Garratts- Double AD 60 Class with Coal Trains near Newcastle. Quad steam at Zig Zag

[MrGetBusy69]

Love hearing the different beat of each engine, especially 5711 at the end!

[gordonS1942]

Between 1963 and 66 at 5.44pm Monday to Friday, W44 Broken Hill Ore Train hauled by a single 60 class would pass Rydal where I was a SWSA, and follow W28 Central West Express to Lithgow where the load would then be hauled to Sulphide Jct (Newcastle) by 46 class electrics.

W28 would pass W44 at Tarana where it had been put in the UP Refuge to wait.

W44 was a 'Time Table' train and ran second only to W28.

I had riden on a 60 class when returning LE from the shops in Sydney and as a Pilotman.

[ernietube1]

@gordonS1942

Thanks for information

[STEAMRAILWAYSHOP]

A wonderful sight to behold!

[Springbok42]

I have seen the AD&0's work from 1968-1974 between Muswellbrook-Singleton-Newcast­le as well as around the Fassifern area i.e. to the old Wangi power station and into Newcastle Harbour. This engines were used to pull the big coal trains. But these enginese were not on the line to Gosford. Only as far as Wangi. However, at that time class 38 engines were in regular use between Newcastle and Gosford.

[ernietube1]

@Springbok42

I think the AD60s were used between Gosford and Broadmedows before electrification.

I did see some on goods line Enfield to Rookwood Junction, when ?

They were replaced on country light lines by DE, mainly class 48s

Thanks for information.

[DC4916]

@Springbok42 The Garratts, simply known as the 60 class, lasted until early 1973 when 6042 made a special run from Broadmeadow into Newcastle to mark the "official End of Steam." A few days later it ran to Sydney on a tour and was subsequently withdrawn pending scrapping. It was saved and is still on the outskirts of Forbes, NSW, awaiting rescue by the Dorrigo Steam Railway and Museum.

In 1974, the only steam in NSW was on the SMR and the RVR, aside from limited Preservation.

[aussienscale]

@DC4916 FYI I actually saw 6042 & 6039 in Dorrigo today !! rescued and in good hands, hopefully to be run again very soon in the furure. For those interested their website is dsrm.org.au

Help out where you can to preserve some of Australia's greatest steam history

Cheers

[ernietube1]

@aussienscale

Thanks for information. I placed the reference at top of COMMENTS.

[GMCobh]

Thanks. I note the fire glow in the cab at just after 2:10

Some very impressive looking clouds of smoke and steam there.

Thanks. :)

[GMCobh]

Spectacular clouds of smoke. I also note the glimpse of the cab interior lit up by the fire at just after 1:10

Thanks.

[gmspeedfreak]

what was that signal back there? , uh green i think

[Chickenchicken46]

oh 57s and 58s where used along the southern route to junee and goulburn not just the blue mountains i love the 3 cylinders and days of steam and the belbin collection is the greatest tribute to these iron beasts

[savyisjosho]

That's teriffic Quality for an Old 1960 film :o

[Gunner812]

1970s??

[TWRH101]

These loco's were designed to go where other engines or loco couldn't go. They were mainly use in South Australia. But it would be interesting to see these loco's back in action. After all once these machines were fired up they came alive.

[ernietube1]

AD60s were used a lot initially in Western Division from Lithgow to Broken Hill. The massive 57s and 58s took on the steep Blue Mountain Grades from Lithgow up Zig Zag hill. Eventually the mountain section was electrified and the Western line uses diesel.

AD60s were then used for haulage between Gosford and Newcastle as in video.

[ernietube1]

Thanks for comment. Any tour in the Blue Mountains would show these monsters power. Something probably impossible to arrange would be hauling a coal train up the first section of the ZigZag.

Looking forward to their return,

Ernie Lee

[TrevorHeath]

These AD60's with the ++ on the front bunker near the number had a tractive effort of about 63,000 lbs. Most of the video was filmed in late 1972. It will be interesting to see what 6029 is allowed to do when it returns to service in 2011

[Isochest]

@TrevorHeath I'll look forward to seeing vids of 6029 back in steam:-)))))

[ernietube1]

Thanks.

I guess these locos used pulverized coal and most went straight though the firebox without combustion.

Coal was then relatively cheap at the colliery anyway.

[suctionhose]

not pulverised as in powder but normal size for engines. Giant lumps could block the auger. as soon as the stoker started feeding coal the black smoke erupted and unburned fines started raining in through the cab roof ventilator - so yes a lot went straight thru!

[suctionhose]

Re smoke: They have an auto stoker - a steam driven auger to feed coal up the firedoor and jets of steam to distribute the coal over the grate. Lots of coal going in = black smoke. I suppose you could play with around to get good combustion (light grey smoke) but I guess crews weren't that interested.

[ernietube1]

Sorry did not see last two comments until today. Lazy, I guess.

Last Garrett ran in Feb, 1973 to old power station at Wangi Wangi, new Newcastle. I guess coal was very cheap as NSWGR used second grade slaty reject coal as fuel. This is reason for huge amount of smoke issuing from these locos on steep upgrades.

Thanks for interest.

Thanks, Ernie

[ALCOPRO]

Further to Ernie's information if you wish to see the siding for the Wangi Power Station it branched from Awaba and the remains can be seen on the Eastern Side of the platform and one can basically follow the line into the bushland.

Good work Ernie.

[ernietube1]

I did the walk along rail bed from old Wangi Wagi power station to main line some 15 years ago. I guess it will be getting somewhat overgrown with scrub by now.

Thanks for comment. A better version of this is in Belbin's DVD which is still available. Not a plug.

[fjbutch]

Wonderful. !!...love the mournful cry of the whistles off in the distance..what year was this ?

[02nwilson]

Thanks for sharing, these locomotives are magnificent pieces of engineering. 5 star

[ernietube1]

I placed a reference in info column right side of video. Hope helps, thanks for interest.

[dieselman1988]

thanks for uploading this. i have always loved seam locomotives

[sognol]

Thanks for these gems. I was lucky enough to have camped on Hawkmount and at the gang shed at Fassifern and seen this action in the flesh. Once seen, never ever forgotten.

[jammyhartley]

THE POWER OF STEAM !! Thanks for posting this video ernietube1, If you personally took these videos, I envy you - to be present to witness such power,steam,smoke & beauty.

[ernietube1]

Unfortunately, no ! I have seen all of these locos in operation as a school boy. Also travelled as a passagener, mainly from Sydney to Goulburn where I had relatievs. This run used the Pacific 38 class, a very well respected steam loco. The 38 is still used for enthusiasts- see other videos like-

Steam Trains - 38's Over The Mountains (Part 2 of 6)

watch?v=9gZBHRBmUds

The only one I have videod is the 36 class-

3642 Tackles Gymea to Kirrawee Bank

watch?v=m7at3JseOow

Please enjoy.

[ernietube1]

Sorry, I got a nasty comment from an immature kid who I blocked. At the same time, I accidently erased a couple of decent comments. Thanks for comments.

[davfrancisau]

Exellent !

Thanks for posting them up .