Alex Skolnick is good...but I feel that Al Pitrelli has a better sound and plays smoother than Alex. I've spent some time going back and forth studying the two and I have to say that "overall" Pitrelli brings more to TSO than Skolnick. I'm not saying that Skolnick is a bad player, he is deffinitely an accomplished artist. I just think that Pitrelli makes TSO sound better.
@loveurlife90 Yes that's David Z. There are 2 different touring groups of TSO. They do this to be able to cover more ground in the Christmas touring season. There is TSO East and TSO West. Johnny Z is the bassist in TSO East and Johnny Lee Middleton is the bassist in TSO West.
3: a group of musicians including especially string players organized to perform ensemble music -- they are just a very modernized orchestra. They also utilize traditional orchestras (usually from a local college or other orchestra) for their live shows.
I get so tired of seeing comments from people who can't spell, can't type correctly and have no apparent education.
Please let me help!
ORCHESTR: a group of performers on various musical instruments, including stringed instruments of the viol class, clarinets and flutes, cornets and trombones, drums, and cymbals, for playing music, as symphonies, operas, popular music, or other compositions.
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I'm not sure I understand the attraction to these guys. It's just a gimmick, it'll never last unfortunately. Take some Christmas carols, throw in a few power chords on a guitar, and maybe write a few extremely simple tunes with some 'Xmas like' samples thrown in on the keyboard?
It's a lot more than that. This video shows nothing of the actual live show. The light and pyrotechnics show alone is stunning, and they do have a lot more songs going for them than just Christmas carols (which I found out last night live)
Give them some credit for doing more than slowing down or speeding up overplayed holiday songs like so many "pop" stars have-done (yawn at them)... I was Rock'n' to these guys even in the summer >-D
the live show thats TSO does is absolutely stunning. I went to my 4th show two nights ago in Kansas City and it was amazing. The lights and the show they put on. They do more than just christmas carols. They had a CD entitled Beethoven's Last Night which was amazing. I don't understand how they are unattractive. It'll never last? please they have been around since the 90's. Get your facts right.
Amazing !! You look at them before they start to play and you would think they are about to come out with a death metal song... They have great tallent, their music is wonderful and inspiring :)
Some of them used to be in a metal band called Savatage. In fact TSO's most popular song "Christmas Eve Savatage" was originally done by Savatage on their Dead Winter Dead album over ten years ago.
I saw them live in Chicago yesterday and I thank TSOVids for posting this clip. It is much cleaner in videio and sound quality than most of the other vids of TSO on youtube. That being said after seeing the whole band with the lights, pyro and incredible sound mix for an arenathe vid is for lack of a better term, sterile. TSO hey if your out there, I would pay good money for a concert video professionally produced by the band
oh, i agree. i recently saw them in Rupp Arena, Lexington, KY, and it is AMAZING to see them in concert! it would be awesome to have some videos with all their concert lights, fire, etc, that really are part of the overall experience.
for all of us music ppl imagine the counting that must've gone on then staying together i mean its small but small enough to hear even the smallest mistakes this must have been nuts to practice
Do you know how difficult it is to play that ending? I sometimes jam with a friend (he plays lead guitar, I play bass) and we throw down prog-metal stuff and did just one chromatic section of root-major third-minor third down half-steps for an octave. We nail it, but he and I are just like that together. This is a four-note major scale descension through two octaves. Infreakingcredible.
What a bastard. Fool doesn't understand and so he accuses me of not knowing what I'm talking about. I've been in music longer than you've been alive, asshole.
I didn't steal anybody's ideas. And FYI, I have two college degrees in mass communication and classical Greek with departmental distinction in each. Makes you look like a two-bit beggar to call me an idiot now, huh?
This is my last post. You are hereby on **IGNORE**
in their band, yes it is necessary for them to have three guitarist. One plays lead, one plays Rhythm, and one plays melody. They have a massive orchestra when they play all over the country...so they need that many yes.
yeah, gives it that orchestra sound, after all its called the trans siberian orchestra (pretend orchestra is underlined. but the middle guy was pretty useless, i bet they could done it with one guitarist.
