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  • yeah I have a 9 year old pc thats upgraded to maybe 1 or 2 years ahead...it sucks XD

  • Ever played the Killzone games? Those games have a small ass FOV. That's the only way they were even able to make the games look good.

  • @Shuriko that and shitty textures hidden by lightning and blur

  • Last question: Guild Wars 1. Yes, 1. Not 2. 2 aswell, but 1 already did it.

  • Last Question: try eden enternal you can change class in the game but you need to level them op individuely

  • In chat during the game:

    "TB im gonna OWN you." 

  • Regarding having fully customizable builds in MMOs: Fallen Earth does it very well. You spend points in skills, which unlocks the use of abilities at certain values. You can pick and mix whatever values of whatever combination of stats and abilities you think will give you an edge, up to a maximum value of points.

    Two weapon specializations, healing and crafting? No problem. Single weapon, high DPS and debuffing? Sure. Crafting, 1 weapon and being extremely adept at escaping danger? No problem.

  • FFXI is a perfect example of a game that did away with the need for alts (mules excluded of course). You could eventually have everything available on your main character but restricting your ability to change 'on the fly' seems to be a nice middle ground imo.

  • Ragnarok Online...so many builds.....

  • uploaded on my birthday :)

  • @RavenAshe runescape is not that bad actually if you take out the grinding at high levels

  • TB - Thank you so much for responding to that particular gentleman's email about the person complaining about the difficulties in MMO's. It sickens me that people think that they need to have handouts and refuse to put work towards getting items, even if that challenge is finding a specific way up a cliff, like in Rift. It's the exact reason why I quit WoW. People just keep expecting handouts. =/

  • Thank you for talking about a narrow FoV giving you headaches. That finally explains why certain games physically hurt my eyes. Not knowing why was always maddening.

    I also hate large guns. Makes it feel less like I'm holding it and more like it's attached to the side of my face. One reason I will not play Halo.

  • "In which case please go and throw yourself down a well" Made my day XD

  • Classless MMO = The Secret World, comes out in a couple of months i think. was bit dissappointed that it was absent in this mailbox.

  • second question: FFXIV has it already.

  • @TotalHalibut i wonder from last weeks topic u said every aspect of a MMO should be fun or dont play it. i think this is an impossible ideal nothing is always fun no matter wat people can get annoyed with any manner of thing to do with any aspect of any game (any lol) i mean i have recently become a raid leader of my WoW guild and i have found the behind the scenes work ridiculous between us we spend 20hrs a week setting up 4 every raid and not every second is fun however the raids r (NO SPACE)

  • Last Question: Darkfall

  • There's plenty of classless MMOs, they're just niche/not with big publishers. To name a few UO, Runescape, Haven and Hearth, Mortal Online, etc.

  • I want Wish back..

    That game was so promising and I was very sad when it was eventually canceled.

  • I do just need to say that in SWToR that you don't have a minimum with every advanced class. Sentinel/Marauder and Gunslinger/Sniper only have DPS skill trees. If you just mean base class, then there are classes that have a choice of all three, Bounty Hunter/Trooper and Inquisitor/Consular.

  • charity? idiot keep the money

  • @normanknight100 not everyone is selfish, the majority are, but some people actually want to help people...

  • Last Question: Project Entropia

  • Certainly datacrons are not mandatory to get, at least for now. However, if you compared this game to WoW, which you should, higher end guilds tend to ask their players to do these kind of things to get that little extra power. For example, I was JC/BS in WoW, as a dps, and when I applied for a guild they actually asked me to switch, which with levelling and everything would have taken hours upon hours and lots of gold.

    I am not saying it's too hard, and yes, that guy is a moron.

  • For some odd reason, I have this vague memory that MW3 ran at 1080p on the PS3. Either that or I'm thinking to hard :/

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  • Marauder is pure DPS

  • Last question

    Mabinogi uses that System

  • Last question: Runescape, Ultima Online, Eve online and Darkfall.

  • Are you going to play Dust514 when it is out?

  • i have 17 inch monitor =p

  • Last question:

    Well... you do have Mabinogi, but... meh...

