8:35 Also, the track of chasing the monkey through the reed field is a work of art. The boss music is also a huge improvement over the last game, which I feel is just bland by comparison (To both the normal boss and the Zoda boss; I like the Normal Boss music best)
Wait I didn't realize this before... Argonians? Where else have I heard that before? Hmm... Yeah I know, Elder Scrolls. I'm NOT hating on Elder Scrolls and I know that wasn't a blatant attempt to steal anything from Star Tropics but still, isn't that copyright infringement? I guess Nintendo doesn't hold anything against Bethesda since Star Tropics wasn't well known at the time. Or is it the other way around?
@necrogenesis1981 Hmm, interesting... You know, I always thought that the Argonians in the first place were based on Kryptonians. Argon is a noble gas like Krypton. They both came to Earth in a space pod to save their race. Finally look at the names of the people who destroyed their planet: Zod and Zoda. They just added an a lmao!
@necrogenesis1981 They either didn't trademark the name or they lost the trademark. Most likely the former. And it doesn't really matter either because they aren't selling the product based on that name, and the Argonians in the elder scrolls are a completely different premise.
I didn't hate ST2 as much as you do, but you make some really great points. It just didn't seem right for being a sequel, like something was just off about it. I missed the tighter controls & reasonable story line of the first, and every death felt unfair! Long live the yo-yo!!!
The only gripe I had about this game was the controls. Far too loose to be enjoyable and the dungeon and platforming sections felt too much like a chore. Everything else you had a problem with I can pretty much forgive.
never really enjoyed Zoda's Revenge, but it wasn't really that bad. I think he's right that it's main problems are that it is completely inferior when compared to its predecessor.
I always enjoyed the silliness of the plot and the various gags like the pizza. The game did a great job of not taking itself to seriously to create a more light hearted atmosphere to contrast the more serious chapters. Plus we all know the first game can be accused of this too. (bananas in your ears?). As for the music, and I may be the only person out there that thinks this I guess, but I think its amazing. I actually have alot of the dungeon themes on my Ipod. I respect your opinion though.
I totally agree with you on the control. It almost seems like they scrambled at the last minute and added diagonal movement and more fluid jumping to appease critics of the first one. It definitely takes getting used to and I agree, I wish they had retained the control scheme from ST1. But ST2 is still a really fun game. The last NES game I bought brand, spanking new. :)
he can beat one megaman game in a few hours with no trouble and beats most of the bosses on the first try and memorizes all the weaknesses. in fact there has been hardly any of the bosses in the series that have given him trouble. anyways i'm done talking. goodbye.
anyways, startropics and startropics to me rule. the classic nes games were always fun to me, mostly megaman and mario. and to be honest, when my little brother plays megaman, it means total destruction to every single enemy in the megaman games. he rocks at megaman. in fact, i think he broke a record on megaman 10 on one of the timed stages. i'll have to check.
but overall, it was one of my all-time favorite nes games. and no offense to derek but that different kids on different islands is not a good idea because the argonians would be all that was left of their race so they would want to stick together because they would be like family to one another and because they wouldn't want anything to happen to each other. in most stories of planets blowing up and survivors going to another planet, the survivors usually would stick together.
to be honest to everyone here, i didn't really care about the gameplay differences when me and my brother played zoda's revenge. sure, the differences made it kinda hard, but i basicly only cared about the storyline. i thought it was pretty cool being sent to King Arthur's time and Sherlok Holmes' time. most of all, they brought back c-sland and it looked almost exactly the same. and they brought back the monster snake there as a skeleton that shot flame lasers.talk about nostalgia with c-island
Hey Derek. You showed a short clip of Phantasy Star on your review. I just wan't to ask you. Did you enjoy Phantasy Star? Great game and a classic in my eyes. I laughed so hard at the end.
@mopbrothers HVGN is the Anti-AVGN, he's not trying to be like AVGN- he certainly pays homage to him, but I'd say that HVGN is a totally different animal- at least he's not doing the exact same thing all the time like the Irate Gamer- even here, HVGN didn't curse (much) and brought his opinion forward in a calm, collected manner.
The platforming parts in the second game are difficult enough to make you wake yourself up and pay as much attention to them as required, in order to successfully jump across. It's not as bad as stopping for a split second while turning and moving to another direction in the first game (e.g. "Come on come on come on turn turn turnOHHH I'M DEAD!").
I agree with the whole moving freely part makes it a bit off. Like when you jump and you move slightly to the left or right and you miss the platform and then die. And the story was a tad lame, going back in time and stuff. So I really understand your argument.
Startropics is a great game but the only problems i had with it was the hub world and the damn code! When I got the game it didn't have the manual so i didn't know the code til internet advanced and looked it up. Oh and it was hard.
With Startropics 2 I couldn't beat the 1st level because of some puzzle crap i couldn't understand when i was little. I figured it out now 13 years later. The platforming does sucks ass. AND THE YO-YO IS GONE! :( I think the best part is the 1st level song.
I agree with you. This game does nothing but cause me intense rage due to it's cheap deaths and lack of heath pick ups. I can't believe I finished It. I feel like I wasted my time andI want my $2 back.
@eishikibahamut I bought a wii just for twilight princess. I loved almost every moment of the game. Except for hunting down the tears of the twilight and restoring that rod you get in the temple of time. Other than those two flaws it a worthy addition to the Zelda series.
I feel as though I wasted 60 hours of my time and $300 if I count the game and the wii combined since they were both huge disappointments. The only thing I liked about Twilight Princess was The Spinner and the water temple, which I might have only liked in contrast to how bad the rest of the game was. I actually avoided the ds games for a while because of it, but oddly enough when I actually got to playing the ds ones I liked them, though my standards have dropped since tp
I agree with you. This game does nothing but cause me intense rage due to it's cheap deaths and lack of heath pick ups. I can't believe I finished It. I want my $2 back.
... i hate to say it but i played Z.R. before i played startropics... i hated the fact that it ended in a partly clifhanger. but i still like the game though ^_^
I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing the HVGN or anything, but the gameplay you showed made it look like you weren't trying. In fact, looked like you were purposely running into enemies to get hurt...