This group is awesome. Just wonder if all who are standing there performing are the entire group? Or is there a larger group? Sometimes on TV shows, they play the instruments and have a back up song in the background playing?
TSO NEVER fakes it. Never. It is truly them. Compare this to the actual Lost Christmas Eve album and you'll hear the difference.
And yes, there is a larger group. These are a few of the guys from their East Coast Group. But they have an entire East and West Coast group. A total of almost 200 people. That's how much of a hit they are, they have to split into 2 groups so they can cover enough ground
The east coast band is way better!!! but why is everyone fighting about this? theyre all in the same band and they all play the same songs... theyre all good in my book...if you ask me...
The west is better partly because people are used to it. I think the same thing. I think the narrator is better, the singers are better, and that Al Pitrelli and Tommy Farese are better showmen. Then again my only experience of the east coast tour is seeing youtube videos.
sorry, but TSO is so much better on stage.. I dont know if its TSO east or just the R&K show, but they sound reall really bad... They need to have pro videos of them on stage... I mean,, people in the Wiazrds in Witner cotnest played this song bettter then they just did right now... maybe im so used to tso west being so great.. i dont know... its hurt me to say this...
I often wondered which troupe was better east or west. I would much rather have Al Pitrelli over Alex Scolinik as the guitar player...however watching all the youtube video's I think the east coast troupe is better than the west.
Really! The audio/video of the west coast shows to me just don't seem as dynamic as the east. How have you come to this conclusion that the West coast truope is better? Now I definitely need to make the trip out west to see the west coast troupe!
I have to stop looking at TSO comments cause it just pisses me off. Glad you all love the band so much. I do too, but shut up unless you know what you're talking about. The "CREATORS of TSO" is Savatage and its various members... including producer Paul O'Neill and studio keyboardist / arranger Bob Kinkel.
The EAST has the drummer Jeff Plate, guitarists Chris Caffrey and Alex Skolnick and keyboardist Bob Kinkel. Thats four "CREATORS". The WEST as I remember has guitarist Al Pitrelli, producer Paul O'Niell on guitar, bassist John Lee Middleton (sp?), and up until recent tours Savatage founder and keyboardist Jon Oliva. That's four "Creators". I personally wish all the "CREATORS" would do one tour. That would be the best, trust me. Or better yet... RISE UP SAVA-ARMY and bring on the 'TAGE!!!
omg i saw them in concert 2 times. we had awesome seats. the bass player(David Z) is so HOT! i have all of their autographs and sum other stuff from the concert.
DUde do you even kno who these guys are ? That Is Paul Oneal in the center ( one of the founders of TSO) and Chris caffery on the left and Alex Scholnick on the right.
their music will never get old!
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Alex Skolnick is good...but I feel that Al Pitrelli has a better sound and plays smoother than Alex. I've spent some time going back and forth studying the two and I have to say that "overall" Pitrelli brings more to TSO than Skolnick. I'm not saying that Skolnick is a bad player, he is deffinitely an accomplished artist. I just think that Pitrelli makes TSO sound better.
ClanMcReynolds 3 months ago
i love alex skolnik in TSO and in Testament
MegaWitchhunter 5 months ago
On bass in the back it looks like David Z...am I correct?
loveurlife90 1 year ago
@loveurlife90 Yes that's David Z. There are 2 different touring groups of TSO. They do this to be able to cover more ground in the Christmas touring season. There is TSO East and TSO West. Johnny Z is the bassist in TSO East and Johnny Lee Middleton is the bassist in TSO West.
80sMetallion 11 months ago
they sound great live but look rediculous. what the hell were those guitarists doing? i couldnt tell if they were trying to look intense or not.
zachbdude 1 year ago
Watching this today on my Bday :D 12/12/2010
richardconter 1 year ago
holy freaking crap that ending on the guitar is absolutely, without a doubt in the world amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brewill95 1 year ago
Is that Altenhoff playing bass? I would think it would be Middleton, but doesn't really look like him.