  • So basically, TB does not want to be a WoW mage, he wants to be a GuildWars2 Mage. ;)

  • @abyschan Too bad GW2 doesn't have a Mage ;-)

  • actually, maurauders and snipers are pure dps

  • CROWNER TURN OFF YOUR MIC

  • FF11, One char, multiple "jobs". Can unlock everything.

  • EvE online being the only MMORPG where you can in theory unlock "everything" the only limit is the time... I think Final Fantasy Online had a system where you could switch between classes and level them seperate aswell.

  • sith marauder is a all dps class btw

  • 12:51

    Nicholas

    Try Eden Eternal. It is a rather good MMO that allows you to freely switch between all classes and rank them up separately with some base stats preventing you from dying immediately from playing a relatively new class. I've had plenty of fun with that title and may in fact return to it sometime soon.

  • Last Question: Tibia?

  • for nicholas, eden eternal has an swappable class system

  • What does DPI stand for?

  • @Kmaster02

    Dots Per Inch, or something like that, it basically affects mouse sensitivity. High sensitivity is great for things that require more precise control and quick reflexes.

  • Cool, TB respects Captain Sparklez.

  • Finalfantasy both XI and XIV allowed you to play pretty much every class with a single character. XI only didn't allow you to work on all crafting skills. XIV allows you to do both all crafters and all classes.

  • The guy wanted the Skyrim style of mmo should look at Darkfall.

  • this game lets me tink of unreal turnament 3

  • Last Question:One of the first MMO's (The first?) - UO (Ultima Online)

    Now I feel old :-)

  • @bobtron2000 crap, now I have to look that up >_>

  • @bobtron2000 And the not as awesome follow-up of UO, Darkfall Online

  • Sniper is a pure dps.

  • One of the things that i hate about MMO is huge stats. Health more then 10k, dmg more then 4k. Then whats a point in having +1 str which gives you 100 hp, when you have 20k health, and minimum dmg is like 1k. Thats why i play moba, where stats makes sense.

  • Wrong a Sith Marauder is pure DPS in TOR

  • What are you talking about? there are dedicated servers for MW3 on PC.

  • u forgot the mmo mortal online, they used the skyrim thing before skyrim was out

  • @oxane240 in wow it took forever to learn a weapon skill up to the max, in GW 2 it takes a couple of mobs

  • Last Question: Runescape. Just sayin'.

  • @00Krohnos I was thinking that as well ^^

  • @00Krohnos i dont think that has the depth he is looking for though

  • @00Krohnos

    And darkfall.

  • @00Krohnos A high res RS would be pretty BA, even though it is the definition of grinding.

  • @00Krohnos I have played that game for years and it sucks... its sad because everything in the game except gameplay is so great, but then the gameplay comes and completely murders all the fun.

  • @00Krohnos LOL i was gonna make the same comment but when i scrolled down i saw that u already beat me to it ;)

  • @00Krohnos Are you just saying there's no variety in the endgame, or..?

  • @00Krohnos Derp. Guess you were actually referring to the guy's "Why can't we have an MMO that x"

  • @00Krohnos Was thinking the same thing ^^

  • @00Krohnos Maybe he meant a classless MMO that isnt awful?

  • @00Krohnos I loved that game! it did so much right :)

  • @00Krohnos true

  • In response to the third question: I could be wrong, but doesn't Eden Eternal do something like that? You unlock each class as you level up, then you can level them individually? At least, from my limited experience of that game, it's something like that.

  • Well, EVE online has nationalities, but to be honest they don't effect the player as much. The only thing restricting you is how much "cash" and how long you intend to play the game.

  • @DaemonGal69 they have a EU version now

  • Star Wars Galaxies, the older Star Wars mmo, which was shut down, sadly, allowed you to change class with a credit amount.

  • Of course WoW values exploration - there are achievements! =P

  • I don't understand at the second letter.

    While the guy was complaining about a challenge, TB was explaining about exploring/extra stuff garbage. What was the message there?

  • @goruu TB was explaining what the holicrons were for the people that haven't played The Old Republic. After he did that he talked about how it was kinda a throw back to WoW how players would be lazy and demand that they get everything without having to work for it. In this case doing a little exploring. In short what TB was saying was 'you don't work for the shinny [i.e. exploring for the holicron] then you don't get the shinny'.