Again, I'm NOT bashing you HVGN! Love your videos! (:
@TheOrangeDart I think he was doing it on purpose just to show the hit detection and the non blinking time/invulnerability. I could be wrong, but if I were doing a game review and talking about it, I would want to show why it is so bad.
I thought it was pretty enjoyable, but it might have been better to put it on the SNES since said system was already out.
Not saying I didn't like it on the NES, but putting it on the previous gen when the next gen console was out probably contributed to the 'death' of the series.
Dude give this guy a break. its his opinion if you don't like do you own little review and post it on you tube. We all have are own opinions. I never play star tropics, but I just love hearing about video games I never play. Thanks Happy Video Game Nerd your awesome. Also big rocket knight adventure fan.
@applemetatin1 Seriously, is this all you can do, leave the same fucking comment on all the HVGN's videos, can't you at least have a little more class with it. Jeez, even the Irate Gamer's fan's are just as boring and uninteresting.
@gigawarman12 It's a fucking shame to be a gamer and be associated with the irate gay-more, I feel like such an ass when I have to bitch and moan about what exactly is wrong with the irate gamer. How old are you kid, 10? 11? 12? It's an insult to the gaming community.
@gigawarman12 Not to mention he uses Game Genie on nearly every game he "reviews." If you can't beat some of these games without cheating, something is wrong. They aren't like the games now where they change each time you turn on the console. It's just memory that can get you through most of these NES games. And then he acts like he is amazing for known the Konami code for the Contra review...okay, if you don't know the Konami code by heart, you are not a true retro gamer.
@enswann10 lemme be honest, I'm not too much of a retro gamer. But any real gamer can tell you that you don't need a fucking cheat device on a final fantasy game. Ya he used an action replay or something on the DS version of FFIII. I've never needed any cheat devices for any of the 6 final fantasy games I've played. the Irate gamer is just a fucking idiot.
Rule 19 of the Internet: The more you hate something, the stronger it gets. Dude, seriously. Get a life. If you don't like the Irate Gamer, don't watch his videos.
I just dunno why IG fans and AVGN fans can't get along?
Because IG is a talentless asshole who can't research the games he plays, is SCARED of 'hard games', and doesn't fucking shut the fuck up. He's just trying to be AVGN WAYYY too hard.
@urmamma64 First, so what if he doesn't like hard games? It's his shows, and he shares his opinions like he damn well pleases. Didn't he say he LOVED Contra anyways? Doesn't shut the fuck up? There's a pause button, stop the video. Talentless? That is based on opinion. I think he's decent. Even if he did copy him before, he's original now, like Kool-Aid Man, Spot, and Irate Gamer Neo.
Rule 19 of the Internet is relevant.
If you don't like his shows, don't watch them, idiot.
@TheCineMatt Agreed, It's very annoying now that when I think of playing a Contra game I can't help but think of that ass wipe complaining of how 'The Code' is missing from every game. But since he can't handle criticism and turns off the comments, no one can tell him if he can't play Contra without a code he need not be playing any Contra game.
Most of the time when it comes to video games the sequels are almost always better then the original. I mean i don't know many people who would choose the original Super Mario Bros over Super Mario Bros 3, the original NES Zelda over Ocarina of Time, or Metroid over Super Metroid.
Another reason I love HVGN -- great love for Metal Storm, Guardian Heroes, Crystalis, StarTropics but not Zoda's Revenge. HVGN articulated the controls in this game very well. Not only did I like the stop-go chess-movement, but the new controls ARE too loose. I am not against the faster action; I loved it in Crystalis, but Crystalis also had bigger platforms. I do take umbrage to the PS comparison; even the non-FM PS (released around Dragon Warrior) sounded better DRAGON WARRIOR sounded better.
The one thing that's really great about Derek is that his reviews are always complete, through, content-rich and concise, while being humorous at the same time. This might be a negative review, but I still love it.
Heaven forbid there isnt a yo-yo! Zoda wasnt a big part of the game to be the title? What about the Legend of Zelda, it's mainly all about link. And just because the platforming is different than the original and no longer a checkerboard feel makes this game bad and is suddenly a deal breaker? Fail. Cant move when hit by an enemy? Then don't get hit, simple as that. Also, things are suppose to be a little bit different in a sequel. Music sounds fine to me same w/ graphics. Terrible review.
I completely disagree with people saying that this should have been on the SNES. It wouldn't have been as classic as it is! Also if it was on the SNES they Toploader would have failed even worse than it has and become even more rare. And Derek has one, so he owes a bit of respect for it I guess.
Thanks for explaining your point. I played both games when they came out; the loose control didnt appear as a flaw to me at the time. Since I used to play quite a few games inbetween the two star tropic, my mindset had already evolved from the tile controls to the free controls.
I can't agree with you about the chicken nugget or the pizza, but the rest is spot-on.
The character designs are not nearly as good as they were in the first one. Strange, because the director of the second game was the character designer of the first!
Actually in the first Startropics I got killed lots of tries by trying to get out of the way but because of the stiff controls. Your instinct with these types of games is when you get hit: you know you have to get away fast so when I get hit I keep tapping the D-pad hoping to get away BUT the stiff controls I don't move even when I'm already facing that direction. You also move slow against the enemy's in the first Startropics and that becomes a problem later on. I think both games are good.
I actually liked this better than the first StarTropics. I found it to be convenient how I could even move diagonally, and Mike moved a lot faster in this.
Derek i think you owe a small amount of respect for zodas revenge as nintendo made it for the NES to keep the toploader alive and you seem to really rely on it.
Recently James Rolfe made a video called "Top 10 movie sequels that aren't as bad as everyone says" I think James or someone should do a list of the top 10 Video Game sequels that aren't as bad as everyone says. I have a feeling is someone does do such a list that both Zelda II and Mario 2 will both be on it..
It's true that the music in ZR isn't as good as in ST. And I also agree about the bland color palette.
