings for 15 marines. not worth it, but they were attack move so they all exploded at the same time.

    yeah that's pretty much how terran got down on zerg.