why white first chose to move bishop e3 instead of g4 because black knight is acting as a interference between black bishop and g4 pawn so it is probably a good chance to move g4 why bishope3 intstead of g4
Hi, can somebody explain to me why these two players didn't, try to attack each other kings using their pawns taking into consideration that they are rooked on opposite flanks? It would seem to me the most natural way to go. I'm just a beginer so I'm sure there must be a good reason this. somebody enlighten me please.
I am curious if Qa1 at about minute 11:00 would be an acceptable move. After Qa1 the king must move to d2; then Rf2 forces the king to the center of the board. Is this a good or bad move?
@jamestw20 I am not sure about this but! As you said: 1) -Qa1 check 2)Kd2,Rxf2 check 3)Re2 ( 3)Ke3, Qe1 mate ) 3) -, c3 check if he don´t take and moves his king, then 4) -Rxe2 and 5)-,cxb2 So: 4)bxc3,Qxc3 check and now: 5)Kd1,Rf1 check 6)Re1,Rxe1 mate or: 5)Kc1,Rf1 check 6)Rd1,Qa1 so on Am i wrong? Anyone
I still insist that at 8:58 White should of played h6. If then Black plays Bh8 then White Rxg6+. If Black plays Bf6, then White plays f4 threatening f5. I will gladly play this game out from the position reached at 8:58 as White before white takes the 'g' pawn if you think you can provide a good defense against this attack.
Jerry I would argue otherwise when you said in the beginning variation that there are no balances other than pawn structures, white has a great semi-open file that he could use as a resource later in the game... also that was a great game though didn't expect the end result...
@renumeratedfrog I was going to correct you, saying it's called Petrov's. I then looked it up and discovered both are correct. Thank you for enlightening me, renumeratedfrog.
@JTChess I can't blame you... I'm also kind of split whether to say "off" or "ov" when saying Russian last names. Given that it's a transliteration from another alphabet, there's no fixed rule. Ov sounds more formal, but off is closer to the way it sounds, IMO...
Nakamura played this Petroff variation because he wanted a kingside attack with opposite castling. It was the only chance he had against Kramnik. Jerry, I really like the way you explain the game. Very didatic! Keep on the good work
What a game! I could hardly believe the sight of White's bishop and two rooks occupying the centre, but sort of hanging at the same time! An incredibly open and offensive play from Nakamura -- you have to be a grandmaster to be leaving your pieces to their own resources like this! :)
And the Queen sac combination is definitely something to be taken out (among all other things, of course!)
@bluntman007 Why? You need to establish who of the two is a better player? You want blood? :) They are both great guys doing an insanely superb community service to the world of chess, making fantastic instructional videos and videos of their online games as well. Why should we want to see them in rivalry? To me it's utter nonsense. Also, I think that it's not entirely civil to be challenging someone by proxy, so to speak. No hard feelings.
@barsorrro Not at all. It would interesting since both could do live commentary, and we could see the thought process from both. It would be purely for learning.
@bluntman007 Okay, I think I was snappish. I'm sorry. You are right--seeing a game with commentary from both sides would definitely be interesting and instructive. But I still think that it could turn into something of a sensational event which we'd also watch to see who comes better. I'm not sure if the guys would feel comfortable and have fun with it.
@barsorrro The fact that we would see and hear the thought process of two high ranking players would be a first I believe. As far as losing, both of them post games they do lose and I believe they are not so insecure even if one of them gets defeated. Besides, since they would be commenting and not concentrating fully, you really couldn't celebrate victory or sulk in defeat. That's all I proposed.
A draw with that many power pieces is kind of wierd to me...but I'm not a tournament chess player. I like how white controlled the center of the board with rooks no less.
not the most beautiful game of chess I ever saw, but it gives an opportunity to analyze a lot of variations to the moves. I guess they spent a lot of time thinking before moving
I swear Kramnik is ruled by FEAR. I constantly see him drawing perfectly exciting games. I wasn't very impressed by this game though- no real novelties or extraordinary strategies or sacs.... (easy to predict) Often times it seems they play SAFE moves and don't try to take risks or use more wild variations. (Hikaru usually does, but Kramnik not so much...) Thanks for sharing the game!
Damn, hate watching 1. d4 petroff drawnik get out with a draw, was so hoping for some naka preprepped tactical fireworks. Nevertheless, nice game and good try by naka. Good vid
@rbass311 what exactly am i wrong about? white expecting to lose? What are you claiming here? that Nakamura decided to take a draw even though he has good chances of winning? seriously? Black has a CLEAR winning idea, white does not.
this was a great game. i'm also a big fan of playing the petroff as black and despite its drawish tendency the games are usually pretty sharp and interesting just like this one.i didnt really agree with some of the comments personally...like...about giving the bishop up..i dont think that was forced positionally, i think white did that because he saw he could get interesting pressure on g6. the bishop actually WOULD be clearly better on e5 than e3. and furthermore the black d pawn is weakened.
during the repetition checks why didn't Nakamura play Ke2 after Qb4+? I didn't look very long but it seems like he still has a lot of threats and that Kramnik doesn't have anything right away. Was he low on time?