But you're off the mark with your other arguments. BOTH games have control issues that lead to cheap deaths. Remember in ST where Mike would commit to the next square location as you were trying to jump, leading to instant pit-fall death? And while you rightly point out the short blink time, you show yourself getting hit on purpose (or just sucking) to "prove" your point. Weak!
@DerekKnisely ...And I think what's really been forgotten in this discussion is the boss battles. I think that, overall, the bosses are actually a bit more creative and diverse in their patterns and strategies in ZR, than in the original ST.
Me to I enjoy the video and both games look nice with some bad bits but I really feel sorry for HVGN to review this over rage fans.
I'm a rocket knight adventures fan but if HVGN said the sequals were fucking horrible I would agree with him cause most sequals never top the original game.
Be happy it has a storyline. Take for instance the very first LoZ, we all know that you go from dungon to dungon fighting bad guys, but there is nothing telling you how to get from dungon to dungon. Just walk around until you find it.
Dang, I wish I would have noticed this upload sooner. Your original Startropics review is what made me subscribe in the first place.
I have to say, I'm in agreement with you on this game as well. They tried to much to "fix" what was supposedly "broken" and lost most of the charm that was in the first game.
Using Phantasy Star as an example for Master System music quality is like saying that every game on N64 was at least as good as Goldeneye. Man, the Phantasy Star cartridge had extra hardware and significantly higher retail price, it had better be worth of at least two Master System games. When it comes to music, it was great stuff from a great artist Tokuhiko Uwabo that beats much of the stuff released on the 16-bit systems, it had clear melody. PS was a pinnacle point, nowhere near the average.
Yes, there is nothing more glorious than watching the Happy Video Game Nerd get angry. Anwyay, great review. I like that you review it instead of just bitching about it. Not an easy thing to do.
lol. i feel ya. I never even heard of this game as a kid, and I played A LOT of nintendo. i mean, my summers were filled with NES games, and this game never touched my pin connector.
You know what's odd? The AVGN wears a clean, white shirt while the HVGN wears a crap brown one. Not to insult the HVGN, but is that how you would want to be remembered? Review games with perspective, criticism, and a crap brown shirt. Niice. XD
I found this review to be more of an AVGN style in the sense that half of your complaints were just mindless nitpicking. The only concrete complaints were the loose controls and lack of "blinking time". It was a strange experience seeing you be another angry video game nerd. I DO NOT suggest you ever try it again, because it just does not work for you. Lol, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy your other videos. You have talent, my friend! :)
Phantasy Star had great music, but not the most impressive for the system. Check out some later, euro games and also the JP version of the system which had FM sound.
@ssjsolidsnake yeah, now go do that man. y'know for a happy video game nerd,he sure does abuse zoda's revenge "alot" and is more of a moron vgn. moron = hvgn
You know, I love Zoda's revenge. Even more then first first game, I found the movement made combat much more fun, also That dungeon music is so awesome!
It's a good video as always, but for a decent game. It took me forever to find out about this game, something you might not mention here is that the title "Zoda's revenge" kind of throws it off from a startropics sequal.
The game once again was decent, if and ironically because I loved the first one so much. I just wanted to see how everything would play out.
Close Captioning: "You know I've been making deals for a while now and Michael from the start was to more or less bring GAY MARRIAGE together by sharing with these are my theory is that I.."
Oh man, I know. I had that on while watching a Phil X video (Phil demonstrates guitars) And it started trying to transcribe Phil's guitar playing into words.
Turn on Closed Captions for this video. Transcribe Audio.
"You know I've been making deals for a while now and Michael from the start was to more or less bring this gay marriage together by sharing with these are my theory is that I thought were overlooked or under appreciated."
I've always considered it a bad sequel, and I've never even got that far into the original. It is less difficult, it suffers from annoying gameplay mechanics, and the whole storyline is quite off-putting in itself. I could handle this game alot better, if the storyline wasn't what they made it into with the famous people cameos and dumb objectives.
I suspect Star Tropics 2 suffered from being released during the last days of the NES, with the focus being on the 16-bit systems and gearing up for the 32-bit ones. Parts of Star Tropics 2 does feel rushed and or underdeveloped.
There's still one question I still don't get from Your Startropics Review,On that Review You Mention That if Zoda's Revange Was Release on the SNES,it would have been awesome,But the Game would probably have been the same way if it was on the SNES,Only with 16-Bit Graphics and other stuff to make it HQ On the SNES,So What did you mean by that?
@FireWing404:Right,Right True,And you might wanna try pressing the reply button,because I won't be able to know that you comment to me unless you press the reply button to my comment,but anyway,That is true,But still it might have been the same,But True that it would have been better on the SNES since it was on a Better Advanced Hardware System. [At the time around the 16-Bit Consoles]
@FireWing404:Yeah,That's Why I'm confused because the game would have probably been the Same Game but with Advanced Graphics on the SNES,The HQ Music and Sounds,and other stuff,but that's it.
Phantasy star for the win jk
petman515 23 hours ago
Hey man!! I've been watching your videos. You're pretty good at reviewing!! Subscribed!!
fh666 2 weeks ago
he forgot "...and most of them stink"
ku62jo62 3 weeks ago
I feel pretty stupid right now, but could someone please tell me what Master System game that was?
MadroxMonoxide777 3 weeks ago
@MadroxMonoxide777 i believe it was fantasy star but im not too keen on the knowledge of master system
just2pissyouoff 3 weeks ago
@just2pissyouoff *Phantasy star
just2pissyouoff 3 weeks ago
8:35 Also, the track of chasing the monkey through the reed field is a work of art. The boss music is also a huge improvement over the last game, which I feel is just bland by comparison (To both the normal boss and the Zoda boss; I like the Normal Boss music best)
ImAJ00guy 3 weeks ago
Wait I didn't realize this before... Argonians? Where else have I heard that before? Hmm... Yeah I know, Elder Scrolls. I'm NOT hating on Elder Scrolls and I know that wasn't a blatant attempt to steal anything from Star Tropics but still, isn't that copyright infringement? I guess Nintendo doesn't hold anything against Bethesda since Star Tropics wasn't well known at the time. Or is it the other way around?
necrogenesis1981 1 month ago
@necrogenesis1981 Hmm, interesting... You know, I always thought that the Argonians in the first place were based on Kryptonians. Argon is a noble gas like Krypton. They both came to Earth in a space pod to save their race. Finally look at the names of the people who destroyed their planet: Zod and Zoda. They just added an a lmao!