    If you're still confused try listening to it again Its agood point

  • @voiceofbooks No the one who sent the letter was complaining about how a player talking about the content should not be too difficult. Not about extra stuff garbage like exploring. However, even so, it is a bad point. The extra stuff garbage is not fun and should not be in the game.

  • @goruu Yes. But the player that was complaining was complaining about how getting the holicrons was to hard. Which of course is not true they're pretty simple to get. Just do a little exploring. And so you don't like stuff (like holicrons) that encourages exploration by giving little tib bits of of Lore, and sometimes stats boost? You're welcome to you're opinion but I personally like them. I find them as a nice touch and enjoy them when I find them. I do a little work and I get a little shinny.

  • @goruu If u want better items(stats) you must work for them, don't just ask programmers to give them to you.

  • I want to play the game tb is playing just so i can constantly die and skydive everywhere.

  • On what TB said about laziness, in Call of Duty MW3 (thanks for the FOV mod btw) i recently unlocked gold camo for my gun. So many people complain tht it's too hard to get, and that's just a stupid argument.

  • I know that Dromund Datacron you were talking about. Was the only one in the area to get it but i told everybody. =D

  • Letter at 13:20. See eve online

  • @vidsvids69 Exactly! I've thought about same (specially because I'm playing EvE)

  • There is a freetoplay MMO JUST like what that guy said. Eternal Eden.

    You unlock all classes as you do and lvl them sepretly. : )

  • There is pure dps class in swtor, at least in advanced classes. Marauder and sniper.

  • a one word response to question 3: EVE

  • Larger weapons to hide the world that is already loaded behind it... Really???

  • Feel stupid for asking but what is the song he uses at the end?

  • Dont killl me, but runescape allowed you to do pretty much any and everything

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  • @TotalHalibut You said that all classes in swtor can be dps + another (Healer/Tank) but that's wrong. One of the Sith Warrior advanced classes (Marauder I belive) and one of the Imperial Agent advanced classes (Oprative I belive) can only be dps. And ofcourse the Republic mirrors aswell.

  • @oddlenZ The imperial agent class is sniper that can only be dps, operative can be a healer.

  • @oddlenZ all classes have dps + another role. not all advanced classes do but all the base classes do

  • Wuth class choosing lineage 2 did an interesting thing, at start you choose fighter or caster, then at level 20 you get to choose spec( for fighter as much as i remember it is heay armor meele or light amor meele or ranged, at level 40 you get to choose futhter classification ( heavy armor guy gets : tank o dps) (light armor: meele dps using speed, or ranged) and so on with castrs , this really gives chanse to choose

  • Culling scene mesh due to a gun model in an FPS seems pretty counter productive. Why exactly do you think developers are using larger guns for this reason?

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  • Anyone know how to get Games for Windows Live to update correctly with Windows XP? -_- I really wanna play Section 8: Prejudice, but I can't... I start up the game, sign into live, asked to download an update, get a damn error. I've opened ports, made sure all the correct things are installed (.net 3 and 4 and whatnot), and I'm getting sick of this crap.

    And as for the MMO bit with a single character doing everything? FFXI. Had it. 1 Character could do everything. Could switch between any.

  • The difference in graphics between a pc and console isn't all that much especially if you use an hd tv. You yourself have commented on the fact that the difference is hardly noticeable . I don't think you should slander the graphics on consoles so much , they really aren't bad at all.

  • @LouisKing995 The difference is pretty big actually

  • could not agree MORE about your whole answer to the datacron question. I, for one, am loving the challenges in SWTOW.

  • Wait.

    'He was kind enough to not campaign in the last one so that we were able to win.'

    What?

    So he was like: 'If I compete here you won't win, TB, so I'll just join the next one.'

    What?

    Did it really happen like that or is that just a misunderstanding? 'Cause I don't no Cap'nS that way...

  • @Som3on3p3rson *know

  • @Som3on3p3rson I think it was more the case of, he didn't participate because TB did. That way, they can win first prize twice and give it all to charity, instead of 1 first prize and 1 second.