@itsMinuteMaid if h6 then Black plays Bf6, and cuts our the Rxg6+, and Black is actually better off. He has the dark B and white doesn't, so Black just comfortably stays where he is and lets the pawn just sit on h6 because with the dark B, g7 is covered and white has less play. Make sense? lol
Great job with the video
Metalchickenlittle 2 months ago
Nice video, it was very enjoyable with nice commentary!
crisis87 2 months ago
Awesome video. Very very nice explanation. Thanks!
Gusious7 2 months ago
why white first chose to move bishop e3 instead of g4 because black knight is acting as a interference between black bishop and g4 pawn so it is probably a good chance to move g4 why bishope3 intstead of g4
pulkitjainful 7 months ago
Nice video and explanation!
ALVARINBO 7 months ago
Kind of wimp way to end the game. White should've lost.
charlesfloyb 9 months ago
thanks a lot, this is the variation of the petrov I play as white
majorsromo 9 months ago
Hi, can somebody explain to me why these two players didn't, try to attack each other kings using their pawns taking into consideration that they are rooked on opposite flanks? It would seem to me the most natural way to go. I'm just a beginer so I'm sure there must be a good reason this. somebody enlighten me please.
C0LACHIT0 9 months ago
Using enemy unit as a defender is like in shooting or physicalk fight when you hide behind the person
ArrogantJew 10 months ago
Talk about two opposite styles... Nakamura and Kramnik... LOL!
Kramnik's games, while typically very technically sound, are often a snooze fest.
His endgames can be very instructive though.
WeinerschnitzeI 1 year ago
@WeinerschnitzeI "Kramnik" can almost be spelled using letters from "Nakamura"
ArrogantJew 10 months ago
very smooth analysis - 10/10
AlanWattParrot 1 year ago 4
i have no clue what in the hell anyone here is talking about
jaws5263 1 year ago
I love the way you explain whats going on and the other options to play. Thanks great video. :D
MrPazPax 1 year ago
petroff,petrow,petrov... who cares? dont be silly:)
hallotata 1 year ago
I think that the black king would be safer because of the king bishop.
Penguincw2 1 year ago
What's the difference between the Petroff Defense and the Russian Game?
Penguincw2 1 year ago
@Penguincw2 they are just names for the exact same opening. so.. Nothing.
Katu1337 1 year ago
@Penguincw2 the same thing
MrClosercloser 11 months ago
@Penguincw2 Russian game is just 1.e4 e5
ArrogantJew 10 months ago
Thanks for posting this video. Very well done.
SmyslovTHeSlayer 1 year ago 2
@SmyslovTHeSlayer Thank u
ChessNetwork 1 year ago 2
@ChessNetwork What's the time limit?
ICarnag3I 1 year ago
they must have continued!!! :( they ended it up in a draw when it was getting really interesting...
yarodi 1 year ago
I am curious if Qa1 at about minute 11:00 would be an acceptable move. After Qa1 the king must move to d2; then Rf2 forces the king to the center of the board. Is this a good or bad move?
jamestw20 1 year ago
iwasonceanalian 1 year ago
@iwasonceanalian
Forget it my bad
Paused to early and did not see the bishop take the pawn
iwasonceanalian 1 year ago
How many rounds are there?Anyone??
Penguincw2 1 year ago
Thanks. As always very clear and informative.
dumpnchase 1 year ago
Ninety-nine hundred videos! You're almost there to 100!
Penguincw2 1 year ago
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Penguincw2 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this vid. I appreciate it. Good analysis.
bendkafka 1 year ago
This game is a great demonstration of the often spontaneous nature of draws.
gotaids 1 year ago
I still insist that at 8:58 White should of played h6. If then Black plays Bh8 then White Rxg6+. If Black plays Bf6, then White plays f4 threatening f5. I will gladly play this game out from the position reached at 8:58 as White before white takes the 'g' pawn if you think you can provide a good defense against this attack.
itsMinuteMaid 1 year ago
Jerry I would argue otherwise when you said in the beginning variation that there are no balances other than pawn structures, white has a great semi-open file that he could use as a resource later in the game... also that was a great game though didn't expect the end result...
misteratoz 1 year ago
awesome
n3ssTijuanabound 1 year ago
at 6:17 why not just rxr qxr then re1 to occupy the file ? wouldn't that be a stronger continuation?threatning a backrank mate as well
lazimofo90 1 year ago
@lazimofo90 please comment in depth why the gm move was stronger jerry
lazimofo90 1 year ago
Another Petroff draw... Who would have guesed. :P
renumeratedfrog 1 year ago 12
@renumeratedfrog I was going to correct you, saying it's called Petrov's. I then looked it up and discovered both are correct. Thank you for enlightening me, renumeratedfrog.