ImAJ00guy 3 weeks ago 2
@necrogenesis1981 They either didn't trademark the name or they lost the trademark. Most likely the former. And it doesn't really matter either because they aren't selling the product based on that name, and the Argonians in the elder scrolls are a completely different premise.
romansparky 3 weeks ago
@romansparky Yeah I know, it makes no difference either way. I was just pointing it out because I found it funny.
necrogenesis1981 3 weeks ago
Please, do not compare that ear hurting music from star tropics II to Phantasy Star.
PS has at least three times better music IMO. Sure it's not perfect, but then again, if you stop and think about it, is there such a thing as perfect?
Perfection is just another form of opinion, and everyone's got different opinions, and thus they have different perception of what is perfect.
Pyhankoski 1 month ago
His best point was at 6:45
ConsoleCleric 1 month ago
I didn't hate ST2 as much as you do, but you make some really great points. It just didn't seem right for being a sequel, like something was just off about it. I missed the tighter controls & reasonable story line of the first, and every death felt unfair! Long live the yo-yo!!!
wonkabar69 1 month ago
The only gripe I had about this game was the controls. Far too loose to be enjoyable and the dungeon and platforming sections felt too much like a chore. Everything else you had a problem with I can pretty much forgive.
JZekis 1 month ago
never really enjoyed Zoda's Revenge, but it wasn't really that bad. I think he's right that it's main problems are that it is completely inferior when compared to its predecessor.
krazyzark 1 month ago
Hey what happens if somebody doesn't have a asshole.
sniper2174 2 months ago
@sniper2174 Then you have no opinion...but we are all assholes. I mean we all HAVE assholes.
franklyfranklee84 2 months ago
The music sounds like a drunk dude made it.
sniper2174 2 months ago
this may sond stupid but i was kindof glad that they got rid of the yo-yo =(
okyou678 3 months ago
I always enjoyed the silliness of the plot and the various gags like the pizza. The game did a great job of not taking itself to seriously to create a more light hearted atmosphere to contrast the more serious chapters. Plus we all know the first game can be accused of this too. (bananas in your ears?). As for the music, and I may be the only person out there that thinks this I guess, but I think its amazing. I actually have alot of the dungeon themes on my Ipod. I respect your opinion though.
Campingcam 4 months ago
Butt holes on hogs is essential to their well-being.
Just,saying.
umbalaba 5 months ago in playlist Flere videoer fra lophatjello
Is the guitar intro you do in the beginning from something?
capnstak 5 months ago
@capnstak Sounds like MM2 Wily's Theme...
Re1Mu2R3 4 months ago
hahah.. the story and gags are so ridiculous.. i love'em :)
luishomeroremohsiul 6 months ago in playlist The Official HVGN Playlist
zodas revenge was shit compared to star tropics...its really garbage...and the music ist gruesome!!! but the more i love star tropics:)
His0ka 6 months ago
okay, sure Startropics 2 was the worst, but...what's the point? you gotta give Zoda's Revenge some good points.
SSCode09 6 months ago
In nintendo vs capcom, we should have Zoda has the final boss or a playable character.
redhoodx98 6 months ago
I totally agree with you on the control. It almost seems like they scrambled at the last minute and added diagonal movement and more fluid jumping to appease critics of the first one. It definitely takes getting used to and I agree, I wish they had retained the control scheme from ST1. But ST2 is still a really fun game. The last NES game I bought brand, spanking new. :)
poshko41 6 months ago
he can beat one megaman game in a few hours with no trouble and beats most of the bosses on the first try and memorizes all the weaknesses. in fact there has been hardly any of the bosses in the series that have given him trouble. anyways i'm done talking. goodbye.
ultranx2010 7 months ago
i meant startropics and startropics 2. stupid typos.
ultranx2010 7 months ago
anyways, startropics and startropics to me rule. the classic nes games were always fun to me, mostly megaman and mario. and to be honest, when my little brother plays megaman, it means total destruction to every single enemy in the megaman games. he rocks at megaman. in fact, i think he broke a record on megaman 10 on one of the timed stages. i'll have to check.
ultranx2010 7 months ago
but overall, it was one of my all-time favorite nes games. and no offense to derek but that different kids on different islands is not a good idea because the argonians would be all that was left of their race so they would want to stick together because they would be like family to one another and because they wouldn't want anything to happen to each other. in most stories of planets blowing up and survivors going to another planet, the survivors usually would stick together.
ultranx2010 7 months ago
to be honest to everyone here, i didn't really care about the gameplay differences when me and my brother played zoda's revenge. sure, the differences made it kinda hard, but i basicly only cared about the storyline. i thought it was pretty cool being sent to King Arthur's time and Sherlok Holmes' time. most of all, they brought back c-sland and it looked almost exactly the same. and they brought back the monster snake there as a skeleton that shot flame lasers.talk about nostalgia with c-island
ultranx2010 7 months ago
What game was that on the Master system?
Zylo587 7 months ago
@Zylo587 both startropics and zoda's revenge:startropics 2 are for the nes(nintendo entertainment system).
ultranx2010 7 months ago
@ultranx2010 He showed a game on the Master System while talking smack about the music.
Zylo587 7 months ago
Hey Derek. You showed a short clip of Phantasy Star on your review. I just wan't to ask you. Did you enjoy Phantasy Star? Great game and a classic in my eyes. I laughed so hard at the end.