JustinPiano09 1 year ago
Coolest hair band in existance.
EverydayAdventures 2 years ago
hair band, wtf?
BoundWithDuctTape 2 years ago
I like how at the beginning the guitarists are all unified, then towards the end aren't sure whether to move around or not.
still a perfect performance though
BoundWithDuctTape 2 years ago
Thank you Savatage. Without you there would be no TSO.
nytnt4u 2 years ago 11
hey! 12/12/2006 was my 9th birthday!
richardconter 2 years ago
@richardconter okay?
zain2201 2 years ago
@richardconter happy birthday
grim99 1 year ago
@grim99 Thanks
richardconter 1 year ago
This soundstage doesn't do them justice. They are a lot more impressive than this tv performance shows.
sloopjohnb324 2 years ago
Alex Skolnick rules!
badpuppy1970 3 years ago
why di they call them selfs ORCHESTRA?
cakesniff 3 years ago
From Merriam-Webster...
Orchestra:
3: a group of musicians including especially string players organized to perform ensemble music -- they are just a very modernized orchestra. They also utilize traditional orchestras (usually from a local college or other orchestra) for their live shows.
blackshirej 3 years ago 3
ooh very nice!! i like it!
ahvaimusicom 2 years ago
because in orchestra, ppl use strings. piano is also a string from the inside
richardconter 2 years ago
I get so tired of seeing comments from people who can't spell, can't type correctly and have no apparent education.
Please let me help!
ORCHESTR: a group of performers on various musical instruments, including stringed instruments of the viol class, clarinets and flutes, cornets and trombones, drums, and cymbals, for playing music, as symphonies, operas, popular music, or other compositions.
Iamknowntobite 2 years ago
shut up regis
csmoke1234 3 years ago
the ending is soooo sick
spiketeen99 3 years ago
lol yea i would like them to play requim with all the flames and everything at mine...i got a while tho olny 13
saraevijo 3 years ago
I love these guys!! I want one TSOs cd's playing at my funeral. IDK why.
deepestblack99 3 years ago 2
I heard this song on the soft rock station
i love this song! ^^
catchthis1utube 3 years ago
great song
ENCORElefty 3 years ago
damn, 2 shows in my area and i'm stucked at work!
holyturd 3 years ago
dude that sucks. they come to my town like once a year so it sucks having to wait that long
CodyJ09 3 years ago
what kind of Guitar is Paul O Neil useing?
bluemangroupdude27 3 years ago
it'll never last. tso is on their 10th annual winter tour this year... you've obviously never been to one of their shows.
piercers 3 years ago
and your point is ? mr. Scrooge! aka acadia
cwagonorsorls 3 years ago
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I'm not sure I understand the attraction to these guys. It's just a gimmick, it'll never last unfortunately. Take some Christmas carols, throw in a few power chords on a guitar, and maybe write a few extremely simple tunes with some 'Xmas like' samples thrown in on the keyboard?
AcadiaGuitar 3 years ago
tso has been around for over a decade. not sure where you been
merlineous 3 years ago
It's a lot more than that. This video shows nothing of the actual live show. The light and pyrotechnics show alone is stunning, and they do have a lot more songs going for them than just Christmas carols (which I found out last night live)
CoopenhagenX 3 years ago
Give them some credit for doing more than slowing down or speeding up overplayed holiday songs like so many "pop" stars have-done (yawn at them)... I was Rock'n' to these guys even in the summer >-D
ionengine 3 years ago
the live show thats TSO does is absolutely stunning. I went to my 4th show two nights ago in Kansas City and it was amazing. The lights and the show they put on. They do more than just christmas carols. They had a CD entitled Beethoven's Last Night which was amazing. I don't understand how they are unattractive. It'll never last? please they have been around since the 90's. Get your facts right.
xoxoJonasForeverxoxo 3 years ago
Where is Anna Phoebe? I would have loved to seen her doing this with the guys.