JTChess 1 year ago
@JTChess I can't blame you... I'm also kind of split whether to say "off" or "ov" when saying Russian last names. Given that it's a transliteration from another alphabet, there's no fixed rule. Ov sounds more formal, but off is closer to the way it sounds, IMO...
renumeratedfrog 1 year ago
@renumeratedfrog if it helps..russian last names typically end in ов or ев в = v .It is correct to pronounce them "ov".
lazimofo90 1 year ago
@lazimofo90 No Russian pronounces the hard "ov"... It always sounds like "off".
renumeratedfrog 1 year ago
@renumeratedfrog Im russian.
lazimofo90 1 year ago
@lazimofo90 Then you should know that it's phonetically pronounced "off" and not "ov".
renumeratedfrog 1 year ago
Nakamura played this Petroff variation because he wanted a kingside attack with opposite castling. It was the only chance he had against Kramnik. Jerry, I really like the way you explain the game. Very didatic! Keep on the good work
bigalexblues 1 year ago
Wow, that game was going along very epicly and just ended in that draw...thanks for the video :D
dannyp136 1 year ago
Great commentary. Thanks!
Fantastic game. I still wonder if 23.Rhe1 could have been better for White. But I suspect Nakamura played the ''safe'' move against a Kramnik!
konigstephan 1 year ago
Excellent commentary yet again on an exciting game! Anyone who says all draws are boring are so wrong!
Fairfield1466 1 year ago
Wow... Thanks Jerry.. Great video and commentary. Watta Game...!!!
brucenunn37 1 year ago
What a game! I could hardly believe the sight of White's bishop and two rooks occupying the centre, but sort of hanging at the same time! An incredibly open and offensive play from Nakamura -- you have to be a grandmaster to be leaving your pieces to their own resources like this! :)
And the Queen sac combination is definitely something to be taken out (among all other things, of course!)
Thank you, Jerry!
barsorrro 1 year ago
Excellent commentary. I feel like I'm getting a lot out of it. Also, your "ums" are getting better. :)
dcrider8888 1 year ago
You gotta know when to castle,
Know when to hassle,
Know when to sacrifice,
Know when to run
Kenny Rogers Everybody
thankyou
drugaddict1235 1 year ago
Another perfect thumbs up rating
EricSmyth14 1 year ago
great vid
chumbucket843 1 year ago
We should have a mini tournament between Jerry and kingscrusher. Maybe have a Best of 5, 10 min games or something.
bluntman007 1 year ago
@bluntman007
I like Jerry vids more than king. But King has more variety and more vids.
supbrahs 1 year ago
@bluntman007 Why? You need to establish who of the two is a better player? You want blood? :) They are both great guys doing an insanely superb community service to the world of chess, making fantastic instructional videos and videos of their online games as well. Why should we want to see them in rivalry? To me it's utter nonsense. Also, I think that it's not entirely civil to be challenging someone by proxy, so to speak. No hard feelings.
barsorrro 1 year ago
@barsorrro Not at all. It would interesting since both could do live commentary, and we could see the thought process from both. It would be purely for learning.
bluntman007 1 year ago
@bluntman007 Okay, I think I was snappish. I'm sorry. You are right--seeing a game with commentary from both sides would definitely be interesting and instructive. But I still think that it could turn into something of a sensational event which we'd also watch to see who comes better. I'm not sure if the guys would feel comfortable and have fun with it.
barsorrro 1 year ago
@barsorrro The fact that we would see and hear the thought process of two high ranking players would be a first I believe. As far as losing, both of them post games they do lose and I believe they are not so insecure even if one of them gets defeated. Besides, since they would be commenting and not concentrating fully, you really couldn't celebrate victory or sulk in defeat. That's all I proposed.
bluntman007 1 year ago
A draw with that many power pieces is kind of wierd to me...but I'm not a tournament chess player. I like how white controlled the center of the board with rooks no less.
edward892 1 year ago
Thx Jerry!
ledgeleaper 1 year ago
One of the best chess channels on youtube, if not THE best! Another great video..
noyearold 1 year ago
Kramnik has to be one of my all-time fave players.
Ruxistico 1 year ago
not the most beautiful game of chess I ever saw, but it gives an opportunity to analyze a lot of variations to the moves. I guess they spent a lot of time thinking before moving
medra1980 1 year ago
This game is a classic exmaple of why no-one outside the chess world likes chess.