  • I really liked the way FFXI did the class system, you had one character, you have the basic classes unlocked at the start, and advanced classes you earn through quests at level 30(? forgot), and changing class was no harder than going into your house and switching your main and sub class

  • In regards to the 3rd question: didn't FF11 have the ability to change your class at will?

  • You were talking about weapon models and I want to ask everyone, did anyone ever get the sniper scope for the shotgun in BFBC2? It was the biggest scope ever and put onto a shotgun which was big to start with...... I couldn't see what was infrount of me half the time.

  • The Secret World is an MMORPG with no levels and no classes. You have 500 skills, and you can learn them all if you wish. It's actually looking pretty cool, imho.

  • 7:53....why I love TB xD

  • FOV should be changeable. But if others can't change it - and you can - then you're cheating.

  • 30"..? That isn't a monitor, that's a frigging TV!

  • Actually, Sith Marauder and IA Sniper (and their Republic counterparts) are pure DPS classes in SWTOR.

  • FOV 65 is just absolutely re-freaking-diculously small. I won't ever play those games. You get hit half the time while not seeing a thing. That's just fucked.

  • FOV 110 is not extreme. Back in the day of Quakeworld (Quake1 optimized for network), FOV 100-120 was normal and that was on a 4:3 17" monitor, not even a widescreen 24"+

    FOV 80 and 90 still feels limited to me.

  • FFXI did the "all class unlocked" with it's Job system. If you spent the time you could play every Job on 1 character. Didn't cost you to change, just went home and chose a different Job. Granted  you still had to level the Jobs up since they all started at 1.

  • @sourcexx he already said he was gonna. ^^

  • Hey TB. Could you give recommendations on the Weekly deals/Daily deals on steam or/and gamersgate on the mailbox. I think i speak for everyone with this idea!

  • TB, your rant on Datacrons and effort is a huge part of why I love you. Really, man. If only everyone had half your common sense, the world'd be a better place :D

  • Nicholas has never heard of Eden Eternal have they? =P

  • As a PC player, it was very difficult to situate myself with the 65 FOV in MW after spending years in 90 FOV. I complained a lot about this at the time I was playing and getting accustomed. It's a decision they made, and it has real impact on the way the game is played. If you don't like it you don't have to play it. Would I have changed it (early on) if I could? Yes absolutely.  But it would have altered the game completely, and on a level not all of the other players have agreed to.

  • Nicholas: Put skyrim in an mmo. job done.

  • Isn't The Secret World going to be exactly what the guy in the last question was talking about? As far as I understand there aren't classes in that game, you just build your characters the way you want.

  • @Mothhive no...gw2 is gonna be like that

  • @ampdgmr No, it's not. Don't get me wrong, I'm a massive fan of GW2, it is my number 1 anticipated game, but you don't have the same freedom to create a character the way The Secret World is offering. It is exactly the type of system the last letter was asking for, total freedom to use whatever skills you want. In GW2 you don't have set roles, but your weapons and class limit you to certain skills. That's not a bad thing, but it's not near the level of freedom that was being discussed.

  • @Mothhive

    true but The Secret Worlds has AWFULL animations it's really sad D:

    it would be an awesom game.

  • @Mothhive Yeah, from what I've seen, that's exactly what it is. You choose your character and that's you. Nothing hard about it, but lets see how TSW works out before we judge it the perfect system.

  • Not every class in TOR is hybrid. Marauder can olny be a dps.

  • Jedi sentinel in TOR is pure dps, there is no way to heal or tank.

  • Star Wars Galaxies Pre-NGE was amazing in terms of non-class play. Dozens of professions running on different kinds of experience, where you can have multiple professions (I don't recall how many, I want to say 4.5? mastered). So if you wanted to be a bounty hunter/teras kasa master who can heal a little from the medic tree, you can do so. Alts were still viable after unlocking Jedi, or to have people with different skills without releveling.

  • I think Nicholas pretty much described Mabinogi as far as class creation goes. It's been around since 2004 in South Korea, 2008 in North America, and 2010 in Europe. My point being, Second Generation MMOs have been around for quite a while.

  • @Penguinator3ooo Agreed on that, Mabinogi is exactly what Nicholas is hinting (Although it's a cute "anime" game, so it might not appeal everyone.)