Eatmyassproductions 7 months ago
@Eatmyassproductions Crap i'm sorry about that. I forgot to put " I laughed so hard at the end of your review cause of that asshole line"
Eatmyassproductions 7 months ago
I completely agree with you!
legocustoms12 8 months ago
Why are you trying to be like the AVGN? Get a different name!
mopbrothers 8 months ago
@mopbrothers Why are you trying to be an internet troll? Get a different hobby!
TheOrangeDart 8 months ago 8
@mopbrothers HVGN is the Anti-AVGN, he's not trying to be like AVGN- he certainly pays homage to him, but I'd say that HVGN is a totally different animal- at least he's not doing the exact same thing all the time like the Irate Gamer- even here, HVGN didn't curse (much) and brought his opinion forward in a calm, collected manner.
mcFreaki 8 months ago
@mopbrothers Dude, you realise that the AVGN and cinemassacre are affiliated with HVGN and RetroWareTV.
techn0FTW 6 months ago
@aprilgold Masahiro Sakurai recently announced that he is planning another SSB title, but he won't work on it until Kid Icarus: Uprising is complete.
1983parrothead 8 months ago
The platforming parts in the second game are difficult enough to make you wake yourself up and pay as much attention to them as required, in order to successfully jump across. It's not as bad as stopping for a split second while turning and moving to another direction in the first game (e.g. "Come on come on come on turn turn turnOHHH I'M DEAD!").
1983parrothead 8 months ago
I agree with the whole moving freely part makes it a bit off. Like when you jump and you move slightly to the left or right and you miss the platform and then die. And the story was a tad lame, going back in time and stuff. So I really understand your argument.
IvanRiseAgainst 8 months ago
Startropics is a great game but the only problems i had with it was the hub world and the damn code! When I got the game it didn't have the manual so i didn't know the code til internet advanced and looked it up. Oh and it was hard.
With Startropics 2 I couldn't beat the 1st level because of some puzzle crap i couldn't understand when i was little. I figured it out now 13 years later. The platforming does sucks ass. AND THE YO-YO IS GONE! :( I think the best part is the 1st level song.
RustyHutto1 8 months ago
I agree with you. This game does nothing but cause me intense rage due to it's cheap deaths and lack of heath pick ups. I can't believe I finished It. I feel like I wasted my time andI want my $2 back.
Jono1874 9 months ago
@Jono1874
Just imagine how I felt after getting the wii with twilight princess.
eishikibahamut 8 months ago
@eishikibahamut I bought a wii just for twilight princess. I loved almost every moment of the game. Except for hunting down the tears of the twilight and restoring that rod you get in the temple of time. Other than those two flaws it a worthy addition to the Zelda series.
Eatmyassproductions 7 months ago
@Eatmyassproductions
I feel as though I wasted 60 hours of my time and $300 if I count the game and the wii combined since they were both huge disappointments. The only thing I liked about Twilight Princess was The Spinner and the water temple, which I might have only liked in contrast to how bad the rest of the game was. I actually avoided the ds games for a while because of it, but oddly enough when I actually got to playing the ds ones I liked them, though my standards have dropped since tp
eishikibahamut 7 months ago
I agree with you. This game does nothing but cause me intense rage due to it's cheap deaths and lack of heath pick ups. I can't believe I finished It. I want my $2 back.
Jono1874 9 months ago
I can accually fling a yoyo like that
The212b 9 months ago
3:48 Those stairs look EXACTLY like the ones in the 1st Gen Pokemon games
gamenerd4444 10 months ago
... i hate to say it but i played Z.R. before i played startropics... i hated the fact that it ended in a partly clifhanger. but i still like the game though ^_^
4myeyesonly100 10 months ago
I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing the HVGN or anything, but the gameplay you showed made it look like you weren't trying. In fact, looked like you were purposely running into enemies to get hurt...
Again, I'm NOT bashing you HVGN! Love your videos! (:
TheOrangeDart 11 months ago
@TheOrangeDart I think he was doing it on purpose just to show the hit detection and the non blinking time/invulnerability. I could be wrong, but if I were doing a game review and talking about it, I would want to show why it is so bad.
enswann10 9 months ago
I thought it was pretty enjoyable, but it might have been better to put it on the SNES since said system was already out.
Not saying I didn't like it on the NES, but putting it on the previous gen when the next gen console was out probably contributed to the 'death' of the series.
FrozenTundra88 1 year ago
Wow this was quite intresting to watch, I gotta say though not to be tough
but HVGN is like a combination of AVGN and Fungo, We know why he's like
AVGN but why Fungo, well simple Horror games especially the D series though
Fungo only cover D. Still this is some great shit, I love all things Nostalgic.
Hellooo666 1 year ago
@shadowgeyser Gotcha!
excalibunny 1 year ago
@shadowgeyser How was he bullied?
excalibunny 1 year ago
Dude give this guy a break. its his opinion if you don't like do you own little review and post it on you tube. We all have are own opinions. I never play star tropics, but I just love hearing about video games I never play. Thanks Happy Video Game Nerd your awesome. Also big rocket knight adventure fan.
BaltoMusicVideo 1 year ago
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what a stupid irate gamer rip off
applemetatin1 1 year ago
@applemetatin1 r u rtarded or r u just fucking blind
shadowseeker629 1 year ago
@applemetatin1 Seriously, is this all you can do, leave the same fucking comment on all the HVGN's videos, can't you at least have a little more class with it. Jeez, even the Irate Gamer's fan's are just as boring and uninteresting.
gigawarman12 1 year ago
@gigawarman12 Please don't feed the trolls.