RumsGone 3 years ago
she's on the west coast band, this is the east coast band
luthierjustin1 3 years ago
finally a decent version. jfc it's a christmas miracle.
camaroz28fatbuttgabe 3 years ago
who's the dude playin the guitar with the black hair???????? please tell me i gotta know- its important for the "snape fans"!! lololollol!!
TennesseeCS 3 years ago
Is that alex scholnick(however its spelt)that used to be in testament??looks like him
IbanezDemon 3 years ago
yeah thats him he's also in a jazz trio
peaceloverocknroll3 3 years ago
He's still in Testament as well.
roguelead72 3 years ago
Yeah !!!!!
ifasmile 3 years ago
whoop
fuckin great
Monst3rbeer 3 years ago
Brilliant!
EveryKneeShallBow 4 years ago
Fucking awesome song!
WickerMaster1 4 years ago
i would love to jam w/ them fools lol
metalheadmatt68 4 years ago
YES CLASSIC MUSIC!!!
alerock64 4 years ago
simple, yet sounds great
roas2 4 years ago 2
awesome sound
tanbobman5 4 years ago
And.. never judge a book by it's cover .. I suppose these fellas prove that :)
YarraValleyDiva 4 years ago
Amazing !! You look at them before they start to play and you would think they are about to come out with a death metal song... They have great tallent, their music is wonderful and inspiring :)
YarraValleyDiva 4 years ago
Some of them used to be in a metal band called Savatage. In fact TSO's most popular song "Christmas Eve Savatage" was originally done by Savatage on their Dead Winter Dead album over ten years ago.
BRUTUSbyFORCE 3 years ago
It's entitled "Christmas Eve-Sarajevo" not Christmas Eve Savatage.
danmccain 3 years ago
All three guitar players, the drummer, the bass player, and Jon Olivia were with 'Tage at one point or another
Cafferty's been with them on and off since 1989
Skolnik did one 'Tage album in 1994
and Petrelli's been with 'Tage since '96(Dead Winter Dead)
roguelead72 3 years ago
i luv these bitches!
21346554 4 years ago
awesome merry Christmas!
skinnymilk 4 years ago
FUK YEAH! TRANS RULES
Drummerthatismetal 4 years ago 2
TSO is so freakin' awesome! One of the best song's I've ever heard!
DSquaredDude 4 years ago 2
They seem to be enjoying themselves ;)
us71 4 years ago
This is the East group, for sure. No mistaking Alex Skolnick on the right, as well as Chris Caffrey.
otcconan 4 years ago
Great Job TSO!!!! I love this song!!!!
16542593 4 years ago
Man your lucky, I've never seen them in concert. ut i want to.
masterstephis 4 years ago
I saw them live in Chicago yesterday and I thank TSOVids for posting this clip. It is much cleaner in videio and sound quality than most of the other vids of TSO on youtube. That being said after seeing the whole band with the lights, pyro and incredible sound mix for an arenathe vid is for lack of a better term, sterile. TSO hey if your out there, I would pay good money for a concert video professionally produced by the band
chiwlf 4 years ago
They DID release a pro-shot video last year I believe.
Cygnus111 4 years ago
oh, i agree. i recently saw them in Rupp Arena, Lexington, KY, and it is AMAZING to see them in concert! it would be awesome to have some videos with all their concert lights, fire, etc, that really are part of the overall experience.
BlueMajesty94 4 years ago
I bought their Christmas CD and just love it! They are GRE-E-E-A-T! Just AWESOME! I first saw them on PBS.
hro1957 4 years ago 3
for all of us music ppl imagine the counting that must've gone on then staying together i mean its small but small enough to hear even the smallest mistakes this must have been nuts to practice
deltaclone23 4 years ago 2
Great music!