    Although, it's quite funny how it's been out for such a long time, still alive and expending, yet ignored. :P

  • If fov=advantage, then wtf is 3d vision. Modifying video fidelity is a personal prefrence you nunce....( to the author of first question)

  • CAN WE PLEASE. Stop talking about. Starwars.

  • TB I must argue the gunslingers are only DPS no healing or tanking available. so not every class but most

  • To the last question,

    FFXI lets you level all the jobs on one character and change jobs quickly

    Ultima Online lets you level whatever skills you want

  • TB plz can u play total war?

  • For that final question, I would suggest looking at a game that goes by the name of 'The Secret World' over on Rock, Paper, Shotgun.

    Upcoming MMO that looks very cool and may well have classless gameplay. Read the articles, looks amazing! Would be cool to hear TB's views on the game as well, it has been met with some scepticism that it will actually deliver what it promises, but the RPS guys seem pretty pleased with it :]

  • @darthveda ..

    I wonder if PC gamers are facepalming at your comment right now..

  • @DarkVoidize Yes... yes I am

  • @DarkVoidize We are.

  • @darthveda

    FOV smaller than 90 is unacceptable in PC gaming for various reasons and you're an idiot.

  • @TheGorrack Unless your me. Stupid small moniter, can play at 50 FOV without a problem really.. though 60+ is nicer.

  • @darthveda So one should definitely get headaches because it's more challenging? Interesting concept there.

  • The fact that SWtOR has 3 full difficulty levels for dungeons. This is a great thing. Also, the only pure damage dealer in SWtOR is the Sniper class.

  • @JittersCaffeine not runescape but something that lvls in the same way

  • TB on the king of the web site (see what I did there) I got to the point where I was about to earn an extra ten votes to the ten bonus votes that I already have, but it made me spend the bonus votes before allowing me to spend the daily votes to allow me to get 10 more bonus votes, it would appear that they don't want people utilising the kind of tactics you have in mind.

  • Check out Final Fantasy 11 and 14.. They have "class" systems, where you can switch.. Lineage 2 also have this

  • @Xhaledk

    you know that in the Final Fantasy series they had changeable classes since Final Fantasy III ... that was 1990

  • @gnabaer Yeah i know m8, but i was talking about MMO's.. Those 3 games were the first to come in mind.

  • there are some free mmorpg's that have that system where you can speck everything but i don't know the names.

  • What does a datacon look like?

  • @HellsingRuler It looks like a small box that shines partially in flashy colours. As an example, for sith inquisitor you can find first one close to where you get the daily elite quest in first area, behind a wall.

  • @HIMortalis ahh, so i dont take the location differs from class to class?

  • my pc is 7 years old :( epic sadpandaface

  • I understand what you're saying about FOV settings. When I play TF2, I find that with a high FOV setting, it does allow you to see enemies flanking you, but it takes the focus away from what's staring you in the face, and not to mention the way enemies seem further away. 90 is just about the best FOV I've found,

  • @pokemon2539

    I personally like Quake Live 130fov more than the 90 of TF2. Maybe it's because of my low sensitivity(~32cm/360 degrees in-game in both Quake Live and TF2) and the unwillingness to move my mouse around all the time just to check places. 90 is about the minimum I can play with like that -_-

  • swotr is not by far the first mmo to put the advanced class system in place, for example nostale ( some game i played yonks ago) did that, dragons nest did that, example the archer could go acrobat or sniper, so you know it isn't really a new idea, but i AM a bit dissapointed this isn't in more games. Technically WoW also has this feature with the talent tree, as it is kind of similar as you can spec into something more specific. But anyway, i do enjoy these videos :D

  • 13:50 The Secret World does pretty much that (i hope thats how it was called)

  • Not that I'm complaining but has "Kinda Neat" become TB's catchphrase as of late?

    Its not a bad thing but I'm just saying...

  • it might be work to find but its not fun why would it exists i want to get stats in a game threw fun

    i do not want to be bored for stats

  • Final Fantasy 11 and 14 both allow you to create a character and swap your class/sub-class at your house. You still had to level them and gear them separately but it could all technically be done with 1 character. And I believe there are a few pure DPS classes in SWTOR, one being Sniper, I only have 3 DPS specs not tank/healing sadly.

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