Zylo587 1 year ago
@gigawarman12 It's a fucking shame to be a gamer and be associated with the irate gay-more, I feel like such an ass when I have to bitch and moan about what exactly is wrong with the irate gamer. How old are you kid, 10? 11? 12? It's an insult to the gaming community.
gigawarman12 11 months ago
@applemetatin1 Let me count the ways:
1) He's a ripoff (Not just of the AVGN, but about 10 other different game reviewers)
2) His acting is horrible
3) He's too predictable
4) His non-rip-off jokes are fucking atrocious
5) He gets half of his shit wrong in his reviews
6) most of the time of the time, the irate gamer just sounds like he doesn't even give a damn
7) His main complaint is "This game sucks cuz it gets harder the further along you go"
8) He's a graphics whore
gigawarman12 11 months ago
@gigawarman12 Not to mention he uses Game Genie on nearly every game he "reviews." If you can't beat some of these games without cheating, something is wrong. They aren't like the games now where they change each time you turn on the console. It's just memory that can get you through most of these NES games. And then he acts like he is amazing for known the Konami code for the Contra review...okay, if you don't know the Konami code by heart, you are not a true retro gamer.
enswann10 9 months ago
@enswann10 lemme be honest, I'm not too much of a retro gamer. But any real gamer can tell you that you don't need a fucking cheat device on a final fantasy game. Ya he used an action replay or something on the DS version of FFIII. I've never needed any cheat devices for any of the 6 final fantasy games I've played. the Irate gamer is just a fucking idiot.
gigawarman12 9 months ago
@applemetatin1 LOL
chosentonessournotes 11 months ago
@applemetatin1 The Irate Gamer is a bad acting graphics whore, who dosent like hard games.
TheCineMatt 10 months ago 20
@TheCineMatt
Rule 19 of the Internet: The more you hate something, the stronger it gets. Dude, seriously. Get a life. If you don't like the Irate Gamer, don't watch his videos.
I just dunno why IG fans and AVGN fans can't get along?
Bittergamer1886 1 month ago
@Bittergamer1886
Because IG is a talentless asshole who can't research the games he plays, is SCARED of 'hard games', and doesn't fucking shut the fuck up. He's just trying to be AVGN WAYYY too hard.
Also, what about his scams? Yeah.
urmamma64 1 month ago
@urmamma64 First, so what if he doesn't like hard games? It's his shows, and he shares his opinions like he damn well pleases. Didn't he say he LOVED Contra anyways? Doesn't shut the fuck up? There's a pause button, stop the video. Talentless? That is based on opinion. I think he's decent. Even if he did copy him before, he's original now, like Kool-Aid Man, Spot, and Irate Gamer Neo.
Rule 19 of the Internet is relevant.
If you don't like his shows, don't watch them, idiot.
Bittergamer1886 1 month ago
@TheCineMatt or you could just say he sucks donkey balls
mstrchldrn 4 weeks ago
@TheCineMatt Agreed, It's very annoying now that when I think of playing a Contra game I can't help but think of that ass wipe complaining of how 'The Code' is missing from every game. But since he can't handle criticism and turns off the comments, no one can tell him if he can't play Contra without a code he need not be playing any Contra game.
GirGasm 4 weeks ago
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what a stupid irate gamer rip off
applemetatin1 1 year ago
@applemetatin1 what a stupid 12 year old Irate Gamer fan
gigawarman12 10 months ago
Most of the time when it comes to video games the sequels are almost always better then the original. I mean i don't know many people who would choose the original Super Mario Bros over Super Mario Bros 3, the original NES Zelda over Ocarina of Time, or Metroid over Super Metroid.
HelloFade2 1 year ago
No caption person the came is called "Star Tropics 2:Zoda's Revenge" not "Start Rabbit Stew:Soda's Revenge"
HelloFade2 1 year ago
Another reason I love HVGN -- great love for Metal Storm, Guardian Heroes, Crystalis, StarTropics but not Zoda's Revenge. HVGN articulated the controls in this game very well. Not only did I like the stop-go chess-movement, but the new controls ARE too loose. I am not against the faster action; I loved it in Crystalis, but Crystalis also had bigger platforms. I do take umbrage to the PS comparison; even the non-FM PS (released around Dragon Warrior) sounded better DRAGON WARRIOR sounded better.
kakakakaemer 1 year ago
StarTropics is to the 1987 Punch-Out!! and Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode.
Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II is to the 1994 Super Punch-Out!! and The Mafat Conspiracy.
MHMemeDoubleYourFun 1 year ago
Alternate endings:
1.- Opinions are like assholes, there's a reason why you hide yours in public
2.- Opinions are like assholes, they produce shit
3.- Opinions are like assholes, don't bend over for that soap
4.- Opinions are like assholes, suck mine
5.- Opinions are like assholes, Zoda's Revenge sucks IMO. Sue me
6.- Opinions are like assholes, tight when virgin
7.- Opinions are like assholes, they hide between two mountains
Anything else?
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mahamayamaliga 1 year ago
The one thing that's really great about Derek is that his reviews are always complete, through, content-rich and concise, while being humorous at the same time. This might be a negative review, but I still love it.
Gretgor666 1 year ago
Heaven forbid there isnt a yo-yo! Zoda wasnt a big part of the game to be the title? What about the Legend of Zelda, it's mainly all about link. And just because the platforming is different than the original and no longer a checkerboard feel makes this game bad and is suddenly a deal breaker? Fail. Cant move when hit by an enemy? Then don't get hit, simple as that. Also, things are suppose to be a little bit different in a sequel. Music sounds fine to me same w/ graphics. Terrible review.
Jelley0 1 year ago
@Jelley0 you really didnt get his point...
89Wonders 1 year ago
I agree with what you said in the Startropics one review about this game, you didn't have to make a video about this.
People made you make this video and its dumb
Brian12327 1 year ago
I completely disagree with people saying that this should have been on the SNES. It wouldn't have been as classic as it is! Also if it was on the SNES they Toploader would have failed even worse than it has and become even more rare. And Derek has one, so he owes a bit of respect for it I guess.
thenintendogamer 1 year ago
I think it's still a great game but I do agree that some of the parts are bland, and also lacking when compared to the original game.
I played the first dungeon again a few days ago and the dungeon layout seemed extremely lazy. There were a lot of empty rooms.
I still think the Topdown platform aspect is genius though.
The Time Traveling aspect was pretty cheesy, but I still like this game a lot in the end.
ShimmySystem 1 year ago
Thanks for explaining your point. I played both games when they came out; the loose control didnt appear as a flaw to me at the time. Since I used to play quite a few games inbetween the two star tropic, my mindset had already evolved from the tile controls to the free controls.