But what's with the long hair? Lol
tpopml 4 years ago
Last year,on a campus band show,we connected this with erotomania..The crowd went berserk!
universalmind38 4 years ago
i saw them today .... AMAZING .. i cant get over how awesome they are and this is my second time X D
rasorbladekisses3256 4 years ago
im seeing them dec. 8th XD
allisongoodcharlotte 4 years ago 3
I'm going to the Dec. 12 show, and if they play this (which they likely will), I'm going to have major wood. I am SO STOKED!
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
Do you know how difficult it is to play that ending? I sometimes jam with a friend (he plays lead guitar, I play bass) and we throw down prog-metal stuff and did just one chromatic section of root-major third-minor third down half-steps for an octave. We nail it, but he and I are just like that together. This is a four-note major scale descension through two octaves. Infreakingcredible.
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago 8
What do you expect from classically trained musicians...Specially with Al Pitrelli. =)
universalmind38 4 years ago
Well, we're classically trained too, and it may be easier for us than most people, but it's still a cool challenge to hit it in perfect sync.
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
Okay now try knowing what you're talking about Godslave.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
And you are?
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
What a bastard. Fool doesn't understand and so he accuses me of not knowing what I'm talking about. I've been in music longer than you've been alive, asshole.
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
Yeah you've been around music? Going to a music store doesn't mean you're "around music" you arrogant (and idiotic) asshat.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
Excuse me, but I've played and written music for 30 years. I don't even go to music stores, dickweed.
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
Never mind Farthur. He just sounds like a troll. People like that spoil the boards for everyone.
Spector2001 4 years ago
You've been writing nothing you idiot. Stealing opinions from others to make yourself look intelligent is really sad.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
I didn't steal anybody's ideas. And FYI, I have two college degrees in mass communication and classical Greek with departmental distinction in each. Makes you look like a two-bit beggar to call me an idiot now, huh?
This is my last post. You are hereby on **IGNORE**
GodslaveRocks 4 years ago
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Wow. Feeling the need to make up fictional degrees now? Yikes.
Arthur5041975 4 years ago
Just as I figured. A troll.
Spector2001 4 years ago
@GodslaveRocks wha?
gamerseye171 1 year ago
@GodslaveRocks
Again.... this time in English?
PianoFrenzyHD 10 months ago
in their band, yes it is necessary for them to have three guitarist. One plays lead, one plays Rhythm, and one plays melody. They have a massive orchestra when they play all over the country...so they need that many yes.
JMetalFan 4 years ago
\,,\(^_^)/,,/ rock on TSO!!!
bullyboy1863 4 years ago 3
the guy n the middle was pretty useless, did they really need 3 guitarists?
kakobird100 4 years ago
did they really need the violinists?
DarkFire346 4 years ago
yeah, gives it that orchestra sound, after all its called the trans siberian orchestra (pretend orchestra is underlined. but the middle guy was pretty useless, i bet they could done it with one guitarist.
kakobird100 4 years ago
i was being sarcastic...of COURSE you need the violinists as much as you need the 3 guitarists.
DeadRain879 4 years ago
why isnt the dude with the kramer baretta shredding?!?!
PhatOnion5150 4 years ago
This group is awesome. Just wonder if all who are standing there performing are the entire group? Or is there a larger group? Sometimes on TV shows, they play the instruments and have a back up song in the background playing?
omahablackrose 4 years ago
TSO NEVER fakes it. Never. It is truly them. Compare this to the actual Lost Christmas Eve album and you'll hear the difference.