....draws shouldn't be allowed.
comface 1 year ago
@comface I thought it was a thriller. But that's just me.
herrahuh 1 year ago
@herrahuh Imagine a film where the good guy and bad guy have a huge shoot out and then shake hands and walk away at the end.
That's what just happened.
comface 1 year ago
I swear Kramnik is ruled by FEAR. I constantly see him drawing perfectly exciting games. I wasn't very impressed by this game though- no real novelties or extraordinary strategies or sacs.... (easy to predict) Often times it seems they play SAFE moves and don't try to take risks or use more wild variations. (Hikaru usually does, but Kramnik not so much...) Thanks for sharing the game!
rbass311 1 year ago
Another great video. You explain the moves so well that I don't have any questions to ask you! ;)
NottinghamEngland 1 year ago
Always enjoy your videos, thanks so much for posting this. There were enough positional fireworks to make it an interesting draw.
colourmegone 1 year ago
Damn, hate watching 1. d4 petroff drawnik get out with a draw, was so hoping for some naka preprepped tactical fireworks. Nevertheless, nice game and good try by naka. Good vid
m82artin 1 year ago
Why didn't black capitalize against white when the king went on a dark square? Was the option no longer available?
GoldSamuraiArmor 1 year ago
@GoldSamuraiArmor capitalize on what? elaborate...?
rbass311 1 year ago
Game was going somewhere when all of a sudden PTING!, get along now!
KevinR242 1 year ago
if white tried to prolong the game he could definately expect to lose.
idlenessss 1 year ago
@idlenessss definitely
teneight78 1 year ago
@idlenessss You are wrong.
rbass311 1 year ago
@rbass311 what exactly am i wrong about? white expecting to lose? What are you claiming here? that Nakamura decided to take a draw even though he has good chances of winning? seriously? Black has a CLEAR winning idea, white does not.
idlenessss 1 year ago
lame ending. That shit was getting intense.
AndyMH182 1 year ago 21
Couldn't white have done another move to prolong the game?
ltsjack 1 year ago
really appreciate all the effort you put into these, great analysis!
LostSalamander 1 year ago
great game, thanks for all "what if" variations Jerry, always appreciated!
majotnf 1 year ago
nice vid and commentation! i like it man keep it up
cleedrulez 1 year ago
Nice game. I like the petrov line that Nakamura played
KnightedMagi 1 year ago
Nice game.
fraudster111 1 year ago
this was a great game. i'm also a big fan of playing the petroff as black and despite its drawish tendency the games are usually pretty sharp and interesting just like this one.i didnt really agree with some of the comments personally...like...about giving the bishop up..i dont think that was forced positionally, i think white did that because he saw he could get interesting pressure on g6. the bishop actually WOULD be clearly better on e5 than e3. and furthermore the black d pawn is weakened.
idlenessss 1 year ago
Great video man
NumbFlynn 1 year ago
during the repetition checks why didn't Nakamura play Ke2 after Qb4+? I didn't look very long but it seems like he still has a lot of threats and that Kramnik doesn't have anything right away. Was he low on time?
mwGmeiner 1 year ago
@mwGmeiner If Ke2 then I Re8 and W can kiss any hopes for mate goodbye.
rbass311 1 year ago
@mwGmeiner I looked, and did think that after
1) Ke2 he has to play 1) -,Qc3 to prevent rook from taking on g7
but what about 1)-, b5
Then if 2)Rxg7, Qxc4 check 3) Qxc4, bxc4 4)Rh7 Check, Kg8
5)Re6-e7, some rock e8
and now what - is the pawn at a4 winning for black?
of cause now white can do repetition checks :)
iwasonceanalian 1 year ago
what's the time controls on this tournament?
vokuheila 1 year ago
On Whites move at 8:58, why not h6? Then once the Bishop moves, White has the perhaps devastating Rxg6+, putting Black in quite a predicament.
itsMinuteMaid 1 year ago
@itsMinuteMaid h6 Bf6 stops Rxg6+
sagacious00004 1 year ago
@itsMinuteMaid if h6 then Black plays Bf6, and cuts our the Rxg6+, and Black is actually better off. He has the dark B and white doesn't, so Black just comfortably stays where he is and lets the pawn just sit on h6 because with the dark B, g7 is covered and white has less play. Make sense? lol
rbass311 1 year ago
@rbass311 No, 'cause after Bf6 then White moves f4 then eventually f5, and black can't stop it now 'cause he has that trapped bishop.
itsMinuteMaid 1 year ago
8:44 just seems like he might have been looking if c3 could work with out losing the pressure on the h/g files.
PoketoMtg 1 year ago
Comment saying your guys' comments are terrible is better.
zUchihaCloudz 1 year ago
Fourth. I'm like the trinity plus one, beat that.
itsMinuteMaid 1 year ago
second comment is better
BrooklynRage32 1 year ago
first comment
MrShurikeninja 1 year ago