Birfhum 1 year ago
I love this review. I hate the fact that the checker board factor is gone. It took a while to get used to the controls but when I did it fit.
ChopSticksGaming 1 year ago
I can't agree with you about the chicken nugget or the pizza, but the rest is spot-on.
The character designs are not nearly as good as they were in the first one. Strange, because the director of the second game was the character designer of the first!
BoltMitch 1 year ago
@BoltMitch
Ironically, the McD's Chicken Nugget would probably survive hundreds of years being buried in the sand.
kakakakaemer 1 year ago
Great Review!
SpikedMocha 1 year ago
WHERE IS NEKBONE?!?!?!
bamapagedesign 1 year ago
That expression also goes "Excuses are like ass holes, everybody has one and they all stink"
gryphster2 1 year ago
This is like the simpson's episode where Ned Flanders finally loses it
Anbercrombie 1 year ago
Actually in the first Startropics I got killed lots of tries by trying to get out of the way but because of the stiff controls. Your instinct with these types of games is when you get hit: you know you have to get away fast so when I get hit I keep tapping the D-pad hoping to get away BUT the stiff controls I don't move even when I'm already facing that direction. You also move slow against the enemy's in the first Startropics and that becomes a problem later on. I think both games are good.
Supersourcrout 1 year ago
i know how you are with this i had same experience with rocky and rambo i think both the new movies were as bad as your zodas revenge
but people seem to like them .. so its me against alot of people on that opinion
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
I actually liked this better than the first StarTropics. I found it to be convenient how I could even move diagonally, and Mike moved a lot faster in this.
PRdude 1 year ago
they must make a wii ware startropics 3 with the old control mechanic.
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
this is definetly the game that destroyed this saga :(
daracenak 1 year ago
Mike in the next Smash Bros! Make it happen!
PickPikmin 1 year ago 15
StarTropics 2 In close captioning:Star shop issue, Senator bentsen XD
ZEROGAME53 1 year ago
Remember, oppinions are like assholes, everyones got one. LOL
MrILOVEBEINGPURPLE 1 year ago
Derek i think you owe a small amount of respect for zodas revenge as nintendo made it for the NES to keep the toploader alive and you seem to really rely on it.
thenintendogamer 1 year ago
13 dislikes r they hi?
DyslexicGamer 1 year ago
No Nekbone? :(
Immafirinmahlazer 1 year ago
that was a sick megaman redition at the begining
LeufinWaffle 1 year ago
What the heck are Argonian's anyway? They look like vulcan vampires.
HelloFade2 1 year ago
Recently James Rolfe made a video called "Top 10 movie sequels that aren't as bad as everyone says" I think James or someone should do a list of the top 10 Video Game sequels that aren't as bad as everyone says. I have a feeling is someone does do such a list that both Zelda II and Mario 2 will both be on it..
HelloFade2 1 year ago
well zelda 2 and mario 2 were also very different from theyre originals so its not that weird for nintendo to make a sequel different
zeldamaster52 1 year ago
@zeldamaster52 Mario 2 no, Mario USA yes.
TeitiTT 1 year ago
It's true that the music in ZR isn't as good as in ST. And I also agree about the bland color palette.
But you're off the mark with your other arguments. BOTH games have control issues that lead to cheap deaths. Remember in ST where Mike would commit to the next square location as you were trying to jump, leading to instant pit-fall death? And while you rightly point out the short blink time, you show yourself getting hit on purpose (or just sucking) to "prove" your point. Weak!
DerekKnisely 1 year ago
@DerekKnisely ...And I think what's really been forgotten in this discussion is the boss battles. I think that, overall, the bosses are actually a bit more creative and diverse in their patterns and strategies in ZR, than in the original ST.
DerekKnisely 1 year ago
OOO kid Icarus love that game.
hardcorerocc 1 year ago
@shadowgeyser
Me to I enjoy the video and both games look nice with some bad bits but I really feel sorry for HVGN to review this over rage fans.
I'm a rocket knight adventures fan but if HVGN said the sequals were fucking horrible I would agree with him cause most sequals never top the original game.
xRocketzFighterx 1 year ago
@xRocketzFighterx
Even if they werent horrible ?
MetallicMushroom 1 year ago
Be happy it has a storyline. Take for instance the very first LoZ, we all know that you go from dungon to dungon fighting bad guys, but there is nothing telling you how to get from dungon to dungon. Just walk around until you find it.
jmaster1324 1 year ago
@jmaster1324 no of course not, read in the instructions manual you dumb -_-
FinalAuron1 1 year ago
I like your rocket knight review pleas do a review of Tails adventure your fan Tristan
2sonicsonic 1 year ago
@2sonicsonic yeah that games so much fun
davistoa 1 year ago
Dang, I wish I would have noticed this upload sooner. Your original Startropics review is what made me subscribe in the first place.
I have to say, I'm in agreement with you on this game as well. They tried to much to "fix" what was supposedly "broken" and lost most of the charm that was in the first game.
SchlossRitter 1 year ago
Using Phantasy Star as an example for Master System music quality is like saying that every game on N64 was at least as good as Goldeneye. Man, the Phantasy Star cartridge had extra hardware and significantly higher retail price, it had better be worth of at least two Master System games. When it comes to music, it was great stuff from a great artist Tokuhiko Uwabo that beats much of the stuff released on the 16-bit systems, it had clear melody. PS was a pinnacle point, nowhere near the average.
fingrid 1 year ago
Yes, there is nothing more glorious than watching the Happy Video Game Nerd get angry. Anwyay, great review. I like that you review it instead of just bitching about it. Not an easy thing to do.