And yes, there is a larger group. These are a few of the guys from their East Coast Group. But they have an entire East and West Coast group. A total of almost 200 people. That's how much of a hit they are, they have to split into 2 groups so they can cover enough ground
TSOGuru 4 years ago
I one time was going to use this song as an overlay for a slideshow of different Anime shots; but never got around to it! LOL *thinks about it*
omahablackrose 4 years ago
Mahalo nui loa for sharing this video...especially to joanb for letting me onto this. Aloha!
pfaufata 4 years ago
The east coast band is way better!!! but why is everyone fighting about this? theyre all in the same band and they all play the same songs... theyre all good in my book...if you ask me...
drpkckmurphys7 5 years ago
coolest song ever
PittsburghFAN621 5 years ago
The west is better partly because people are used to it. I think the same thing. I think the narrator is better, the singers are better, and that Al Pitrelli and Tommy Farese are better showmen. Then again my only experience of the east coast tour is seeing youtube videos.
Eliphion 5 years ago
Gotta love the swing picking on this song. Damn I'm gonna post some of my guitaring and keyboarding of this song at some point :D
RyoDiasflac 5 years ago
I would agree with the earlier comments that this performance is shite.
Decept 5 years ago
Silence! Decrepit one! These people are MASTERS of their instruments. Bow down now and repent!
mentallyurs 5 years ago
I've seen both east and west and they're similarly talented. It's probably due to the show, because both are incredible live.
islamatama 5 years ago
tso east is amazing, they're just not in their own element :)
peteyproductions 5 years ago
sorry, but TSO is so much better on stage.. I dont know if its TSO east or just the R&K show, but they sound reall really bad... They need to have pro videos of them on stage... I mean,, people in the Wiazrds in Witner cotnest played this song bettter then they just did right now... maybe im so used to tso west being so great.. i dont know... its hurt me to say this...
-Jamez
JamezDahl 5 years ago
I often wondered which troupe was better east or west. I would much rather have Al Pitrelli over Alex Scolinik as the guitar player...however watching all the youtube video's I think the east coast troupe is better than the west.
TSOfan 5 years ago
West is better than east sorry but its true. West is the CREATORS of TSO also Paul travels with West he came on stage at the Sacramento concert.
superstrikertwo 5 years ago
Really! The audio/video of the west coast shows to me just don't seem as dynamic as the east. How have you come to this conclusion that the West coast truope is better? Now I definitely need to make the trip out west to see the west coast troupe!
TSOfan 5 years ago
I have to stop looking at TSO comments cause it just pisses me off. Glad you all love the band so much. I do too, but shut up unless you know what you're talking about. The "CREATORS of TSO" is Savatage and its various members... including producer Paul O'Neill and studio keyboardist / arranger Bob Kinkel.
sthunder69 5 years ago
The EAST has the drummer Jeff Plate, guitarists Chris Caffrey and Alex Skolnick and keyboardist Bob Kinkel. Thats four "CREATORS". The WEST as I remember has guitarist Al Pitrelli, producer Paul O'Niell on guitar, bassist John Lee Middleton (sp?), and up until recent tours Savatage founder and keyboardist Jon Oliva. That's four "Creators". I personally wish all the "CREATORS" would do one tour. That would be the best, trust me. Or better yet... RISE UP SAVA-ARMY and bring on the 'TAGE!!!
sthunder69 5 years ago
Dude Alex Skolnick could out play Al Pitrelli with one hand tied behind his back!...Heh..Heh...
Alex Skolnick is a friggin guitar god!
mentallyurs 5 years ago
Doubtful...
TSOfan 5 years ago
omg i saw them in concert 2 times. we had awesome seats. the bass player(David Z) is so HOT! i have all of their autographs and sum other stuff from the concert.
msjdepp 5 years ago
Doubtful?...Umm..
Have you ever heard of TESTAMENT TSOfan?
Soooo much better than Metallica ever thought
about being and came oout at the same time from
the same town...
Just didn't get as big....
Alex Skolnick is a founding member!
mentallyurs 5 years ago
DUde do you even kno who these guys are ? That Is Paul Oneal in the center ( one of the founders of TSO) and Chris caffery on the left and Alex Scholnick on the right.
zgruven 5 years ago
Can't wait to see them in DC on Dec 30, the last stop in the 06 Tour. New meaning to the words "They Rock!"
DCMirage1 5 years ago