MartialHorror 1 year ago
greatist words of wisdom "opinoins r like assholes everyone has them."
zgeneral161 1 year ago
lol. i feel ya. I never even heard of this game as a kid, and I played A LOT of nintendo. i mean, my summers were filled with NES games, and this game never touched my pin connector.
greggyv1984 1 year ago
You know what's odd? The AVGN wears a clean, white shirt while the HVGN wears a crap brown one. Not to insult the HVGN, but is that how you would want to be remembered? Review games with perspective, criticism, and a crap brown shirt. Niice. XD
maggosh 1 year ago
yes mostly garbage
but a few things I like in zoda's revenge
but don't worry, not hating on the review
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
Argonians you say...?
pandarevolution 1 year ago
I found this review to be more of an AVGN style in the sense that half of your complaints were just mindless nitpicking. The only concrete complaints were the loose controls and lack of "blinking time". It was a strange experience seeing you be another angry video game nerd. I DO NOT suggest you ever try it again, because it just does not work for you. Lol, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy your other videos. You have talent, my friend! :)
NintendoSegaSonyGuy 1 year ago
Phantasy Star had great music, but not the most impressive for the system. Check out some later, euro games and also the JP version of the system which had FM sound.
Alianger 1 year ago
unfair deaths? that sounds like MW2
evilmilkbottle 1 year ago
I didn't like the first Startropics in the first place because its stiff controsl, trial-and-error nature and ridiculous difficuly level.
But anyway, good review.
19Szabolcs91 1 year ago
I disagree. I like Zoda's Revenge allot more than Star Tropics and I beat both.
snake2006 1 year ago
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ssjsolidsnake 1 year ago
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@ssjsolidsnake yeah, now go do that man. y'know for a happy video game nerd,he sure does abuse zoda's revenge "alot" and is more of a moron vgn. moron = hvgn
MultiDrJekyll 1 year ago
I see where HVGN is coming from.
Star Tropics 1 is so much better in the fact that there are sooo much more traps and puzzles. The game is definitely more clever.
They're both great games tho!!
ericmsandoval 1 year ago
yea i kinda agree. no blinking time sucks.
KirbyY15 1 year ago
You know, I love Zoda's revenge. Even more then first first game, I found the movement made combat much more fun, also That dungeon music is so awesome!
RobbieC21 1 year ago
I liked Phantasy Star's music.
LunDruid 1 year ago
In the master system game he was showing, at the end, was that pikachu?!?
Mysterious863 1 year ago
@Mysterious863 That's what I thought when I saw it, but it's a cat animal named Myau
dungchunker 1 year ago
It's a good video as always, but for a decent game. It took me forever to find out about this game, something you might not mention here is that the title "Zoda's revenge" kind of throws it off from a startropics sequal.
The game once again was decent, if and ironically because I loved the first one so much. I just wanted to see how everything would play out.
YukoValis 1 year ago
Close Captioning: "You know I've been making deals for a while now and Michael from the start was to more or less bring GAY MARRIAGE together by sharing with these are my theory is that I.."
LMAO!!
coolkid19901 1 year ago 22
@coolkid19901 Close captioning: "start rabbit stew: soda's revenge".
hall9111 1 year ago
I was so wishing that Mike would make an appearance in Super Smash Brothers, or even a new sequel
bcgabriot 1 year ago
Thanks for the review, Derek.
101Volts 1 year ago
Watch this with the Audio Transcribe Thingy on and you're in for a treat XD
jkgatling 2 years ago
I wonder if Youtube realizes that their beta is actually beta-ing PAST beta haha.
AceTheSlayer75 1 year ago
Oh man, I know. I had that on while watching a Phil X video (Phil demonstrates guitars) And it started trying to transcribe Phil's guitar playing into words.
101Volts 1 year ago
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jkgatling 2 years ago
I never played the original so when I got this game as a kid I loved it but maybe I should go back and play startropics 1.
Onlinepredator22 2 years ago 2
I completely agree. Zodas revenge is a total mess. The game had no idea what it really wanted to be, and was just flat out lazy in most areas.
walkerctranger 2 years ago
Everyone has different tastes, nobody can expect everyone to like the same games :3
Corad4 2 years ago
Neither do I.
SiGhast 2 years ago
Touché.
The video was entertaining to me, though.
SiGhast 2 years ago
Turn on Closed Captions for this video. Transcribe Audio.
"You know I've been making deals for a while now and Michael from the start was to more or less bring this gay marriage together by sharing with these are my theory is that I thought were overlooked or under appreciated."
SiGhast 2 years ago
I've always considered it a bad sequel, and I've never even got that far into the original. It is less difficult, it suffers from annoying gameplay mechanics, and the whole storyline is quite off-putting in itself. I could handle this game alot better, if the storyline wasn't what they made it into with the famous people cameos and dumb objectives.
pstrif 2 years ago
I suspect Star Tropics 2 suffered from being released during the last days of the NES, with the focus being on the 16-bit systems and gearing up for the 32-bit ones. Parts of Star Tropics 2 does feel rushed and or underdeveloped.
Browned79 2 years ago
YAY A AHVGN
bioo80 2 years ago
There's still one question I still don't get from Your Startropics Review,On that Review You Mention That if Zoda's Revange Was Release on the SNES,it would have been awesome,But the Game would probably have been the same way if it was on the SNES,Only with 16-Bit Graphics and other stuff to make it HQ On the SNES,So What did you mean by that?
HamtaroSonicHedgehog 2 years ago
@HamtaroSonicHedgehog THE GAMEPLAY MECHANICS might be better and the SNES would make it a best seller because of better technology
FireWing404 2 years ago 2
@FireWing404:Right,Right True,And you might wanna try pressing the reply button,because I won't be able to know that you comment to me unless you press the reply button to my comment,but anyway,That is true,But still it might have been the same,But True that it would have been better on the SNES since it was on a Better Advanced Hardware System. [At the time around the 16-Bit Consoles]
HamtaroSonicHedgehog 2 years ago
@HamtaroSonicHedgehog ya I see what you are saying
FireWing404 2 years ago
@FireWing404:Yeah,That's Why I'm confused because the game would have probably been the Same Game but with Advanced Graphics on the SNES,The HQ Music and Sounds,and other stuff,but that's it.
HamtaroSonicHedgehog 2 years ago